* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [I. COMMENCEMENT] [00:00:05] I HEAR ABOUT GIVING THEM A BUDGET WORKS OUT GOOD. HE HELD ON SATURDAY, JULY THE 16TH, 22 AT 8:00 AM. AND THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS FLUTED CITY HALL LOCATED AT ONE OF MY MINISTRY, TEXAS 7 7 5 3 1 FOR THE BELOW LISTED ITEMS. COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO A JURY, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TECH OR TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO SECTION 5, 5, 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY 5 5, 1 0.07 TO DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY OH SEVEN, THREE DELIBERATION ABOUT GIFTS AND DONATIONS. 5, 5, 1 0.07 FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS. FIVE, FIVE WE'LL PUT OH SEVEN, SIX DELIBERATION ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES, 5 5 1 4, 2 8 7 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. FOR WHAT? 8.17 5.183 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUES THAT IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE. AND CLEVELAND NOT LIMITED TO SECTION 3, 2 1 3 0 4, 3 0 2, 2 SALES TAX INFORMATION. THE AGENDA, THE AGENDA PACKET. AND IMMEDIATELY, IF PROBATION ARE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWWDOTTEXAS.GOV PUB, THE COMMENT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO PERSON TO VIA TELEPHONE VIDEO CONFERENCE, TO REGISTERED SPEAKERS, SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS, PLEASE EMAIL CITY CLERK, OR OTHER POINT OF IT AT ROSIE EQUIT, TEXAS.GOV, AT LEAST TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. I'LL PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM OCCURRED TO GET IMMEDIATE COPY ON ADAM. A RECORDING OF THE TELEPHONE VIDEO MEETING WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN ACCORD WITH THE MEETING ACT UPON WRITTEN REQUEST MEETING HAS NOW BEEN CALLED TO ORDER, UH, FROM ONE OF THE CARE TO LEADERS. LORD, WE COME TO YOU TODAY. WE ASK THAT YOU, UH, GIVE US THE WISDOM TO SPEND THE MONEY WISELY, THAT THE CITIZENS IN TRUST TO US, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR CITY WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO RUN FOR ANOTHER YEAR. LIKE ALL OF OUR NECESSARY REPAIRS, KEEP EVERYONE HAPPY. KEEP EVERYONE SAFE, KEEP EVERYONE IN A, IN YOUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS. AND, AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DO FOR US. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS COUNCIL WAS THEY'D MAKE THE DECISIONS TODAY IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON. JESUS. AMEN. JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE. I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE SIGHTS OF AMERICA. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HAVE CALVIN SHIFFLETT PRESENT. DO YOU HAVE CHRIS PRESENT? ERIC AGUILAR PRISON MADDOX PRESENT TRAVIS QUINN PRESENT FRANCIS VAUGHN PRESENT [II. WORKSHOP ITEMS] ON THE AGENDA IS WORKSHOP ITEMS AND DISCUSSION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET WITH THANK YOU MAYOR. AND GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. I APOLOGIZE. I LEFT THE HARMONICA AND MY CAR, BUT I CAN GO GRAB IT. IF WE NEEDED TO GET A LITTLE MUSICAL INTERLUDE TO GET THINGS STARTED, UH, ROSIE, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO THAT NEXT SLIDE. OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE. SORRY. WELL, YOU GUYS BEHIND US, Y'ALL GET A WHOLE SCREEN, BUT BEHIND US IT'S CUT OFF, BUT IT'S NO WORRIES. UM, WE WILL BE GOING OVER JUST ABOUT EVERY FACET OF THE BUDGET. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE IN FOR THE LONG HAUL. THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE'VE ARRANGED FOR COTS TO BE DELIVERED SO WE CAN WORK STRAIGHT. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. WE WON'T BE WORKING STRAIGHT THROUGH THE NIGHT. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER TODAY. UH, WE WILL START AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, FOLLOWING MY INTRO, UH, WE WILL DISCUSS THE POLICE FIRE CODE, FIRE MARSHALL EMS. THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH IS A, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG BULK ITEMS IN OUR BUDGET EVERY YEAR. UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE OPERATION SOLID WASTE FLEET, WATER WASTEWATER, AND OUR CIP FOR THE YEAR GOING FORWARD. THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE FUN STUFF, QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION, HOTPOT AND GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL. AND THEN WE'LL GET YOU GUYS TO BUST OUT YOUR PILLOWS. AS WE TALK ABOUT THE BORING STUFF THAT GOES ON IN GENERAL ADMINISTRATION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PERMITS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A FUN GROUP. SO, UH, I GET THIS QUESTION EVERY YEAR AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT NEURO. SO HOW, WHAT IS THE BUDGET AND WHAT IS OUR BUDGET DO? AND ROSIE, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND HIT THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, UH, A GROUP OF BUDGETS. AND SO I TRIED TO LAY OUT WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE, AND WE HAVE MINOR AND MAJOR FUNDS. AND THE QUESTION I ALWAYS GET IS FROM STAFF AND FROM THE PUBLIC. I SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF CASH. WHY AREN'T WE DOING THIS, THAT, AND THIS WITH [00:05:01] IT? AND SO THEY'RE PROPRIETARY FUNDS, NOT PROPRIETARY FUNDS, MAJOR FUNDS, MINOR FUNDS. AND SO IF YOU CAN GO TO THAT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, THE GENERAL FUND FUNDAL ONE IS KIND OF WHERE THE ACTION IS. THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. THAT'S OUR OPERATIONAL FUND. NEXT, YOU HAVE THE ENTERPRISE BOND THAT IS A LARGER POND. THOSE TWO WORK ALMOST SYMBIOTICALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF ASSIGNED AND ALLOCATED ACROSS BOTH. UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE WATER IS HERE, COME FROM. AND THEN YOU MOVED FROM THERE AND WE AUGMENT THAT WITH OUR SIDEWALKS STREETS AND DRAINS. YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT ONE? THAT'S THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE, I LIKE TO CALL IT THE WET SIDE, THE DRY SIDE, THE DRY SIDE OF THE CIP AND THE DRY SIDE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S OUR FREIGHT EDGE. THAT'S OUR SIDEWALKS, THAT'S OUR STREETS AND EVERYTHING TIED THERE TO, UH, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION INCLUDE, AND THAT WE DEDICATE 40% OF OUR GENERAL SALES TAX TO THAT FARM. AND A LOT OF THINGS DONE THROUGH THAT. SO WE DIRECTLY FUND THAT FUND WITH SALES TAX EVERY YEAR. SO WE HAVE GOT A NICE REVENUE STREAM FOR THAT FONT. THAT'S SOLELY DEDICATED OVER. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE DEDICATE OUR SALES TAX IT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND. THEN WE HAVE OUR SDS. SO ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, WHICH ALSO IS CO-RELATED INTERRELATED IN OUR HOTLINE. AND THEN FINALLY OUR BIT SERVICE FUND. THOSE ARE OUR MAJOR FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT, BUT THEN WE HAVE A TON OF ANCILIARY FUNDS THAT FEED THOSE FUNDS, WHERE WE PULL CASH TO SAVE UP FOR PROJECT COST AND THEN INTERFUND FUND TRANSFERS. AND THOSE INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS 1 0 1 AND 1 0 5. I'M STILL NOT SURE WHY I WANT TO FIVE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE ENTERPRISE ONE HAS A ONE NUMBER IN FRONT OF AN ATTITUDE, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, UM, BRAD'S MINUTES EVERY YEAR, BUT THEN WE HAVE THE EQUIVALENT REPLACEMENT FUNDS, 1 0 6 AND 2 0 8. UH, THOSE FUNDS HAVE YOU EQUIPMENT VEHICLES, STUFF LIKE THAT. UH, AND THOSE ARE KIND OF A SLUICE GATE. SO WE PUT MONEY IN, BUT WE ALSO TAKE MONEY OUT EVERY YEAR. AND WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT THOSE TRANSFERS HERE IN JUST A LITTLE WHILE, AS WELL AS WE GET INTO SPECIFICS. UH, AND THEN WE HAVE SMALLER DEDICATED, PROPRIETARY FUNDS. LIKE THE POLICE CORPORATE. YOU'RE FINE. YOU CAN FIND AN APPOINTMENT THREE PASS THROUGH, UM, THAT IN THE THREE 80, WE'LL GET CONFUSING. CAUSE IT'S JUST ERODED, PUT THE MONEY IN AND THEN WE TAKE THE MONEY OUT. BUT AS YOU SEE ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, THESE ARE OUR MAJOR FUNDS. YOU GET YOUR GENERAL FUND. AND I TRIED TO DO THIS SO THAT THE SIZE WAS, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE TOO FANCY, PROBABLY DIDN'T WORK PROBABLY DIDN'T WORK THAT WELL. UH, BUT WE TRIED IT AND ALSO I'M COLOR ORIENTED. SO I TRY TO COLOR CODE THINGS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WHAT, SO THESE ARE OUR MAJOR FUNDS. AND THEN NEXT, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CLICK, THESE ARE WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM. SO, AND AGAIN, I TRY TO, TO SCALE ON FEES FOR SERVICES, OUR PRIMARY DRIVER FOLLOWED BY PROPERTY TAX SALES, TAX RANT, AND HOT TAX. AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS ON THE FLOW OF MONEY. SO, SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE A SECOND. IT'S THE GET, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE, THE FLOW OF FUNDS INTO THE VARIOUS BUDGETS AND YOU'LL NOTICE SOME OF THEM LIKE PROPERTY TAX GO IN TWO SPECIFIC SPOTS, ONE TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. ONE OF THE GENERAL OPERATING FUND FEES FOR SERVICE OR SPIRIT LIEU FEES FOR SERVICE ARE SPLIT BETWEEN THE ENTERPRISE SO THAT YOUR WATER RATE THAT YOUR SEAR, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE CHARGE FOR PERMITS. THAT'S WHAT WE ENTER FOR APARTMENT INSPECTIONS. AND ALSO EMS SERVICES. SALES TAX IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND, THE SALE. OH, AND I LEFT THE ARROW OFF FOR THE SIDEWALKS STREETS AND DRAINAGE, MY APOLOGIES, UH, BUT THEY, 40% OF THAT GOES TO SIDEWALK, STREETS AND DRAINAGE. AND THEN THE OTHER REMAINDER IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR HOT TAX, UH, WHICH IS DEDICATED SOLELY TO THE CVV AND HOT FUND, WHICH WE PASS THROUGH FOR OTHER USES LIKE THE GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL, THE BAND FESTIVAL, AND ALSO THE CENTER FOR ARTS AND SCIENCES. AND WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT BUDGET AND THAT FUND BALANCE A LITTLE BIT LATER AS WELL. SO, UM, IF YOU WANT TO CLICK NEXT. SO THE SECOND BEFORE WE GET DEEP INTO THIS, JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE, THE MAYOR, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM ONE OR THE OTHER, HE WOULDN'T LEAVE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM OR ANYTHING, JUST FEEL FREE TO GO. AND, UH, AS LONG AS WE CAN MAINTAIN THREE PEOPLE AT THE PODIUM AND , WE WERE WITHIN OUR CALL. SO IF YOU HAVE TO GET UP AND GO TO THE RESTROOM, JUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL FIVE OF US DON'T GO AT THE SAME TIME. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS [00:10:01] OR YOU NEED TO STOP ME AT ANY TIME, PLEASE THROW SOMETHING AT ME, RAISE YOUR HAND. YEAH. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU, LOOK AT YOUR DOOR, THERE'S PROBABLY A WIDE SURRENDER. IF YOU LEAVE TIME. OH MY GOSH, CAN I GET A PICTURE OF THIS? I LIKE, YEAH, I WILL. I WILL SEND THIS OUT TO EVERYBODY. UM, SO, SO THESE INDICATE THE FLOW OR INTRAFUND FLOWS THAT GO ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. UH, GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL GETS MONEY FROM THE HOT AND FROM THE GENERAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SWAP FUNDS, UH, AS DO THE WATER AND ENTERPRISE FUND, WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE SCALES ON THOSE, UH, EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUNDS WE PULL OUT, BUT WE ALSO PUT BACK IN AND THE SAME ON THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, UH, FOR BOTH SIDES. AND THEN ON TOP OF ALL THOSE INTERFUND TRANSFERS, YOU HAVE MAYBE THERE WE GO, UH, TRANSFERS OUT TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. AND SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ENDED UP BORROWING MONEY. THE WAY THE CITY TYPICALLY DOES OUR WORK IS WE TAKE OUT DEBT. WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE SCALE PROJECT, LIKE OUR SIDEWALKS PROJECT, OR WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW WATER TOWER OR IN SOME CASES BY A FIRE TRUCK, WE KNOW THERE'S AN APPRECIABLE LIFE ON A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. ABOUT 20 YEARS ON A PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS 50 TO 75 YEARS. SO IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND FINANCE THAT AND PAY THAT OUT OVER THE LIFE OF THAT PROJECT OR SOMETHING APPROACHING THAT LIFESPAN IN ORDER TO KEEP THOSE THINGS GOING. SO, UH, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT DEBT IN A LITTLE WHILE WE GET INTO SOME, SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS, UH, WE ISSUE DEBT IN 2018 AND AGAIN, IN 2020, THERE IS NO REQUEST TO ISSUE DEBT THIS YEAR, UH, WITH THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKETS. UH, AND AFTER TALK, AFTER THE DEAD CAT, AFTER THE REVENUE CAP THAT WE HIT LAST YEAR, IN TERMS OF VALUATION AND LOSS OF TOTAL VALUE, UH, ALSO COMBINED WITH OUR FUND BALANCES, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, THAT RBC CAPITAL MARKETS DID NOT FEEL LIKE THIS WAS A GOOD YEAR TO TRY AND GO GET DEBT. SO WE ARE SITTING STILL IN THAT REGARD. OTHER, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NEED. WE ARE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. UH, AND WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT OUR DEBT RATIO, UH, AS WE GO FORWARD. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE FUNDS WORK. UM, SO TYPICALLY EVERY BUDGET YEAR STANDS ON ITS OWN. IT HAS ITS OWN THEME. THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT WE'RE, I GUESS, HUNG OVER FROM THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, WE HAD A VERY AMBITIOUS PROJECTS LIST. WE HAD A VERY AMBITIOUS PURCHASING LIST AND WE HAD SOME UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT CAME ALONG LAST YEAR. IF YOU RECALL THE GENERATORS THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR WATER AND SEWER, THE GENERATORS THAT WE WERE DOING ON OUR OWN, BECAUSE AFTER THE WINTER STORM YEAR, WE KNEW WE HAD HAD TO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS, VEHICLE PURCHASES IN THE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS. UM, ALL OF THOSE REQUIRE PARTS THAT ARE STUCK SOMEWHERE IN THE ETHER OR DON'T EXIST YET. UM, AND SO WE'VE HAD TO PUSH BACK AND EVEN GETTING SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS CONCRETE NOW IS, IS A LAG. SO WE HAD TRIED TO GET THE CORNER OF LAZY LANE AND LAKE VIEW FIXED. I THINK THAT'S BEEN JOHN WITH A TWO MONTH PROCESS AND IT'S TAKEN US OUT WHEN WE FINALLY POURED CONCRETE YESTERDAY. SO EVERYTHING HAS LAGGED BEHIND. AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, ROSIE, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT NEXT, WELL, MAYBE NOT. OKAY. NO, NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE. UH, WHEN WE GET INTO ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE, AT THE BUDGET SUMMARY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ROLLING IN CASH AT THE END OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THAT, THE ABILITY TO EXPEND THE FUNDS ON PROJECTS AND VEHICLES AND CAPITAL ITEMS THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE THAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR. AND SO, UH, KEEP THAT AS MINE, AS WE ROLL FORWARD, WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO COVER PROJECTS FROM IN THIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THAT STARTED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, NOT LAUNCHING A FEW NEW PROJECTS. WE DO HAVE ONE CIP PROJECT THAT WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE VERY END, BUT WE WILL BE CARRYING FORWARD THOSE PROJECTS. AND ALSO SOME OF THOSE, UH, CAPITAL ITEMS WE WON'T TAKE DELIVERY ON. I THINK CHIEF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, EVEN THOUGH WE MODIFIED THE BUDGET, WE MIGHT'VE. YEAH. WE MIGHT'VE THE RAPID RESPONSE VEHICLE CHIEF. YES. THE TACTICAL RAPID RESPONSE VEHICLE RAT, I THINK IS WHAT WE ENDED UP IN FRONT OF THE, UH, BUT THOSE CHASSIES, WE WERE TOLD AT THE TIME WE'RE WAITING TO GO TO THE FACTORY. WE WERE TOLD, YOU KNOW, IT'S TH THE THEY'RE THEY'RE THE FASTEST AND THE PIPE. AND THEN IT TURNS OUT THAT THE FASTEST AND THE PIPE IS LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT WAS IT, AN APRIL 24 FOR THE APRIL 20, 24 FOR THE TANKER. AND WE HOPE TO GET THE RAPID RESPONSE TRUCKS SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT, UH, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. AND IT'S THE SAME IN EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT THAT HAD A VEHICLE PURCHASED OR HAD AN EQUIPMENT PURCHASE OR HAD A MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECT. UM, THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING DONE THIS YEAR. WE [00:15:01] GOT QUITE A BIT DONE, UM, AS EVIDENCED BY THE SIDEWALK AND SOME OF THE RENOVATION PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, BUT WE HAVE A HANGOVER. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, MOVING FORWARD AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE KIND OF FACING IN FYI 2023. UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE COMPLETING A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS AND CONTINUE THOSE PROJECTS ON A LOT OF THE CAPITAL THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. UM, BUT WE, UH, COST HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF. THAT'S THE OTHER DOUBLE WHAMMY THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THE FUEL COSTS WE'RE SEEING. UH, I KNOW IT'S LEVELING OFF NOW. UH, ON THE RETAIL SIDE, WE'RE SEEING EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH COSTS. WE ALMOST, I THINK IT WAS 100% FROM WHAT IT WAS A YEAR AGO TO THIS YEAR. SO, UH, IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY HIGH, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, IN ADDITION TO THOSE COSTS, SUPPLY CHAIN COSTS HAVE GONE UP. AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING HIT WITH A DOUBLE WHAMMY, UM, IN THE, UH, IN THE LAG AND THEN ALSO IN WHAT'S GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE, UH, UH, IN TERMS OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN. AND SO IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO KINDA PLACE THE TARGET, AIM AT THE TARGET, PULL THE TRIGGER AND SHOOT THE TARGET THIS YEAR. AND SO, UH, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. WE DO ANTICIPATE ON THE REVENUE SIDE, UH, PROPOSING A, AN INCREASE OR A 3.5% INCREASE, UH, GOING TO THE VA TR, WHICH WE USED TO CALL THE ROLLBACK RATE. UH, LAST YEAR WE GET TO 3.2, 5%. UH, THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE FULL 3.5% CURRENTLY SPEAKING WE'RE AT, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE'RE AT ABOUT $725 MILLION IN TOTAL VALUE. UM, IF THAT'S THE CASE, MY CALCULATION SHOWED THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DROP OUR RATE FROM 62.5 TO ABOUT 55 CENTS. I WAS ALSO TOLD IN THE SAME CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN CHALLENGE AT THE MOMENT. AND MOST OF THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN HURT. SO WE COULD BE LOOKING AT AS MUCH AS A A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR SWING IN TOTAL VALUE, WHICH EVERY TIME THAT HAPPENS, IT PLAYS HABIT WITH OUR TAX RATE. IF YOU'LL RECALL, IN 2019, GOING INTO 2020, WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE RATE TO, I THINK IT WAS 59 CENTS TO GENERATE THE SAME LEVEL OF REVENUE. UH, WE LOST $13 MILLION IN VALUE LAST YEAR, AND THAT FORCED US TO PUSH THE RIVER, THE RIGHT BACKUP AT 62.5, THE RATE AND THE REVENUE CAP COULD NOT HAVE COME AT A WORSE TIME FOR THE CITY. WE'RE LOOKING AT INFLATION AT 9.5%, BUT WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO INCREASE OUR SET GUARANTEED REVENUE UP BY 3.5%. SO IF YOU READ THE TEXAS TRIBUNE, LET YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, THAT STATE IS ROLLING IN CASH. SO I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO RIDE TO OUR AID. AND I'M JUST KIDDING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO SUCK THAT MONEY AWAY AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH, UM, WE ONLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AND THAT'S YEAH, I WAS GONNA, WHEN WE TALKED TO THE REPRESENTATIVE TO SIT, MY ASS WAS GOING TO BE, WE DON'T LESS THAN 1%. IF YOU COULD JUST THROW THAT OUR WAY WE'D BE IN GREAT SHAPE. SO, UM, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES. WE DO HAVE TO CATCH UP ON REVENUES AS WELL. NOW, THIS, UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD STARTED THE PROCESS OF OUR WATER SERVICE FUND MASTER PLAN. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING A WEIGHT, UH, WORDS. I KNOW WATER RATE FEE STUDY, WHICH IS REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR US TO RAISE RATES SIGNIFICANTLY, GETTING THAT INDIVIDUAL AND GETTING THOSE THAT PROCESS IN ORDER HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME. WE HAVE KICKED OFF THE MASTER FEE OR MASTER PLAN FOR THE WATER SERVICE WATER SEWER PLAN. MCMANUS JOHNSON IS WORKING ON THAT, BUT WE HAVE NOT YET STARTED THAT RATE FEE. THAT RATE INCREASED THEIR RATE WATER RATE STRUCTURE STUDY. THERE WE GO, WHICH IS REQUIRED. HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN INSERTED INTO THIS BUDGET AND ANTICIPATED INCREASE OF ABOUT 8%. THAT'S LESS THAN OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, BUT STILL MORE THAN WE'VE EVER DONE. I THINK IN ONE YEAR, EXCEPT MAYBE 2016, WHEN GARY TOOK US UP BY ABOUT 10%, WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED THE WATER OR THE SEWER RATES SINCE 2016. SO WE'VE KIND OF ALLOWED THAT FRONT, THAT, THAT FUND TO SETTLE, UH, FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS. AND WE TALK ABOUT IT IN 2018, BUT WE HELD OFF BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE MARKETS AND THEN COVID HIT AND WE DECIDED TO HOLD THE, HOLD THE LINE THERE. SO WE'VE NOT DONE ANY KIND OF INCREASE. UH, I GOT A FEELING ONCE THE RATES THAT HE COMES BACK, IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT A MEDIUM INCREASE OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEN A STANDARD, MAYBE ONE OR 2% MODIFIER EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT, JUST TO KINDA KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE AILING IN THAT, IN THAT FUND. NOW I WILL SAY WE HAVE EXCEPTIONALLY HEALTHY RE RE RESERVE DEPOSITS ACROSS ALL FUNDS. UM, AND WE GET SOME CRITICISM FOR THAT SOMETIMES. WHY DO WE, WHY ARE WE SITTING ON SO MUCH MONEY? AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO WORK TO SPEND SOME OF THAT MONEY IN AREAS AND DEFER AND MOVE THOSE MONIES INTO AREAS AND GET THEM IN, GET THEM INVOLVED IN PROJECTS SO THAT THE TAXPAYERS SEE THAT THEIR MONEY'S AT WORK FOR [00:20:01] THEM. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, UH, THIS BUDGET DOES ANTICIPATE A 5% CALL IT A STAFF THAT'S OBVIOUSLY FLEXIBLE. UM, WE FELT LIKE BECAUSE THE CPI IS UP NINE AND A HALF PERCENT, AND WE ALREADY LAGGED WHERE WE WERE IN TERMS OF PAY SCALE FOR THE REGION, UH, THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL NUMBER, BUT WE NEED TO BE SHOWING OUR STAFF SOME SUPPORT THERE. UH, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A HIRING FREEZE, UH, ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS UNTIL THE MID POINT NEXT YEAR. SO IF THEY HAVE AN OPEN POSITION, THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT POSITION OPEN UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT AND ON MORE SURE FOOTING THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE A COUPLE OF KEY FIRST RESPONDER POSITIONS, BUT OTHERWISE WE ARE HOLDING THE LINE ON HIRING. UH, WHEN I SENT THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS WAY BACK. ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, CHRIS SENT FORMS TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. THEY FILLED THEM OUT, SEND US THEIR SITE, SEARS ROEBUCK WISHLIST. WE WENT THROUGH THAT WISHLIST AND CUT IT OUT. AND I WILL SAY THAT, UH, THERE WAS NOTHING EXTREME. NOBODY ASKS FOR A BLIMP OR HOT TUBS OR, UH, HELICOPTERS, A LAMBORGHINI. NO, YEAH, THERE WAS NO FOR LAMBORGHINI, UH, BUT THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THERE. SO WE CUT BACK ON, WE CUT BACK AND WE CUT BACK AND WE ENDED UP AND I THINK I MIGHT'VE COPIED Y'ALL BACK AT THE END OF MAY WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT A 900, 1.2 TO 900, 900, 1001.2 DIFFERENCE. AND, UH, I TOLD FOLKS, THEN I CAN GET US TO ZERO AND I, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THE ZERO. THE PROBLEM IS, IS IF WE DO THAT, IT GETS REALISTIC, REAL FAST AND WE'RE CUTTING SERVICES. AND SO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS STRIKE A BALANCE IN THIS BUDGET WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN SERVICES AT OUR CURRENT LEVEL, NO REAL SIGNIFICANT SERVICE EXPANSION, OTHER THAN CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PLEDGED TO AND COMPLETE A, THE OTHER CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED. WE DO HAVE SOME CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS IN TERMS OF PLANNING THAT NEED TO BE DONE WAY BACK IN 2018. WE WERE AWARDED THE LIVABLE CENTER STUDY GRANT FROM HJC. IF YOU GUYS WILL RECALL THAT OUR PLEDGE TO THAT IS $40,000, THE STATE IN HGA. SO YOU'RE GOING TO MATCH THAT WITH $120,000 TO COME IN AND HELP US REDO, HELP DEVELOP A MODEL FOR LAND USE AND ZONING IN THE OLDER PART OF TOWN. AND THEN THAT IS KIND OF THE LAUNCHING POINT TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS IN A LAUNCH POINT TO THE REVAMP OF ARIZONA. SO I KNOW THE OTHER NIGHT WE WERE ZONING WAS FRONT AND CENTER. IT'S ANTIQUATED. IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, AND IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY REFLECT WHAT THE REAL USES ARE EVEN ON THE GROUND. AND SO, UH, THERE'S A PROCESS UNDER STATE LAW THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERGO TO GET THERE. AND PART OF THAT IS DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN TAKING THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND REVAMPING OUR LAND USE. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST STEP IN THAT PROCESS. UM, THOSE LIVABLE CENTER STUDIES WE'VE USED THEM. I'VE USED THEM IN FULSHEAR. THEY'VE BEEN USED IN OTHER AREAS TO HELP FOMENT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS FOCUSING ON AN URBAN POOR AND THE CREATION OF A REAL DOWNTOWN DISTRICT MEETING PLACE FOR THE CITY. UH, SO WE HOPE TO SEE THAT COME OUT OF IT, BUT ALSO TIED TO THAT WOULD BE THE GUIDELINES FOR HOW WE WOULD LET COMMERCIAL DEVELOP AND WHAT KIND OF SETBACKS WE REQUIRE, WHAT KIND OF LAND USES WE CAN ENVISION BEING IN THAT KIND OF CORE AREA. SO, UH, I CAN BOIL TO DEATH WITH A TDM ON THAT PROJECT, BUT WE ACTUALLY AWARDED A CONTRACT TO A PLANNING GROUP AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE HERE TWO WEEKS AT THE GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL TO START TAKING INPUT FROM THE POPULOUS ON WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO GET THEM STARTED AND GET THAT PROJECT INITIATED. FINALLY, UH, 2019, WE WERE AWARDED NINE POINTS. OUR 2020, WE WERE AWARDED THE MONEY FOR THE HAZMAT GLO HAZMAT. WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A COMPETITION TO HIRE SOMEBODY, TO ENGINEER AND ADMINISTER THAT PROJECT CSRS WAS SELECTED. THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE BACKGROUND. WE'VE FINALLY GETTING READY TO LAUNCH THE ENVIRONMENTAL, AND WE'RE PROBABLY A YEAR AWAY FROM SEEING ACTUAL PROJECTS KICKOFF RELATED TO THOSE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN A WEEK BEFORE LAST, WE WERE INFORMED THAT WE ON TOP OF THAT 9.6 AND THE HARVEY GLO CDBG FUNDING, WE ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING ANOTHER $1.80 FROM, UH, THE METHOD OF DISTRIBUTION FROM HJC AGAIN FOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND HAZARD MITIGATION RELATED TO FLOODING. SO, WHEREAS THAT 9.6 KIND OF FOCUSED ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIND A PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN THAT WE CAN KIND OF BALANCE THAT OUT WITH. AND SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT DOING THAT, BUT THOSE FUNDS ARE ALL REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET AND THEY SHOW UP AND FUND OH FIVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD FOR DRAINAGE AND STREETS AND SUCH. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT MONTH, SO HERE'S WHERE WE STAND TODAY. AND AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INTO YOUR PROJECTION, WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY, VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE GOING OUT, UH, AND CARRYING THOSE COSTS THROUGH. AND DEFRAYING THEM. UH, WE DO HAVE SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH WHERE WE THINK WE NEED TO FINISH OFF THE OTHER. THE OTHER ITEM, I WOULD KNOW, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A SIGNIFICANT [00:25:01] 2 MILLION OR $1.8 MILLION DROP IN VALUE IN TOTAL REVENUE. THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS PROVIDED US WITH $1.4 MILLION IN CASH JUST TO HAVE THEY COUNTED AS REVENUE. THAT MONEY WILL BE DEPOSITED THIS AUGUST. AND THAT IS THE LAST TRAUNCH OF THAT FEDERAL CARROT NOT CARES, ACT RELIEF, BUT COMMUNITY LOCAL GOVERNMENT RELIEF FUND. SO WE'VE, I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT IS AS WE'VE AUGMENTED OUR REVENUE WITH THOSE GRANT FUNDS, THE GRANT FUNDS ARE GOING AWAY. WE HAVEN'T LOST ANY OTHER SIGNIFICANT. AND WE DON'T SEE FOR SEE A DOWNTURN IN OUR ACTUAL OTHER REVENUES. SO, UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY FUND 1 0 1 HAD BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. I FIGURED THIS OUT, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PULLING DOWN ONE-ON-ONE AND APPLYING THAT TO PROJECTS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST TWO YEARS, THAT $800,000 TRANSFER OUT WAS A RESIDUAL. WE ISSUED A BOND IN 2013, UH, OF ABOUT $1.2 MILLION TO SPEND ON VARIOUS PROJECTS. UH, BUT THAT $800,000 HAD BEEN SITTING THERE. SO WE MOVED THAT INTO FUND, UH, OH FIVE FOR STREET DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALKS. AND THEN THIS YEAR WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS, CONSTRUCTION RELATED, UH, TO THE PARKS. MOST OF THAT IS THE PARKS. AND A PART OF THAT ALSO GOES TO, UH, THE, UH, FACILITIES DOWN AT THE SERVICE CENTER TO DO SOME CONSTRUCTION DOWN THERE. LOOKING AT THE KEY CLUE. BEAUTIFUL. WE NEED TO REENERGIZE THAT. THE REALITY IS, IS WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE STAFF TIME TO ALLOCATE TO DOING THAT. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE LEFT A LIFE FALLOW, UH, PLEASE FORFEITURE FUND THAT IS ADMINISTERED BY CHIEF FITCH. AND WE DON'T FORESEE ANY SIGNIFICANT MOVEMENT THERE. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND REPLACEMENT FUND, WE THAT'S WHERE WE BUY OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT, OUR VEHICLES. UH, IF YOU'LL NOTE THAT THIS YEAR WE HAD EXPENDED OR WE'VE EXPENDED, WE ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURE OF ABOUT 723,000 RECOUPING ABOUT 102,000 IN, UM, TO THAT POINT. TYPICALLY IT'S A TRANSFER THAT BUYS DOWN THE ACTUAL COST. AND SO THIS YEAR WE ANTICIPATED, UH, WE ANTICIPATE EXPANDING ABOUT 684,000 ON NEW VEHICLES THAT SHOWS UP THOUGH IS A $520,000 FURNITURE BECAUSE WE OFFSET THAT WITH 10% OF THE COST OF THE VEHICLE BEING CHARGED BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT TO RECHARGE THAT FUND, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WE'RE TRANSFERRING THE LUMP SUM, PURCHASING IT OUT OF THIS FUND, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO TAKING 10% OF THAT TOTAL COST AND PUTTING IT BACK INTO THE FUND. SO IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVE MONEY IN THAT FUND TO, TO FUND VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. NEXT IS THE GENERAL, OH, I GOT IT IN THERE TWICE. IT'S SO EXCITING. WE WANTED TO COVER IT TWICE. THEN YOU SEE THE THREE 80 FUND THAT LOOKS CRYPTICALLY EMPTY. THAT IS WHERE WE TRANSFER MONEY FROM EITHER THE GENERAL FUND, THE SALES TAX FUND OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND BACK INTO THOSE THREE 80 AGREEMENTS. AND AGAIN, I'LL HIT ON THOSE IN JUST A LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR HOT AND CVB FUND WHERE WE HAVE, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR FUND THAT COVERS THE GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL, THE BAND FESTIVAL, ALL OF OUR CVV ACTIVITIES, THE COUNT, THE, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TRANSFER FOR THEIR CVB ACTIVITIES, AS WELL AS, EXCUSE ME, THIS YEAR, THERE'S SOME CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. I GET REALLY EXCITED WHEN I TALK ABOUT IT. CAPITAL EXPENDITURES RELATED TO, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PARTS FACILITY ARE NOT REALLY IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THE CHILLER OVER THERE. AND SO, BECAUSE THEY SHARE IN THE COST OF THAT BUILDING, WE'RE PULLING FUNDS FROM THAT, BUT LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE DRAW LOOKS LIKE. THE REVENUES HAVE BEEN DECREASING OVER TIME BECAUSE A, WE HAD THE PANDEMIC, BUT B THERE'S A LOT MORE COMPETITION FOR HOTELS NOW, UH, COMPARED TO WHERE WE WERE THREE YEARS AGO. AND THAT HAS HURT US. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, SIDEWALK, STREETS, AND DRAINAGE. AGAIN, THAT IS WHERE THE ACTION IS. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD, UH, WE WERE PULLING IN OR HAD PLANNED TO PULL IN THE $4.6 MILLION FROM, UH, THE GLO HAZMAT CONTRACT IN TERMS OF REVENUE PLUS THE SALES TAX REVENUE. UH, AND THEN WE ADDED IN THE $1.2 MILLION IN REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MOD. UH, BUT WE'VE GOT A SLEW OF PROJECTS LINED UP, UH, THAT SOME IN THE HOPPER, SOME THAT HAVE STARTED SOME THAT HAVE NOT STARTED YET. UH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN TOUCHED THE STREETS PROJECTS THAT WE WERE HOPING TO START THIS YEAR. WE DID GET HARGET, UH, AND SEVERAL OTHER SIDE STREETS DONE. UH, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE MAIN ONES STARTED IN QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE IN JULY. THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE GOING TO THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO, WE'VE HAD TO PUSH THOSE INTO NEXT YEAR. SAME THING WITH THE SIDEWALK PROJECTS. WE THINK WE CAN FINISH THIS SHANK SEGMENT BETWEEN PLANTATION AND COMMERCE BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THIS YEAR, UH, THERE WAS A LOT MORE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAN ANY OF THOSE SECTIONS WE'VE DONE SO FAR BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE IN SOME DITCHES. UH, AND THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF WORK. WE GET THE PIPE. DID WE GET THE [00:30:01] PUMP? CAN WE GET THE PIPERS THAT JUST DON'T ORDER NOW WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE RIGHT. SEE, THAT'S AWESOME. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. NO, THE SAME SENTENCE. OKAY. SORRY. I GET CONFUSED ON MY SIDES, BUT YEAH, IT'LL BE ON THAT SIDE. SO, UH, AND THAT'LL CARRY NORTHERN CARIBBEAN, UH, THAT COMPLETES THAT KIND OF LOOP, UH, IN THE SIDEWALK CIP PLAN. AND SO OUR NEXT JUMP IS GOING TO BE DOWN TO DIXIE DRIVE, UM, AND START THAT AS WELL AS FINISH OFF THE STUFF HERE ON MAIN STREET AND I'LL, UM, PRE PREVIEWING. SO I'LL STOP. AND WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT FUNDS, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. UH, THERE'S SOME CHANGES THERE THAT WE'LL DISCUSS ABOUT WHERE WE HOPE TO GO WITH, UH, WITH SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. UH, BUT IT'S HELD PRETTY STATIC, UH, GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL AS ALWAYS. UH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT A MONEYMAKER. WE'D HAD OUR BEST YEAR THAT WE'VE HAD THOUGH LAST YEAR. UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE FUNDS NEXT, PLEASE. ENTERPRISE FUNDS. UH, AGAIN, WE'RE SITTING ON A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE, BUT WE DO SEE SOME EXPENDITURE DRAW. WE HAVE SHIFTED THE WAY WE'VE ALLOCATED SOME OF THOSE FUNDS ACROSS BOARD, BUT WE ARE ANTICIPATING AGAIN, AN INCREASE IN REVENUE OR AN INCREASE IN RATE. UH, PART OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY BWA. THEY RAISED THEIR TOTAL AGGREGATE RATE BY ABOUT 12%, UM, READILY KIND OF TAKE THE AIR OUT OF OUR ABILITY, UH, TO RAISE RATES TOO MUCH MORE. BUT WE THINK IF WE CAN DO AN 8% INCREASE, WE HAVE A MODEST INC THAT, THAT RESULTS IN ABOUT A 3% INCREASE FOR US, AND IT COVERS OUR COST ASSOCIATED WITH BWA BWA IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW THAT ALL FLOWS THROUGH. ONCE WE GET INTO THAT FUND ENTERPRISE REPLACEMENT FUND, UH, THERE IS ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE'RE ANTICIPATING ORDERING, UH, IN THE, IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND NEXT, PLEASE. UH, THE UNEMPLOYMENT FUND IS, IS WHAT IT IS, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION FUND. WE DO HAVE A DRAW THERE FOR SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL LINE WORK, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, TRYING TO DO AT SOME REPLACEMENTS, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH ON THE CIP. SO THAT KIND OF COVERS ALL OF THE FUND BALANCES, UH, AND WHAT THE ACTIVITIES WE ANTICIPATE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ARE, UH, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THIS TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE LEARNED, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND AGAIN, THE GENERAL FUND IS KIND OF WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. SO, UH, WELL THAT'S OKAY. LOOKING AT IT FROM A, UH, FROM A HOLISTIC POINT OF VIEW, UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE FINISHING THE YEAR WITH A QUITE HEALTHY REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES, JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE, THAT ARTIFICIALLY INFLATES, THAT FUND BALANCE UP. AND THEN WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT $11 MILLION IN REVENUE JUST UNDER THAT. AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF THE REVENUE BREAKOUT. AGAIN, THIS IS PREDICATED ON A 3.5% INCREASE TO THE PROPERTY TAX. UH, WE ARE SEEING BASICALLY THE SAME NUMBERS IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, DELINQUENT AND PENALTY AND INTEREST, UH, THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR, ALTHOUGH WE DID GET ANOTHER, DID YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PROJECTION ANTICIPATE THE NUMBERS WE GOT YESTERDAY. OKAY. SO THE DELINQUENCY AND, UH, PENALTY AND INTEREST REVENUE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TO IN THE YEAR. AND, BUT ON TRENDS, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ARE, UH, SALES TAX REVENUE. WE'VE SEEN THE INCREASE ASSOCIATED, ESPECIALLY WITH ONLINE PURCHASING. AND THEN ALSO ALI'S IN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT WE'VE HAD GOING ON. SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT KICKING UP TO ABOUT 1.4 MILLION, HOPEFULLY MORE, UH, BUT YOU ALWAYS ERR ON THE SIDE OF CONSERVATIVE BEING CONSERVATIVE, UH, AND THEN 1.9 IN THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AGREEMENT. AND THAT'S THE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES THAT WE RECEIVE FROM VASF. SO, UH, ONCE UPON A TIME, UH, THERE WAS A GREAT RUSH TO ANNEX ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREA ACROSS 3 32, UH, THAT THAT'S THE STUFF OF LORE AND LEGEND. I THINK THERE WERE DRAGONS INVOLVED, UM, BUT, UH, BASICALLY LAKE JACKSON, CLUTE, FREEPORT, ALL THERE WAS A LAND RUSH. THEY CROSS ANNEXED, THE STATE THREW THEIR HANDS UP, SEND IT BACK TO COURT. IT WAS LITIGATED. AND BASICALLY THE DECISION WAS, IS THERE WOULD BE THE CREATION OF WHAT'S CALLED THE IDA OR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. AND THEN THEY WOULD PAY PROPERTY TAXES TO EACH ENTITY ON A PRO RATA BASIS. I WILL SAY THAT THE DEAL WASN'T VERY KIND TO KLUTE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. UM, AND SO WE GET ABOUT 1.5 TO $1.9 MILLION THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 87% OF THE TAXABLE VALUE ON THE PROPERTY. NOW, NEW AG CAME IN, SO THAT'S ADDITIONAL VALUE THAT CAME UP. UM, BUT YOU, UH, WHAT WE TALKED TO MR. LANDRIEU ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL WAS FOR NEW VALUE, THERE DIDN'T QUITE HAVE YET WHAT THE VALUE MIGHT BE ON THAT PROPERTY. SO WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE IMPACT IS, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, ABOUT YOU [00:35:01] GROWTH, WE'VE COME UP ABOUT $200,000 PER YEAR. NOW THAT AGREEMENT EXPIRES IN 2026, WE HAD ATTEMPTED, IF Y'ALL WERE RECALL, CALL BACK IN 2019 TO EXTEND IT THROUGH 2030, UM, LIKE JACKSON FREEPORT INCLUDE HAD ALL SUGGESTED THAT, UM, AND SOME OF THE LANDOWNERS VASF DOW OLIN ALL HAD AGREED TO IT. SOME OF THE LANDOWNERS IN THAT AREA FELT LIKE THEY COULD LEVERAGE THE LIVE AT THE LEGISLATURE TO GET AWAY FROM THE POTENTIAL FOR ANNEXATION, BECAUSE WHAT'S LOOMING TO KIND OF EXPLAIN IT. IF THEY'RE ANNEX, THEY HAVE TO PAY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TAX. AND SO THE IDEA WAS IS THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE INDUSTRY IN THAT AREA WAS LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE ANNEXED AND PAY ALL THAT PROPERTY TAX. SO WE'LL PAY YOU A MODICUM IN LIEU OF TAXES ON THE PROMISE THAT YOU WILL NOT ANNEX US. SO THIS AGREEMENT CLEARLY STATES THAT WE WILL NOT ANNEX THEM PERIOD INTO STORY UNTIL THE AGREEMENT RUNS OUT. AND THE 2020 IN THE 2019 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, A HOUSE BILL AT 3 47 CAME OUT AND SAID THAT CITIES CAN NO LONGER, EVEN IF THEIR HOME RULE CAN NO LONGER GO OUT AND ARBITRARILY ANNEX PROPERTY IN THEIR ETJ, IT HAS TO BE DONE ON PETITION, BUT FOR THOSE AREAS UNDER INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AGREEMENTS. AND ONCE THOSE AGREEMENTS EXPIRE IT'S FAIR GAME. UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE LOBBYIST FOR ONE OF THE LANDOWNER GROUPS WAS FURIOUS THAT, THAT GOT PUT BACK IN. UM, AND THIS IS VERY RARELY WELL ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE, UH, THE KINDNESS OF SPEAKER BONNEN, BUT WE REALLY ADVOCATED HARD WITH HIM. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE LAST THINGS HE WAS ABLE TO DO WAS TO GET THAT PRESERVED BECAUSE THE IMPACT ON THIS AREA WOULD BE REALLY DRAMATIC. AND SO WE HAVE POSITIONED OURSELVES, IF YOU'LL RECALL, IN 2020, WE EXTENDED WATER SERVICES INTO THE BHSF TRACT. UH, AND WE ARE THE ONLY CITY THAT IS ACTUALLY ACTIVELY PROVIDING WATER TO, OR UTILITIES TO ONE OF THE PLANTS WITH THE EYE TOWARDS ONCE THAT AGREEMENT EXPIRES. IF IT'S NOT RENEGOTIATED, THAT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL. AND ACTUALLY THEIR CONTRACT REQUIRES THEM. IF THE IDA GOES AWAY TO PETITION FOR ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY. SO WE WOULD ENTER THAT VALUE. UM, WE LAID THAT OUT STRATEGICALLY AT THE TIME IN AN EFFORT TO POSITION OURSELVES, TO BE ABLE TO ENTER THAT. NOW I'VE GOT A FEELING THAT SINCE THE POISON PILL DIDN'T WORK, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO RENEGOTIATE THE IDA, PROBABLY BEGINNING THIS YEAR, I'M GOING TO BE A STRONG VOCAL ADVOCATE. AND WE WILL BE A STRONG GLOBAL APP FOR REALLOCATION BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT GETTING, I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR FIRST YEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOVEMENT WILL BE THERE. SO WE DON'T INCLUDE THOSE FUNDS. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD. AND THOSE FUNDS WOULD NOT START TO ACCUMULATE FOR US UNTIL 2027 AT THE EARLIEST. SO THAT'S A KIND OF A BIG PICTURE VIEW OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE IDA. UM, ALL OTHER FUNDS. UH, WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WE WERE CHARGING FOR PERMITS. UH, WE'RE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE AREA NOBODY'S ANTICIPATING ANY INCREASE. WE DO SEE A PRETTY HEFTY INCREASE IN GARBAGE. UH, NOW OUR COSTS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF, UH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO, I THINK WE PROPOSE THAT REFLECTS A 7.5% INCREASE IN GARBAGE RATES. UM, WE'VE MADE THE MOVE TO TRY AND GET THE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION WASTE, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THE COSTS ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY EATING US ALIVE. AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES FILLING THIS PINCH, TALKING TO PRIVATE SECTOR FOLKS, THEY'RE DEALING WITH HUGE LOSSES ON CONTRACTS AND GUARANTEED SERVICES LIKE JACKSON. UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING VERY FREQUENTLY WITH MR. MUNDO AND HIS STAFF. UM, THEY, AT ONE POINT WERE ACTUALLY READY TO GIVE UP THE GHOST AND GO BACK AND GET A PRIVATE SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S JUST BECOME FROM A LABOR PARTS, OPERATIONAL COSTS. IT'S JUST HELL TRYING TO KEEP IT GOING. SO, UM, WE OFFER WHAT IS CONSIDERED CONCIERGE LEVEL SERVICE. WE INTEND TO CONTINUE PROVIDING THAT CONCIERGE LEVEL SERVICE, BUT IT'S COSTING US. SO WE'VE GOT, AND WE NEED TO REFLECT THAT. AND I, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE RAISED RATES SINCE 2016 IN THAT FUND EITHER. SO, OH, CAN YOU GO BACK UP JUST ONE SECOND, IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE, YOU AGAIN, SEE THAT 1.448, WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE THOSE INFLATED REVENUES FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. THAT'S THE C L F R F FUNDS. AND WE WILL SEE THAT NEXT DEPOSIT IN AUGUST, THOSE FUNDS, UH, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE ALLOCATED BECAUSE WE OPERATE EMS. UH, WE WERE ABLE TO DRAW DOWN THE ENTIRE OF THOSE FUNDS TO BUY DOWN THE PERSONNEL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH EMS, A PORTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE. SO THOSE CALLS, THOSE REVENUES BASICALLY HELPED TO OFFSET THOSE EXPENDITURES IF YOU WILL NEXT. OH, THAT'D BE GOOD. AND SO WE HAVE A BOTTOM LINE WE ANTICIPATE, UH, WE DID, IF YOU WILL RECALL LAST SUMMER AND RENEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT, EXCUSE [00:40:01] ME, GET REAL EMOTIONAL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RICHWOOD, UH, THE, UH, AGREEMENT WITH RICHWOOD FOR THE PROVISION OF EMS SERVICES. UH, AND THEY AGREED TO A RATE INCREASE OF 153 TO 44, WHICH MORE COVERS OUR COSTS, PLUS JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL AGGREGATE REVENUE OR ANTICIPATED TOTAL AGGREGATE REVENUE OF $11 MILLION. AND AGAIN, WE THINK WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX, AND WE THINK WE MIGHT SEE ADDITIONAL VALUE HIT THE GROUND FOR PROPERTY TAXES, BUT WE DON'T OCCLUDE WHAT WE THINK WE TRY AND GO AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE ON THE REVENUE SIDE NEXT, TAKING A LOOK AT THE, UH, TOTAL ON THE, UH, GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE HELD THE LINE AND ACTUALLY CUT EXPENDITURES OR ANTICIPATE CUTTING EXPENDITURES PRETTY MUCH IN EVERY DEPARTMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS. BUT THERE AGAIN, THAT'S A LOT OF THAT IS REFLECTED AND OPERATIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH EQUIPMENT OPERATION FUEL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THAT HITS. UH, SO WE'VE TRIED TO ADJUST OURSELVES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE UP FOR THAT. UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A, UH, MIGHT ITEM TOTAL DECREASE OF EXPENDITURES, UM, COMPARED TO THE YEAR BEFORE LAST, BUT WE'VE CARRIED OVER A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PROJECTS FROM THE YEAR PRIOR. SO THAT'S THAT NET DELTA THERE. UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE INTEND TO MAKE THAT OUT. THAT IS MY SUMMARY ON THE FUNDS AND OVERALL TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE DIG IN WHY HE HAS NO HAIR, THAT IS FOR SURE. AND ANIMALS AND ULCERS, THEN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE TIME. YES, SIR. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO? WHICH PART WOULD YOU LIKE? MAYBE THAT THE WHOLE THING. THE WHOLE THING. OKAY. SO ONCE UPON A TIME, NO, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FIVE VIDEO THIS MORNING. SO HE'S GOING TO BE FIRST IN THE FIRING LINE FIRST, FIRST IN THE FIRING LINE. HOLD ON. THIS IS WHAT, WHAT COLOR IS THE PAIN? UH, SO IF YOU GO TO THE ONE THAT HAS THE SEAL FOR THE CITY FIRE MARSHAL FUND, OH ONE DASH FOUR ONE. OH, AND THEY ARE IN OH ONE DASH OH FOUR ONE OH, YES. SKIP PAGE. YEAH, WE DID. WE DID NOT PAY JENNY. PARDON? MY APOLOGIES. OH YEAH. BE HONEST. OH, I'M ON FOUR 11. I DUNNO. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO FOR THE WAY WE, OUR PUNCH STRUCTURE KIND OF GET DISCOMBOBULATED AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE A RECAP. YOU MEAN PAGE NUMBER NUMBER SO, UM, AS I SAID, WE HAVE MR. UP TO HERE. UH, THERE ARE, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FUNDS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN SOME GROWTH. OH, LET ME, I GUESS I GOT REALLY LEAN IN. OKAY, THERE WE GO. CAN YOU EVERYBODY? WE GOOD. SO I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A PA ANNOUNCER WHEN I WAS A KID. THIS IS NOT JUST SKIN. THIS IS KIND OF LIVE IN A DREAM OR BE IN A PRESS CONFERENCE. UH, AS I SAID, UH, MR. UPTON AND THE FARMAR SOPHOS, ONE OF THE FEW DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE ACTUALLY SEE AN INCREASE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, OR A COUPLE OF CHANGES, UH, COMING THROUGH THIS DEPARTMENT. UH, AS YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR, WE ADDED A STAFF PERSON TO ASSIST WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. UH, TITO RODRIGUEZ JOINED THE TEAM. HE'S STILL TRAINING. UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO NEED TO REPLACE. THERE'S A, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW OLD, THE FORD EXPEDITION THAT YOU INHERITED 2007. SO IT'S 15 YEARS. IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S SEEN A GOOD LIFE, BUT IT'S TIME TO SEND IT OUT TO PASTURE AND REPLACE THAT VEHICLE. SO THAT'S REFLECTED DOWN AT THE CAPITAL CAPITAL VEHICLE STRUCTURE. THERE'LL BE A TRANSFER IN FROM 1 0 6 AND THE TRANSFER OUT OF 1 0 6 OR BACK TO 1 0 6 OR 10% OF THE TOTAL VALUE OF THAT VEHICLE, PLUS IT'S OUTFITTING. UM, BUT THE MAJOR CHANGE COMES, UH, IN THE, UH, CONTRACT SERVICES, UH, 50 [00:45:01] TO 70 OR 45 70. AND I'LL KIND OF LIKE STEVE, TALK ABOUT WHAT HIS VISION IS FOR THAT DEPARTMENT, UH, IN TERMS OF TRAINING AND POTENTIALLY BRINGING BACK SOME RESIDUAL REVENUE ONCE WE'VE MADE THIS CHANGE. GOOD MORNING. UH, ONE ADDITION WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE BECAUSE THE DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL, WE HAVE USED TO RUN THE RECRUIT TRAIN AT TEAKS COLLEGE STATION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET CERTIFIED BY THE FIRE COMMISSION WHERE WE CAN START TEACHING ONLINE, POSSIBLY INLINE CLASSES, UH, ON SOME FIRE, UH, CLASSES WHERE THAT WOULD BRING SOME REVENUE IN. UM, AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE SOFTWARE IS. IN ADDITION IN THE PAST THE, UH, FIRE RECORDING SOFTWARE FOR APARTMENT INSPECTIONS, ALL THE FIRE MARSHAL INSPECTIONS WAS PAID BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. NOW WE'RE SPLITTING THE COST OF THAT. SO THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THERE THAT WAS IN THEIR BUDGET BEFORE, INSTEAD OF OURS ON THE SOFTWARE. UM, AND THEY, UH, KENYAN EDUCATION, UH, TRAINING IS WHERE THE, UM, A LOT OF THE LICENSE AND RENEWAL FEES ARE COMING FROM, FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS. UH, WE HAVE, UH, MYSELF, I HAVE, UH, FIRE, THE POLICE COMMISSION, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND HEALTH INSPECTIONS AND THE PLUMBING NIP. I DIDN'T MENTION THE F UH, CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE. UH, AND IN ADDITION TO TRYING TO GET WITH THE, UH, FIRE COMMISSION, GETTING THAT SET UP FOR TRAINING, WE'RE TRYING TO ADVISE SOME CLASSES FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE FOR THE CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR YET, AND TRIED TO KEEP IT IN HOUSE WHERE WE CAN GET ALL OF THAT, UH, WHERE WE SAVE TRAVEL. UM, AND OF COURSE TRAINING IS THE KEY. UM, WE HAD A MEETING BACK IN FEBRUARY, I BELIEVE THIS PAST YEAR WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THEM WERE COMPLIANT, WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS, UH, SHORTLY AFTER THE INCREASE OF THE FEES, UH, THAT Y'ALL APPROVED. AND WE WENT FROM 15 TO 20 INSPECTIONS MONTH TO 75, TO A HUNDRED PERSPECTIVES ON THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAD FALLEN IN LINE AND RECORDING THEIR VACANCIES. LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO MODIFY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. INSTEAD OF JUST THE CURRENT THING IS THAT WE HAVE OUR NEW SOFTWARE THAT IS BEING UPGRADED BECAUSE THE CURRENT SOFTWARE IS, UH, BEING UNSUPPORTED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE HAVING TO UPGRADE THE SOFTWARE AND THAT'S WHY THE INCREASE ON THE SOFTWARE ALSO ON THAT PART. AND I BELIEVE THEY MOVED AT MINE ITEM ON THE, I WORKS THE COLTON, UH, INSPECTION, THE HEALTH INSPECTION SOFTWARE FROM ANOTHER LINE INTO THIS LINE ITEM ON THE CONTRACT SURFACES. AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE IN THAT 45 70. CORRECT. SO MR. UPTON, AGAIN, ALSO HANDLES PLUMBING INSPECTIONS, HEALTH INSPECTIONS, INSPIRE INSPECTIONS. UH, CARRIE IS HANDLING THE APARTMENT INSPECTIONS AND THEN CARRIE, STEVE, AND TITO HANDLE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STUFF TOO AS WELL. IT'S A LOT TO COVER. YES, SIR. I WEAR A LOT OF HATS. ANY QUESTIONS? IS IT JUST GOING TO BE THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT, UM, GUESS FROM AN EXPEDITION WE'RE GOING TO THE TAHOE? CAUSE I BELIEVE THE TAHOE'S ARE CHEAPER THAN EXPEDITION, SO IT'S A SIMILAR TYPE OF VEHICLE. YES, SIR. YEAH. IT'LL BE AN SUV, UH, PROBABLY A TAHOE. WE THREATENED THEM ALL WITH, UH, GOING TO, UH, TESLAS, BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO WANT TO TAKE AT THIS POINT, SO I'M SURE THAT'LL MAKE JEFF HAPPY. THANK YOU. THANKS YOU WITH THAT. WE'LL FLIP BACK UP TO FUND 4 0 8, WHICH IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF I CAN LEARN HOW TO WORK THE MOUSE. OKAY. NO, THAT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE EITHER. OH, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? NO, IT WAS WORKING JUST FINE A SECOND AGO. I THINK IT DIED. UH, THERE'S NO LIGHTS ON, WAIT. YEAH. THERE'S NO LIGHTS ON IT. IS IT ON TURN ON OFF TO SAVE BATTERY LIFE AND [00:50:06] OH, HERE'S YOUR, OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, COOL. OH, SURE, SURE. YEAH, HERE WE GO. UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, POLICE PUBLIC SAFETY ARE OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT FUNCTION OR ONE OF OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT FUNCTIONS. AND SO AS SUCH, IT REFLECTS PROBABLY AN OUTSIZED PORTION OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET EVERY YEAR, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S THE PRICE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. I'LL LET CHIEF FITCH KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES. UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT. WE PROBABLY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME NEXT YEAR. UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO HOLD THE LINE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS COVERED AS WE, AS WE MOVE AROUND. SO CHIEF I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY. OKAY. UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES FOR US. UM, WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO TRY TO DO MORE WITH LESS. UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS WE DID CUT OUR, UH, OPERATIONAL BUDGET, RIGHT ABOUT 10, 10%, UM, TAKING SOME THINGS THAT WE WERE GOING TO BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE SAVED SOME MONEY. WE WENT AHEAD AND BOUGHT THEM, UM, OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET VERSUS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. UM, THINGS AROUND THE PD, UH, THAT TYPE OF THING. THE, UH, PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING THAT WE'RE DOING IS, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH EMS AND THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AN EMS RADIO CHANNEL. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THEM TO THAT CHANNEL. IT WILL ASSIST IN THAT THEY WON'T HAVE TO USE THEIR PAGERS. THEY'LL USE THE ACTUAL RADIOS, UH THEY'RE IN THEIR SLEEPING QUARTERS. SO THERE WAS SOME COST TO THAT OF, OF HAVING ANOTHER CONSULATE FOR THAT. BUT I MEAN, SAFETY WISE FOR BOTH OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO, UH, MAKE IT MUCH BETTER JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES THAT EMS PERSONNEL NEED TO TALK ON THE RADIO. THERE'S AN OFFICER CHECKING OUT ON TRAFFIC DOING SOMETHING ARE VICE VERSA. SO THIS KIND OF SEPARATES THOSE, THOSE ARE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE, UH, THE ONLY REAL CHANGED, UH, WITH THE DEPARTMENT. UM, THE, THE ONLY THING WE IN STARTING THE BUDGET PROCESS, I DID ASK FOR PERSONNEL. AND JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT, WE HAVEN'T ADDED AN OFFICER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDED OVER FOUR, 500 HOMES IN THE CITY PLUS BUSINESSES. SO GOING FORWARD AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD OFFICERS, UH, TO THAT, UH, JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK CURRENTLY, UM, WE'RE FULL AND DISPATCH, I'M DOWN THREE OFFICERS BECAUSE OF WHAT Y'ALL DID, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WITH OUR PAY. WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT, UH, TURNOVER OUT OF THE THREE OFFICERS THAT WERE DOWN, ONLY ONE OF THEM LEFT ON THEIR OWN. THE OTHER TWO WAS MY DECISION. UM, AND THE DEPARTMENT'S BETTER FOR THAT. SO, UM, WE JUST KEEP TRUCKING ALONG. I WOULD A NOTE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, THE FACILITIES PLANNING, UH, WE DO HAVE $40,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR FACILITIES PLANNING AND FUTURE GROWTH. UH, WE ARE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS IN THAT BUILDING AND THAT BUILDING IS SLOWLY FALLING APART. NOW, UH, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A MAJOR RENOVATION TO MOVE THE SERVERS, UH, TO CAN STAIN CJIS COMPLIANCE, WHICH ALLOWS HIM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACCESS TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM. UH, WE HAVE, WE WRAPPED THAT AUDIT YET, OR WE'RE STILL IN FOR W THEY WERE, WE'VE WRAPPED OUR AUDIT UP WITH THAT WITH THE PROMISES THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIX OUR DEFICIENCY. AND SO ONE OF THE DEFICIENCIES WAS THE LOCATION OF THE SERVERS. WE HAD VIRTUALIZED THE SERVER, WHICH MEANS WE WERE RUNNING ON THE CLOUD GOING TO INTERNALLY TO OUR OTHER SERVER, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE SERVER FARM OF THE EMS. WE'VE HAD TO MOVE THAT SERVER BACK INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THEY HAVE A REALLY ARCANE RULE THAT THE SERVER MUST BE WITHIN THE VISUAL WE HAVE TO, THE SERVER HAS TO BE IN LINE OF SIGHT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MUST OWN EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. RIGHT. SO, UH, THAT'S COUNT. AND I WILL TELL YOU, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT'S WHAT COMES FROM THE FBI THAT SAYS TO HAVE THAT. SO, UM, I I'LL TELL YOU THE HOOPS THAT WE HAVE TO JUMP [00:55:01] THROUGH AND MAINTAIN TO HAVE THE ACCESS TO THAT ARE, ARE QUITE, UM, A LOT. SO WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A SIGNIFICANT RENOVATION, AND WE WERE ABLE TO, I GUESS, UH, EAST TEXAS ENGINEERS, SOME SPOT COOLING FOR THE SERVER ROOM, THAT'S GOING TO GET US THROUGH UNTIL WE CAN GET A, A NEW FACILITY TO KEEP IT GOING. UM, BUT AS YOU'LL RECALL, UH, FACT, DURING THE WINTER STORM EVENT, THIS WAS OUR KEY POINT OF FAILURE WAS OUR GENERATOR IN THAT, IN THAT BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT CONTROLLED AT THE TIME, ALL OF THE EMS, ALL OF THE NINE 11, UH, DISPATCH SYSTEM, PLUS IT WAS HOME TO THE INTERNET CONTROLLER UNIT, INTERNET CONTROL UNIT HAS BEEN, HAS IT BEEN RELOCATED? NO, IT'S STILL THERE TOO. ALL RIGHT. COOL. SO EVERYTHING'S EXPOSED IN A ROOM THAT WASN'T DESIGNED FOR HPAC. SO WE'VE HAD TO MODIFY THAT. UH, AND THEN AS YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR, WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT BY HJC TO REPLACE THE GENERATOR. UH, WE PURCHASED THE GENERATOR THAT SITTING THERE TO WORK ON STANDBY THAT ONLY POWERS THE, UH, THAT ONLY RUNS THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING. IT DOESN'T RUN THE, UH, THE AC THE AC SYSTEM, SO WE CAN KEEP THE OPERATIONS GOING, BUT THERE'S NO AC IN THE BUILDING OR NO HEAT IN THE BUILDING. IF THAT'S THE CASE WITH THAT GENERATOR WE HAVE ON SITE, WE HAD HOPED TO BE ABLE TO REPORT TO YOU THIS TIME, THIS YEAR THAT WE HAD INSTALLED A NEW GENERATOR, AND IT WAS DELTA CONFIGURED. EVERYTHING WAS GOOD. WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT JANUARY, JANUARY NEXT YEAR. SO A FULL 19 MONTH LAG FROM THE TIME WE GET THE AWARDS TO THE TIME IT'S COMING IN, AND LORD KNOWS WHAT IT MAY DO TO THE COST, BUT WE WERE PREPARED TO ABSORB THAT. SO THAT COST IS ALSO AN IMPORT ENCAPSULATED IN HERE. UH, WE ARE DEFERRING THOSE COSTS THAT COST TO THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, ALONG WITH THE CONSTRUCTION FUND, PICKING UP THE TAB FOR THE FACILITIES PLANNING. SO, UH, GOOD TIMES ANY QUESTIONS. THESE ARE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EACH ONE OF THESE MEANS. WHAT IS LONGEVITY? OKAY. SO LONGEVITY PAY IS, UH, WE PAY A, I CAN'T USE THE B WORD. SO IT'S A ONE-TIME ANNUAL PAYMENT TO STAFF WHERE THEIR LOYALTY TO THE CITY, AND IT ACCRUES AT THE RATE OF $4 A MONTH, $4 A MONTH. SO EVERY MONTH THAT YOU'RE HERE, YOU ACCRUE FOR THE EXTRA DOLLARS. AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE PAY YOU A ONE-TIME PAYMENT OF WHATEVER, THAT AMOUNT FOR YOUR LONGEVITY, WITH THE CITY. GOT IT. UH, IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PAY BONUSES OR RESIDUALS OR ANY KIND OF ONE-TIME OFFSET OTHER THAN LONGEVITY PER THE CONSTITUTION. SO THAT'S HOW WE DO THAT. WE'VE ALSO AUGMENTED OUR PAY WITH SOME CERTIFICATE PAY, UH, SHOULD HAVE TOUCHED ON THAT IN THE BEGINNING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO NOW ALSO, UH, FOR BILINGUAL STAFF IN ORDER TO TRY AND KEEP THEM, UH, GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT EXTRA PER MONTH SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THEM IN THE FOLD AS IT WERE I GUESS, JUST FOR QUESTION, THE SPECIAL SERVICES WHAT'S LISTED UNDER THAT, THAT IT SHOWS AN INCREASE THEIR TOP 45 55 THAT'S THE CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATOR THAT'S YES, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S OUR, ALL OF OUR INVESTIGATION COST. UM, ANYTIME WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING SENT OFF TO A SPECIALIZED LAB, UM, CELL PHONE TYPE STUFF, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS STAY ON THAT ALL GOES INTO THOSE CALLS. JUST SAW THE INCREASE ON THIS CRAP. THEY GO UP BUDGETS, THE BUDGETS, THE EXPENDITURES. OKAY. YEAH, IT'S JUST THE MATTER OF HOW MUCH WE USE YEAR-TO-YEAR DIFFERS, UM, FOR THAT. NOW THEY DID. WE'VE, WE'VE INVESTED, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH LAKE JACKSON, UH, FREEPORT AND, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE TO TRY TO OFFSET THE, TO TRY TO GET A, ONCE WE GET S UH, A SEARCH WARRANT FOR A CELL PHONE TO TRY TO, UM, GET THAT INFORMATION, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. UM, THE COST OF THAT OF SENDING IT OFF IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. WE'VE GONE IN WITH ALL THE FOUR DEPARTMENT CHEERING THAT COST OF TRYING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT OURSELVES. THAT ACTUALLY DID GO UP A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR IN THAT, UM, AND THERE'LL BE CERTAIN STAFF HERE THAT'LL SHAKE BEFORE THIS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU IF, IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT [01:00:01] WHAT IS ON YOUR PHONE, GET AN APPLE IPHONE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE TOUGHEST AND HARDEST AND MOST EXPENSIVE PHONE TO GET INTO. UM, AND SO, UH, THEY TAKE THEIR STUFF VERY SERIOUS, BUT WE HAVE UPGRADED THAT TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THOSE PHONES AS WELL. AND THEY'RE, , UM, THE, THE, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED MAYBE YOU HAD PAID SOME STUFF WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR WAS, WAS THAT THE OFFICE EQUIPMENT OR YES, SIR. UH, WE, WE WENT AHEAD. UM, AND SO THE CHAIRS IN THE PATROL ROOM WERE, AND SO THEY WEREN'T THE CHAIRS THAT WE WANTED, BUT THEY WERE, THEY'LL DO JUST FINE. AND WE ACTUALLY GOT THOSE IN THIS WEEK, UM, AND PUT THEM TOGETHER AND THEY'RE GOING TO SERVE PRETTY WELL. UM, WE TOOK SOME OF THE MONEY. WE HAD THE WRAP RESTRAINTS THAT WE USE IN, UH, UH, VEHICLES. WE WENT AHEAD AND BOUGHT THOSE, OUR NARCOTIC STATION. WE HAD ACTUALLY BUDGETED FOR, AND WE USED OUR OWN, UH, MYSELF AND, UH, SERGEANT DUVALL USED OUR CARPENTRY SKILLS TO BUILD IT OURSELVES TO SAVE THAT MONEY. UM, JUST ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO TRY TO CUT THE BUDGET BACK A LITTLE BIT AND DECENT THINGS. UH, WE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO WHAT IS TMR S OH, THAT'S THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM. AND SO THE CITY MATCHES EACH EMPLOYEE. UM, I WAS EVERYBODY GIGGLES, UH, CAUSE I ALWAYS GET IT MESSED UP, BUT BASICALLY THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTES 7% AND THEN THE CITY MATCHES THAT, UH, TO CREATE A PENSION FUND FOR THE TEACHER'S RETIREMENT. EXACTLY. EXCEPT WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION TO CARRY THE INSURANCE. SO IT'S LIKE TEACHERS 'CAUSE I KNOW THOSE COMPUTERS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE STATION TOO, WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO THEY. YEAH. AND ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY I HAD ACCIDENTALLY AND IT WAS PURELY ACCIDENT. I DIDN'T CATCH ON PURPOSE. I HAD ACCIDENTALLY ADMITTED THAT THE $6,100 FOR HIS NEW TERMINAL UNITS. SO WAIT. YES, I DID THAT. SO WE RESTRUCTURED OUR INFORMATION, OUR IT PURCHASING IT'S A SEPARATE LIST THAT LANDO DEVELOPS AND CHRIS HAD PUT IT ON THE SHEETS AND THEN I JUST PLAIN FORGOT TO PUT IT IN THERE. SO AS LONG AS IT'S SOMEWHERE WHERE I'VE ACCOUNTED FOR IT IN THESE SHEETS NOW, SO THEY CUT THAT THIS MORNING. SO THIS IS ALWAYS VERY MUCH A WORK IN PROGRESS RIGHT UP UNTIL THE MOMENT WE ADOPT ONE THING, UM, JUST IN LIGHT OF THE PAST WEEK AND THE NEWS, JUST FOR THE CHAR, WHERE ONE THING THAT WE DID DO OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AS WELL IS EACH VEHICLE IS NOW EQUIPPED WITH A, THEY, EVERY OFFICER ALREADY CARRY, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THEIR BALLISTICS VEST, BUT THOSE VESTS ARE ONLY RATED FOR HANDGUNS. WE HAVE NOW EACH WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO EACH INDIVIDUAL OFFICER, BUT EACH VEHICLE IS NOW EQUIPPED WITH A RIFLE RATED VEST. THAT'S A, WHAT I TOLD THEM WAS A ONE, ONE SIZE FITS MOST, UM, TYPE VEST AND EVEN KNOW THEY, THEY CAN GET INTO IT. IT JUST WILL COVER A LITTLE SMALLER PORTION, BUT STILL WE'LL COVER THE VITAL ORGANS. UH, BUT THEY, THOSE ARE RIFLE RIGHT IN. SO NOW THERE IS ONE IN EVERY VEHICLE TO WHERE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING, UH, TO DO, UM, WE, WE HAVE TAKEN THIS WITH BIS D AND A LITTLE BIT OFF SUBJECT, BUT JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT, UM, WE'VE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY OVER THE PAST WEEK AND A HALF THAT EVERY SHIFT HAS GONE TO THE, TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. UM, AND I URGE YOU WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR GRAND OPENING TO GO LOOK AT IT, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY WALKED EVERY INCH OF THE HIGH SCHOOL SO THAT THEY GET A GOOD LAYOUT OF IT. UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S NEW AND I WILL TELL YOU IT'S A TACTICAL NIGHTMARE. UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING NO CHANGES. UM, SO THAT IF SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN WHERE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED THAN WHAT WE WERE, [01:05:04] ANOTHER JAR OR SUFFERING ON THE FUEL INTO THIS, I'M SURE. PLEASE PROBABLY PROBABLY GOT THE VEHICLE, PROBABLY GOT THE MOST USED VEHICLE IN THE CITY. I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET SOMEWHERE THEY'RE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR AWHILE, UH, ACCEPTING OF, OF THE GOVERNMENT AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT LIKE I SAID, I READ THE POLICE VEHICLES. WE GOT NO MONEY THAT BUDGET GOVERNMENT FUEL. YES. SO WE, ON THE, ON THE FIELD CROSS ACROSS THE WEB, WE THINK WE DO ON THE FIELD ON THE FUEL COST. YES. UH, OF COURSE WE BUY FUEL IN BULK. SO WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCOUNT, NOT A WHOLE LOT, UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO, UH, WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT. UH, WE PROJECT INTO THIS BUDGET, A 40% NET INCREASE, UH, OVER EXPENDITURE, NOT BUDGET FOR FUEL COSTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET. SO, UH, JUST LOOKING AT TREND, WE ANTICIPATE WITH OIL BEING WHERE IT'S AT AND GAS PRICES BEING WHERE THEY'RE AT, WE ANTICIPATE THEM SETTLING AT ABOUT THE $3 MARK IN THIS BUDGET, AND WE'RE STARTING TO TREND BACK THAT WAY. SO, AND JUST THE REASON I ASK IS I WOULD READ AN ARTICLE AND THERE A SHERIFF DEPARTMENT SOMEWHERE OR TEXAS, OR SOMEWHERE THAT, UH, LIKE IN JUNE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE ALREADY 20% OVER THE PROJECTED BUDGET FOR THE YEAR VIEW. SO I TALKED TO MARK ISRAEL, SIN, WHO'S THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. WE, UH, WE WERE AT TC AMA, UH, AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY CONVERTED THEIR ENTIRE NON-ESSENTIAL CIVILIAN FLEET TO ELECTRIC AND SEEN A 64% REDUCTION IN FUEL AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. SO, UH, THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR NOW THEY HAVE ABUNDANT CHARGING STATIONS WERE NOT EQUIPPED INFRASTRUCTURE WISE TO HANDLE THAT YET. BUT, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. THE OTHER THING I NOTICED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU SAW, BUT I GUESS HAYES COUNTY HAS GONE THROUGH THE TESLA PATROL UNITS. YEAH. THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES THAT ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT THE ELECTRIC TYPE THING. I'VE, I'LL BE HONEST. I JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO, I, I, THIS PROBABLY SOUNDS BAD. I HOPE TO BE RETIRED ONCE THAT'S ACTUALLY COMES IN OR DRIVE A GOLF COURSE FOR, I WILL TELL YOU FOR US, UM, YEARS AGO AT A PREVIOUS DEPARTMENT, WHEN COST WENT UP LIKE THIS, THEY ACTUALLY GROUNDED THEIR OFFICERS. AND BASICALLY YOU WERE AT THE PD UNTIL YOU, UM, GOT A CALL AND I'LL CUT THE BUDGET AND OTHER PLACES TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO PATROL, WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEN AROUND TOWN. WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN SAY TO SOME POLICE BUSINESS AS USUAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT IF WE HAVE TO CUT IN OTHER PLACES, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STILL MOBILE AND MOVING AROUND. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT MAYBE MOUNTAINS OF PEOPLE, BUT A HORSE FEEDS TWICE. WHAT IT WAS, EVERYTHING IS WE ALREADY CAN'T GET YOU GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH POWER THIS SUMMER. SO I'M SURE A CARD WILL HELP. AND ARE THEY AS, ARE THEY AS POWERFUL AS A GAS VEHICLE? BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS HEARD THEY'RE NOT, NO, NO. IT DEPENDS ON THE MOTORS YOU GET WITH THEM. BUT I KNOW THAT THE TESLA CAN GO FROM ZERO TO 60 IN 1.2 SECONDS. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT ACTUALLY FASTER AND MORE POWERFUL THAN YOUR STANDARD GAS VEHICLE. YEAH. I, I CA I CAN'T SEE SOME OF MY OFFICERS CRAMMING THEMSELVES INTO A TESLA. I HAVE MADE THE CONVERTIBLE WELL, JAKE, WE APPRECIATE WHAT TO DO. AND IT'S FACT THAT EVER DEPARTMENT HERE, AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AT OTHER PLACES LIKE KLUTE DOES MORE WITH LESS THAN ANYBODY OUT BURGERS YOU AND GET THEM OUT OF ORDER. AND WE'LL NEVER GET THEM BACK. IT'S A NIKKI, IT'S 4 0 9. [01:10:06] I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T GET SOME BRAIN HERE, BUT IT AIN'T ENOUGH. I'M TELLING ME NO, HANG IT FOR THAT. AND THEN Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, ELECTRICAL VEHICLES AND AIRLINE. WE PRAY THEY DON'T CATCH ON FIRE BECAUSE THERE AIN'T ENOUGH WATER AND THEY'RE BEHIND TO PUT THEM OUT. YEAH. WE NEED THAT LAND. WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH ALL THE BATTERIES TO, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THEN YOU GOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT BECAME BATTERIES. IT'S 1 49. YES. YES. MA'AM SO LOOKING AT THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, A LOT OF COSTS OF HEALTH. WOW. I HAVE, THERE WE GO. UH, LOOKING AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COSTS FOR THE COMING YEAR. A LOT OF THE COSTS HAVE HELD THE SAME, UH, CARRIED THROUGH, UH, AS ALWAYS, THERE IS A, THERE'S ALWAYS MORE NEED THAN, UH, THAN THE ABILITY. AND IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE MINER TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT GAS, WELL IN GREECE, WE HAVE REFLECTED A PRETTY HEALTHY INCREASE THERE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT DETAIL IN JUST A SECOND. I'LL LET CHIEF TALK ABOUT THAT DETAIL. AND JUST ONE SECOND, UH, ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE YEAR, ONE OF THE, UH, THE BIG ASK AND MIKE, UH, IS VERY CONCERNED AND I'LL LET HIM KIND OF TALK ABOUT HIS CONCERNS RELATED TO THE VERTICAL GROWTH AND CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'RE SEEING. UH, AND OUR ABILITY TO HANDLE THAT, UH, HIS BIG ASS THIS YEAR WAS A PLATFORM TRUCK, UM, WHICH IS A VERY SIZABLE INVESTMENT, UH, SIGNIFICANT SIX DIGITS. AND SO, UH, WE WERE HAVE DECIDED TO HOLD OFF ON SETTING A BOND OR TRYING TO GO OUT FOR BONDING FOR A PLATFORM TRIAL, BUT WE THINK WE FOUND A SUITABLE SOLUTION. AND I'LL LET HIM TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. AND WE'RE, AT THIS POINT, I'M TRYING TO, UH, STRONG ARM, MY COLLEAGUE IN ANOTHER CITY, UH, OVER A P OVER A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, BUT I'LL LET CHIEF KIND OF TAKE IT AWAY FROM THERE AND TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES IN HIS BUDGET THIS YEAR. AS A CJ IS IDENTIFIED IN OHIO. I AM CONCERNED IN THEIR LINE AND WELL, THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT IS CONCERNED IN OHIO, ASKED FOR IT. WE'RE PROUD TO ENTER BEHIND, TO HAVE THE GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY, BUT WITH THE, UH, THE ASPECTS OF GROWTH, THE BUILDINGS ARE GETTING BIGGER, TALLER, AND AS FAR AS SKINNIER AND, UH, THEIR CLOSE CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER, WHERE THE INCIDENCE IN DENTAL HYGIENE OF, UH, WHAT'S YOUR THREE STORY, UH, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ARE GOING ON THERE, AND THEY'RE THE MINIMUM OF THE OFFSET ONTO IT, UH, IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE BEING CONSTRUCTED. AS FAR AS YOU'VE GOT AN OPEN FRONT, UH, FLUME, AS FAR AS DARK A CHIMNEY GOING RIGHT STRAIGHT UP, BECAUSE I GOT THE OPEN CONCEPT OF HAVING WIDER AREAS AND BEING, HAVING TO HAVE VIEWS FROM MULTIPLE STORIES, UH, ONTO IT. SO THAT MAKES ALL THE HEAT GO RIGHT STRAIGHT UP TO THE TOP AND GET INTO THE, UH, ATTIC AREAS. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING AND IT'LL HANG AS FOR THE BUILDINGS BEING IN ERLANG, AS FAR AS THE ACCESS OF 30 FEET TALL AND HAVING THE OFFSET AND THE HIGH PITCH ROOFS, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE ABILITY AND EVERYTHING TO BE ABLE TO GET UP THERE AND FIGHT THE FIRES INTO THERE, OR GET AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING ONTO IT. AND THAT MEANS AERIAL COMBAT ONTO IT. I KNOW WE HAVE THE, UH, EXISTING LADDER TRUCK. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. AND IT HAS BEEN USED VERY MUCH, BUT WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE REACH. AND AS FAR AS SAFETY CONCERNS, AS FAR AS FROM JUST WORKING FROM A LADDER IS TO WORK FROM A PLATFORM. YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN DO RESCUES LONG-TERM, UH, COMBAT OR THE FIRE SUPPRESSION, ALL THAT, AND THEY'RE ALL HANGING ONTO THERE. SO THAT WE'RE, WE CAME UP WITH THEY ASPECT OF NEEDING A PLATFORM, TRUCK, LADDER TRUCK WITH, UH, AT LEAST A HUNDRED FOOT REACH, AND BECAUSE THE RADIANT HEAT AND GETTING ONTO THE OTHER BUILDINGS, PROTECTING THE, UH, RE CLOSE BOTH RESONANCE AND AS A THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE TO THOSE. UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO POINT, BUT IT'S, WITH ONE POINT WE HAD ANOTHER VEHICLE, I HAD LUMPED ALL THE OTHER VEHICLES. SO AS FAR AS LOOKING ONTO IT AND ALL THOSE THEY'RE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS AND THEY'LL HANG WITH CONSTRUCTION AND THE COST IS GROWING EACH MONTH. AND THEN BEHIND THERE'S AN INCREASE. AND SOME OF YOU ALL IN OHIO AND AS FORESTS WITHIN Y'ALL FIELDS CAN UNDERSTAND IN THEIR HAND, Y'ALL SEEN THAT TOO. AND YOU ALSO OPERATIONS. UH, SO WITH THE ASPECT ONTO THERE, AS WE WERE WORKING ON, HAS WORKED WITH A FELLOW ON CITY THAT HAD A ADVANTAGE IN ERLANG TO HAVE EXTRA MONEY AFTER THEIR BUILDING CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR NEW STATION IS TO, UH, PLACE THEIR MONEY INTO A NEW APPARATUS, [01:15:02] WHICH MADE THEM MAKE, MAKE, MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND BEHIND FOR US TO GET THEIR PLATFORM FROM THEM AND AT A VERY REDUCED, BUT THAT CAN GET US BACK, UH, GET US BY FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO THOSE. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES IN. AND THEY'RE BEHIND US FOR US GETTING THAT APPARATUS TO BE ABLE TO FIGHT THAT, TO OFFSET THAT WE HAVE MADE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS FOR THAT WE ALSO IN THEY'RE HIRING US FOR US WITH OUR, UH, CAPITAL ASPECT IS, UH, PUT IN THERE AND BEHIND FOR A CAT, A COUPLE EXTRA VEHICLES TO REPLACE OUR COMMAND UNITS SO WE CAN GET TO THE SCENES. AND AS FAR AS WITH THE SPENCE ONTO THERE, WE ARE MAKING ARRANGEMENTS AND AIRLINE WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER AND EVERYTHING DO A HAND DOWN A VEHICLE. AND AS FAR AS PLACING IN THERE JUST FOR A, ANOTHER SINGLE VEHICLE THEY'RE REPLACING AND AIRLINE VEHICLES, AND AEROHIVE, THAT ARE 2003. AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THAT RANGE BEING, UH, AND, UH, ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES WERE A HAND-ME-DOWN WHEN WE GOT THAT AND EXPEDITION, WE GOT IT FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND IT IS GOT SOME HOMEMADE STUFF ON THEIR BEHIND TO MAKE IT A NO BEHIND WHERE WE CAN EVEN GET INTO THE DOORS AND STUFF ONTO THOSE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO REPLACE THAT VEHICLE NOW, HANG WITH A, UH, GOING WITH THE, UH, TIGHTNESS OF AVAILABILITIES AND THEY'RE BEHIND FOUR TAHOES. AND, UH, FEVS WERE MORE OF A SUITABLE VEHICLE, WAS A YELLOW PICKUP AT ONE 50, PICK UP AN AIRLINE THAT WE CAN DO THAT. AND THEN PUTTING IN, IN THERE, LYING IN THAT OTHER, UH, PICKUP THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM A, UH, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IS JUST DO A WRAP ONTO IT AT A REDUCED PRICE AND MAKE US GET BY AND EVERYTHING FOR A FEW MORE YEARS. AND YOU'RE HANG ON TO THOSE. AND OF COURSE, IN OHIO, AND ONE OF THE OTHER MAJOR EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HIRING IS WHORES WITH THE EXPIRATION DATES AND MEETING ALL THE REGULATIONS IS A BUNKER GEAR AND THEY'RE TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SHOOT IT OUT AND IT'LL HANG TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GET INTO THOSE, UH, THE FIRE APPARATUS AND PROTECT THOSE. AND THEY WOULD PUT SOME, UH, RESCUE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE ONTO IT. WE HAVE AN AEROHIVE AND ALSO NARROW HIGH AND ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN OHIO. AND AS FAR AS, UH, AN, A SENSITIVE ASPECT OF, UH, ONTO OUR PENSION, UH, IT'S TO GET A LITTLE EXTRA PERCENT ONTO THOSE, WELL, WE CAN MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND THEY'RE BEHIND FOR RECRUITING AND A LONG TIVITY AND EVERYTHING, AND KEEPING OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN THE CITY AT A VOLUNTEER ASPECT AND NOT HAVE A MAJOR, UH, COST EXPENSE IN THERE, BEHIND WITH A SALARY AND POLICE. SO WE'RE DOING TWO THERE. HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW? AND THEY'RE BEHIND, WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE LOST, UH, TWO AND WE'RE AT, UH, 19 RIGHT NOW. AND THOSE ARE ACTIVE, ACTIVE GUYS. YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF THAT IS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR MANAGEMENT, OR I KNOW THERE'S A LIKE SUPERVISORS, SUPERVISOR, YOU GOT THAT'LL GRAB A WHOLE, OH, WELL, YEAH, EVERYONE GRABS A HOSE AND L HAIN AS FAR AS IN AN APARTMENT HIGH. AND AS FAR AS ONTO THERE IS THAT'S THE ABILITY ONTO IT. BUT, UH, AS FAR AS OUT OF THAT, NOW I WOULD, THEIR ABILITY. WE PROBABLY HAVE A 60 TO 70% NEURO HIND THAT WOULD, UH, OUT OF THOSE 19 IN OUR LANE, THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY ONTO THE SCENE OF IT. AND THEN THE OTHER PERCENT NEURAL LANG WOULD BE, UH, DIRECTING, UH, DIRECTIONS, NEVER BEHIND HOW TO COMBAT THEIR, THAT SITUATION. UH, AS OF JUST THE OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT, WASN'T BEHIND. I HAD TO GRAB THE HOLES AND SHOOT OUT AND STUFF ONTO THERE. SO BILITY, AND ERLANG NO MATTER WHAT RANK YOU ARE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, AS FAR AS A VOLUNTEER, YOU'RE GOING TO BE, IF YOU HAVE THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY AND THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE NEED EVERY ONE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS KNOW, HEY, IT SHOULD BE IN THE ASPECT OF DOING IT. NOW, THERE IS SOME FIREFIGHTERS IN OHIO THAT ARE THE ABILITY TO NEVER HANG UP THEIR WELLBEING THAT WE KEEP OUT FROM GETTING INTERNAL ACTIVE. NO, I LEFT IT THERE AND HOPING TO GET OVER THOSE, MAYBE YOU HAVE, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN POINT AND TRADING TO BE ABLE TO GO IN. NOT INTO THAT FRAME LEVEL YET. [01:20:01] THEY CAN'T GO IN AND FIGHT THE FIRE, BUT THEY STAND OUTSIDE. NOW WE'LL HAVE AN, A, UH, THE VERY RAPID ASPECT. AND I AM GETTING ALL OUR PEOPLE NOW HANG AS FAR AS ON TRAIN. UH, WE'RE THE ONES IN AIRLINES ARE UNQUALIFIED, IT'S MYSELF, AND A COUPLE OTHER ONES IN THERE, OHIO. AND EVEN WITH THE WORKING OF THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE WITH THEIR, UH, INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE, WE'RE ABLE TO GO IN AND THEIR LANE. AND AS FAR AS DO MORE OF A RAPID TRAINING THAN WE DID IN THE PAST, UH, GETTING THE FIREFIGHTERS IN NARROW, HANG UP TO THEIR LEVELS OF BEING FIREFIGHTER ONE AND FIREFIGHTER TWO CERTIFICATION. AND AS FAR AS MEETING THE NEEDS OF WHAT THEY CALL THE, UH, CERTIFICATION AIRLINE FOR THE, UH, CAREER FIREFIGHTERS WE HAVE BEEN DOING, WE'RE MATCHING THAT AT SUMMIT AND WE'RE HAVING OUR FIREFIGHTERS BEING TESTED OUT ONTO THOSE, UH, WE, AND THAT'S THE WAY WE DID ASK FOR US, KEEP OUR BUDGET NOW, HANGING THAT LINE AND NO HYPER CRANEY, BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING MANDATED THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE TRAINING CR AND, UH, AS FAR AS CONTINUED TRAINING ON, ON NEW FIREFIGHTERS, WE HAVE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND CAROLINE WITH OUR FELLOW, FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, UH, WE'RE UPDATING AND THERE'LL HANG OUR FAR-FIELD IN THE, UH, ANGLETON AND IT MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTABLE. AND, UH, THAT WE CAN GET THAT TRAINING RIGHT HERE IN, UH, LOCAL IN THE COUNTY. THERE IS SOME TRAINING AND AIRLINE THAT WE HAVE TO GO OUT, SUCH A T A AND M AND OTHER PARTS IN THEIR BEHIND TO GET THOSE REQUIRED CERS AND, UH, CERTIFICATIONS TO IT. SO AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE ASPECT OF AIRLINE, AS FAR AS ON THE CRI, UH, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE INCREASE ON THE PATRON AND WOULD THAT HELPING THE CRAP WE JUST ATTRACT, AND THEY WILL HANG IT'S WORTH KEEPING THE, LOSING THE TWO, AND THEN COMING BACK IN AND THAT'LL HANG, WE JUST BROUGHT IN ANOTHER VOLUNTEER ON TO IT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ASPECT AND THAT'LL HANG UP. WELL, ONE OF OUR LONG-TERM FIREFIGHTERS HAS SHOWN THE, UH, SANSA HE'S GOING TO RETIRE, AND THEY WERE HANGING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. SO WE ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO RECRUIT, AND THEY'RE BEHIND SOME OF THE YOUNGER CITIZENS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND EVEN AS FAR AS, UH, TALKING IN OHIO HAS HOARDS WITHIN OUR BYLAWS ASPECTS IS PEOPLE THAT MAY WORK HERE IN THE CITY AND, UH, OR A MEMBER OF ANOTHER, UH, DEPARTMENT, A NEIGHBORING CITY IS TO MAKE THEM AN AGILENT, UH, OR YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN BE IN OUR DEPARTMENT UNDER CERTAIN, UH, EXPECTATIONS AND STUFF ONTO THERE, AND BE ABLE TO MAKE A FIRES AND EVERYTHING DURING THE DAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. NO, BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE THAT IN THEIR PROGRAM, WHICH ARE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE WORKING NURSES TO, UH, GAIN IN OHIO. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON BECAUSE APART TO BEING SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE'RE WAITING ON THE TRUCKS AND THEY WILL HANG THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRE-ORDERED PAID AND STUFF ON THERE ON SOME OCCASIONS AND WILL HANG AND WAITING FOR THE ADJUSTMENT ONTO IT. BUT WE KEEP ON GETTING PUSHED OUT ON DATES, BUT THEY HAVE JUST AN UPDATE ON THE YARD TANKER. THEY HAD THE BODY FOR WORK. IT'S ALREADY BEING ON TO IT. AND THEY, THEY'RE HOPING TO KNOW BEHIND, WITHIN TO GET THAT THE CHASSIS AND THEY'RE LAYING IN A VERY FEW AND THAT WE'RE HOLDING OUT AND EVERYTHING AND HOPE TO GET THAT DELIVERED IN A 23 TO THOSE AND OUR RAPID, UH, INTERVENTION VEHICLE IS BEING THE SAME ASPECT ONTO THERE. IT'S GETTING ALL THE DESIGNATED PARTS IN THEIR LANE FOR THAT. I GOT IT. PROBABLY NOT TO YOU MAINLY, IT'S PROBABLY MORE TO THE CITY, BUT, UH, YOU HAVE A FIRE HYDRANT WITH A BLACK PLASTIC BAG OVER IT. IS IT BEING, IS THAT BECAUSE THAT FIRE HYDRANT IS BAD ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED? YES. AND NOW WE WORK IN THEY'RE ALIGNED WHEN WE GET THOSE IDENTIFICATIONS IN AIRLINE, WE WORK REAL CLOSE IN ERLANG WITH JOHN'S GROUP AND THEIR ONLINE, AND FIND OUT WHERE THE OTHER HYDROGEN AIRLINES THAT ARE, ARE IN A WHILE. THEY'RE WORKING ON TO THAT ONE WHERE WE CAN TIE IN AND THEY'LL HANG AND MAKE A, A RAPID RESPONSE ONTO THOSE KNOWING WHERE ON THAT ONE BY MY HOUSE, YOUR HOUSE THAT HAS ALREADY [01:25:01] BEEN ADDRESSED, A CONTRACT WITH YOU, PUT IT IN. AND, UH, HE SHOULD BE OUT PROBABLY NEXT WEEK, PLUS THAT I JUST HAD SOMEBODY TO ASK ME. YEAH. AND I, AND THEY EXPECT TO KNOW, HEY, YESTERDAY WE HAD A, UH, A PUBLIC EVENT, YOU KNOW, HIRING US FOR US RIGHT HERE AT THE COLLEGE. NO, HANG, AS FAR AS, ONTO THERE INCLUDE, WAS THE ASPECT OF UP PROVIDING AND IT'LL HANG AND TRYING TO WATER SOME KIDS DOWN. THEY HAD A BLAST THAT THEY DID THAT NIGHT HAD, AND WE SUPPORTED, WE HAD A LITTLE HELP AND THEY'RE BEHIND FOR MOTHER NATURE TO IN OHIO, BUT EVERYTHING WORKED OUT AND THAT HYDRANT, WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT HYDROGEN IN OHIO. AND THAT HAPPENED TO BE LIKE JACKSON KLEIN. YEAH. IT'S LATE ACTUALLY JACKSON. SO EVERYONE HAS PROBLEMS ONTO THERE. AND WE HAD TO DO SOME ASPECT AND THEY BEHIND A BLOCKING IN OUR LINE AND EVERYTHING FOR OUR APPARATUS CAN BE CUT OFF AND STUFF ONTO THERE. BUT, UH, ANYTIME IN OHIO THAT WE DO COME ACROSS ANY PROBLEMS, IT'S RAPID NOTIFICATION IN OHIO TO JOHN'S GROUP, THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THAT ONE. AND THEY RESPOND RE RIGHT ON THE DOT ROBERT TALKING ABOUT THIS SUBDUED. I KNOW MOST OF THE FIRE HYDRANTS IN OUR TOWN ARE PROBABLY 50 PLUS YEARS OLD, OR THE PARKSDALE UNIVERSAL LORD THAT . AND THOSE, THOSE ARE, YEAH. I KNOW WITH THE PARKS YARDAGE, YOU HAVE UNIVERSAL. YEAH. BUT THAT'S SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WE WERE ABLE TO GET. AND ONE OF THE OTHER, AS FAR AS WITH, UH, AND, UH, STEVE KIND OF THE HEAD LIGHT ONTO THAT, ISN'T THERE A HANGING RF, ESO, UH, DATA, UH, PROGRAMMING BEHIND THAT WE OWN, THAT'S A REPORTING SYSTEM. AND THEN BEHIND THAT, WE UTILIZE THAT TO REPORT ALL OUR FIRES TO, UH, THE STATE AND AS EVEN FEDERAL ACCIDENTS. UH, SO WE'RE IN GOING IN CONJUNCTION AND EVERLINE WORKING WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE AND GETTING THAT SYSTEM INTO OUR, UH, BECAUSE OF OUR EXISTING SYSTEM, UH, THAT DEPARTMENT, UH, FIREHOUSE, IT'S GOING OUT OF THE WAY, YOU KNOW, I MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT. SO WE HAD TO CHANGE TO ESL OR THEY MERGED AND IT'LL HANG AND TAKING OVER AND REVAMPING THAT WHOLE SYSTEM TO THERE. AND THE MORE I WENT IN BEHIND THAT WE CAN GET REPORTED IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FIRES THAT MAKES IT AN AVAILABILITY IN ERLANG FOR GRANTS OF AVAILABILITIES LATER ON. AND WE ARE REACHING OUT THERE AND GOING OUT AND HIRING AND TRYING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN GET GRANTS FOR SOME, A LOT OF THIS ASPECT OF NO HANG TO COVER A FIRE CROP, COVER, UH, COMPUTER SYSTEMS OR BUNCOMBE GEAR ONTO THERE. BUT THE LINE IS LONG. WELL, WHEN Y'ALL DO A RESPOND TO A FIRE, DO Y'ALL EVER SEND LIKE A SERVICE CHARGE OR ANYTHING TO THE HOMEOWNER? CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INSURANCE POLICIES. YEAH. WE'RE HEARING THAT NOW HANGING AND WE HAVE COVERED A LITTLE BIT AND DON'T HANG US FOR REIMBURSEMENT ASPECTS ONTO THERE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT PROGRAM AND HAVE SOMEONE TO KNOW BEHIND TO BE ABLE TO DO THE DIRECT BILLING ON TO IT. NOW WE GO AFTER AN L HIGH IS FOREFRONT BILL AND THEY'RE BEHIND AND GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENDABLE ITEMS AND STUFF LIKE ON A HAZMAT CALL OR A SPECIAL CALL, UH, FOR ONE OF THE MUTUAL AID. I EXPECT YOU TO KNOW BEHIND THAT DAMAGE IN ONE OF OUR TRUCKS, UH, PUMPS, THAT'S OUT OF COMMISSION RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, PURSUE AND EVERYTHING AND TRYING TO GET REIMBURSEMENT ONTO THAT, TO COVER THE COST. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WAITING ON THEM TO FIND THE PUMP OR OTHER RESCUE UNIT. AND AS FAR AS FONDA WITH AVAILABILITY AND EVERYTHING, WHEN IT CAN GET INTO IT, NOW THIS ONE, I WENT TO THOSE AND THAT'LL HAVE A COST TO HIT. WHEN YOU SAY, TRY TO PURSUE WHAT AVENUES DO WE, I MEAN, DO WE JUST SEND SOMEONE A BILL? IS THERE SOMEONE THAT ARE TEETH INTO THAT? OR YES, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN IDENTITIES UNDERLYING SET OFF IN AEROHIVE BY, UH, IN FPA AND ESPORTS THAT YOU CAN PURSUE [01:30:01] NEURAL HIRING AS FAR AS THE, UH, RECHARGE BACK ONTO IT HAS HAZMAT IN INDUSTRIAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THOSE CAUSES AND ALL THAT. AND THAT BASKETS WHO DOES THAT NARROW HANG AS FAR AS, AND THEN WITH THE HELP WITH THE CITY WE, UH, ON ONTO GOALS, WE HAVE DONE THAT. SO TYPICALLY SPEAKING, THE, LIKE THE INSTANCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WAS A LARGE-SCALE FIRE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, WE'RE BACK CHARGING, BUT WE'RE WAITING ON THE REPLACEMENT COSTS. WE'LL SEND A DEMAND LETTER BASICALLY SAYING THIS WORK, THE COSTS THAT WE INCURRED DURING THE FIGHTING THIS FIRE THAT WAS OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF OUR TYPICAL OPERATION. WE EXPECT REIMBURSEMENT IN FULL, UM, LOCALLY, IF IT'S A CAR ACCIDENT, WE HAVE NOT BEEN FILING CLAIMS BECAUSE FRANKLY WE WEREN'T BEING PAID FOR THOSE. AND ABOUT, I WOULD SAY NINE TENTHS OF THE HOUSE ARE STRUCTURE FIRES THAT WE'VE HAD NO INSURANCE AT ALL. SO YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING JUST IF THEY DO HAVE, YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF HOME POLICIES HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICE CHARGE. I DON'T, AND ALL THEY'D HAVE TO DO IS JUST SUBMIT IT WITH THE, THEIR CLAIM TO THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY. AND IT WOULD KIND OF BE LIKE, WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS INVOICE FIRST. CAUSE WE CAME AND PUT OUT THE FIRE, GIVE IT TO YOUR INSURANCE. THEN IF THE, THEY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, THEN AT THAT POINT, JUST WIPE IT OFF THE BOOKS OR WHATEVER. BUT I MEAN, IT'S WORTH A TERM THOUSAND BUCKS. I'M GET WHITNEY, YOU KNOW, THEY ASPECT OF ELENA'S SPORTS, HOW TO PURSUE THAT AND THEY'RE HANG EVEN MORE EFFICIENT AND THEY DON'T HANG OUT. I DEFINITELY KNOW, HANG IT'S MORE THAT WE UTILIZE THAT AND THAT CAN GET RAW US IN NARROW HANG AS FAR AS REPLACEMENT IN OUR, BEHIND WHEN SUMO BOOZE OR ANY OF THAT. NOW, EVEN AT FOUR CHARGING OUT WATER AND STUFF ONTO THOSE, THE ACADEMIC, THE EXTRA WATER USING USE ONTO THOSE. UH, BUT WE HAD IN THE PAST AND THERE'LL HANG AS FAR AS SOME OF THESE OLD INDUSTRIAL OR A HAZMAT SCENE IN OHIO, I HAVE GONE BACK IN OHIO AND GOT SOME, UH, AN AS YOU SAID IN THEIR LANE, THEIR INSURANCE IN YOUR LANE COVERED IT IN THEIR ONLINE WITHOUT ANY QUESTION IN MINE. WELL, THAT'S MY POINT. SO WE'RE TAKING UP A LOT OF TIME WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION AS FAR AS IS THAT JUST, YOU COULD, I MEAN, THE DAY GETS AWAY, YOU'LL HAVE TWO HOUSE FIRES LAST MONTH. I REALLY GO BY AND TALK TO THEM PEOPLE, AND THEN IT DON'T HAPPEN. OR THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN MY OFFICE. AND, YOU KNOW, MY LIST OF THINGS TO DO IS STILL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF SOMEONE DONE THAT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU PERSONALLY WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON, WE CAN'T. YEAH. I PERSONALLY INTERACTED, HANGING AT THE TIME RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T HANG TOO, BUT I WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, GET IT INTO A MORE OFFICIAL ASPECT AND THEY'LL HANG UP DOING BILLING AND IT'S MAYBE SOMEONE MONEY FROM THE STAFF. OKAY. AND SHE LAID ON THE TABLE IF IT'S THERE, BUT NONE OF IT COMES EASY AND UTILIZE AND THEY WILL HANG, THEY, EVEN THE ASPECT OF THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IN OHIO, AS FAR AS, BECAUSE THEY'RE, IT SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF KIND OF PROGRAM SOMEWHERE THAT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF IT'S JUST TAKE FOR. YEAH. YEAH. CAUSE WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH CARS WITH INSURANCE, NO INSURANCE WHO'S GONNA PAY, WHO'S NOT GONNA PAY. AND NOBODY PAYS FOR, THEY DON'T HAVE TO. AND IF GREASY WHEEL GETS THE GRIDS, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, SO ANYWAY, THOUGHT WE'LL PASS THAT ON ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AS FAR AS WEEK, WE'VE SHOWN OUR, AS FAR AS WITH A FORK, KIND OF WHY WE'VE HAD SOME MAJOR EVENTS IN THEIR HANG IN THE COUNTY AND THE CLOSE BY AND CELL PHONES ARE THERE THAT NOT ONLY ARE ASKED FOR AS OUR CITY HAS CONTRIBUTED AND OHIO MIDWEST SIMILAR TO THE OTHER CITIES. AND THEY'RE BEHIND SUCH AS THE L AND G ASPECT, RIGHT. WE WERE CALLED OVER THERE AND EVEN BECAME A NARROW HANG A PART OF THE, UH, COMMAND SYSTEM AND ELENA'S FORUMS ONTO THERE. BUT WE HAD EVERY TANKER WITHIN THE COUNTY AND EVEN OUT OF COUNTY, THAT WAS A SMALL DISASTER COMPARED TO OH YES. VERY MUCH. NO. AND THEN OF COURSE THE, UH, IMPLEMENT, UH, LANDFILL FIRE AND SCUFFLE INTO THERE. THAT WAS ANOTHER EVENT THEN THAT BAR FOREIGN AIRLINE IS FOR, I'M NOT, JECTING TOO MUCH AND IT'LL HANG TOO, BUT THAT'S IN OUR RESPONSE AT FIT IN BETWEEN THE, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, DISPATCH ASPECT AND NOTHING THAT CAME FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, RICHWOOD IN OHIO WAS THE FIRST CALL ONTO THAT ONE. AND WE CAME IN AND ON TO THERE, BUT THAT COULD HAVE, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL UNDER, UH, CLUES DIRECTIONS AND STUFF ONTO THOSE [01:35:01] WITH THAT SAVED ME A LOT OF PAPERWORK, FIRST DISPATCH AND AIRLINE WITH RICHWOOD. BUT WE HAVE IN OUR JURISDICTION, AS FAR AS THE RESPONSE WE'VE HAD THAT MAJOR FIRE, WE'VE HAD A TRAILER FIRE AND THEN BEHIND THAT WAS RIGHT THERE ON THE FM 5.3. SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME THINGS OVER THERE RIGHT OUT IN OUR RESPONSE. AND AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THAT MORE SUPPLY OF WATER, THAT HELPS US OUT A LOT. RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS. NEVERMIND. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S NO REAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO EMS THIS YEAR. WE ARE MAKING ONE CAPITAL ASK AND I'LL KIND OF, WE'RE DOING SOME VEHICLES SWAPPING. SO, UH, YOU GET AN F-150 YES, YES. IT'S GOING TO BE SENT TO THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE. THE FIRE MARSHALL IS GOING TO SEND AN F 2 52 FIRE. AND THEN WAS THERE ONE MORE SPOT? I CAN'T REMEMBER. WE MAY HAVE ONE MORE VEHICLE SWAP, BASICALLY. WE'RE HANDLING VEHICLES, MAKING SURE WE HAVE VEHICLES IN THE RIGHT SPOT THAT ARE THE RIGHT TYPE. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT GINGER FACES IS THAT AS A OPEN BED, F-150, THERE'S NO PLACE TO STORE EQUIPMENT. SO IF SHE NEEDS TO MAKE A SCENE AS A SUPERVISOR OR COME TO BACK UP ONE OF THE UNITS, SHE'S KIND OF LEFT WITH WHATEVER SHE CAN CARRY IN A GO BAG, BUT I'LL LET HER KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL COMMAND VEHICLE. THE TRUCK WAS PURCHASED WHEN THE FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE WAS STILL PRETTY MUCH WITH EMS. AND SO IT DID GREAT FOR THAT, BUT, UM, CAN'T PUT A CARDIAC MONITOR IN THE BACK OF THAT OR, UM, ANY OF THE EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT. SO IT'S ONLY GOT 35,000 MILES ON IT. UM, IT IS NOT MARKED, SO IT WAS KIND OF PRIMED TO JUST BE PASSED ALONG TO SOMEONE WHO COULD ACTUALLY UTILIZE IT IN THE WAY IT NEEDED TO BE UTILIZED. UM, SO I THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT TO HIM WAS IF SOMEBODY ELSE COULD USE IT BETTER THAN WE COULD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. CAUSE CURRENTLY IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED. YOU DIDN'T REALLY ASK FOR ANYTHING ELSE THIS YEAR. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT WITH THIS LAST YEAR. SO WE GOT A LOT OF WHAT WE NEEDED, UM, BETWEEN YOU GUYS AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED WHEN THEY ISSUED THE GRANT MONEY LAST YEAR. SO WE PURCHASED SOME, UM, LARGE ITEMS WITH THAT MONEY. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON EQUIPMENT. THAT WAS JUST FOR THAT, UM, WITH NO EXPECTED DELIVERY DATE ON THE LARGER STRETCHER, UM, PURCHASED. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE, BUT EVENTUALLY WE WILL. UH, WE PURCHASED, UM, MORE OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEEDED THIS BUDGET YEAR. SO REALLY IT LEFT THIS NOT MUCH FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET. UM, WE DID REQUEST TO REPLACE SOME REFRIGERATORS AT THE STATION THAT WE BROUGHT WITH US FROM THE OLD STATION. HONESTLY, WE CAN'T EVEN FIND WHERE WE PURCHASE THOSE. SO WE'RE NOT TOO SURE HOW OLD THEY ARE. UM, THEY'RE AT LEAST SIX YEARS OLD. SO, UM, ONE'S ALREADY GONE OUT AND WE HAD TWO EMERGENCY OVER THE WEEKEND REPLACED ONE LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THAT, UM, THIS YEAR. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE UPPED OUR WE'VE KEPT OUR TRAINING MONEY THE SAME, BUT HE UP AT FOR US, UM, YOU GUYS DID GRACEFULLY TWO YEARS AGO. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE NOW HAVE, UM, AS OF FRIDAY, I HAVEN'T HAD TO TELL YOU, UH, WE HAD STARTED UP ANOTHER PARAMEDICS. SO WE NOW HAVE FULL FOUR, UH, PARAMEDICS THAT ARE EMPLOYED. WE, UH, SENT A LARGE NUMBER OF THEM TO ADVANCE SCHOOLS. SO WE NOW HAVE, UH, FIVE INTERMEDIATES. SO WE'VE, UH, WORKED REAL HARD OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF TO TAKE IT FROM BASIC LEVEL TRAINING TO ADVANCED. SO WE ONLY ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF ONLY BASIC LEVEL TRAINING EMPLOYEES NOW, UM, MOST ARE ADVANCED OR PARAMEDICS. SO WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF THAT. I'M PRETTY PROUD OF HIM CAUSE HE, IT WASN'T EASY GOING TO SCHOOL SINCE THE PANDEMIC. SO THESE GUYS STUCK WITH IT AND DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO. UM, WE ARE ALSO SENDING MORE TO SCHOOL FOR CPR INSTRUCTORS SO THAT WE CAN KEEP A LOT OF THE TRAINING IN-HOUSE AND PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY. CURRENTLY ONE EMPLOYEE HAS BEEN TRAINING ANYONE IN THE CITY WHO NEEDED IT, INCLUDING US, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN ANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, BUT IT'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR ONE PERSON. SO THREE MORE WILL GO TO SCHOOL NEXT [01:40:01] MONTH AND WE WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR INSTRUCTORS THAT CAN ASSIST WITH THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, UM, NOTHING ELSE HAS REALLY CHANGED. NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY ONE OF THE ONE THING THAT WE DID INCLUDE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WAS THE RENEWAL ON THE AES. SO THE EIGHTIES WE GOT WITH A GRANT, I THINK IN 2010, I WROTE THE GRANT THROUGH DOW BACK WHEN THEY USED TO HAVE THAT YEARLY, UM, COMMUNITY GRANT. AND WE PURCHASED THE AEDC FOR EACH, UM, CITY BUILDING IN THE CITY, THE LIBRARY, THE, UH, PARTS DEPARTMENT, EACH CITY, YOU KNOW, CITY HALL PD. AND THEN WE, I THINK WE PUT IN THE CHIEF CAN HELP ME. THERE'S A COUPLE IN YOUR PATROL UNITS. CORRECT? SO THAT WAS IN 2010. THEY ARE NO LONGER, UM, THEY ARE JUST OUT OF DATE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE SOON. WE DID NOT LOOK TO REPLACE THEM THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT. BUT CURRENTLY UP UNTIL THIS POINT, WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR THE, UM, MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ON IT. WE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMPANY THAT WE BOUGHT THEM FOR TO MAINTENANCE THEM. ONCE A YEAR, WE GO AND COLLECT THEM AND TAKE THEM TO THE STATION. THEY PUT NEW PADS ON THEM, CHANGE THE BATTERIES OUT, MAKE SURE THAT THEY STILL WORK. UM, WE, THAT WAS I THINK, 10,000 THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING EVERY YEAR. AND NOW I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO KIND OF DISTRIBUTE THOSE AMONGST THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THE AES. AND THEN WE WILL LOOK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO REPLACING THEM SO THAT THEY'RE UP TO DATE. THEY'RE QUITE OLD, BUT THEY STILL WORK. SO IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, ARE YOU FULLY STOPPED? I HAVE TWO OPENINGS. UH, ONE ACTUALLY, WHILE I WAS OUT ON SICK LEAVE THIS LAST WEEK, UH, WE TESTED AND I GET TO LOOK OVER HIS STUFF MONDAY, WHICH WILL LEAVE ME ONLY ONE, WHICH, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREAS REALLY GOOD ARE WE'RE LOOKING REALLY GOOD. I WOULD SAY THE, I THINK THE STATISTIC LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT, IT WAS 86% OF CERTIFIED, UH, EMERGENCY MEDICAL PROVIDERS ARE NOT IN THE FIELD. THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. SO 22, I THINK THE LAST NUMBER I ASSUME WAS 22%, 23% OF ACTUALLY CERTIFIED EMS PERSONNEL WHO IS CERTIFIED THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS OR ACTUALLY WORKING IN EMS. UM, IT'S ASTRONOMICALLY LOW. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 23 YEARS. THIS IS THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN IT. THE PANDEMIC PLAYED A PART IN IT. UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST GOT OUT, I WENT PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE THEY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY. UM, SO THERE'S NOT MUCH OF US OUT THERE AND WE'RE ALL BIDDING AND FIGHTING FOR THE SAME 23%. SO THAT'S THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS THAT'S FIGHTING FOR THAT ONE SMALL GROUP. IT'S WHY WE KIND OF TURNED INWARD AND STARTED SENDING THEM TO SCHOOL AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO RECRUIT PARAMEDICS. AND, UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER JUST TO INVEST IN THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAD, AND THAT HAS SO FAR WORKED OUT. UM, THEY, THEY WANTED IT, THEY WANTED TO ADVANCE UP. THEY LIKE WHERE THEY'RE AT. SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, AND ON THE EMPLOYEES THAT DO GO FROM BEGINNER TO INTERMEDIATE AND THEN TO ADVANCE, DO WE, IS THERE A PAY SCALE THAT GOES WITH THE HANDSHAKE AND A LOLLIPOP NOW, AND NOW THERE'S AN INCREASE IN PAY. SO YEAH, WE, WE AWARD THEM FOR THAT SCALE. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS WHEN THEY DO CON, WHEN THEY, WHEN WE PROVIDE THEM THE TRAINING OF THE FUNDS TO GO TO TRAINING, THEY SIGN A CONTRACT TO COMMIT TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF TIME WITH US. AND THEN THAT IF THEY LEAVE BEFORE THAT TERMS OVER, THERE'S A SLIDING SCALE ON WHAT THEY HAVE TO REIMBURSE US FOR THE COST OF THE TRAINING. SO ALL HAVE BEEN MORE THAN WILLING TO, IT'S A GOOD TRAIT FOR THEM AS FAR AS THEY'RE CONCERNED. SO WE WORK WITH THEIR SCHEDULE SO THEY CAN GO TO SCHOOL. UM, WE'VE HAD, UM, WE'VE HAD GREAT LUCK WITH IT SO FAR. I MEAN, WE'VE, I THINK IN THE LAST, UH, YEAR AND A HALF, THERE'S BEEN A TOTAL OF SIX, THAT ADVANCED STUFF, AND THEY'RE STILL EMPLOYED. THEY'RE STILL HERE. UM, SO IT'S WORKING OUT BETTER THAN TRYING TO FIND, UM, EMPLOYEES TO BRING IN, ESPECIALLY THIS IS A SMALL AREA. SO ANYONE WE FIND IT'S GOING TO COME FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT COMMUNITY BUY-IN WHEN YOU DO THAT. SO A LOT OF OUR GUYS, MOST OF OUR GUYS LIVE LOCAL AND AT LEAST IN MISSOURI COUNTY. SO THERE'S THAT COMMUNITY BUY-IN THAT IT MATTERS TO THEM WHETHER OR NOT THE DEPARTMENT SUCCEEDS, WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY SUCCEEDS. I THINK THAT'S IT. NOTHING ELSE. REALLY? YEAH. THEY'RE STARTING TO RUN ADS AND TELEVISION GRADES AND STUFF FOR CERTIFIED PARAMEDIC, BUT FIVE TO $10,000 BUNDLES IS THE SIGN OFF. YEP. A LOT OF THAT. AND THAT'S A LOT OF THAT'S CONTRACT WORK AND QUICK MONEY. AND SO, I MEAN, THE ODDS ARE THE HATS WE'RE FIGHTING AGAINST. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT, WE JUST CAN'T COMPETE WITH SOME OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR MONEY. THAT'S, THAT'S ROLLING AROUND, OUT THERE ON THE REALITY IS THE RIGOR THAT YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET A PARAMEDIC. NOW IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME AS GETTING AN RN ALMOST IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. SO IT TAKES THE SAME AMOUNT OF COLLEGE HOURS TO BE A PARAMEDIC AS IT DOES TO BE AN RN. AND SO, AND THE PAY IS NOT EQUIVALENT. [01:45:01] SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT TAKING THAT ROAD ANYMORE. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE FIGHTING AGAINST THAT IF TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO BE A PARAMEDIC TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO BE A NURSE WAY, BIG WAY. IT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN PAY. AND SO WE'RE JUST LOSING OUT ON THIS END OF IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. GENDER HERE. TAKE A FIVE MINUTE. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MY NEW BROTHER WE WERE ON ME, RIGHT? WHERE'S THIS? OH, I DID WANT TO LEAVE THIS PICTURE UP BECAUSE ONE OF OUR CROWNING ACHIEVEMENTS IN PUBLIC WORKS THIS YEAR IS WHAT I CALL THE CLUE CONESTOGA, BUT JOHN'S GUYS TAKE THE INITIATIVE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HANDLE THE, UH, TRYING TO HANDLE THE CHIPPING AND, UH, HAD A CONCEPT AND THEY TOOK THAT CONCEPT AND TOOK IT TO EXECUTION. AND SO NOW I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRADEMARK THAT AND TRY AND SELL IT TO OTHER CITIES. SO THAT'S REALLY COOL. YEAH, NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY NEAT, GREAT INNOVATION AND GREAT ENGINEER CITY. UH, AND THEN ON THE LEFT WAS A DURING PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, THEY HAD A, UH, INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMPETITION. UH, I WON'T SAY WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CHEATED WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO SECURE THE WATER LINE TO DEFEAT THE OPPOSING TEAM, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT JOHN FINISHED PROUDLY. UM, SO, BUT, UH, IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. UH, JOHN'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF BUILDING CAMARADERIE AND, UH, HAS A GREAT DEPARTMENT. WE ASKED, OH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MANTRA IS ALWAYS MORE WITH LESS AND THEY FIND A WAY TO SQUEEZE JUST EVERY OUTSET, EVERY OUNCE OF BLOOD OUT OF THE TURNIP THAT THEY CAN GET, UH, WITH THAT, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY OUR NEXT TO THE POLICE, OUR LARGEST DEPARTMENT LARGEST EXPENDITURE CATEGORY. UH, THEY'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON IF YOU'LL RECALL. UH, WE'VE KIND OF DONE SOME REORGANIZATION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE USED TO HAVE A SEPARATE WATER CREW AND A SEPARATE STREETS CREW WE'VE KIND OF MERGED THE TWO TOGETHER EVERYBODY'S CROSS-TRAINED AND CROSS POLLINATED, UH, TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, FINDING STAFF THAT WANT TO DO THIS IS HARD AND FINDING STAFF THAT ARE QUALIFIED THAT WANT TO DO THIS IS HARD. AND, UH, SO WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT THOSE CHALLENGES AS WE GO THROUGH. UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JOHN. HE'S GOT SOME THOUGHTS AND SOME NOTES HE'D LIKE TO MAKE, AND I WILL TELL YOU, UH, HE, HE PUT UP A HELL OF A FIGHT, UH, AS WE TRIED TO TRIM THINGS BACK. SO YOU'RE GONNA, UH, FOUR 11. I CAN'T GO BACK. YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD FROM WHERE YOU WERE JUST AT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE ALREADY FLIPPED PAGES. OH, I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW. WE WILL PAGE AN EIGHT. NEXT TIME WE MIGHT. [01:50:01] YES, I WILL DO THAT NEXT TIME. AND I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. UM, I GAVE YOU A HANDOUT THERE JUST TO SORT OF SAY BIG THINGS COME IN SMALL PACKAGES. SO IT'S ONLY TWO PAGES, BUT IT SAYS A LOT. IT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT'S SORT OF JUST A HISTORY FOLLOW-UP. AND, UH, I WENT BACK FROM 2008 AND NINE TO GIVE YOU SORT OF AN IDEA OF WHERE WE WERE THEN AND WHERE WE ARE NOW. UH, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME WE WERE, UM, THIS, YOU COULD SEE THAT FIRST PAGE THERE TALKS ABOUT FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES IN TEMPS. WE WERE AT 36 IN 2008 AND 2009. AND AS, AS TIME WENT ON, UH, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WERE REDUCED. TEMPS WERE INCREASED TO WHERE WE'RE USING MORE TAMPONS IN, IN AREAS. AND AS A BROWN, 2013, 14, IT STAYED PRETTY CONSISTENT WHERE WE HAVE 34 AND THOSE REPRESENT THE POSITIONS WHERE WE HAVE 28 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND SIX TEMPS FOR THOSE TEAMS WORK IN THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT. AND THE, FOR 13 YEARS, THOSE FOUR TEAMS RIDE THE BACK OF THE TRUCKS, THE GARBAGE TRUCKS, YOU SEE THOSE IN THE BACK OF THE ONES, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE, THE WORK THAT NOBODY ELSE REALLY WANTS TO DO. UH, IT'S WORK THAT'S CRITICAL. AND, AND TO GET THE TRASH PICKED UP, UM, A YOU MOVE ON DOWN AND THE OTHER TWO TEMPS ARE IN THE FOUR 11 DEPARTMENT AND THOSE TEAMS WORK ON THE MOWING CREW. WE HAVE ONE MORE IN CREW THAT COVERS THE ENTIRE CITY OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT CREW THAT DOES WORK AS WELL. UH, LOOKING DOWN AT 2022 AND 23. AND THIS IS WHERE WE WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL. WHEN WE GET INTO THE BUDGET, UH, YOU SEE WHERE IT'S REDUCED TO 33. IT'S ACTUALLY THAT THAT COULD BE REPRESENTED AS 32, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN TOA CJ, WE, IN PREPARATION OF THE BUDGET, WE HAD AN OPEN POSITION IN FOUR 13, SO THAT THAT POSITION CAN STILL BE FILLED. UH, AFTER THIS WORK WAS PREPARED AND EVERYTHING, WE HAD A POSITION AT FOUR 11 THAT BECAME VACANT AND EMPLOYEE LEFT US TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY UP NORTH. AND SO THAT POSITION WILL NOT BE FILLED AS, AS INDICATED UNTIL MARCH OF NEXT YEAR AT THERE, UH, AT THE EARLIEST, UM, AS YOU GET INTO THE FOUR 13, YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE TEMP HANDS WE WOULD REDUCE THE TEMP PANS AND FOUR, 13 FROM FOUR TO THREE. UH, HE ASKS FOR AS I THINK IT'S THE WAY HE SAID IT WAS AN ARM TWIST HERE, AND I WAS ABLE TO GET ONE OF THOSE BACK IN THERE. WE HAVE THREE TEMPS IN THAT POSITION. AND THEN WE'RE KEEPING ONE OF THE TEMPS IN THE FOUR 11 DEPARTMENT FOR THE MOWING CREW, UH, IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE OPEN POSITION THAT WE COULD FILL AT THIS TIME. WE WOULD HOLD OFF AND KEEP THE TEMP PAN TO WHERE WE HAVE FOUR TEMPS IN OFFSET AND HAVE THAT TO WHERE WE KEEP THE FOUR TEMPS THAT COULD RIDE THE BACK OF THE TRUCKS. UH, WOULD THAT BE A SET? I'LL GO INTO THE CHALLENGES IN THE MIDDLE BIT. WHY, WHY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. THE NEXT PAGE YOU SEE THERE SORT OF GIVES YOU A HISTORY OF WATER CONNECTIONS. UM, THERE'S WATER CONNECTIONS ARE WHAT'S CONSIDERED, UH, CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY. IT'S A BREAKDOWN OF TWO THINGS. IT'S THE NUMBER OF METERS YOU HAVE IN THE CITY PLUS THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU HAVE IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES. THIS IS THE ADDITION OF BOTH OF THOSE, THE SUM OF BOTH OF THEM. SO THE FIRST COLUMN THERE YOU SEE AS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY THAT REPRESENTS THIS, THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILIES THAT HAVE MAJORS AT THE HOUSE, THE MULTIFAMILY IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE APARTMENTS. WE DON'T HAVE METERS AT EACH UNIT. WE HAVE ONE MASTER METER, BUT IN ORDER TO COUNT FOR OUR CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY, WE HAVE TO COUNT EACH UNIT AS A CONNECTION. SO IT'S BROKEN OUT INTO THIS. SO WHERE YOU SEE THE BOTTOM LINE, THEIR TOTAL NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS IS 5,059. THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF, OF, UH, METERS PLUS THE UNITS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE. AND USUALLY THE MULTI-FAMILY IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE UNITS. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, OVER THE YEARS FROM 2012 TO 2021, WE'VE GONE FROM 5,059 TO 54 31, UH, DISRUPTIVE ALMOST IN A 10% INCREASE OVERALL IN OUR CUSTOMER COUNT WITHIN THE CITY THAT ATTRIBUTED A LOT TO NEW HOMES, NEW BUILDING, EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, THAT FITS 4 31 IS A CRITICAL FIGURE GOING FORWARD. BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THE 0.6 GALLONS PER MINUTE, YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO EVERY CUSTOMER, UH, 55 50 AROUND THERE IS THAT BREAKING POINT WHERE WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THE 0.6 GALLONS PER MINUTE BECOMES AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE THEN HIT THAT PART TO WHERE, WHAT WE PURCHASE AND WHAT WE CAN PRODUCE WATER TO PUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM. UH, NOW WHEN I SAY THAT IT'S, UH, WHEN THEY CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH BWA, WHICH FORTUNATELY HERE RECENTLY, WE JUST INCREASED OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM FROM 1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY TO 1.5 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WITH THE RESERVE OF 500,000. UH, THAT [01:55:01] IN ADDITION, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO PRODUCE INTO OUR SYSTEM IS FROM THE WHALES THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE FOUR WELLS, TWO OF THOSE WELLS, WHICH CAN PRODUCE UP TO 500 GALLONS PER MINUTE. AND THE OTHER TWO ARE RANGING ANYWHERE FROM THREE 20 TO 360 GALLONS PER MINUTE. NOW, WHEN YOU GET TO TAKE, WE WERE ABLE TO DO AN EXCEPTION BACK IN, I WANT TO SAY AROUND 14, 13, OR 14 WITH TCQ, BECAUSE BWA CAN ACTUALLY PUT IN OUR TANK UP TO 2.5 MILLION GALLONS INTO OUR TANK A DAY, THAT'S ABOUT THE MAX. THEY CAN PROVIDE US. SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE OF 0.6, TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THIS BY IF THEY CAN PROVIDE US 2.5 IN TAKING IN WHAT OUR WELLS COULD DO. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE EXCEPTION INTO THAT, TO WHERE WE CAN STAY, WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT ONCE WE HIT THE 55 50 MARK, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN INCREASE OUR WATER SUPPLY. IT'S UH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GALLONS PER MINUTE IS OUR CONTRACT IS ALREADY AT THE MAX, YOU KNOW, IS, IS 2 MILLION. IF YOU TAKE THE 1.5 PLUS THE 500 AND RESERVE, UH, T 2.5. SO THERE'S ANOTHER 500,000. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK SERIOUSLY OVER THE NEXT, PROBABLY COUPLE OF YEARS AT HOW WE CAN INCREASE OUR PRODUCTION OF WATER. AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE LINES OF A WHALE OR INTO A DAIRY WHERE WE WOULD TAKE MORE WATER, SOMEHOW INCREASE OUR CONTRACT. BECAUSE ONCE WE HIT THAT 55 50 MARK, THE 0.6 GALLONS PER MINUTE WILL BE, WE WILL EXCEED IT. THEN IT'S NOT THAT WE I'M SORRY. CAN I JUMP IN? AND I WOULD, I WOULD KNOW THAT. SO THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT ALSO IS, IS AS WE HIT THOSE CAPACITY BENCHMARKS, SPORTS WATER WILL MOVE IN TOWARDS THOSE CAPACITY BENCHMARKS ON WASTEWATER. AND SO JOHN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UH, EARLIER THIS SPRING, WE WERE GETTING, GETTING CLOSE TO A VERY NERVOUS POINT AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT NUMBER'S COME BACK DOWN FOR US, THANKFULLY. UH, BUT THOSE ARE TWO VERY, UH, GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, PROJECTS. ONCE WE GET TO THOSE TIPPING POINTS. NOW I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR FRIENDS AT RIDGEWOOD AND THEIR ENGINEER AT RIDGEWOOD ABOUT HOW MUCH WE WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING OUR QUARTER OF OUR PLANT BACK. AND THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO OUT ON THEIR OWN, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO DO THAT YET. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE INFORMED THEM. I'VE TOLD THEM THAT WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEED THEM TO START THINKING ABOUT THEIR OWN CAPACITY. SO, UH, LONG-TERM, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF, THEY'RE BOTH, WE'RE KIND OF IN A PARALLEL TRACK WITH THEM. THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR WASTEWATER MAT AND WATER, AND WHAT MAKE, WHAT WASTEWATER MASTER PLANNING PROCESS WE'VE JUST INITIATED OURS. AND SO WE'VE KIND OF TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TWO TEAMS ARE CROSS-POLLINATING WITH EACH OTHER AND LET THEM KNOW WE NEED TO BE ON THEIR OWN. THEY NEED TO BE ON THEIR OWN. SO LIKE HE WAS MENTIONING, UH, WE HAVE A FOUR MGD WASTEWATER PLANT, BUT ONCE YOU SEE 75% FOR WHERE THREE MONTH TIME PERIOD, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN A PROCESS OF ENGINEERING, A NEW PLAN, AND IT'S A RUNNING AVERAGE, IT'S A ROLLING AVERAGE ANNUAL AVERAGE. SO WE HAD SOME RAIN LAST YEAR, WHICH EFFECTED US TOO BROUGHT THAT AVERAGE. UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THERE WAS AN ISSUE OVER AT THE PLANT WHERE THERE WAS, UH, THE FLUID WAS NOT READING CORRECTLY, BUT WE CORRECTED THAT. BUT NOW WE, WE COME UP AGAIN IN THAT AREA TO WHERE, BECAUSE OF THE RAINS LAST YEAR, I KNEW THAT IT MAY, IF WE COULD GET TO MAY. AND THERE'S A GOOD THING ABOUT THE DROUGHT. IT WAS ABLE FOR ONCE WE HIT THIS POINT, OUR RUNNING AVERAGES THAT WERE HITTING 3.1, UH, WHICH IS OVER 75% DROP BACK DOWN RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 2.8, 2.7, UH, IS WHAT THE RUNNING AVERAGE IS. AND IT'S SOME OF THOSE RAIN DAYS COME OFF. OUR AVERAGE WILL GO BACK DOWN, WHICH WOULD KEEP US TO THAT POINT. UH, THE BOTTOM SECTION OF THAT IS THE WATER CONSUMPTION IN GOING IN, IN, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WATER CONNECTIONS. IT'S A BREAKDOWN OF THE WATER WHERE IT'S, WHERE IT'S BEING USED AT REGINALD SEEKING FAMILY USE. AND, UM, 2012 WENT FROM ONE THIRTY, A HUNDRED THIRTY 4 MILLION, 350,000 GALLONS A YEAR, 242 MILLION. NOW WE'LL SAY THAT HIGHLIGHTED COLUMN ABOVE IS HOW YOU, WE, WE, WE, UH, UH, CREDIT THESE CONNECTIONS. UM, THE CONNECTION TO AGRICULTURE YOU'LL SEE IS REALLY WHAT THAT REPRESENTS IS LIKE IRRIGATION METERS. AND THAT WOULD NOT REALLY TIE INTO A RESIDENCE, THE SAME FAMILY. SO THAT'S WHERE IT WAS SEPARATED OUT IN 2014 TO REPRESENT YOUR IRRIGATION METERS THERE THAT'S SO YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBERS, BUT THE BIG NUMBER IS THE FACT THAT YOU'LL SEE IN 2021 WHERE WE'RE, UH, OUR USAGE BASED ON THE WATER USE SURVEY IS 366,744,000 GALLONS. IT DOES INCREASE IN EACH CC BACK SOME YEARS IT HAS GONE. IT HAS GONE DOWN. WE TRY TO CONSERVE THE WATER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE DO HAVE TO FLUSH THE SYSTEMS. NOW WE'LL SAY THAT, UH, WHEN WE INCREASED OUR CONTRACT IS A GOOD THING, BECAUSE AS YOU'LL SEE IN 2021, THE INDUSTRIAL [02:00:01] CUSTOMER, WE ADDED WHICH CJ MISSIONARY WITH VASF, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE CIRCLED. ONE OF THE PLANTS THAT IS THAT 2021 IS PROBABLY A PARTIAL YEAR OF A YEAR. IT'S NOT A FULL YEAR. YOU'LL SEE A FULL YEAR AS WE GET THROUGH WITH 2022 AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING IN OF THE WATER. SO RIGHT NOW OUR RUNNING AVERAGE A DAY IS AROUND 1.4 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE AVERAGING PER DAY RIGHT NOW. SO WITH THAT INCREASE IN OUR CONTRACT TO 1.5, WE'RE NOT HITTING THAT 1.5, BUT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO IT, BUT WE'VE HAD RESERVED WHERE WE THAT'S SHIRTY THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LESS LIKELY TO BE CURTAILED. I GUESS YOU'VE SAVED. WE WERE MEETING OUR, WE'RE NOT EXCEEDING OUR CONTRACT, OUR CONTRACT, WE'RE STILL WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF IT. SO THAT'S JUST SOME TALKING POINTS. UH, AND WITH THE INCREASE 10% INCREASE IN CUSTOMERS, IT AFFECTS EVERY DEPARTMENT, UH, SANITATION AS WELL. UH, IT'S INCREASED GARBAGE, IT'S INCREASED GARBAGE PICKUP AND EVERYTHING ELSE HAVE YOUR BRUSH PICK UP. SO, UH, ONE QUICK THING, BEFORE I GO INTO THIS HERE WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES I SEE WE FACING OVER THE NEXT, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. THE QUESTION, THE FACT THAT WE ARE GETTING THAT MONEY OR WATER FOR THE INDUSTRIAL. I KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND THAT'S A GREAT THING. BUT DOES THAT COUNT AGAINST US AS FAR AS USAGE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? ISN'T IT? YES, IT DOES COUNT AGAINST THIS AS NET USAGE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS WELL? I MEAN, WE'VE ADDED 36 GALLONS, OTHER 36 MILLION, UH, MORE THAT WE HAVE TO SUPPLY. DOES THAT ADD INTO THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M ASKING IT RIGHT, BUT I DO SOMETHING. WE WERE FLUSHING DOWN THE DITCH, WHICH IS, SO THIS REPRESENTS HERE, THIS, THIS HERE IS ONLY BILLED CONSUMPTION. THIS IS NOT ACTUAL WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD PUT IN. WE CAUSE WE DO FLUSH. I MEAN, WHENEVER EACH YEAR I HAVE TO DO A WATER USE SURVEY, WHICH PART OF THAT WATER YOU SURVEY IS A BREAKDOWN OF HOW WE BUILD CUSTOMERS FOR THIS. IN ADDITION TO THAT IS WHAT WE DON'T BILL IN ADDITION TO THAT IS WHAT WE FLUSH OUR SYSTEM. SO THERE'S A WATER LOSS AUDIT THAT GOES INTO EFFECT THAT WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY THAT. SO WE, WE ACTUALLY PROBABLY FLUSHED ON THE GROUND 20 PLUS MILLION GALLONS AND THAT'S JUST BY FLUSHING EVERY MONTH BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THAT. SO I THINK, I THINK IT JEFF'S QUESTION IS, IS DOES THAT COUNT TOWARDS OUR CAPITA AT 60%? AND THE ANSWER IS YES, BECAUSE IT IS TOTAL WATER USED. I'M WONDERING WHEN WE, WHATEVER WE SLOW ORDER, WE USE WHATEVER YOU USE. THIS IS, THIS IS ONLY BILL. THAT'S THE ONLY BUILT CONSUMPTION. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WATER. THAT IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY A LOT MORE THAN THAT. YEAH. YEAH. IT INCREASES OUR CAP. YES, SIR. THAT'S THE, THAT IS THE ANSWER. BUT THAT NUMBER GOES INTO THE CALCULATION. YES. THE 1.4 MILLION I WOULD TELL YOU IS EVERYTHING. THAT'S A BILL CONSUMPTION, FLUSHING AND EVERYTHING, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THIS HERE THAT YOU SEE HERE IS ONLY WHAT'S CONSIDERED BUILT, CONSUMPTION, AND WE HUNT IN ADDITION TO THEIR, THE RIGHT CHARGE. WE CHARGE A PREMIUM FOR ADDING THAT ON TOP OF THAT TOO. SO WE'RE REVENUE NEUTRAL ON THAT SIDE OF IT. SO JUST A FEW CHALLENGES I SEE AS WE GO FORWARD. UM, LET'S SAY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS STAFFING, UH, WITH, WE HAVE IN ONE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 10 YEARS, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT I SEE THAT PROBABLY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE PROBABLY WILL BE. UH, SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL BE RETIRING WITH THAT COMES THE CHALLENGE OF FILLING THEIR POSITIONS. WE WERE CHALLENGED ROTTEN NOW FILLING SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS, BUT THE CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE HEAVIER AS IS THE FACT THAT THE CDL REQUIREMENTS, UH, IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT IN THE PAST, THEY COULD COME DOWN. IF WE WOULD HARD IN THE HEROIN AND THEY GO DOWN AND TAKE A TEST AND THEY GET TO CDL. AND TYPICALLY WE WOULD REIMBURSE THEM THE COST OF THE TEST, WHICH IS ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS NOW FOR SOMEONE IN ORDER TO GET A CDL, THEY'VE GOT TO GO TO A SEVEN DAY TRAINING CLASS, WHICH, UH, THE STATE IS WORKING WITH TEAKS ON THIS TO PUT ON THIS CLASS. IT'S A SEVEN DAY CLASS. UM, THE COST IS AROUND $2,700 FOR THE CLASS. THE EMPLOYEE HAS TO GO. THE PERSON HAS TO GO. THERE IS FOR FIVE DAYS, ONE WEEK, TWO DAYS, THE NEXT WEEK, CHANCES ARE USUALLY THEY WILL GET THEM TO THE DRIVING PART. AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY JUST HAVE TO DRIVE AND TAKE THEM AND THEY GET THEIR LICENSE, BUT YOU GOT OVERNIGHT STAY, YOU GOT MEALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AROUND $4,000 FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CDL ALREADY, WHEN YOU HIRE THEM ON, YOU'RE GOING TO SEND THEM TO DO THIS. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO WE'VE INSTITUTED KIND OF THE SAME THING WE DO FOR THE PARAMEDICS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. WHEN WE TRAIN THEM, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO COMMIT TO A TIME PERIOD WITH US, OR THEY HAVE TO PAY US BACK FROM THE TRAINING. NOW, ONE OTHER SIDE TO [02:05:01] IT IS, IS THAT WE TRY TO LOOK AT WHAT THE VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING WE'VE PURCHASED TO SEE THAT IF WE CAN, A GARBAGE TRUCKS ARE PRETTY MUCH OUT OF THE QUESTION, BUT IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR NEW VOC ON TRUCK THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A CDO IS JUST UNDER THE LIMIT. BUT, UH, IT DOES HAVE AIR BRAKES, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A CDL TO DRIVE IT. SO THERE'S NOT TOO MANY VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT THAT REQUIRE A CDL. SO I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GO TO SOMETHING LIKE DUMP TRUCKS THAT ARE SMALLER VERSIONS TRUCKS THAT DON'T REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS THE PROBLEM IS TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO EITHER COME IN AND GO, GO GET THE LICENSE OR TO HAVE THE LICENSE COMING IN. UM, THE, LIKE I SAID IS, AS FAR AS WITH, UH, EMPLOYEES RETIRING AND REPLACING THOSE POSITIONS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT, THAT I PERCEIVE COMING FORWARD, THAT WE WILL HAVE SOME RETIREMENTS COME IN PLACE. UH, THE EQUIPMENT, THE ABILITY TO REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT IN A TIMELY MANNER. AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, I KNOW Y'ALL MENTIONED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MIGHT JUST SAY, WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT. UH, WE HAVE, UH, A GARBAGE TRUCK THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR MAZDA. WE'RE HOPING IT WILL GET HERE BEFORE. IT'S SUPPOSED TO GET HERE BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET THAT BEFORE THEN, BUT WE, UH, REPAIRS TO EQUIPMENT IS ANOTHER THING THAT COSTS REPAIRS IS ENORMOUS. UM, WE HAVE LOOKED AT TRYING TO REPLACE A BUCKET TRUCK AND WE WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO WE WITH SEARCHED. I MEAN, WE'VE LITERALLY SEARCHED THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES AND THE TIMEFRAME, ONCE YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY IN THE LATE 23 OR 24 BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN LOOK AT IT, MAYBE GETTING ONE, WE DID FIND ONE, IT WAS IN FLORIDA. THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT PART OF BUYBOARD. SO THE PROCESS, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BEERS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THERE AGAIN, THAT WHETHER OR NOT THE TRUCK WOULD BE THERE BY THE TIME WE GET THERE. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL SEARCHING, UH, TO TRY TO, HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN FIND ONE TO REPLACE IT. WE'VE LOOKED AT, UH, GETTING SCISSOR LISTS, BUT, UH, YOU CAN'T FIND THEM THAT MEAN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 20, 23, 24 BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN EVEN GET ONE. AND, UH, WE DID FIND ONE THERE IN CORPORATE HISTORY AND IT WAS A USED ONE, BUT THERE WERE SAYING SOME, SOMETHING THAT SEEMED RIGHT ABOUT IT. SO WE BACKED OUT OF THE DEAL ON IT, UH, TO GET IT. SO NOW RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE PUT UP BANNERS IS STUFF WE RENT ONE, AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT TO YOU, NOT A RENTAL BECAUSE AT TIMES WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUY ONE FROM THEM. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE. AND I THINK EVERYBODY FACES THOSE WITH, UH, NOT JUST WITH EQUIPMENT, BUT WITH METER PARTS, TRANSMITTERS, METERS, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S A TIMEFRAME WE'RE WAITING ALL THIS. SO THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACED WITH, UH, WITH ALL THAT GOOD NEWS IN AUGUST, AUGUST, WE'LL JUMP INTO THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS FOUR 11, WHICH IS OUR STREETS AND DRAINERS DEPARTMENT. UM, YOU SEE PRETTY MUCH IN THERE, AS I SAY, THE BIGGEST CHANGES IN THERE, UM, ARE WITH, WE DID REDUCE THE TEMP STAFF DOWN TO ONE, AS OPPOSED TO TWO THAT IS MOSTLY ON MOWING CREW. UM, I DON'T SEE ENLIST. YOU'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE. WE DO ESTIMATE EQUIPMENT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, TRYING TO REPLACE IN THERE. YEAH, WE DO. UH, SO IN TERMS OF EQUIVALENT PLACEMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT A GENERATOR, A SPEC FOR THE SERVICE CENTER. ONE OF THE LESSONS WE LEARNED LAST YEAR WAS THAT THE GENERATOR WE HAD IN PLACE DID NOT KEEP THE FUEL PUMPS GOING. AND SO WE WANT TO KEEP, WE WANT TO AUGMENT THE GENERATING THAT WE HAVE DOWN THERE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO THAT IN THE FUTURE HANDLE A WINTER STORM. UH, WE'VE GOT A, UH, I THINK IT'S TO A VEHICLE. WE'VE GOT TWO VEHICLES IN THERE THAT THE GENERATORS IS ACTUALLY TWO GENERATORS OVER THERE, ONE AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH HANDLES THE, UH, PUMPS. BUT THAT ONE, WHEN WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH IT, THE ACTUAL GENERATOR THAT SERVICES, THE SERVICES CENTER BUILDING ITSELF IS THE ONE THAT IS IN THERE TO BE REPLACED. NOW, I GUESS, SUPPOSE THAT PROBABLY WON'T BE UNTIL AFTER THE, UH, TALKING TO JERRY AND EVERYTHING IS POWERED OFF UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR BEFORE WE'LL GET THAT UNIT. UM, THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN 14. YEAH. AND, AND SO ON FOUR 11, WE INCLUDED A, THERE'S A SKID STEER TO HELP WITH, UH, WHAT THE, UH, THAT'S BITCHES, EVERYTHING THERE AS WELL. AND THEN WE DID GO AHEAD AND THROW IN THE BUCKET TRUCK ON THE HOPES THAT WE MIGHT FIND ONE IN A PARTICIPATING COOPERATIVE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GRAB. THOSE COSTS ARE AGAIN, OFFSET. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT YOU'RE AT 48 60, THAT'S THE TRANSFER END WITH A 10% PAYBACK. UH, AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE'VE GOT TO LOOKING AT IS WE HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PROJECT COSTS RELATED TO STREETS, DRAINAGE, SIDEWALKS BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEFRAY BY MOVING THOSE TO FUND OH FIVE OR HAVING FUN TO HAVE FIVE COVER THAT COST, WHICH IS THE TRANSFER IN [02:10:01] UNDER 48 63. SO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED HIS BUDGET. THE REALITY IS, IS WE'VE MOVED SOME OF THOSE COSTS BETWEEN THOSE TWO ACCOUNTS. SO ON THIS, UH, ON THIS STREET BUDGET, IS THIS WHERE ALL THE, UH, THE STREET LININGS AND EVERYTHING IS THAT WHERE THIS IS AT, OR IS THAT THAT'S A NO FIVE AND WE CAN JUMP DOWN THERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO REAL QUICK. I MEAN, UNLESS Y'ALL HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PART OR NO, NOPE. I GET, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN JUMP DOWN THERE. WE'RE MOVING. SO THIS IS THE BUDGET FOR, UH, YOUR CAPITOL STREET PROJECTS. UH, YOU GET A PREMIUM OF BOTS, SO INCLUDED IN THAT $1.2 MILLION, HERE'S YOUR STRIPING AND LINING. WE HAD SET ASIDE MONEY AND IN THE OTHER FOUR 11 FOR THAT THIS YEAR, UH, WHEN OUR BIDS CAME BACK, THEY WERE TOO HIGH. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO SEALED BIDS. UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THAT RFP AND REQUESTS SO WE CAN GET THOSE OUT, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE FIRST, SECOND QUARTER NEXT YEAR, BEFORE THOSE GO. SO THAT'S INCLUDED THAT $1.2 MILLION FIGURE YOU SEE THERE. YEAH. WE HAVE THREE TO FOUR QUOTES, BUT THEY WERE ALL, YEAH, THEY WERE ALL TOO HIGH. AND THEN THE PROCESS OF SOLICITING THOSE BECAUSE UNDER STATE LAW, THERE'S A CERTAIN SCALE OR A CERTAIN PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, WE'VE GOT TO REDO THOSE. SO, AND THEN YOU SEE EACH YEAR WE DO TWO MILES OF ROADS WITH THE COUNTY. UH, THEY'VE CAME IN AND HAVE DONE THE TWO, I KNOW CJ MISSING OF THE HEART STREET, BUT WE ALSO FOCUSED IN ON THE AREA OVER THERE OFF OF WILSON ROAD TO TRY TO, WE HAD, UH, LAST YEAR, IF YOU'D CALL, WE HAD DONE WILSON ROAD AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS OVER THERE. SO WE'VE SORT OF FINISHED THAT AREA OUT THIS YEAR. UH, THE CORE STREET, SHARP STREET, MEYERS, ALL OF THEM. WE, WE INCLUDED THOSE INTO IT. IN ADDITION TO RALEIGH ROAD, UH, WE, WE'VE STILL GOT A SECTION TO FINISH OVER THERE, RALEIGH ROAD. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME DRAINAGE WORK THERE BEFORE WE, THEY COME IN BACK IN THERE AND FINISH THAT THE HARDEST STREET WAS ANOTHER ONE, WHICH THEY, THEY NEEDED TO DO THAT AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S ONE SPOT IN THERE THAT KEEPS SEEM TO BE POPPING UP. OKAY. SO, UH, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DROUGHT IS KIND OF EXACERBATED THE PROBLEM, BUT WHERE WE HAVE THESE HIGH DITCHES OR STEEP DITCH WALLS ALONG THE SIDE, AS IT DRIES OUT. AND IF YOU'RE WATCHING, IF YOU DRIVE ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND PAY ATTENTION, YOU'RE SEEING THOSE LINEAR CRACKS RUNNING JUST NEXT TO THE DITCH. THAT IS WHERE THE ROAD BED IS SHARING OFF AND FALLING INTO THE DITCH. AND HE WROTE ITSELF WILL SHARE OPERA FALLING UNDER THE DITCH. SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT, THOSE REALLY BAD SPOTS OF COMING IN AND PUTTING CULVERTS IN AND STABILIZED SAND, CLOSING THAT DITCH IN TO CREATE A BUFFER SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE THAT ROAD BED. BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT RILEY, THERE'S SEVERAL SECTIONS THERE AS YOU'RE COMING SOUTH, THAT IT'S JUST READY TO COME OFF INTO THE DITCH. SO THAT'S WHAT JOHN'S ALLUDING TO WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT SHORING AND REDOING. SO YEAH, WE'VE GOT THE PIPE, THE PIPE WAS, WAS ORDERED AND WE'VE GOT IT IN. AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE RALEIGH ROAD, AS WELL AS FOR THE SHANKS PROJECT, UH, BETWEEN PLANTATION AND COMMERCE WHERE WE'D BE CLOSING IN THOSE DITCHES BEFORE THE SIDEWALKS WERE PUTTING IN. SO IN OUR CREWS, WE'LL BE DOING THE ACTUAL, UH, PIPE INSTALLATION, EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE, THE CONTRACTOR WOULD BE DOING THE SIDEWALKS SO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO P AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK IF THAT'S OKAY. SO, UH, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT FUND OH FIVE, YOU SEE A SIGNIFICANT SPENDERS FOR STREET PROJECTS. UH, WE DO HAVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED AT SHANK SIM PLANTATION. WE'VE HELD OFF AND GONE BACK AND FORTH AS I'VE ARGUED WITH THE ENGINEERS ABOUT WHAT GOES ON THERE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A WARRANT ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS THAT FOR ONE HOUR, ONE HOUR OUT OF THE 24, THAT IT WOULD BE WARRANTED FOR A FULL SIGNAL, WHICH IS ABOUT $50,000. AND SO, UH, I'VE ARGUED THAT ONE HOUR, SHOULDN'T MAKE THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE. SO WE'VE ASKED FOR A RECOUNT, HOPEFULLY WE GET IT THERE. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THAT TO TRAFFIC COMMISSION AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK. UM, WE ALSO HAVE INCLUDED IN HERE, UH, MONEY TOWARDS THE, THE 5.5 UC IS REFERENCED AGAINST THE GLO HARVEY HAS MET ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN AND A PORTION THAT TO BEGIN THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK ON THE GLO HAS MET ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN AS WELL. WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN YET. UH, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF SPIT BALLING SOME IDEAS, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE WANT TO MOVE SOME OF THE WORK THAT WAY TOO, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE SIDEWALK PROJECT A YEAR TO DATE, WE DID THE BOND FOR 2.9. WE'VE STILL GOT A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE SERVE ALMOST 2.4 THAT WE CAN WORK WITH. UH, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE, WE THINK WE CAN GET DIXIE, UH, DONE THIS YEAR. WE THINK WE CAN START MAYBE THE KYLE ROAD PROJECT AND NOT AS LONG ALONG WITH THE MAIN STREET, BUT WE'RE BECAUSE OF THE AGGRESSIVE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH BELAIR AND AGS. WE'VE BEEN WAY UNDER BUDGET IN TERMS OF PROJECT COSTS, WHICH IS REALLY NICE. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HOW NICE THAT IS VERSUS WORKING WITH THE FTA CONTRACTOR [02:15:01] THAT DID THE SHANKS AND MAIN PROJECT, BUT THAT'S, I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE. I'LL KEEP MY TONGUE. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR TRANSFER TO THAT SERVICE FROM THERE, UH, MOVING INTO THE CIP FOR THE COMING YEAR. THERE WE GO. UH, AGAIN, THAT'S THE DIXIE DRIVE. WE MAY END UP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AFTER TALKING WITH AGS. UH, BUT I, EVERY DAY WHEN I TURNED OUT OR TURN ONTO DIXIE, THERE ARE FOLKS WALKING IN THE GRASS IN THE DITCH, SOMETIMES IN THE STREET. UH, THERE WAS A GUY LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS COMING IN ABOUT NINE O'CLOCK JUST ABOUT DUSK. AND HE WAS LITERALLY WALKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND THEN DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO GET ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, WHEN I FLASHED MY LIGHTS AT HIM. BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS. WE NEED TO GET THAT RECTIFIED. AND WE'LL HOPE TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF IN THE NEXT YEAR. AND THEN MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE. NOPE, NO THAT, WELL, HEY LOOK, THERE WE GO. AGAIN. THIS IS THE DRAINAGE PATTERN AND SIDEWALK. IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE CIP, WE DID IT BY YEAR. SO, UH, GREEN, UH, IS THE PIN MONEY DITCH PROJECT. THAT'LL BE TACKLED BY THE, UH, BY THE GLO HAZMAT AS WELL. THE FLAG LAKE, WHICH IS NOT ON THE MAP, BUT IT'S HANGING OFF THE SIDE OVER HERE, BUT FOLKS BEHIND ME, PURPLE IS THE TEMPLE DITCH PROJECT OR TEMPLE DRAINAGE PATTERN AREA. ORANGE IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE CALL THE, UH, THE, UH, OLD ANGLETON, BUT IT CONNECTS FROM ALL THE WAY UP THERE AT THE COLLEGE BOULEVARD, RUNS DOWN THE RAILROAD, HANDLES THE COLEMAN OR THE BRAND SUBDIVISION, WHICH I'LL SPEAK TO IN JUST A SECOND AND THEN CARRIES THAT DOWN ACROSS THE ROAD, UNDER THE HIGHWAY, UH, AND OUT TO ITS DITCH, THE DITCH FOR IT'S THE ONE THAT THEY'RE GETTING RID OF THE NUMBER. IT DOESN'T HAVE A NAME FOR SOME REASON, UH, BUT IT CARRIES OUT THAT WAY. ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO THE, IF YOU LOOKING AT THE COLOR CODE, EITHER THE YELLOW, THE BLUE, THE ORANGE, UH, ONE OF THOSE SEGMENTS TO BE WORKING ON WHAT THE NEXT YELLOW TORONTO GLO HAS BEEN FUNDS. SO, AND THEN, SO THE GREEN IS GETTING DONE NOW, CORRECT? THE GREATEST INCLUDED IN THE, SO THE GREATEST INCLUDED IN THE, UH, THE GREEN AND THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE, I LIGHT SHETTY YELLOW OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE. UH, THERE ARE FLAG, LIKE, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE MADE UP OF THE, UH, GLO HAS MET ALONG WITH AN AREA. AND WILL IT GIVE ME A POINTER? IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE MY POINTER IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE DITCHES ALONG DIXIE DRIVE. AND THEN ALSO AM I IN THE RIGHT PATH? THAT'S RIGHT ALONG DITCH A, WHICH RUNS THIS WAY AROUND MAMMOTH LAKE, AND THEN COMES BACK UP CATCHES HERE AND THEN RUNS RIGHT ACROSS THERE. SO ALL THAT SUBJECT TO IMPROVEMENT, UH, AS PART OF THE INITIAL $9.6 MILLION PACKAGE. SO UP THERE AROUND, AROUND WOULD SHORTER. I'M JUST ASKING THE, SO WHAT EXACTLY IS THE WORK? ARE THEY PUTTING PIPES IN THE GROUND OR JUST MAKING THEM, AND, UH, WE WOULD, IT WOULD BE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD BE THE CITY OF CLOOTS DRUTHERS, THAT WE ENCLOSE THOSE NICHES, WHERE WE CAN, UH, JUST FOR ROAD SHORING, BUT THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW BECAUSE THAT ACTUAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS JUST INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON. AND THEY HAVE A FIRM RELIGIOUS BELIEF THAT, THAT FOLKS WANT TO SEE THE WATER FLOWING THROUGH THE DITCHES AND OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THOSE DITCHES WILL REMAIN OPEN. THEY ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE GRADE AND WIDEN THE BASE, UH, ON THAT PORTION OF WHAT THEY CALL DIXIE DITCH, UH, THAT FEEDS INTO DITCH. AND THEN DJ WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO COME BACK DREDGE, UH, CLEAN OUT, UH, ALSO WHY THEN POSSIBLY IMPROVE THE BASE THAT'S UH, DID JAY HAS NO CONCRETE BASIN? UH, IT HAS NO FIRM FOOTING. IT'S JUST A DJ RUNS RIGHT BEHIND, UH, BEHIND LAKE BEING RIGHT UP THERE. SEE WHERE MAMMOTH LAKE IS. RIGHT. JUST LET THE VENDOR GO. SORRY. WELL, I THINK WE'RE PAST THIS. YOU BROKE IT. I DID. WHAT DID I DO? WENT TO THE WRONG MONITOR. OH, OKAY. OH YEAH, I DID. I WAS GOING TO ONCE IT, ALL THE COLOR, THE I'M JUST DOING THAT ROLLER RIGHT NOW. [02:20:06] THE LAST TIME, UH, WE HAVE A LASER POINTER. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. JUST NORTH OF IT. SO THE, THE AREA JUST NORTH OF MAMMOTH, JUST SOUTH OF, UH, THERE BETWEEN OYSTER CREEK AND MAMMOTH LAKE. YES. YEAH. IT RUNS A CREEK. SO IT RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT, UH, ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF LAKE THEN, AND THEN BACK AROUND AND CATCHES THE THERE'S A, A WEIRD THAT CATCHES IT AND CARRIES IT ACROSS TWO BOYS TO CREATE JUST SOUTH OF WHAT THE EXISTING COLLEGE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IS. UM, THE OVER HERE, DOWN HERE WHERE, UH, LIKE BESIDE THE NEW FIRE STATION AND ALL THAT, UH, IS, IS THAT PART STARTED OR IS, DID WE WORK ON THAT OR THE SIDEWALK AND THE DRAINAGE, THE DRAINAGE NOW WE'VE NOT REALLY TOUCHED THE DRAINAGE. THE THAT'S THE DARK OH, WAIT. WHAT'S THAT THING DO NO. OKAY. IT DOESN'T WORK. ALL RIGHT. NO WORRIES. THE DARK BLUE SEGMENT THERE AT THE VERY BOTTOM COMMERCE STREET, UH, MOST OF THOSE DITCHES ARE ACTUALLY IN PRETTY DECENT SHAPE. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF JOHN JAYCO AND BROCKMAN. WE DO HAVE SOME DRAIN ONGOING DRAINAGE ISSUES, UH, THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE IF YOU WANTED TO TIE IN IT, DEPENDING ON HOW FLEXIBLE THE MONEY IS WITH THE GLO. IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO THROW THAT INTO THAT $1.2 MILLION TRAUNCH. SO, UM, WE HAVEN'T, LIKE I SAID, WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING THE MONEY, UH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED A PROJECT YET. AND SO WE'LL BE LOOKING TO FINALIZE THAT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT. YEAH. AND I'M JUST SAYING, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHY I'M ASKING IS CAUSE LIKE EVERY TIME I WALKED THROUGH THROUGH THOSE AREAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S RAINING, UH, SOME OF, SOME OF THE HOUSES THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE GARAGES AND WHEN IT RAINS, UH, THE, THE BITCHES OVERFLOW, SO A LOT OF THEIR GARAGES GET LIKE AN INCH OR TWO OF WATER INSIDE OF THEM. UH, I GUESS JUST CAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN WORKED ON THERE IN YEARS OR NOT, BUT I KNOW IT'S A BIG ISSUE TO THEM. SO I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP TO COUNSELORS AND EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION THAT IT'S A, THIS WAS STRAIGHT. IS IT TRUE? I'D HAVE TO GET THE EXACT STREET. YEAH. WELL I KNOW THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT AT THE VERY FAR END WHERE BROCKMAN MEETS, UM, UH, UH, YEAH, AN OUTFALL THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THERE WERE COMMERCE AND IN BROOKLYN MATE, YOU GOT AN OUTFALL GOING DOWN SHANE'S WHICH JUST GOES OUT TO THAT CANAL ACROSS THE ROAD. EVERYTHING OVER THERE SHOULD FLOW THAT DIRECTION FROM ONCE IT GETS ON SHANKS, DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION OF SHANKS AND IN COMMERCE ACROSS, AND THEN DOWN THAT OUTFALL OUT TO THE CHANNEL. SO THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE FACE WITH ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE IS THE LACK OF RIGHT AWAY. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN GET INSIDE TO CLEAN. ONE OUT IS TO GET IN THE DEAD. YEAH. DOUBLE BIND TO DRIVE EQUIPMENT DOWN, TO DO ANY CLEANINGS. YOU GOT TO HAVE EQUIVALENT QUOTE, BOMBED UP THE ACCIDENT, GET INTO THE DITCH TO DO THE CLEANING. YEAH. AND I KNOW, I KNOW ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, LIKE, CAN WE, CAN WE GRAB AND GRAB A SHOVEL AND CLEAN IT OUT OURSELVES? BUT I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT EITHER. SO THERE IS A FINE ART TO DITCH DIGGING. AND I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T REALLY QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, WE HAD AN OPERATOR COME IN, WE'D PIGGYBACK WITH THE CITY OF PEAR LAND ON A CONTRACT TO BRING DOWN MAREN. AND THE GUYS WHO RAN THAT WERE TRUE ARTISTS, THE PROBLEM WAS, IS, UH, HE RETIRED, HE RETIRED AND THEN COVID HIT. AND I THINK, UH, ARTERIOPATHY THE THING THAT HE SAID, I JUST KNOW HE RETIRED AND THE GUY, WE, WE TRIED TO STEAL THEIR CARS. THEY HAD AN EQUIVALENT OPERATOR THAT LITERALLY COULD, I MEAN, SHAVE YOU WITH HIS BLADE. AND, UH, HE UNFORTUNATELY PASSED. SO, UH, THERE'S AN ART TO IT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD ON IS TRYING TO MAINTAIN GREAT WHEN OUR GUYS GO OUT AND DO A REPAIR OR IN THIS CASE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING TO ADD COHORT AND GET THAT IN TO MAKE SURE THAT FLOW STAYS THE SAME. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO ENCLOSING INTO PUTTING PIPE IN THE GROUND. AS YOU KNOW, IF IT'S HTP, IT'S NOT GOING TO CATCH ANYTHING, IT'S GOING TO STAY AT GRADE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE DIGITS FILLING UP OVER THE YEARS WITH SILT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO YOU'RE A VIRGO CLUED OUT OPERATOR [02:25:01] THAT WE HAVE FOR WITH THAT, WITH THAT BLUE, HUH? YEAH. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS, MORE QUESTIONS ON REDDIT. WE WILL LOOK DEFINITELY I WILL MAKE THE ENGINEERS. SO WHEREABOUTS THE, THAT SITUATION. SO I'LL GET THE EXACT STREET ADDRESS AND EVERYTHING JUST SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. LIKE WE ARE QUICK. SO ARE THE PROJECTS IN ORDER OF LIKE WHERE THERE'S THE MOST NEED OR IS IT STARTING WHERE THE BIG PROJECT GOING TO THE SMALL OR HOW DOES THAT WORK, JASON? YES. I KNOW. I'M GLAD THAT, YEAH. SO NO, THE WAY WHEN WE INITIALLY LAID THIS OUT, IT WAS ON A BASIS OF NEED. AND WHEN THE LAST TIME THAT YOU JUST HAD BEEN TOUCHED, AND SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT, OH, COME ON NOW YOU WERE WORKING JUST A SECOND AGO. AGENDA. NO, NO, NO, NO. YEAH. I GOT THAT LITTLE, IT'S GOTTA BE OPERATOR FAILURE AT THIS POINT. WHAT THE HECK? OKAY. GOTCHA. TRYING TO CATCH A FLY ON THE WALL. YEAH. WAIT A MINUTE. MIGHT BE THE ENEMY RIGHT THERE WE GO. FEEL DIVISION OF PLAINTIFF SITE. SO, UH, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT, WE'VE HAD THE ONGOING ISSUES HERE, UH, AND WE'VE HAD THIS ACTUALLY TRAINS FAIRLY WELL, BUT WE DO HAVE A STALKING ISSUE HERE AND A STACKING ISSUE HERE. SO THIS WAS YOUR 1, 2, 3, 4 IN THE PLAN. UH, WE WENT OUT TO YOUR SIX, BUT THE NICE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS WE CAN FLIP THOSE OUT, CHANGE THEM UP. IF WE NEED TO ACCELERATE ONE SECTION, WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SECTION OR MOVE TO THAT NEXT YEAR. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE, WITH THE SIDEWALK PROJECT. THERE'S A MAVERICK SIMILAR TO THIS. WE JUST HAVE COMPRESSED IT AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL AS MANY YEARS AS WE CAN GET DONE IN ONE TIME. SO, AND THEN WAIT. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, I'M READY. SO, UH, THE BIG PROJECT AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO THIS NEXT YEAR, UH, THESE STREETS ARE ON OLD ANGLETON. UH, WE GOT, THIS IS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE THE CDBG FINANCING OR WATER MONEY TO REDO THE WATER LINES IN THERE. AND IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING FOUR INCH AC IN SOME PLACES, SOME PLACES AT SIX, EIGHT AC WITH A SIX INCH PVC WATER LINE. UM, AND THEN FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION, NONE OF THESE STREETS, WELL, NO ONE OF THESE STREETS RIGHT NOW, NONE OF THESE STREETS WHEN NO, ACTUALLY NO, IT DOESN'T GET SYNCED BACK OVER ON CANNON. UH, NONE OF THESE STREETS HAVE A FIRE HYDRANT ON THEM. SO FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION, WE HAVE TO GO OUT TO OLD ANGLETON AND RUN A HOSE ACROSS AND HOPE THAT WE HAVE GOOD DECENT ENOUGH TRAFFIC CONTROL. AND NOBODY'S AN IDIOT AND TRIES TO GO THROUGH THERE. SO WE WILL BE ADDING FIRE HYDRANTS, INCREASING THE WATER IN THIS AREA. AND I KIND OF SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE NEVER REALLY DONE BEFORE. AND THAT IS TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY IMPROVE AND REDO THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE FOOTPRINT FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO IN THAT $1.2 MILLION YOU SEE IN FUND OH FIVE TALKING ABOUT STREETS, AND THEN IN SOME OF THE DREAD, THE NON-GMO DRAINAGE WORD, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE COME IN AND WE ACTUALLY DO A CURB TO CURB ASPHALT FOOTPRINT ON THE STREET. RIGHT NOW OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO REDO A STREET AND KEEP IT WITHIN SPEC, IT'S GOT TO BE CONCRETE OF WRENCHES. THAT'S SUPER EXPENSIVE, IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE. SO WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I'M PROPOSING AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE ENGINEERS TAKE A LOOK AT IS COULD WE DO A STANDARD WITH 25 FOOT SECTION WITH CONCRETE CURB, PUT ASPHALT IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN DO ENCLOSE THE DRAINAGE IN THERE SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THE CHRONIC PROBLEMS WHILE ALSO UPGRADING THE WATER AND GETTING THE SEWER UPGRADED AS WELL. BECAUSE WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE ARE CHRONIC ISSUES FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE ENHANCING IT. SO THIS HAS KIND OF BECOME KIND OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO THINK AS OUR MODEL FOR GOING FORWARD IN REHABBING SECTION, BY SECTION THE REST OF THE CITY. NOW IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY CAPITAL INTENSIVE FOR THIS AREA, AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CAPITAL INTENSIVE AS WE GO THROUGH THE OTHER AREAS. BUT WE HAVE SO MANY STREETS THAT ARE 12, 18, SOMETIMES MORE, SOMETIMES LESS. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE PAYMENT WITH IS GOING TO BE. UH, AND THEN YOU GET THE SHARING THAT GOES ON. I, YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT RILEY AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER SHORING WE NEED TO SMITH STREET IS STARTING TO SHOOT OFF ON SOME OF THE PARTS CEMETERY. IF YOU LOOK EVERYWHERE WE GO, WE HAVE THE SAME CHRONIC ISSUE. SO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF USE THIS MAYBE AS A MODEL TO SEE IF THAT WORKS FOR US, BOTH FROM A INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT AND A COST BASIS FOR US, WE THINK WE CAN REDUCE OUR COSTS BY DOING THAT. UH, AND THEN MAYBE EVEN IF WE CAN MAKE IT ALL WORK, [02:30:01] GET IT TO A PLACE, A PRICE POINT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AS WELL, AND THEN CONNECT IN WITH THE, WITH THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE OLD LANGUAGE. SO I THINK WE, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO REDO THE STREETS. WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA REDO THE WATER AND WE, AND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO REDO THE SEWER. I'D LIKE TO DO THE DRAINAGE AND THE SIDEWALK AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR GOAL. SO, AND THAT HAS BEEN, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE. THE ENVIRONMENTAL FOUND ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENTAL SHOULD BE COMPLETE. SO WE SHOULDN'T BE KNOWING SOMETHING PRETTY QUICK. YEAH, WE SHOULD BE READY TO ROLL ON THAT. THIS IS ONE QUICK. YES, YES. THE SECTION UP THERE THAT DITCHES CAPPED OFF BACK AND FORTH AT THE END OF HANGS. YES. HANGS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THAT COVER, WHICH USED TO RUN INTO THERE WITH RUNNING SHANKS. IT STOPPED THE WATER THAT'S COMING TO. IT IS NOW HAVING TO GO BACK UP AND IT COMES TO MAGNOLIA. MAGNOLIA IS THE ONE WHERE IT CROSSES THE CROSS. OKAY, THAT'S RIGHT. IF YOU GET A CHANCE, JUST DRIVE DOWN HAYNES STREET BY THAT LITTLE YELLOW HOUSE ON THE HAND, THE HOME AT COLBERT, THEY SUPPOSED TO COME OUT INTO THAT OPENING AREA THERE, WHICH RUNS. THEY GET BROUGHT THE TORCH SHANKS LAKE, WHICH LAKE, WHICH GOES INTO THE TEMPLE. IT ACTUALLY SUPPOSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO CATCH YOUR MAGNOLIA, COME DOWN AND GO INTO SHANKS. BUT IT NATIONALLY I DID THAT, DID THAT COME DOWN WITH THE CULVER'S IS LITERALLY COVERED. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GET THAT REDONE AND GET THAT BACK OPENED UP. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT'S CAUSED PROBLEMS FOR QUITE A WHILE. THEN MAYBE WATER IS GOING TO THE BRILLIANT, I'D RATHER TELL YOU WHY, BUT THEN I WILL JUMP BACK WHEN I GO TO FOUR 13, UH, WE CAN GO TO FOUR, 13, LET'S SAY GOT ANYTHING FOR FOUR 11. I'M SORRY TO ENTER QUESTIONS ABOUT FOUR 11 STREETS TRYING TO CIP FOR 13 SOLID WASTE. AND, UH, WHEW. THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH YEAR FOR US FROM A LOT FOR EQUIPMENT SERVICE ISSUES, FUEL COSTS, YOU NAME IT, IT'S BEEN TOUGH. AND THEN, UH, THE BULK OF THE RETIREMENT PENDING RETIREMENTS THAT JOHN WAS REFERRING TO REALLY LOOK LIKE IT MAY HAPPEN IN THIS SECTION. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE A LOT OF YEARS EXPERIENCE AND THEY'RE GREAT, BUT, UH, WE'RE I KNOW WE HAD TO WALK ONE OF THEM OFF THE LEDGE ONCE ALREADY THIS YEAR. SO, UH, THE 43RD SPORTS OR TEEN WE'RE, UM, WE'VE GOT ONE OPEN POSITION RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S THE POSITION I WAS MENTIONING A MINUTE AGO THAT AS OPPOSED TO FILLING IT RIGHT, WHICH WE COULD FILL IT BECAUSE IT WAS DONE PRIOR TO THE BUDGET BEING, IT BECAME VACANT, UH, HOLDING OFF, FILLING THAT. SO WHERE WE CAN KEEP THE TENT PAN ON THE FOURTH CHAMP PAN ON THE BACK OF THE, UH, UH, SANITATION TRUCKS, AT LEAST THROUGH MARCH OF NEXT YEAR, SEE WHERE WE STAND. UH, I THINK IT'S VITAL THAT WE HAVE THOSE FOUR TEAMS ON THE BACK THERE WITH, WITH THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN FOUR 13, RIGHT NOW IT'S HARD TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT BACK INTO THE BACK OF THAT TRUCK WITHOUT TAKING A CHANCE ON SOMETHING HAPPENING TO THEM. SO, UH, WE HAVE, UH, MOVED ATTEMPT FROM THE 11 OVER THERE TO HELP OUT AS WELL. BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VITAL THAT WE, WE AT LEAST MAINTAIN THOSE FOUR AND A BIKE. SO HE'S NOW ME TO BE ABLE TO JUST NOT FEEL THE ONE THAT WE HAVE OPEN RIGHT NOW. AND, AND THAT WOULD BE A DRIVER IN THE BRUSH CREW, WHICH FORTUNATELY WITH, IF, IF THE PROJECT WITH THE HEAVY BRUSH GOES THROUGH, LIKE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, UH, WE MAINTAIN IT. WE DO HAVE, UH, PERSON IN THE CREW LEADER IN FOUR 11 CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE ONE. THE FLATBEDS THAT HELPS OUT IN THAT APARTMENT, SHOULD WE GET BACKLOG IN THE ZONES WHERE HE DOES WORK OVER THERE ON FRIDAYS, ON HIS W SINCE THAT THE BARBERS FOR ELEVEN'S FOURTEENS, HE WOULD COME IN ON FRIDAY AND WORK TO HELP OUT WITH THE BRUSH CREW IF THEY, IF THEY'RE BEHIND. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT AND EVERYTHING. SO FOUR 13 THOUGH, IS, UH, EQUIPMENT, UH, BIGGEST BULK. I THINK THAT WE SEE ARE CHALLENGES. THERE ARE WITH THE GARBAGE TRUCKS, CONSTANT REPAIRS ON THEM. UH, IF IT'S NOT THE ARMS ON THE SIDE OF IT, IT'S THE CYLINDERS ON THE BACK. SO, BUT UNLESS YOU GOT SOME QUESTIONS IN FOUR 13, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WE'VE REQUESTED IN THERE. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE GUY THAT WORKS TO GRAPPLE [02:35:02] ALEX, IS HE, IS HE LICENSED TO DRIVE THE TRUCK OVER? YES, HE IS LICENSED TO DRIVE A TRUCK AND HE WILL, AT TIMES WHENEVER WE ARE CHARLOTTE SIDE LOADERS, UH, SAY, IF ARE THE TWO DRIVERS, EITHER ONE OF THEM IS OUT ON VACATION OR HE WILL DRAW THAT SIDE LOADER. SO HE'S CAPABLE OF DRIVING. YES. UH, HE, HE SITS UP THERE CAUSE THEY'LL MOVE FROM ONE SHOT TO ANOTHER. YOU HAVE A DRIVER THAT DRIVES HIM AND START WEARING A HELMET. YEAH, HE'S GOT A CHROME OR NOTHING. HE'S GOT A WHITE ONE ALSO. SO, UH, BUT HE S HE, HE CAN DRIVE. HE JUST, HE STAYS UP THERE. THEY MOVED FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER, NOT SO MUCH CYLINDERS. WHO DO YOU USE IT FOR CYLINDERS? I WANT TO SAY HE GOES TO PERFORMANCE OR HOW EUSTON IS WHERE HE JUST BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, YOU KNOW, IF FORMERS CAN'T FIX IT, IT ENDS UP OVER AT HOLLAND HOUSTON, AND WE GOT TO GET IT THERE. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE A KNOW IF WE'VE HAD TO PICK THEM UP OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, BUT MOST OF THOSE WERE TRANSPORTED UP THERE TO THEM. I HAD TO COME INTO THE STORE, THEY CAN PICK THEM UP, GET YOU A CAR. YOU MIGHT MAKE ME FOR 14. UH, THAT'S THE FLATE, WHICH, UH, I THINK THE PLATE AND SERVICE CENTER FLEET AND SERVICE CENTER, WHICH ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT THREE MECHANICS OUT THERE. PLUS JOHN, WHO IS THE SUPERVISOR. HE, HE COVERS FLEET AND SANITATION. UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST AREA THERE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS ADDING A BUILDING THERE TO WHERE WE ARE STRAPPED FOR SPACE. I MEAN, OVER THE PAST MANY YEARS OF WHENEVER EVERYTHING WAS MOVED FROM MOCKINGBIRD WATER PLANT TO THIS FACILITY HERE, WE'VE JUST, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR SPACE THERE'S LIMITED. UH, WE DID PUT A WAREHOUSE IN THERE AND TAKE OUT THE LITTLE HOUSE THAT WAS THERE. AND THAT WE'RE ELSE IS, IS ACTUALLY TO THE POINT NOW WHERE IT'S AS FULL. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE THERE. WE HAVE SOME ROOM IN THE, IN THE FLEET SHOP WHERE WE'VE BEEN, UH, ORGANIZED AND THINGS. THIS OTHER ROOM WOULD BE ROOM FOR STORAGE AND MAPS AND, AND, UH, PARTS AND EVERYTHING FOR METERS AND STUFF TO WHERE WE CAN PUT THIS OTHER BUILDING IN. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE, 49, 70, 49, 70. AND THEN THERE'S THE DEFINITIONAL. THE GENERATOR COST IS ASSIGNED THAT'S RIGHT. THE GENERATOR COST IS, IS ADDED IN THIS FOR THE SERVICE CENTER ITSELF. AND THEN THAT'S OFFSET BY THE TRANSFER FROM CONSTRUCTION OF 48 60. THE 4 25. WHEN YOU WENT TO THAT. WELL, I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT RUMINATE AND WATER FIRST, AND THEN I'LL JUMP INTO 4 25. SO, UH, AS I STATED IN THE, UH, IN THE, IN THE OPENING, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, AN INITIAL 8% ON BASE WATER BASED SEWER. UM, LIKE I SAID, THAT'LL CATCH US UP TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE PLUS A LITTLE BIT EXTRA ABOUT WHAT THE BWA RATE INCREASES, BUT BECAUSE WE TAKE SO MUCH WATER FROM BWA, WE ENDED UP WITH A NET, LIKE IF WE DID, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE'LL ACTUALLY BE SHORTING OURSELVES REVENUE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY. SO OUR, UH, OUR THOUGHT IS TO GET THE 8% AND THEN WE WILL DO A RATE STUDY. AND I KNOW THERE'LL BE A SCHEDULE COMING OUT OF THAT TO LOOK AT INCREMENTAL INCREASES. IT'S A BIG HIT, UH, 8% COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT DOES KEEP US, I KNOW THAT THE LAKE JACKSON'S GOING UP A FULL DOLLAR FROM 1350 TO 1450 ON THEIR BASE RATE. THIS KEEPS US AT ABOUT, I THINK IT RIGHT AT, FROM 13, 15 UP TO RIGHT AT JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER THE $14 MARK. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR PROPOSAL, UM, ON BOTH SIDES. AND THEN YOU CAP THE SIR, IF YOU RECALL IT, 20,000 GALLONS. SO IT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY USERS THAT QUITE FRANKLY GET THERE. SO IS THERE LIKE A, LIKE A, LIKE FROM ALL THE PRICES AND IS THERE LIKE A AVERAGE PRICE? HOW, YEAH. YEAH. UH, LET ME, I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN YOUR WORKSHEETS. HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND. AVERAGE. YEAH. THE AVERAGE PRICING, HOLD ON. I FIGURED IT OUT. THEN THEY CALL THAT SHEET YEAH. SO YOUR AVERAGE RIGHT NOW IS 74 38, AND THAT WOULD MOVE TO 80.08. WAIT, [02:40:01] HERE WE GO. 4 23 A WE WOULD HOLD THE, CONTINUE THE, UH, SALARY ALLOCATION MODEL THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WHERE WE'RE SPLITTING COSTS WITH THE CREW, OTHER, UH, LABOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FONDO ONE. UH, ALSO LOOKING AT THE, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE THE, UH, CREDIT PROGRAM FOR SENIORS. UM, AND THEN DOES THAT 4 25 TURNS INTO IT. LOOK AT THAT. I'M SORRY. I'M BAD EYES. UH, JOHN, WE'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY. SORRY. I'M STEPPING ON YOUR FEET. 4 25, UH, ESSENTIALLY AS IS MENTIONED, THE EMPLOYEES ARE CROSS-TRAINED TO WHERE THEY'LL EITHER DO WATER OR STRAIGHT WORK, WATER, SEWER STREET WORK. THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING ALL OF IT. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PERCENTAGE IS. LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'VE BROKEN IT OUT BASED ON WHAT THEY DO. WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE MORE DEDICATED, ONE, ONE AREA, BUT A LOT OF LIKE THE CREWS, THEY DO BOTH. UM, SO IT'S NOT REALLY YOU'RE CHANGING UNIFORMS. OH YEAH. I MEANT TO SAY THAT EARLIER. UH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT EVERY WAY WE CAN POSSIBLY SAVE MONEY OR GO DIFFERENT ROUTES. AND I'M SURE IF ANY OF YOU IN THE BUSINESS OR, OR IN AREAS WHERE YOU'RE DOING THINGS, YOU LOOK AT WAYS YOU CAN CUT COSTS OR ADDITIONAL COSTS. AND IT'S LIKE YOUR MEDICINE CABINETS. I MEAN, WE HAVE MEDICINE CABINET SAID AS OPPOSED TO PAYING SOMEBODY TO COME IN THERE AND FILL THEM LIKE OUR UNIFORM PEOPLE. I MEAN, YOU'LL GET A $8 MEDICATION AND YOU'RE PAYING 16 FOR THEM TO BRING IT OUT WHEN WE CAN, WE CAN FILL THOSE THINGS OURSELVES. WE'VE LOOKED AT UNIFORMS. IF SO YEARS AGO, WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR BEERS ON OUR UNIFORMS, UH, WE WENT F A, B IS G AND K WAS ONE OF THE, UH, THE BIDDER THAT ACTUALLY WON THE CONTRACT, SENT US WAS, HAD BEEN ON IT, BUT THEY DID NOT. BUT SHORTLY THEREAFTER WITH THAT, WE WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT. GANK SENT US ABOUT G OKAY. SO NOW WE HAD TO END UP DEALING WITH CINTAS. SO WE HAD TO ACCEPT THE CONTRACT. THEY HAVE WELL WITH THE CONTRACT THEY HAVE IS, IS THEY PROVIDE YOU WITH THE UNIFORMS. THE PROBLEM THERE IS, IS THAT IF YOU GET A STAIN OR LITTLE, ANYTHING ON THAT UNIFORM, YOU ENDED UP HAVING TO BUY IT. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT BACK AND UNLESS YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THE INSURANCE AND THE, BUT BY THE TIME YOU PAY FOR THE INSURANCE ON THAT, THAT YOU, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BUY THE UNIFORMS BECAUSE THE COST OF THE INSURANCE IS PROBABLY DOUBLING OR MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW. OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM WAS MONTH TO MONTH RIGHT NOW. SO WE'VE LOOKED CLOSELY AT WHAT WE WERE WE'RE SPENDING AND WHAT, WHAT THE UNIFORMS WE'VE. WE'VE HAD EMPLOYEES COME IN AND WE GET THEM UNIFORMS AND SAY, THEY, THEY LEAVE THOSE UNIFORMS THAT WE HAVE. WE GIVE THEM BACK TO THEM AND TAKE THEM BACK WHILE THEY BRING THEM BACK TO US SAY, WELL, WE CAN'T TAKE THESE BACK BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE, LITTLE STAIN. WE HAD TO WATCH THEM CLOSELY BECAUSE THEY WOULD BRING US UNIFORM WITH THE STAIN ON IT AND THEN TRY TO GET A SENTENCE. AND SO THEN THEY WOULD WANT US TO PAY FOR THE UNIFORM BEFORE WE EVEN GET THEM. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO STAINS ON THEM. SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY TURNED IN ALL THE UNIFORMS THAT WE TOOK THE UNIFORMS DOWN. CAUSE WE WERE GETTING 11 PAIR FOR EACH EMPLOYEE, 11 SHIRTS, 11, 11 PANTS. AND THEY WOULD LAUNDER THEM THE UNIFORMS. WELL, MOST MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES WASH THEIR OWN. SO WE WERE PAYING FOR OUR LAUNDRY SERVICE TO RENT OF THOSE. BUT WE WERE, A LOT OF THE PLAYERS WERE DOING THEIR OWN. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A NEED FOR US TO HAVE 11 OF THEM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE 11 PURPOSE WAS TO, THEY WOULD ALWAYS HAVE A SET TO CHANGE OUT. SO WE, WE TOOK THE BEST OF THE BEST OF UNIFORMS AND WE RETURNED ALL OF THOSE. AND SO THEY TOOK ALL OF THOSE. THERE'S A FEW THAT THEY BRING BACK. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP DOING IS WHAT WE HAVE LEFT THIS YEAR IS GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE THREE REMAINING OF THE UNIFORMS THAT WE HAVE TO GET US INTO THE NEXT YEAR. AND THEN WE'VE LOOKED INTO THE PROCESS OF, OF GOING OUT AND GIVING THE EMPLOYEES A PANTS, ALLOWANCE THAT THEY CAN BUY THEM. SO MANY PAIR OF PANTS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN DO THAT THEMSELVES. WE WILL GET THE SHIRTS OR SALES SIMILAR TO WHAT SENT US, PROVIDES US. AND THE EMPLOYEES WILL WASH THEIR OWN. WE HAVE, AND WE'LL KEEP A STASH ON HAND WHERE WE'D LIKE TO KEEP FIVE MEDIUM, FIVE SMALL, FIVE LARGE. AND THEN AS SOMEBODY COMES IN, WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH THE SHIRTS AND WE CAN BRING THEM AND WE'LL SAVE MONEY ON THAT. END OF IT. BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS ASSIGN A NEW CONTRACT FOR THREE YEARS, PAY INSURANCE ON THEM. AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING OVER $27,000 THAT YOU'D BE PAYING OUT OVER A YEAR. AND THIS WAY HERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAVE ON IT LIKE A SPECIALIZED UNIFORM OR WHETHER IT'S JUST THE COST OF THEM. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A REFLECTIVE, THEY SEE LIKE, BUT THEY'RE THE SHIT I HAD THE SAME TRAIN WRECK. WHEN YOU SENT US. I WANTED TO COMING NOW THAT I'M GETTING MY GODDAMN CAR FOR $8 A WEEK, YOU CAN, YOU CAN WASH THEM AND PICK THEM UP. WE CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT AND BUY THE SHIRTS WITH THE REFLECTIVE STUFF ON THERE. LUCKILY ONE FOR A LOT LESS, AND THEN IT'S A ONE-TIME PURCHASE. AND THEN WE CAN, WE'RE GOING TO GET IT [02:45:01] TO WHERE WE CAN PUT THE NAMES ON IT AS WE SEE FIT, UM, TO THE DEPLOYS. BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE PURCHASING, WE'RE GETTING UNIFORM FROM THEM. AND THEN IF THE EMPLOYEE LEAVES, WE'RE STUCK WITH THEM OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE HAD, IF NOT FOUR OR FIVE EMPLOYEES LEAVE AND WE'RE STUCK WITH BINARY, UNIFIERS THEY RESIZE THEM. IF YOU GET A TEAR, ONCE THEY GET THE POINT WHAT'S FADED, THEY REPLACE THEM. WELL, THERE'S THERE'S UNIT FIRST. I KNOW THERE'S UNIT FIRST THERE'S, UH, SENT US, BUT, AND I KNOW TALKING WITH SOME OTHERS, I WORKED WITH THREE OTHER PEOPLE, FOUR FUNDING, I GOT CALLED CINTAS GENIE AND THEN A G AND K GOT BOUGHT BY GET GK. WAS THAT LOCKED YET? UNIFORM. THEY HAD A GOOD SALES PITCH. I KNOW WHERE THE PLANTS OVER HERE AT FREEPORT FOR MY WIFE FIRST, THEY WERE USING SENT US. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO UNIT FIRST DEAL IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE TOWER, BUT I'M SORRY. RIGHT. IT'S MORE THAN AFFORDABLE BECAUSE MY, WITH THE PANTS WAS THE GUY THAT WERE IN THERE AND I GOT A HOLD ON. AND THEN SOME THEM DON'T EVEN WEAR THE PANTS. UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'VE GOT A BUDGET OF WHERE WE, WE, IF, IF WE DO GO BACK OUT FOR FOUR B, AS WE WERE COVERED IN THAT, IN THAT RESPECT IN THERE WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS. WE CAN DO SOME OF THIS STUFF TO WHERE WE CAN REDUCE THE CALL AS TO WHAT WE'RE SPENDING. I REALLY GOING TO GIVE IT A SHOT. AND IF IT CAN'T CAN'T WORK AND STILL LIVE HERE. SO ALSO THE 25, WHICH IS THE MOTOR SIDE OF IT IS WITH OUR METERS. UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER THERE WHERE WE STRUGGLE WITH GETTING TRANSMITTERS, METERS, PARTS, REPLACEMENT, PARTS FOR THEM. A LOT OF THAT, I KNOW AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK CLOSE AT, UH, HOW WE ADDRESS THE CHARGES FOR THOSE, UH, DAMAGES DONE BY RESIDENTS ON THE METERS, WHETHER IT'S, THAT ARE EVEN WITH LOOKING AT CLOSELY WITH OUR ORDINANCES ON, ON TAP FEES, FOR WHAT WE CHARGE FOR A WATER TAP OR SEWER TAP, UH, ARE THOSE HAVE NOT CHANGED A YEAR. WE PROBABLY NEED TO REVISIT THOSE. SO, UH, TWENTY-FIVE DEPARTMENT IS, UH, UH, APARTMENT HAS A LOT OF EXPENSES OF GOING IN AND OUT OF IT, THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD KNOW, UH, BRING COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO, UH, UNDER A CONTRACT THAT COSTS 45, 71, 45, 72. UH, THOSE ARE THE BWA CONTRACTED RATES THAT WE PAY, UH, FOR THE WATER GOING OUT. AND THEN THE, OR, AND THEN THE 1.18 IS THE, UH, WE WILL BE BRINGING YOU A RENEWED CONTRACT WITH VRA FOR FIVE YEARS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. UM, LONG-TERM MAYBE SOMEDAY WE'LL BE ABLE TO STAFF IT ON OUR OWN AND FIND OPERATORS. BUT RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO FIND A CERTIFIED OPERATOR IS LIKE TRYING TO FIND THE HINTS TOOTH. AND IT TAKES TWO YEARS NOW TO GET A C YOU HAVE TO HAVE, BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING ON YOUR B AND YOU GET IT. UH, MY TIME IS PRORATED. IT'S IT'S THREE YEARS. I WANT TO SAY WHAT 60 HOURS OF TRAINING, BUT YOU CAN ALL SAY WHAT COLLEGE HOURS, BUT BECAUSE MY TIME'S BEEN PRORATED BETWEEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR PERCENTAGE OF IT, UH I'M RIGHT AT THE POINT WHERE I CAN TEST FOR THE B NOW. UM, BUT WE, I SAID MYSELF AND WE HAVE TWO SEE OPERATORS, WHICH IS MYSELF AND LARRY, WHICH LARRY, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL THINK Y'ALL MET LARRY NUT. UH, HE USED TO WORK WITH BWA ACTUALLY. SO, UH, IN TRYING TO GET THE OTHER EMPLOYEES UP TO WHERE THEY CAN GET THE, TAKING THE TEST AND EVERYTHING WITH THAT AS WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. UM, BUT YES, WITH THE WASTEWATER PLANT, IF, IF THE LICENSE THEY OPERATE, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'LL BE AWHILE BEFORE WE COULD EVER TALK ABOUT BRINGING THAT IN HOUSE. SO WE RATHER THAN DOING A 20 YEAR RENEWAL OR BRS WERE, WE WERE OPTING FOR A FIVE. SO, UH, TO GIVE OURSELVES SOME LATITUDE THERE, AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE ERADICATED ALL OF THE LINE EXTENSIONS AND METERS AND HYDRANT. THAT'S ALL BEEN MOVED INTO FUND 1 0 5, WHICH IS THE CONSTRUCTION FUND IN FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND. AND I FORGOT TO INCLUDE THAT AS A SLIDE. SO MY APOLOGIES, BUT THE COSTS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME. I HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE ABOUT RADIO RINGLEADER, OR THEY ACTUALLY MONEY CYCLING. I THINK THAT THE THINK THE, I THINK THE, WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACES YOU NEED, I MEAN, THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS PRETTY, PRETTY NEAT BECAUSE YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND ACTUALLY SEE THINGS AND NOTIFY PEOPLE. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS IS PEOPLE NOT DAMAGING THEM BECAUSE, [02:50:02] WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THAT. ALSO WHEN WE DID THAT PROJECT, UH, I'VE DONE THAT PROJECT IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY. PART OF THE VALUE IN THE PROJECT HAS GIVEN THE CUSTOMER, THE EYE, THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THEIR USAGE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS AND TO MANIPULATE AND SEE AND REALIZE WHAT THEY'RE GETTING, WHAT BANG THEY'RE GETTING FOR THE BOAT. WE DIDN'T PURCHASE THAT COMPONENT. SO WE CAN DO THE ANALYSIS AND WE'LL DO THE RED FLAG AND THE AUTOMATED WARNING SYSTEM, BUT IT'S STILL DIANE AND RANDY GOING THROUGH AND CHECKING THAT LIST EVERY DAY TO SEE IF THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LEAK WHERE IF IT WAS AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM, THAT YOU GET AN AUTOMATED TEXT MESSAGE SAYING, HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A LEAK. YOU HAVE WATER HAS BEEN NONSTOP FOR THE LAST FIVE DAYS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH THAT, BUT THEY'VE ALSO GOT A LOT OF OTHER STUFF. SO SOME OF THE TIMES THAT FALLS THROUGH THE CRACK. AND THEN LIKE JOHN SAID, THE MODEL OF METER THAT WE WENT WITH, ISN'T EXACTLY FLUSH MOUNT. AND SO WE HAVE FOLKS THAT WILL MOW OVER THEM. WE HAVE FOLKS THAT PARKED THE CARS ON TOP OF THEM. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS SAYS, THE METER THING. SO WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR FRONT YARD, YOU HAVE A BLACK BOX, BUT IT'S DOWN IN THE GROUND, A LITTLE, THERE'S A LITTLE HOCKEY PUCK, OR IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ROUND ABOUT HOCKEY PUCKS. AND ON TOP OF IT, THAT IS YOUR RADIO READ METER. SO IT TRANSMIT A SIGNAL, TRANSMITS A SIGNAL BACK TO THE, UH, I GUESS WE'RE ON THE WATER TOWER, RIGHT. TO THE WATER. SO IT READS BACK TO THE WATER TOWER AND THEN THAT AUTOMATED, WE CAN CHECK YOUR DATA EVERY MINUTE, ACTUALLY, IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED US TO. UM, BUT A LOT OF FOLKS WILL PARK OVER. IT THEY'LL KNOW OVER IT. UH, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF INDEX SITUATIONS WHERE FOLKS HAVE INTENTIONALLY GONE AND RIPPED IT OUT AND DESTROYED IT. SO WE BACKED, CHARGED THOSE INDIVIDUALS. UH, IF IT'S REPETITIVE, WE DO MORE THAN TWO OR THREE TIMES. THE OTHER THING YOU GET A CERTAIN CORE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT BELIEVE IT'S A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY TO MONITOR, UH, THEIR INTERNET TRAFFIC. BUT YOU DO ACTUALLY. YES. UM, BUT THEY'VE READ SOMEWHERE. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE THERE IS SOME, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF, IF YOU HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE STILL HAVE CORDLESS FARMS, BUT IF YOU HAVE AN OLD SCHOOL CORDLESS PHONE, AND IF YOU HAVE A MICROWAVE THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE 1988, THE LIKELIHOOD IS YOU'RE PROBABLY BLOCKING THE SIGNAL GOING OUT FROM YOUR HOUSE. SOMEBODY POSTED THAT TO A WEBSITE SOMEWHERE, AND THEN IT WAS TAKEN AS THEY'RE BEING ABLE TO MONITOR ALL YOUR INTERNET USAGE BASED ON IT'S NOT HAPPENING, WE'RE NOT DOING IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK. SO YOU'LL HAVE FOLKS THAT WILL INTENTIONALLY GO PUT, YOU KNOW, TRY AND PUT IT CONNOR ON TOP OF HER PART, A VEHICLE OR SET OF MAGNET NEXT TO IT, AND THEN TRY AND BLOCK THE READS. SO I THINK ONE DAY LAST WEEK, WE, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, IS WHEN WE DID THIS TRANSITION FROM SPRINT TO T-MOBILE, UH, THE MOTIVE, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER FRUSTRATING STORY, BUT THE MODEM, THE SIM CARD THAT WENT INTO THE MODEM STOPPED WORKING, UH, BECAUSE T-MOBILE, DIDN'T SET THE ACCOUNT UP. RIGHT. AND I THINK WE'RE, YEAH. WE'RE BACK ON THE LINE WITH THE ASSISTANCE. IT CAME BACK ONLINE. NO, NO, NO. YEAH. BUT YOU ONLY GOT LIKE SEVEN DAYS. YEAH. YOU ONLY GOT LIKE SEVEN DAYS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE IT A SIM CARD WITH, BUT SHE'S GOT TO FACE, OKAY. THE 18TH, WE NEEDED IT DONE BY THE 18TH. SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF OBVIOUSLY REWORKING THAT SYSTEM. BUT ON A GOOD DAY, WE GET ABOUT, I THINK 90% READINGS ON A BAD DAY, IT'LL BE 72, BUT THEN THAT AGGREGATES AND WE DRAW DOWN FOR THE MONTH AND THEN THAT'S WHAT GENERATES THE BILL. SO, UH, LOOKING FORWARD AT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH MONITORING AND USAGE, UH, WE HAVE A VERY ANTIQUATED SCADA SYSTEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER, UM, AND BUILT INTO THIS, INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR IS THE INTRODUCTION OF A VT SCADA SYSTEM THAT WE WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT WE CAN SHARE THE DATA WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO LOOK AT IT. UH, BUT THAT WILL MAINTAIN, ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN CONTROL AND ALSO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EVERY SINGLE PUMP STATION AND THE, AND THE TOWER, WHICH WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE. I JUST THOUGHT FROGS LIVE DOWN IN THE METER. THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND THE BEST FROGS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT DOING RIGHT NOW, I'M WAITING ON SOME, SOME CALLS. STONE IS RIGHT NOW AT THE GROUND STORAGE FACILITY, WE HAVE FOUR BOOSTER PUMP, THREE BOOSTER PUMPS THERE, I'M SORRY, TWO, 1000 GALLON BOOSTER PUMPS. AND ONE, 2000 GALLON BOOSTER PUMP TO 2000 GALLON BOOSTER PUMP. BASICALLY WE'D NEVER USE, UH, WE USE TO 1000 GALLON PER MINUTE PUMPS FOR THE SYSTEM. WE'RE LOOKING AT REEF CONFIGURING THAT AND TAKING THE 2000 OUT AND PUTTING ANOTHER FEED IN THERE AND PUTTING TWO MORE, 1.5 OR 1000 GALLON PER MINUTE POLICY, ONE OF THE TWO TO WHERE WE HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR PUMPS THERE. BUT THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS WE HAD A PUMP SEAL GO OUT HERE THE OTHER DAY, AND WE'VE BEEN OPERATING OFF OF ONE PUMP, UH, OVER [02:55:01] THERE. NOW IT HELPS IT MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM FINE. AND IT WAS, YOU NEVER KNEW IT. UH, BUT THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE'LL TAKE THAT 2000 HOURS SINCE WE DON'T USE IT. PUT TWO MORE, LIKE I SAID, EITHER 1000 OR 1500 GALLON PER MINUTE PUMPS, IT GIVES US FOUR PUMPS TO, IF WE EVER HAVE ONE PUMP DOWN, WE HAVE THREE ALTERNATES AND NOT WHEN ONE PUMP GO DOWN, WE HAVE ONE BECAUSE THEN WE'RE WE'RE RIGHT NOW, WE PUT IN PROBABLY 95, 90 9% SURFACE WATER, OR MAY MOST OF THE TIME WHAT WE USE THE WELLS FOR RIGHT NOW, OR JUST EXERCISE THEM TO KEEP THEM IN SERVICE. THERE'S A HIGH AMMONIA CONTENT THAT, UH, IS WITHIN THE GROUNDWATER. SO WE'RE, WE'RE ELIMINATING THAT PORTION OF IT. CAUSE IT EATS YOU UP YOUR RESIDUALS AND EVERYTHING. SO WE WE'RE RUNNING MOSTLY SURFACE WATER RIGHT NOW AND NOT GROUND WATER. BUT IF WE EVER HAD TO, WE HAVE THE WELLS THERE WHERE WE CAN SWITCH THAT IN AND USE THOSE AS WELL. BUT THIS HERE WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO WHERE IF WE HAVE ONE PUMP DOWN, WE HAVE THREE BACKUPS, NOT ONE. UM, ONE OTHER ITEM I WOULD ADD TALKING ABOUT THE GROUND STORAGE TANK. LAST YEAR, WE HAD BUDGETED FOR A NEW GENERATOR. IF YOU RECALL, WE LOST THE GENERATOR DURING THE WINTER STOLEN. WE PUT ONE ON OUR ORDER. WE JUMPED THROUGH HOOPS. UH, WE WERE INFORMED BY THE PROVIDER THE OTHER DAY, UH, CAUSE THEY TOLD US IT WOULD BE APRIL OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE HAD THE NEW PUMP ON HAND AT ANY INTERIM, THE COST INCREASING HAD GONE UP BY $90,000 FOR THAT UNIT. SO, UH, WE'RE TALKING NOW WITH THEM ABOUT FINDING A DIFFERENT BRAND, SAME CAPACITY TO REPLACE THAT GENERATOR WITH. CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL, WE PURCHASED THE UNIT THAT IS AT THE SITE, THE RENTAL, BUT IT'S NOT ADEQUATE LONG TERM. UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS 400. THE ONE THAT WAS IN THERE IS ON THE IT'S IT'S THE UNIT, THE OLD UNIT, THE ONE THAT DOES NOT WORK. I MEAN, IT'S OBSOLETE. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET PARTS FOR IT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE CAME IN WITH THE ONE WE RENTED AND WE ENDED UP PURCHASING, IT, RUNS IT WHEN WE NEEDED. BUT UH, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN WOULD BE, UH, A NATURAL GAS GENER GENERATOR. SO O'CLOCK, UH, 400, 400, BUT, UH, IT'S JUST ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF ALL THE FUN WE'RE HAVING WITH TRYING TO REPLACE STUFF AND GET IT INTO THE TIMELINE. CAUSE ACCORDING TO SB THREE, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD EVERYTHING INSTALLED GENERATOR WISE ON THE WATER SYSTEM BY JUNE ONE, THE STATES ISSUED A WAIVER. UH, BUT, AND OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T WANNA THROW ANY CASH INTO THAT TO HELP OUT. SO IT'S BEEN AT AROUND COST. ANY OTHER PUBLIC WORKS QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE QUESTION. AND THIS IS CAUSE, UH, I W I WENT TO AN EVENT WHERE THERE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM OTHER CITIES, AND THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR PERSON THAT SAID THAT A CERTAIN CITY, RIGHT BESIDE US, PROBABLY TO THE LEFT OF US, CLOSER TO THE WATER, HAS THE CLEANEST WATER IN THE AREA. HOW ARE WE ABLE TO RATE THINGS LIKE THAT? OR WE ARE A SUPERIOR WATER SYSTEM. WE'VE MAINTAINED SUPERIOR WATER SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL THAT YOU CAN GET IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY GETS THEIR WATER FROM THE SAME PLACE THAT WE DO. AND IT'S AT THE SAME CLEANLINESS LEVEL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CLAIM THAT THEY JUST REACHED SUPERIOR LAST YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN WHAT? 15 TO 20 YEARS. SO I HAVEN'T. YEAH, IF YOU LOOK, AS YOU PULL IN JOHN, I'VE MADE SURE WE DISPLAY THE SIGNS, BUT JOHN, JOHN HAD TO DO A NEW BLADE, BUT YEAH, WE, WE, WE HAVE A SUPERIOR WATER SYSTEM. YEAH. WE WE'VE, WE HAVE BEEN BAD. AND THEN WE WERE REISSUED IT AGAIN LAST YEAR. WAS IT LAST YEAR OR YOUR METAL PANDEMIC WHEN WE GET, YOU'LL SEE IT MOSTLY WHEN YOU COME INTO THE CITY, MOST OF ALL OF YOUR ENTRY POINTS, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT SIGN THERE. AND IT'S A SIGN THAT THEY SAY, IT'S GOTTA BE THESE SPECS HERE. SO WE, HOW DOES, HOW DOES IT RATE, LIKE SUPERIORS THE BEST AND THEN WHAT ARE THE LIKE DOES WITH ALL THE, YEAH. SO YOU GET SUPERIOR. UH, THERE USED TO BE THREE CATEGORIES. NOW I THINK THERE'S FOUR, BUT I THINK IT'S A SUPERIOR AS THE TOP LEVEL, ADEQUATE AS THE BOTTOM LEVEL. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE TWO IN BETWEEN ARE THE ONE IN BETWEEN IS, UH, BUT WE'VE BEEN SUPERIOR. I THINK IT'S LIKE 12 OR 13 YEARS RUNNING. SO I THINK THAT'S MORE DIG YET ANOTHER COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH, WHICH HAD THEIR ISSUES, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD BE TELLING ANYWAY, IT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. WELL, THAT'S SO FUNNY YOU BRING THAT UP THERE. UM, SO WHEN I WAS IN IOWA, [03:00:01] I ACTUALLY, I TELL STAFF THAT THEY COULDN'T DRINK OUT OF THOSE, THAT THEY HAD TO PUT THEM IN A CUP. WE HAVE ONE PRODUCT THAT WE SELL ONE AND IT'S THAT. AND WHAT ARE WE TELLING OUR CUSTOMERS IF WE'RE DRINKING FROM A BOTTLE AND NOT FROM A CUP, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, ZARQA IN A COUPLE OF PLACES AND FILTRATION SYSTEMS WE'RE DOING AWAY WITH THOSE. WE MAY BRING IN SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL FILTERS FOR OUR TAP WATER, BUT WE NEED TO BE USING OUR PRODUCT. SO DRINK, TAP WATER. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. THEY'VE LOST THEIR BUCKET OF WATER. WE, I WILL TELL YOU IF YOU'RE STANDING AGAINST THOSE ARTISTS, YOU PART FOR ME, THEY ACTUALLY ALMOST BANKRUPTED THE, YEAH, I HAD THAT BOTTLE. IT WAS ARCH ALMOST BANKRUPTED. THE CITY OF PALESTINE, TEXAS. THEY ENTERED INTO THE WORLD'S MOST UP. IF YOU'RE DRINKING, IT GOES RQ, DRINKING, PALESTINIAN, TAP WATER. HOW STANDARD WEATHERFORD THAT AWFUL. IF YOU'RE DRINKING, IF YOU BUY THE KROGER, YOU'RE DRINKING ATLANTA OR CINCINNATI. MOST FOLKS DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NIGHT. THE ONLY TIME I GET BOTTLED WATER IS FOR HURRICANE SEASON, I GET TWO THINGS AND I PUT IT IN THE GARAGE AND LET IT SIT THERE LAST YEAR. I HAD TO USE IT FOR THE FREEZE LINE. YEAH, NO, NO. WE STOPPED. WE STOPPED BOTTLED WATER BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS. BUT I'M JUST SAYING FOR ME, WHEN I FOUND OUT WE HAD THOSE ARCA CONTRACTS, I WAS LIKE, OH NO, BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE ANOTHER CITY IN TEXAS, REALLY DIRTY. CAUSE I KNOW THE BACKSTORY, IT'S GOT 45 YARDS OF WATER WHEN I SAID THERE'S A HURRICANE COMING UP, FILL HIM UP, PUT HIM IN MY BATHROOM. YEP. NO THAT'S GOOD. THE ONLY THING I GOT LEFT TO TO FINISH WITH IS, IS I KNOW THAT EACH MONTH THAT WE, UM, WE PROVIDE YOU WITH, UH, INFORMATION, THANK YOU THROUGH A REPORT AND EVERYTHING. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE ON THOSE REPORTS OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SEE DIFFERENTLY, OR IF YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT LET US KNOW. CAUSE I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'VE GOT, UH, ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION. I MEAN, IT'S REALLY KNOWING WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY. I MEAN, WE'VE STARTED A PROCESS OVER HERE WHERE WE TRACK EVERYTHING AND TRY TO GET THAT TOURS. THERE'S UH, WE, I DON'T WANT TO SPREADSHEET YOU TO DEATH. I DON'T WANT TO GRAPH YOU TO DEATH, BUT I MEAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY PULL IT UP. IT KEEPS ME OUT OF TROUBLE. I CAN PULL RECORDS BACK, STARTED THIS BACK IN 15. AT THE ONE POINT WE, WE TRACK EVERYTHING. AND THEN LAST DAY THROUGH ALL OF THAT, EVERY, ALL THE OTHER REPORTS ON ALL WERE CHRIS AND CJ AND ALL THAT YOU WANT TO CROSS-REFERENCE RAIN BY WATER USAGE. HE'S GOT IT EVERY DAY, GOING BACK TO 2015. IT'S PRETTY COOL. SO, SO YOU, THAT YOU WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU, JUST LET US KNOW, UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY CUT OFF. OKAY. HAVE YOU EVER FOUND QUITE A FEW? WE FOUND LINES. WE FIND LINES THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WERE THERE. SO WE'RE FIXING TO FIND, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT GOES THROUGH THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. SO IF YOU GOT KNOWLEDGE, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. HEY YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. MARY, I THINK LUNCH IS HERE. YOU WANT, YEAH, THERE'S A CAKE OVER THERE. THAT LITTLE RUBBER BALL THAT LIAM THREW HER OFF. SHE JUST MADE IT. SO, UH, PROBABLY NO GOOD THAT YOU CAN DRIVE. I'M SURE. IT'S GREAT. I'LL PASS IT UP. OKAY. UH, NEXT IS WHAT WE CALL OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. NOW I REMEMBER TO TAKE MY MEDICINE. SO HOPEFULLY I WON'T REQUIRE AN INSULIN PUMP AFTER THAT, BUT, UH, WE DO, UH, NICKI, I REALIZED THAT WE'RE JUMPING AROUND FROM FUND TO FUND. WE KIND OF CHANGED THE WAY WE DO IT. WE'VE GOT A DIVIDED BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC WORKS, WHAT WE CALL QUALITY OF LIFE AND THEN GENERAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO THE FUND NUMBERS MAY NOT FOLLOW THAT, BUT THAT'S HOW WE HAVE THEM LUMPED TOGETHER. SO MY APOLOGIES, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE PAGE AN EIGHT OR A NUMBER OF THE PAGES NEXT TIME. BUT, UH, LOOKING AT QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT INCLUDES A LIBRARY, THE PARK SYSTEM, AND THEN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY CVB. I AM GREAT, [03:05:01] TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL FUNDS. AND SO LOOKING AT THE LIBRARY, LOOK AT LOOKING AT THE LIBRARY. UH, ESSENTIALLY WE'VE NOT REALLY CHANGED A WHOLE LOT. UH, WE DO HAVE A NEW LIBRARIAN. I WENT AND MET WITH HER THE OTHER DAY. UM, SHE IS, UH, SHE'S MADE SOME SMALL CHANGES, BUT NOTHING ON THE SCALE. IF YOU RECALL, WE SPENT ABOUT $120,000 OVER FOUR YEAR SPAN DOING SOME RENOVATION WORK. SO THEIR BUDGETS HELD PRETTY STEADY MOVING TO DEPART. SO YOU SEE A WILLINGNESS INTREPID CREW LAYING THE PAD FOR, UH, I THINK THAT'S IS THAT AMEN CORNER AT THE NEW, NO, THAT'S A, WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S 15 AND 16, 15 AND 16 AT THE DISC GOLF COURSE. I'M ARE HOSTING. WHAT ARE WE HOSTING TODAY? THE SECOND ANNUAL MOSQUITO MATCH THIS ALTERNATE. YES. SO BE SURE TO CHECK THAT OUT. UH, I'M SURE THAT'S ON THE OTO OR ESPN PEDIGREE OR SOMETHING. FOX NET 27, UH, LOOKING AT PARKS AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO WILL HERE IN JUST A SECOND, BUT BASICALLY EVERYTHING'S HOLDING STEADY. UH, HE IS, UH, AGREED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE TO MY, UH, TWISTING THEIR ARMS AND WITHHOLDING. THEY HA HE HAS AN, UH, AN OPENING CURRENTLY, UH, ON THE MAINTENANCE TEAM. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HOLD THAT OPEN UNTIL MID POINT NEXT YEAR, UNTIL WE CAN FIND THE, MAKE SURE WE'RE IN DECENT ENOUGH SHAPE TO BRING SOMEBODY IN OTHERWISE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD THERE? WE ARE DOING SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. YEAH. I CAN TALK ABOUT CAPITAL. AND LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING IS STAYING VERY, VERY SIMILAR, ALMOST THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT OUR ADVANTAGE OR ANYTHING. WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE OPERATE WITH THE MINDSET, TRY TO PROVIDE MOST OF OUR, MOST OF OUR EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO ARE FREE OF CHARGE TO THE PUBLIC. SO WE DON'T GENERATE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE OUT TO OUR RESONANCE. SO ALL OF THAT'S REALLY STAYING THE SAME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO, TWO BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE REPRESSED REQUESTED THIS YEAR. AND SO THOSE, UH, THE CHILLER SYSTEM AT THE, UH, BR HESTER CENTER AS, UH, WHEN IT WAS INSTALLED, UH, IT WAS, I DON'T THINK APPROPRIATELY SIZED, BUT THEN THE COUPLING FROM THE, THE COUPLING IN THE SYSTEM, WE GO FROM ALUMINUM TO COPPER AND WE IT'S A TICKING TIME BOMB AND WE'VE HAD IT PATCHED TOGETHER. WE'VE GONE THROUGH PROMPTS, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN DO. IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. THE CHILLER SYSTEM ITSELF NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. AND SO WE ESTIMATE THAT IT'S GOING TO COST US ABOUT $200,000. UH, WE'VE GOT THAT ASSIGNED TO FUND 1 0 1. UH, SO THAT'S THE TRANSFER IN IT FROM 48 63 TO COVER THAT COST. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, PHASE TWO OF THE PARK, UH, THE FENCES, UM, EXIST IN SOME PLACES BARELY, UH, IN OTHER PLACES. IT DOESN'T. SO WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND RE-SECURE THAT REPLACE THE FENCE AROUND THERE. AND THAT I ACTUALLY BECAME KIND OF AN ISSUE FOR US, I GUESS IT WAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE LAST WE HAD FOLKS, I AGREE, BUT IT'S GOTTEN WORSE AND WORSE WITH THE, UH, THE FREEZE, THE DROUGHT, UM, TREE SAID OUR TREES AND ALL THE PARTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN A TOLL. THEY THEY'VE SUFFERED. WE'VE LOST A NUMBER OF THEM. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THEM FALL OVER. UM, SEVERAL OF THE ONES THAT FALL OVER WERE NOT PART TREES, BUT THEY ARE IN THE NEIGHBORING YARDS ON WAYMOND STREET. BACK THERE HAVE COME DOWN THROUGH THE FENCE. UM, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF CHANGES OVER THE YEARS WHERE THERE WAS A GATE THAT IN THE FENCE, THERE WAS A GATE TAKEN OUT, UH, THAT, THAT WHOLE FENCE LINE AROUND, I CALL IT THE BACK 40, BUT THE WHOLE BACKUP OF THE PHASE TWO IS, IS IN ITS VERY ROUGH SHAPE. UH, IT'S ALMOST 5,000 FEET OF FENCE. THAT'S HARD TO IMAGINE, BUT THAT'S CLOSE TO A MILE, A FENCE AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF THAT PARK THAT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEEDS TO BE REDONE AND SECURE. IS THAT ONE OF YOUR CAPITAL? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I WAS GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT ON THE, ON THE CHILLER DISCUSSION, JUST TO KINDA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, SORRY. OUR CHILLER IS SET UP WITH AN A AND A B CIRCUIT, BASICALLY REDUNDANCY SO THAT IF ONE SIDE GOES DOWN, WE'VE GOT THE COOLING CAPACITY TO KEEP THE GYM AND EVERYTHING GOING. UM, HOWEVER, FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE BEEN RUNNING SOLELY ON, ON ONE CIRCUIT, THE OTHER SIDE IS COMPLETELY DEAD. WE'VE GOT THREE OF THE FIVE COMPRESSORS ARE DEAD, BOTH SETS OF COILS LEAK AT THAT DISSIMILAR METAL CONNECTION, THE COPPER AND ALUMINUM, UM, THAT WAS ALL INSTALLED IN 2013, I BELIEVE IN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT. UM, SO WE, WE ALMOST MADE IT 10 YEARS, WHICH ISN'T QUITE AS LONG AS WE SHOULD HAVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR A CHILLER LIKE THAT, THAT'S OUTDOORS IN THE ELEMENTS EXPOSED TO OUR SALT AIR AND OUR CHEMICALS, IF YOU CAN GET 13 TO 15 YEARS IS A, IS A NORMAL LIFESPAN. SO WE DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT, BUT WE'RE GETTING REAL CLOSE TO THAT OR HOPING TO LIMP THROUGH THE SUMMER ON ABOUT [03:10:01] 40% CAPACITY AND THEN REPLACE IT THIS FALL, WHAT YOU DON'T SEE. AND I KNOW WHAT'S PROBABLY AT THE TOP OF YOUR MINDS IS THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE RELATED TO THE POOL RIGHT NOW. SO, UH, WE CAN SAY THAT WE ARE, WE CAN SAY THAT WE WERE HAVING VERY, UH, PROGRESSIVE AND, UH, POSITIVE TALKS WITH THE ISD. WE ARE NOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN SAY WE HAVE A COMMITMENT, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP AND AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE ON A PARTNERSHIP TO FUND A AQUATIC FACILITY, UH, AND THEN HAVE US OPERATE. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO OFFICIALLY SAY ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE A DEAL, FORMALLY STRUCK NUMBERS AND WORDS ON PAPER AGREED TO, IS THAT SAFE TO SAY? YEAH, THAT'S FAIR. YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD IT. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS. UH, I ACTUALLY WENT EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH A GROUP FROM B ISB FROM BLK APPEALED. OKAY. WHOEVER THEIR ARCHITECT AND CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT IS, WE WENT TO ANGLETON TO LOOK AT THE NEW FACILITY AT BANGS IN HIGH SCHOOL. UH, THEY ARE COMING TO OUR FACILITY ON WEDNESDAY OF THIS COMING WEEK. SO WE CAN KIND OF WALK AND MEASURE AS FAR AS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN PUT IN THE SPACE THAT'S THERE. AND SO I, I THINK WE'RE WELL ON THE WAY ON A POSITIVE PATH TO GET INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR A JOINT USE FACILITY, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET. NO, IT WAS, IS THIS, WOULD THIS REPLACE THE, WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN AN EARLIER COUNCIL MEETING OVER? SO WHAT THIS, WHAT WE, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IN A PHASE PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD REPLACE THE PHYSICAL PLANT IN THE GROUND WITH A NEW FACILITY, AND THEN WE'LL WORK TOWARDS BUILDING. WE'VE GOT IDEAS ON HOW TO MAKE IT USABLE MORE OFTEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UH, AND THEN ENCLOSE IT AND THEN BUILD UPON THAT. UM, AND THEN THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE TALKED WITH OUR ENGINEERS AT STEVENS. IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE THIS TYPE OF FACILITY AND THEN ADD, SAY A LAZY RIVER TO IT? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I'D SAY, I'D SAY A LAZY RIVER, UM, AND COVER IT AND MAKE IT USABLE THROUGH 65. AND THEY FELT LIKE THAT GETTING THIS IN THE GROUND AND THEN COMING BACK AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, UH, IN FUTURE YEARS IS PROBABLY A MORE REALISTIC PLAN. OKAY. BUT YES, JUST, I MEAN, REALLY, JUST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT JUST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE MEETING WITH COUNCIL AND PARKS BOARD IN MAY, I'M GOING INTO THIS WITH THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE A PHASED OUT PROJECT TO, YOU KNOW, TO START, LIKE I SAID, WITH, WITH A POOL THAT'S USABLE FOR THEM AND FOR US, AND THEN TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, PHASE TWO OR PHASE THREE, AS WE MOVE DOWN THE ROAD, ADD SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES THAT WE WOULD WANT IN THE CITY WOULD WANT THAT OUR RESIDENTS WOULDN'T WANT THAT THE SCHOOL DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GET STARTED AND THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GET STARTED, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE TO HAVE A POOL IN THE GROUND IS THE FIRST BIG STEP TO GET US BACK UP AND RUNNING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WAS DISCUSSED THEN AS WELL, THE POSSIBILITY OR THE FEASIBILITY OF USING THE LOCKER ROOMS, THE CONCESSION STAND, THE OFFICES AND STUFF THAT ARE ALREADY THERE TO CUT DOWN SOME CONSTRUCTION COSTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT TO HAVE A FULL PLAN IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DO, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERGROUND STUFF TO RUN YOUR PIPES, TO RUN ALL THAT STUFF FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MIGHT BUILD IN A YEAR OR TWO OR THREE DOWN THE ROAD THAN TO, YOU KNOW, TO COME BACK AND HAVE TO REDO ALL THAT AFTER THE FACT. SO WE WANT TO HAVE A FULL, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN WE START, BUT BE ABLE TO BREAK THAT UP INTO PHASES OVER, OVER SEVERAL YEARS TO MAKE IT A PROJECT THAT WE CAN ALL SWALLOW AND, AND ACCOMMODATE. YEAH. AWESOME. THANK YOU. COOL. THE OTHER QUESTIONS ON PARKS, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT, AS I SAID, THE FENCE AND THE CHILLER IS REALLY THE ONLY CHANGES TO THE BUDGET COMING IN FROM LAST YEAR. UM, BESIDES THAT I KNOW WE HAVE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, I W WHERE ARE WE ON THAT PROCESS? SO THE MASTER PLANS IN PLACE, UM, WHICH LIKE WE TOLD YOU WAS THE FIRST STEP TO START APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. EVERY ONE OF THOSE GRANTS REQUIRES AT LEAST A 50% MATCH. AND I STARTED, I STARTED THIS BUDGET WITH $150,000 IN CAPITAL FUNDS OF JUST GRANT MATCHING FUNDS TO BE AVAILABLE, AND THAT HAD TO HAVE TO COME OUT. SO FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE A PROJECT STARTED. OKAY. IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT SHORT-TERM PAIN FOR LONG-TERM GAIN. AND WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN I GET INTO THE, INTO THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT SECTION, BUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOLKS TO DO IS BASICALLY [03:15:01] HOLD STATUS THIS YEAR. UH, KIND OF MORE STEER LOOK TOWARDS FINISHING OUT THE PROJECTS WE HAD ON THE FRONT SIDE, ABSOLUTELY GOING WITH THE ONES THAT ARE ABSOLUTE HALF OF THESE, AND THEN COMING BACK NEXT YEAR AND START LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING LONG-TERM PLAN OBJECTIVES. UH, MR. MASSOUD WHERE CJ AND I ARE TRYING TO GET A MEETING SET UP WITH MR. . I PLAN TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT GRANT PROGRAM FOR OUR ART CAUSE. CAUSE LIKE I MENTIONED TO WILL THE OTHER DAY OVER THE HOOPS, A COUPLE PEOPLE REACHED OUT TO ME, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW AND WILL INFORM ME THAT WE TOOK THEM OUT, UH, DURING COVID THE BASKETBALL GOALS. I GUESS IF THAT'S WHAT THE NAME THEM ARE. UH, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TAKEN THEM OUT. I KNOW WE HAVE THAT HALF COURT, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, IS, I KNOW YOU SAID SOME, UH, EXPANSION OR LIKE MAYBE I WOULD LOVE TO EXPAND THAT AND MAKE THAT A FULL-SIZED COURT, UM, KINDA THE, THE HIDDEN BENEFIT THAT WASN'T EXPECTED WHEN WE TOOK ALL THOSE DOWN. AND THE REASON THAT I DID NOT PUT ANYTHING BACK UP AT THE NEXT TO THE PAVILION IS, IS THERE'S KIND OF TWO FOLD, REALLY THE VANDALISM AND GRAFFITI HAS ALMOST GONE AWAY AND THE AMOUNT OF CONFLICTS AND FIGHTS BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT PAID THE RENT, THE PAVILION AND THE FOLKS THAT WANTED TO BE RIGHT THERE IN THEIR SAME SPACE, PLAYING BASKETBALL HAS GONE AWAY. UM, IT GOT TO BE REALLY TOUCHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY PAID MONEY TO RENT THE PAVILION YEAH. AND SOMEBODY, AND THERE WAS 20 KIDS TRYING TO PLAY BASKETBALL TWO FEET AWAY FROM THEIR PARTY. RIGHT. UM, SO WE, WE PUT THE ONES BACK UP IN PHASE TWO, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THE COURTS BACK UP AT RODDIS AND THE OTHER PARKS, THE ONLY ONES THAT DIDN'T GO BACK UP OR THOSE TWO THEY'RE AT PHASE ONE. AND LIKE, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF COMPLAINTS, BUT WE'VE SEEN, I THINK A MUCH MORE, MORE UPSIDES AND DOWNSIDES FROM THAT YOU'VE BEEN ON TO LIKE, YOUR GRASS IS NOT GOING TO BE AS HARD TO MOSES. YEAH. WE'VE SAVED ON WELL, MELINDA IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT IT DOESN'T GROW EXCEPT FOR IN PATCHES, YOU KNOW? SO YOU STILL, WE'RE STILL BOWING, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE CUTTING EVERYTHING. NOW WE'RE CUTTING A PATCH THIS BIG HERE AND A PATCH OVER HERE AND MOVING ON TO THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUND. OH FOUR, EXCUSE ME. UH, WE HAVE, UH, I MET WITH THE CORN YESTERDAY. WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS. WE'VE HELD STEADY, UH, AN INCREASED A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UH, EXPENDITURE SIDE, THE REVENUE SIDE. WE WE'RE STILL PROJECTING LOWER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE IN THE LAST YEAR. UH, IF YOU'VE BEEN BY, YOU'VE NOTICED THAT THE PARKING LOTS ARE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE FULL. WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE. I DON'T THINK THAT WE WILL EVER BE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE PROBABLY 20 16, 20, 20, 15, 20 16 IN TERMS OF NET REVENUE AND ATTENDANCE, JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE COMPETITION IN THE MARKET. NOW, UH, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN YELLOW. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY, UH, CHANGING. UH, LET ME GET BACK OVER HERE. AND SO, UH, COMING OUT OF 46, 60 SPECIAL PROJECTS, WE'VE ELIMINATED THE BRANDING INITIATIVE FOR THIS YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF THE EDC CAN MAYBE PICK UP THE LOAD THERE, BUT DOING AWAY WITH DOING AWAY WITH THAT. AND ALSO WE HAD BUDGETED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, A SHARED MARKETING POSITION THAT POSITION NEVER GOT FILLED. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FILL IT THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, UH, TO TRY AND GET AWAY FROM THAT. THAT'S NOT THE SAY WE DON'T NEED THOSE THINGS. IT'S JUST THE REALITY OF BEING ABLE TO HANDLE THAT WORKLOAD AND GET THOSE THINGS DONE. ISN'T THERE RIGHT NOW. SO, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE HOLDING STEADY ON THE, UH, EXPENDITURE RELATED TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ALSO AT THE CENTER FOR ARTS AND SCIENCES, UM, AND THE MOSQUITO FESTIVAL. BUT LONG-TERM THE DRAW ON FUNDS FOR THAT FUND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REPLENISHING THE WAY WE WERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START THINKING STRATEGICALLY ABOUT HOW WE UTILIZE THOSE MONIES AND HOW WE EXPEND THESE FUNDS. UH, WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE RESERVES TO GET US THROUGH THIS YEAR, BUT STARTING TO GO FORWARD, WE START NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW WE HANDLE THAT AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WHAT'S THE, WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK? [03:20:01] AND SO, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THOSE ITEMS TO YOUR ATTENTION, THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW CHAMBER OF VISITORS EVENTS, WHAT IS THE, THAT'S THE, UH, SO LET ME GO BACK UP. SO WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT REDUNDANCY IN TERMS OF CVB AND HOT. UH, AND SO WE'RE SUPPORTING BOTH OUR CVV ACTIVITIES AND THE CHAMBERS. WE'RE JUST MAKING NOTE OF THAT. UM, AND THEN ALSO IN THE 46 60, THOSE ARE THE TWO HIGHLIGHTED FUNDS WHERE WE EITHER REDUCE, UH, REDUCE THE EXPENDITURES OR MODIFIED THE EXPENDITURES. AND THAT, LIKE I SAID, THE BRANDING IS ONE OF THOSE. UH, WE DID CONFIRM WITH THE BAND FESTIVAL, WE'RE GOING TO BUDGET THAT ANOTHER YEAR. UH, SEE IF WE CAN'T GET IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO STANDING ON ITS OWN. AND IT'S NOT A LARGE DRAW. IT'S ONLY 15,000, BUT WE ACTUALLY DID BRING IN QUITE A NUMBER OF FOLKS. I KNOW WE HAD, UH, ONE SCHOOL GROUP OUT IN THE COUNTY THAT CAME DOWN AND STAYED FOR TWO DAYS AND GENERATED HEADS AND BEDS FOR US, WHICH WAS KINDA NICE. SO, UM, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT WE AREN'T NETTING WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT AND THAT CAN'T LAST TOO, TOO LONG THAN THAT PHONE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO ASK SOMETHING, BUT I CAN'T GET ARTICULATED. UH, OKAY. SO WE HAVE OUR OWN CLUE VISITOR'S BUREAU. WHY DO WE GIVE, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE PUT ONLY $5,000 MORE INTO OUR VISITORS BUREAU THAN WE DO CHAMBER. WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SUNK COST, WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING A LITTLE BIT MORE, ACTUALLY A LOT MORE BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE THE STAFF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO WE'RE AT, I WOULD SAY CLOSER TO 125,000 INVESTORS IN OUR CVB, BUT YOU HAVE STAFF COSTS REFLECTED IN THERE. SO, OKAY. SO THOSE ARE JUST THE MARKETING COSTS WHAT'S BEING SPENT ON MARKETING. THE CHAMBERS VISITORS EVENTS, IS THAT THE, WHAT THEY CAME TO PRESENT TO US WHERE THAT MONEY HAS GONE TO, BUT I'D SAY THERE'S OVERLAP IN SOME OF THE AREAS LIKE THE PRINT ADS IN TEXAS HIGHWAYS. UH, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE DO WITH VISIT HOUSTON, ALL OF THAT'S OVER THE SUMMIT, SOME OF THAT IS OVERLAPPING, UH, THE SHOW ATTENDANCE, UH, I THINK WE HIT SOME OF THE SAME SHOWS THEY DO. SO DO WE HAVE ON OUR SIDE, ON OUR, UH, VISITORS BUREAU, DO WE HAVE LIKE, CAN WE TRACK WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND LIKE RETURN ON INVESTMENT TYPE STUFF OR SO RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF TOURISM IS SUPER DIFFICULT. I MEAN, WE CAN SAY, WE WENT TO, WE PUT AN AD IN TEXAS MONTHLY OR TEXAS HIGHWAYS THIS MONTH. MAYBE THAT'S FOR SOMEBODY A YEAR THAT FOLLOWING YEAR TO COME VISIT, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CORRELATES DID THERE. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT LIKE BAM, OR WE HAVE AN EVENT LIKE A GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL, WE TRY AND SAY, OKAY, WE DID THIS EVENT. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROFILE IN FOLKS STAYING IN THE HOTELS? DID THEY GO UP OR DOWN? THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE MEASURE IT ON THE PRINT ADVERTISEMENT, THE ATTENDANCE, IT SHOWS THE SOCIAL MEDIA. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WAY OF SHOWING. UH, WHEN I WAS, UH, A GOOD UNION YEARS AGO, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, BACK IN IOWA, WE TRIED TO DO A THING WHERE IF SOMEBODY CAME TO TOWN AND CHECKED OUT THE HOTEL, WE GAVE HIM A PACKET OF 25, UH, EL DORA BUCKS, AND THEY TO USE AROUND TOWN TO TRY AND TRACK THEIR SPENDING. UH, WE GOT THREE BACK FOR EVERY 25 WE PLAYED. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OTHER 22 WEB, MAYBE THEY'RE IN SOMEBODY WHO'S MONOPOLY KIDS. NOW WE DON'T KNOW. UH, IT'S JUST SUPER, SUPER HARD TO TRACK THAT AND KNOW THAT CORRELATIVE SPENDING THERE ARE SYSTEMS, UH, THEY'RE GONNA, THIS IS GOING TO SOUND REALLY TERRIBLE. THAT'S WHAT WHAT'S CALLED A FINANCIAL TRANSACTION, UH, TRACKING SYSTEMS THAT YOU CAN PUT OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN CORRELATE, UH, INDIVIDUAL CREDIT CARD NUMBERS TO WHERE THAT MONEY IS SPENT. THEY'RE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE, IF, IF WE WERE SAN ANTONIO, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO DO THAT KIND OF THING. I'M NOT SO SURE THE SCALE MATCHES THE NEED TO DO THAT. SO WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THE ROI IS. YEAH. THERE ARE STUDIES THAT THEY CAN DO, BUT THEY'RE VERY, HAVE WE EVER HAD LIKE A MARKETING COMPANY, LIKE A PROFESSIONAL MARKETING GROUP, LIKE LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT WE DO AND THEN MAYBE MAKE SUGGESTIONS OR THEM WE'D STARTED THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF PRINT AD AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO EVEN BUY MAGAZINES. RIGHT. SO I'M LIKE, HMM. MOST OF MY MARKETING IS INTERNET [03:25:01] BASED. I DO VERY FEW PRINT AD ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I DO LIKE, UM, AMAZON AND PRIME AND, YOU KNOW, UM, I DO. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S A VERY GOOD AIR. YES. JUMP AHEAD. BUT EVEN LIKE MOSQUITO FAST, WE TOOK A LOT OF THIS CURRENT YEAR, A LOT OF OUR MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR PRINT ADS AND CONVERTED IT OVER TO DO DIGITAL AND ONLINE ADS THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY GET A REPORT BACK TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHO CLICKED ON THIS? WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? WHERE DID YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL STUFF LIKE THIS DEVICE SAW YOUR AD AND CLICK ON IT, BUT THEN TWO DAYS LATER IT WