Jun 14, 2022 Planning &amp; Zoning Commission

NEXT ITEM IS NEW AND OLD BUSINESS ITEMS. WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME NEW PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS, DAVID COLEPEPPER, AND MICHAEL D SAID, I DON'T SEE MR. COLEPEPPER, BUT MICHAEL B SAYS HERE, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING IN AND HELPING US OUT.

BY LOCKED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRINTED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT MINUTES.

SECOND, THE MOTION AND THE SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THEM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

YEAH, THAT'S PASSED.

[III.A. WELCOME NEW PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS DAVID CULPEPPER AND MICHAEL DOUCET]

WE'RE SHORT HANDED MOST OF THE TIME.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, B

[III.B. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PLASTIC INJECTION FACILITY TO BE LOCATED AT 456 S. BRAZOSPORT BLVD. (PROPOSED J PH DATE 7/14/2022)]

IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A SPECIFIC USE DEPARTMENT FOR PLASTICS INJECTION FACILITY TO BE LOCATED AT 4 56 SOUTH BROWSES PORT BOULEVARD, THE PROPOSED JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE WITH THE JULY 14TH, 2022.

ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, I'M VERY SURE FROM TEXAS, ARE WE PLAN TO MAKE THE TOOLBOX IN THAT FACILITY? YEAH, THEY PRODUCE INJECTION MOLDED PLASTIC FOOD CONTAINERS.

AND IS GOING TO START UP DOWN HERE.

AND IT'S AN AUTOMATED PLANT.

HE HAS ANOTHER PLANT IN HOUSTON

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WE'RE EXCITED TO GET HIM MOVING FORWARD.

SO WHERE EXACTLY IS THIS LOCATED? THIS IS THE OLD CRAWFORD BUILDING, UH, THEREBY ON 2 88 B JUST PRESS APPLY.

NOT CROP.

OH, JOHNSON DOWN FROM JOHNSON.

FROM JOHNSTON SPOT.

OKAY, EXCELLENT.

YEAH, WE'LL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DRIVE.

IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIAL THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO THE BUILDING? JUST THE NORMAL, YES.

THIRD FIRE SUPPRESSION IN ORDER, WE MADE SURE THAT WE DO A ROUND TABLE BEFORE WE BRING THEM TO YOU.

AND WE MET WITH HIM AND HE WAS, HE'S ALL READY TO ROLL.

SO HE'S, HE'S A BOARD ALL STUFF THAT THE GUYS WANTED.

EXCELLENT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT IT? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND IT TO COUNSELING.

CANCEL I SECOND, THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ENTERTAIN A VOTE ON THAT.

UH, ANY OPPOSED MOTION PERIOD.

WE'LL SEND IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SET A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE.

SEE HIS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REPLY REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1256, BUT CONCRETE BE PROPOSED JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF JULY 14TH, 2022 AS WELL.

I DON'T

[III.C. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REPLAT REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1256 PECAN STREET(PR0P0SEDJPH DATE 7/14/2022)]

TELL US WHAT YOU GOT.

UH, MAINLY IT'S, UH, A HOUSE ON ONCE IT'S ON TOO LARGE, BUT THE HOUSES KIND OF LAPPING OVER TO THE SECOND LOT.

AND, UH, SO I'M TRYING TO SUBDIVIDE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT LOT, UH, SO I CAN, UH, UH, THE ONE LOT HAS A HOUSE ON IT AND THEN THE OTHER LOT HAS, IT HAS LIKE A OLD, UH, UH, USED TO BE LIKE A NURSERY TYPE BUILDING ON IT.

UH, AND I, UH, I'M TRYING TO SUBDIVIDE THE LOT, HOW CLOSE ARE THE TWO BUILDINGS WITH THE HOUSE AND THE OTHER ONE? UH, NOT, NOT CLOSE AT ALL.

UH, THERE IS, UH, A GOOD, UH, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

THERE IS, IT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO THAT IT, WELL, ONCE, ONCE WE SPLIT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY LAND, IT HAD, IT HAS TWO DIFFERENT EASEMENTS AND ALSO IT HAS TO BE X AMOUNT OF FEET APART IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE SETBACK BACK.

IS THERE, IS THERE A PROPER DISTANCE ON THAT KNOW OFF HAND? OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, AS I HIRED BAKER AND LAWSON TO, TO, TO, TO, TO, TO HELP ME WITH THAT, THEN THEY, ME, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE IS ENOUGH, PLENTY OF DISTANCE BETWEEN YOU PLAN ON SELLING THAT OR THAT THE SEPARATE LOT.

I I'M GOING TO SELL THE HOUSE WITH THAT LOT ON IT.

AND THEN THE OTHER LOT OF, UH, WHEN I HOLD ONTO IT, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE BUILD A HOUSE ON IT.

UH, I WOULD THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THAT PROPERTY LINE'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES.

YEP.

THAT, THAT WAY IT SAVES YOU ALSO IT'S TO HELP YOU.

SO I, MYSELF, I THINK WE NEED TO, WELL, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS IS ON PECAN STREET AND ALL FOR 2 88, CORRECT? YES, YES.

WELL, I LIVE ON TOM STREET AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS IS AT BECAUSE AROUND THE CURVE, WHERE YOU GO TOWARDS THE PARK PARK AND TAKE A RIGHT THERE.

IT'S YOUR LITTLE ROLLING.

YOU'RE TURNING OFF A YELLOW PAWN JOHN STREET.

SO IS IT TWO LOTS OR IS IT FOUR? BECAUSE IT SAYS HOUSEHOLD FOURS ACROSS THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS NOT THE RED HOUSE, CORRECT? THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

IT'S THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET.

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THEN ONCE YOU KNOW ABOUT AN ADDRESS ON LOT THREE, THE BIG HOUSE IS ON A LOT FOUR.

IS THAT CORRECT? I GUESS, YES.

AND THEN THE LITTLE, THE NURSERY IS, IS ON THIS, ON THE LEFT TO DO IT ON THE LAND, ON THE L THE LOT NEXT TO IT.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ITS OWN LOT THREE, RIGHT? YES.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE HOUSES ON, ON, ON LOT THREE.

EXACTLY.

WE'LL BE THE NEUROLOGIST COMING OVER THE LINE OUT OFF THE, OFF THE NEXT LOT.

ROSIE, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GO INTO MAYBE GOOGLE EARTH? HOW COME YES, I THINK THAT'S UH, UH YEAH.

THE ONE WITH THE, FOR SALE SIGN IN FRONT OF THE GREEN IS AT YOUR HOUSE OR THE RED ONE? UM, 1256.

THAT'S WHEN IT SHOWS UP ON THE, I KNOW.

NO, YEAH.

CLICK, CLICK THE STREET THERE AND MOVED DOWN JUST TO HERE.

ARE WE GETTING CLOSE TO IT NOW, SIR? A LITTLE BIT WHAT HOUSE YOU'VE BEEN LIVING IN, SIR? WELL, YOU BEEN GOING TO THE WRONG HOUSE.

YOU CAN GO RIGHT UP AND EVERYTHING AND ZOOM IN.

AND IT'S GOT THE ADDRESS RIGHT HERE ON THE LEFT FRONT OF THE, OKAY.

WHERE'S THE LITTLE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT GARAGE BACK THERE IN THE BAG?

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THAT'S THE ISSUE.

SO, AND THEN FARTHER DOWN .

SO YOU'RE SPLITTING BETWEEN THAT GARAGE BILL AND THE NURSERY BUILDING, WHICH ONE ARE TO THE LEFT OF THAT GARAGE ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK PIECE, THAT GARAGE OVER THE PROPERTY.

SO HE'S WALKING.

YOU WANT TO PUT THE PROFIT IN LINE THERE RIGHT HERE ABOUT WHERE THE GATE MEETS.

THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS RIGHT NOW.

WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR BOUNDARY AND YOU'RE ONLINE.

CAN Y'ALL SEE THE CAN Y'ALL READ THESE MEASUREMENTS.

I CAN'T READ THE MEASURE.

I CANNOT.

DO WE HAVE A MYLAR? NO, THEY DON'T HAVE IT.

WELL, ONE I'M WONDERING, CAN WE WAS GOING TO SAY, IF YOU COULD, ARE YOU IN GOOGLE EARTH? ARE YOU IN GOOGLE MAPS? I COULD PROBABLY GET THE MEASUREMENT IN GOOGLE MAPS OR GOOGLE OR, WELL, THE PROPERTY LINE IS WHAT? FIVE FEET, FIVE FEET, FIVE FEET.

SO IF THAT LIVES LIKE MORE THAN 10, 15 FEET THERE.

SO IF YOU'RE SPLITTING, WHO OWNS THE BUILDING ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE RED GARAGE, YOU RIGHT? I DO, YES.

I OWN BOTH LOCKS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE RED GARAGE IS TOO FAR OVER ON THE HOUSE, ON THE LEFT, RIGHT? EXACTLY.

THAT, YEAH, THAT BUILDING THE NURSE, THE OLD NURSERY BUILDING THAT'S THERE.

THE ON THAT THE GARAGE IS COMING OVER TO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S THE ISSUE.

WELL, IF YOU'RE OWNER ON IT, YOU CAN SPLIT IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

IS THAT CR OR WHEREVER YOU WANT? YEAH.

I OWN BOTH LOTS.

SO YEAH.

FIVE FEET.

UH, THE, I BELIEVE I DID WITH THE BAKER AND LAWSON.

THEY THEY'VE DONE ALL THAT.

SURE, SURE.

THAT'S FINE.

WE NEED TO GET IT SURVEYED.

I BELIEVE.

UH, YEAH, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T SEE THE NUMBERS.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE AND WE DON'T KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, CAN YOU GIVE YOUR MAGNIFYING GLASS? WELL, LET'S SEE.

TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOUR PHONE.

AND SOMETIMES WE'LL JUST TAKE A PICTURE OF IT.

SO LOT THREE IS THE NEW LIGHT, CORRECT? YES.

SO IT'S 73 OR 77 77 0.75 77.75 ON THE WIDTH.

AND I CANNOT MAKE THAT NUMBER OUT.

SO IT SHOULD BE BIG ENOUGH TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OR THE SIZE OF THE LOT.

RIGHT? 1 77 BY ONE 50.6, SEVEN.

YOU HAVE A CALCULATOR.

11,005.

SO IT'S WITHIN PARAMETERS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE JUST, WE HAVE TO COVER OUR BASIS CAUSE WE DON'T WANT, THEN YOU GET SCREWED LATER ON BECAUSE IT DOES SOUND, IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS SIZE AND THE SETBACK SHOULDN'T BE THE ISSUE.

SO WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION.

NOBODY CARED TO MAKE A MOTION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

THAT RED ROD IS HANGING OVER ALL THREE LETTERS.

I'M GOING TO RUN DOWN THERE WHERE YOU'RE AT FOR A SEC.

BEFORE SO

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WE'RE SAYING FURTHER.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S TOO FAR OVER, NOT THIS MANY FEET OVER THE LINE.

ARE YOU PROJECTING? IT IS.

I HONESTLY .

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING FROM THE EDGE OF HERE, THE OTHER SIDE, DOES THAT MAKE THIS? BUT THIS ONE HERE, WE'RE SAYING THAT 70 NOW.

CURRENTLY.

CAN YOU GO TO THE THAT'S SHED BACK.

THAT IS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE.

THAT'S JUST LIKE, I'M GOING TO DESTROY IT ANYWAY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THE FRONT GARAGE, THE GARAGE IS WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.

EXACTLY.

THAT YOUR, AS LONG AS YOUR FIVE FEET DOES OUT OF THE GARAGE, RIGHT, JERRY, RIGHT.

AS LONG AS HE'S FIVE FEET SETBACK, AS LONG AS HE'S POPPY OVER HERE, HE'S GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN, TEAR IT DOWN.

HE DID FIVE FOOT AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SEE WHERE IT'S HANDED OVER? IF THAT'S A STRAIGHT LINE ANYWAY, NEW PROPERTY OVER HERE.

SO WHERE THESE MEASUREMENTS ARE Y'ALL SPECULATIONS OR, I MEAN, Y'ALL, Y'ALL FEEL, I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE SAME SITUATION.

WE DID.

WE GOT BURTON THE FALL OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, APPROVE IT.

AND THEN IT COMES BACK AND WERE ASKED TO SIGN SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT.

AS LONG AS THESE DEPTHS ARE CORRECT ON THEIR LAYOUT, THEN THEY'RE WELL, WITHIN PARAMETERS OF A SENSE OF A SINGLE FAMILY LOT AND IN AN R ONE ZONE IS GOING TO BE STRAIGHTENED DOWN.

I'LL MOVE THE FENCE TO THE NEW PROPERTY LINE.

I THINK, YEAH.

I THINK I WOULD GET CLARIFICATION ON THE SETTING, THE HOUSE, IF THEY COULD DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE, HOW, WHERE THE STRUCTURES ARE AND THEN COME BACK.

WE'LL PROBABLY BE THE WISEST COURSE OF ACTION.

SO THE QUESTION IS WHEN THEY PUT THE LINE, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE HOUSE IS IN RELATION TO THE LINE.

SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS SUFFICIENT SETBACK.

THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WERE DISCUSSING, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THE SURVEY DOESN'T HAVE THE HOUSE ON THERE.

SO WE CAN'T TELL FROM THE SURVEY AND THEN IT BECOMES A BACK AND FORTH.

CAT'S NEVER ACCURATE.

AND I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT IT IS.

IT'S MESSED UP.

WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS A, A RETURN FOR MORE INFORMATION AND ASK THEM TO COME BACK AND TRY TO GO WITH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE TABLE IT.

I'LL SECOND.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.

TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, OR WE CAN COME NOW, WHEN COUNCIL GETS IT, IF IT'S NOT RIGHT, THEN YOU'RE PUT OFF A WHOLE OTHER MONTH.

AND THEN ADRIAN, EVERYBODY AGREE.

NOBODY'S OPPOSED.

WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND THAT IT BE TABLED AND WE NEED, WE NEED A DRAWING WITH THE HOUSE ON IT SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE MEASUREMENTS, BECAUSE IF WE APPROVE SOMETHING IN

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SO YOU'RE BETTER OFF GETTING THE HOUSE HOME THIS SQUARE.

SO WE KNOW WHERE THE MEASUREMENTS ARE, WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE WILL BE SET BACK AND ALL THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ADAM D WILL BE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REPLAT REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 0 2 JOLIET STREET AND THE PROPOSED JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE WOULD BE JULY 14TH, 2022 AS WELL.

[III.D. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REPLAT REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 402 GOLIAD STREET (PROPOSED JPH DATE 7/14/2022)]

HAVING BEEN A YEAR THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

MY NAME IS GILBERT GALE.

I RESIDE AT 4 0 2 GOLIAD STREET.

I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY SEVEN YEARS AGO, 2015.

UM, AND, UM, WE ARE, UH, PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF, UH, TO REPLY.

UM, I THOUGHT I WAS ENCOUNTERED PROPERTY.

UH, WHEN I STARTED THIS, I WENT TO THE COUNTY AND THEY FOUND ME, TOLD ME THAT I WAS TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.

I WASN'T IN THE E T J.

IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? RIGHT.

OH, THE CITY OF KLUTE.

SO THEY TOLD ME TO WORK WITH THE CEDAR CLUES IN THE REPLANTING PROCESS.

AND, UH, MR. STROUT IS THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S DOING THE REPLANTING ON THIS SURVEY FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT I HAVE.

UH, IT WAS A TOTAL OF 1.5, THREE ACRES.

I THINK THE CAT WAS ORDERED COUNTY CAT HAS AT A 1.6.

UM, AND UM, SO I DIVIDED UP INTO THREE HALF ACRE LOSS, UH, PRESENTED THIS TO THE REAL ESTATE.

I'M CURRENTLY SELLING MY HOUSE.

UH, MY CURRENT HOUSE WAS SITTING ON THREE SMALL LOTS.

AND, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE REPLANTING IS COMING IN AND IT'S GOING TO SIT ON 0.5, THREE ACRE, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE A NACRE LEFTOVER, WHICH IS TWO HALF-ACRE LOTS.

YOUR HOUSE IS ON WHAT LOT RIGHT NOW? ONE, TWO, OR IT SHOULD BE THREE IT'S UP HERE ON THE, ON THE, OKAY.

OH, A LOT MORE.

AND IS IT CENTERED ON LOT ONE OR IS IT OFF CENTERED OFF CENTER? I WILL HAVE, ACCORDING TO THE NEW REPLANTING, I WILL HAVE 13 FEET IN THE FRONT AND 11 FEET ON THE BACK PART OF IT THAT A LOT GOES KIND OF LIKE THIS, THE LINE AND HOW MUCH IN BETWEEN EACH PROPERTY BETWEEN ONE AND TWO OR THE HOUSE TO THE EDGE OF LOT ONE WE'RE OUT JUST LIKE HE IS.

HOW FAR OVER ARE YOU? OKAY.

SO MY HOUSE WILL SIT 13 FEET FROM, UH, ON THE FRONT PART TO THE PROPERTY LINE THAT'S BEING PRESENTED AND THEN 11 FEET IN THE BACK.

SO IT COMES IN A LITTLE BIT AT AN ANGLE.

HE'S ASKING ABOUT THE SOAP BETWEEN LOT.

SO HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, IF YOUR HOUSE IS LOCATED, THE EXISTING HOUSE IS LOCATED AT WHERE A LOT, ONE, THE WORD LOT.

ONE IS THE EDGE OF THAT BUILDING TO THE LOT LINE.

HOW FAR IS THAT? DO WE KNOW? DO WE HAVE A MEASURE OF THE BUILDING? YES.

THE EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NEW LOT LINE.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S THE STATE LINE.

UH, MR. SPROUTS SAID, I'M GOING TO HAVE 13 FEET FROM THE FRONT, THE EDGE OF MY HOUSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE IT'S BEING PRESENTED RIGHT NOW.

IT KINDA SAID THE APP TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

13 FEET.

YEAH, WE ALMOST NEED TO HAVE IT START REQUIRING A SITE PLAN WITH THE PLAT.

HOLD ON.

KIND OF RUN INTO THE SAME ISSUE.

WE JUST DEAL WITH THE LAST ANIMAL WEEK.

THERE'S NOTHING HERE IS SHOWING US WHERE THE HOUSE IS.

AND THEN WHEN YOU SEPARATED, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE CAN'T SEE THE SETBACKS, THE PROPERTY, I PRESENT THIS ONE.

SO THIS WAS THE FIRST, UH, PRE PLANNING THAT PRESENTED TO THE CITY.

THIS, THE COPY OF THAT.

THAT'S THE FINAL VERSION THAT SHE LOCKED ONE IN THE HOUSE.

THAT'S RIGHT HERE.

SO THAT'S JUST THAT THE EDGE OF THE HOUSE.

AND THEY'RE SHOWING IT 11 FEET AT ONE PART OF THE 13, OTHER FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

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ON THE SIDE.

SO HE'S WELL WITH THEM.

CAN YOU SHOW IT TO THE CITY MANAGER? CAN YOU BRING THAT AREA ON GOOGLE? I THINK THE MORAL OF IS IT CALLED THE MORE LIGHT COPY? I THINK THAT HOW THE HOUSE ON YES.

FACEBOOK SAFE SETBACK.

LABELED HOUSE RIGHT THROUGH 11 FEET, 13 OVER HERE.

AND THE REST OF IT IS JUST RAW.

THAT'S IT? THE YELLOW HOUSE.

YEAH, I KNOW.

I KNOW YOUR COUSIN WAS TOO, SO THEY'RE ALL THEIR LOTS ARE GOING TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY.

RIGHT SIDE, RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE ONLY THING I HAVE LEFT AS A SMALL STORAGE SHED, I THINK IT'S LIKE A 10 BY 10.

IT'S A PORTABLE CAN BE MOVED.

WELL, THAT LOOKS GOOD THERE LET'S YOU ONLY UP.

CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REPLY REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT SIX 12 WEST PLANTATION DRIVE, PROPOSED JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE, JULY 14TH, 2022 MINUTES.

TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND IT UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE APPROVE IT THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ENTERTAIN, A VOTE.

WE GET POSED MOTION CARRIES AND IT WILL BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL TO SET A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT OTHER ONE.

[III.E. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REPLAT REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 612 W. PLANTATION DRIVE (PROPOSED JPH DATE 7/14/2022)]

PLACES TO BE ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THAT PROPERTY.

SO MR. WHAT WAS HE? CAN YOU BRING UP THE SHEET BOOKS WITH NO.

CAN YOU BRING THAT SLIDE UP? THANK YOU.

IF YOU'LL NOTICE LOTS OF ONE, TWO ARE THE REMAINING LOTS ON THAT LITTLE BLOCK OR ALL? UH, OUR FIVE, UH, MR. NASSER'S ABDULNASSER CORRECT.

UM, MR. ABDULNASSER OWNS THOSE PROPERTIES.

HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF REDEVELOPING HIS STORE AND WANTS TO ENLARGE HIS STORE SITE.

UH, BUT BECAUSE HIS AREA IS NOT ZONED CORRECTLY, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO REPLANT IT INTO A SINGLE LOT AND THEN COME BACK AND REZONE THAT TO INAPPROPRIATE ZONING SO THAT HE CAN EXPAND THE STORE AND HIS BUSINESS, UH, ON THAT SITE.

NOW HE OWNS LOT ONE AND TWO COMMERCIAL, AND THEN HE'S PURCHASED THE, HE, WE THREE, THE NUMBER THREE, HE'S LITERALLY GONE TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH TO, TO GET AHOLD OF THAT LOT THAT WE HAD TO TRACK DOWN AIRS IN CALIFORNIA AND ALASKA AND WYOMING AND ALL KINDS OF CRAZY

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SO DID YOU GET THE, DID HE GET THE OTHER TWO? NO.

THERE'S EXISTING HOMES.

NO.

THERE'S AN EXISTING HOMES ON THE OTHER TWO OR THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE OTHER TWO.

GOTCHA.

SO IN THE BLUE, THE ONE OF THEM BELONGS.

I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME WAS .

THE OTHER ONE IS WHO? WHEREVER THE CAMERA.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE HAVE WALKED THE HOUSES ON? NO.

YEAH, NO.

I DON'T HAVE IT AS CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 28 COUNTY ROAD, 2 88 WITH A PROPOSED JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF JULY 14.

LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER PROCEDURE THAT, TO DO IT THAT WAY.

MAKES IT EASIER.

GOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION TO MAKE A MOTION.

CAN WE SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEM TO, YOU WANT PUBLIC HEARING? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES THE CITY COUNCIL

[III.F. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A REZONE REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 328 COUNTY ROAD 288 (PROPOSED JPH DATE 7/14/2022)]

WE KNOW YOU'D LOVE TO TALK SOMETIME.

NOW WE'RE NOT WANTING TO BE IN THE HOUSEHOLD STORAGE FACILITY.

I DON'T MIND TALKING A LITTLE BIT.

WE, UH, REPLANTED THAT YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO, GOT SOME COWS ON IT AND A LITTLE GARDENING.

UM, AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FINANCIALLY FOR THE CITY AT CLU, NOR DOES IT DO IT FOR US WITH THAT POWER LINE GOING THROUGH THERE, IT KIND OF MAKES IT AWKWARD FOR HOMES.

AND THEN I FINALLY WORKED IN WITH JOHN AND Y'ALL'S BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR YOUR RODEN STREET DEPARTMENT ON TRYING TO GET THAT DRAINAGE CLEANED OUT THAT COMES FROM COLEMAN AND HAS BEEN A PRETTY BIG PROBLEM SINCE WE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.

WE HAVE NOW, UH, I PAID TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON IT.

THAT IS A GLASGOW DRAINING MAN RULE.

SO IT'S NOT CLOOTS RESPONSIBILITY AT THIS TIME.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE LITTLE PIECES OF IT THAT WE HADN'T FOUND THE EASEMENT SIGNED OFF, BUT WE DID FIND WHERE, UH, SONNY SHANKS EASE A BIG PIECE OF THAT DRAINAGE OFF.

AND THEN MR. GOODSON DID A PIECE WHEN HE WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, IN TALKING WITH THE LASKA DRAINAGE DISTRICT ON THE PROPERTY AND GETTING IT CLEANED UP.

AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS AND THE PROPER WAY OF DOING SO THEY HAVE MADE IT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE EASEMENT WORKING ROOM TO GET IT DONE, RIGHT.

UH, WHEN Y'ALL GET A LOT OF RAIN OVER IN THIS AREA, IT CLOGS UP THAT CORNER HOUSE THERE ON OLD ANGLETON ROAD IN COLON.

IT ALMOST GETS THEM EVERY TIME, UH, GETTING WORSE EVERY TIME.

UH, SO I AM WORKING WITH ALASKA DRAINAGE DISTRICT, STEVE JOHNSON'S SUPPOSED TO COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT HE THINKS THAT WE CAN DO TO GET IT DRAINED AND PROPERLY.

AND WE DON'T WORK.

WE'RE WANTING TO GET THEM A GOOD CLEAN EASEMENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROPERTY.

AND THEN IT GOES UNDER THE CHURCH PROPERTY CONDIT, AND THEN SPLITS BACK OFF ON THAT, UH, PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE NEXT TO THE CHURCH KIND OF GOES PAST THE POWER LINE.

SO WE HAVE KIND OF COME UP WITH WE'RE READY TO, UH, DO SOMETHING COMMERCIAL ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND THE BEST IMPACT WE COULD FIND FOR US FINANCIALLY WAS STORAGE FACILITY.

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WE WANT TO BE IN THE COVERED BOAT AND RV STORAGE, MUCH CLEANER, MUCH NEATER, AND LISTENING TO SOME OF Y'ALL'S MEETINGS.

I THINK Y'ALL GOT A KIND OF A NEED TO HAVE THAT WHERE MAYBE Y'ALL CAN GET SOME OF THESE CHARTERS AND BOATS OUT OF SIDE YARDS AND DRIVEWAYS AND KIND OF MAKE IT WHERE PEOPLE GOT MORE ROOM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE, BUT IT DEFINITELY GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO IT.

SO OUR FIRST STAGE IN THIS IS TO GET THE ZONING CHANGE.

OUR SECOND WILL BE TO START ALL THE ENGINEERING ON THE HYDRAULIC STUDIES, THE ELECTRICAL, UM, BRINGING IN ON THE PROPERTY, WORKING WITH CENTER POINT ON THEIR EASEMENT TO THE POWER LINES AND ALASKA DRAINAGE.

SO WE'VE GOT PROBABLY ABOUT A $45,000 EXPENSE TO PUT FORWARD BEFORE WE CAN EVER DO ANY CONSTRUCTION.

SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO TAKE IT FROM RESIDENTIAL, TAKE IT TO COMMERCIAL.

AND NORMALLY THE WAY THE COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES THE STORAGE FACILITIES IS THEY TAX US ON THE INCOME APPROACH.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, INSTEAD OF IT BEING THE VALUE OF THE BUILDINGS, WHICH AREN'T GOING TO BE THIS GREAT VALUE, THEY DO IT BY THE INCOME THAT WE RECEIVE OFF OF THAT PROPERTY, KIND OF LIKE OUR RV PARKS ARE BEING DONE NOW.

UM, SO IT WOULD, AND I'M GOING TO THROW THESE NUMBERS OUT THERE THAT ARE PROBABLY KIND OF ACCURATE.

YOU'RE PROBABLY ONLY RECEIVING THREE OR $400 OFF OF THAT AG EXEMPT LAND.

MAYBE, UM, IT, THE INCOME APPROACH ON THERE YOU'LL SEE SOME NUMBERS.

IT'S HARD TO READ.

CAUSE I HAD TO DOWNSIZE, YOU'LL PROBABLY RECEIVE SOMEWHERE IN THE 8,500 TO THE $9,000 A YEAR ON THE INCOME APPROACH.

IF THAT'S HOW THE ALASKA DRANK OUR I'M SORRY, THE, UH, APPRAISAL DISTRICT DECIDES TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A THREE, THREE CHOICES ON HOW TO DO THEIR APPRAISAL.

AND NORMALLY THEY FIND THE ONE THAT BRINGS IN THE MOST MONEY.

SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE ASKING FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE COMING IN OFF OF COLEMAN DOWN THERE TO THIS PIECE? IT WILL COME OFF A OLD ANGLETON ROAD.

MY COLEMAN INTEREST IS GOT THE POWER LINE ON IT.

THAT STRICTLY WAS, I PURCHASED THAT STRICTLY TO BRING UTILITIES INTO THAT PROPERTY FOR, UM, FROM THE CITY OF CLUED.

THEY'RE ALL IN.

UH, BUT THERE'S NO, YOU CAN DRIVE A TRUCK THROUGH THERE AND GET THE PROPERTY, BUT IT IS BY FAR NOWHERE, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE ENTRY.

UH, THE MAIN ENTRY WOULD BE OFF OF OLD ANGLETON ROAD.

UM, I'VE TALKED WITH JERRY, HE'S LOOKED AT IT.

SOME WERE MAKING SURE DETERMINING THAT THAT WILL BE A PROPER ENTRANCE.

AND I GOT TO PUT SOME CULVERTS IN THERE QUITE A FEW.

AND THEN WE WILL START WORKING WITH THE MAJOR PLAN COMES IN.

WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER, LET'S CALL IT FUTURE MAIN ENTRANCE MAYBE FROM, UH, UH, MAIN STREET HERE.

AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GIVING YOU TWO ENTRANCES IN CASE OF FIRE TRUCKS NEEDING TO COME IN AMBULANCE OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE TWO, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME EASEMENT CHANGES ON OUR OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY AT THE SAME TIME.

I WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION, BEING A COMMERCIAL AND HAVING TO DRIVE THROUGH RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH, WE'VE GOT ALL THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL, LIKE I SAID, IN THE ENGINEERING AND THE STUDIES, CAUSE THERE'S GOTTA BE A HYDRAULIC STUDY DONE ON THE WATERSHED, UM, WHICH WE'LL PROBABLY USE BAKER AND LAWSON TO DO SUCH A STUDY.

NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STRICTLY LOT THREE RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO YOUR DRAWING HERE E FOR THE RENTAL.

YES, YES, YES.

FROM AND JUST ORDER THE PROPERTIES ON COLEMAN AND THEN BACK BEHIND THE OLD G AND T LUMBER.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THAT'S KIND OF LOST THERE DUE TO THESE EASEMENTS.

AND THEN, UM, NOW HAVE WE ALREADY SPLIT THAT IN ONE TWO? AND WE DID THAT.

Y'ALL DID THAT THE LAST TIME.

Y'ALL GOT TO SEE.

OF MAKING IT AN ENTRY, MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD.

AND THEN WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THEM COMING IN OFF OF MAIN STREET AND YOU JUST STATED THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A THROUGH AFFAIR GOING, NOT AT THIS TIME AT THE, BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THAT.

NO, NO, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING FULL INTENTIONS

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IF WE DECIDE TO EXPAND THE STORAGE FACILITY, IF IT DOES WELL ENOUGH ONTO THE OTHER FIVE ACRES THAT ARE ON THERE AND HAVE, UM, UM, THE HOUSE WILL STAY THERE AS A, LET'S SAY SECURITY, RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEN WE'LL, THAT'LL BE WHERE WE GO FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR HIRED, OR THAT ONE'S DONE.

NOW, W WE ALSO HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, THESE TWO CORNERS RIGHT HERE.

WHAT'S OH, THERE YOU ARE THE GAP IN THAT THERE.

UH, WHAT IS THAT? THAT WAS THE, AND I THINK IT WAS 32 FOOT OR 33.

IF I REMEMBER FROM HERE TO THERE WASN'T THAT MUCH, GENERALLY IT HAS TO BE IF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE IS THE SAME WAY, REALLY, IT PROBABLY HAS TO BE A 26 FOOT, TWO Y ROAD FOR FIRETRUCKS AND THE 80,000 POUND COMPACTION.

NOW WHETHER THEY'VE CHANGED SINCE I'VE DONE MY LAST RV PARK, I'M NOT SURE.

BUT THAT'S FOR MY ENGINEERS TO, UH, LET ME KNOW.

WE'RE GONNA, W IF WE DO THIS, IT WILL BE NICE.

THERE IS NO, UM, IT'LL BE CLEAN.

NEAT.

AND IT'LL BE, I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD ASSET TO BOTH MY FAMILY AND TO THE CITY OF COLLUDE AND WHERE THE HOUSES ARE.

UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING UP LIKE A CEDAR FENCE OR A GREEN BELT, OR ACTUALLY THE MOST OF THAT WILL BE THE BACKSIDE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, THE BUILDINGS, BUT WE WILL HAVE A FAR ENOUGH, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO GO BY YOUR CITY ORDINANCE SETBACKS.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BY A SETBACK THAT MAKES IT WHERE WE CAN MAINTAIN BY GOOD, SO THAT WE HAVE, UH, PLENTY OF ROOM TO GET BACK THERE, MODE CLEAN, UH, KEEP THE CRITTERS FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILD A NEST AND SURE.

AND, AND GETTING THE TREES.

CAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TREE LIMB PROBLEM BACK THERE FROM, FROM THE COLEMAN CENTER.

NOW, WITH NOW, LET'S GO TO THE FIRE SERVICE FRAME OF MIND.

WE'RE COMING OFF A TWO 80 AT COUNTY ODE ANGLETON ROAD, I'LL SAY, YES, SIR, BUT THERE'LL BE NO ACCESS FROM MAIN STREET.

WHEN WE DO THE MAIN DRAWINGS, IT WILL, WE HOPE THAT WE CAN MAKE A ENTRANCE ALSO, BUT NOT, NOT YOUR, YOUR MAIN ENTRANCE LIT A FIRE OR A GATE HERE.

AND NOW WE WANT Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH, IF YOU'RE IN A BIND OR YOU COULD COME IN OFF OF NINE AND GOT THROUGH WITH THE PROPER, UH, Y'ALL INFORMALLY HAVE YOUR OWN NINE 11 BLOCKS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, SECURE MATLOCK AND KNOCK THEM OFF.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID AT THAT TRAILER PARK DOWN THE ROAD.

AND THERE'S A LOT MORE TECHNOLOGY ON THAT.

THEN THE LAST TIME I DID IT, HONESTLY, THERE'S UM, PROBABLY, UH, Y'ALL GOING TO HAVE A CLICKER THAT WILL, OKAY.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED ABOUT X, Y, OR Z OFFSET CAROLINE FROM PROPERTY OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND STUFF.

THERE, ARE YOU TALKING, YOU KNOW, PLAYING AT LEAST ABOUT 10 FEET OFF THE PITCH LINE? PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE.

YEAH, PROBABLY PROBABLY 12 TO 13.

EVEN ASK MORE AS A FIRE SUPPRESSION AND OUTLINE WHERE WE CAN GET LINED SOME STUFF BACK THERE.

WELL, THAT RADIANT HEAT, WE'LL TAKE A CEDAR FENCE OUT IF IT'S TOO CLOSE THE BUILDING AND ALSO YOU'RE DOING GOOD.

AND THAT, THAT'S MORE THAT WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT AND SEE WHAT THE UPDATED AND LAWS AND RULES AND WHERE WE SHARE TO BE ON, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY'LL ALL BE METAL AS FAR AS THE PANELING, UH, THE COST OF WHETHER WE'RE GOING WOOD METAL OR WE'RE GOING METAL.

METAL IS QUESTIONABLE.

AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

SO MY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND IT THROUGH TO, UH, COUNSEL.

AND I'LL SECOND IT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

IT'LL BE SET FOR THE COUNCIL FOR A PREDICTED.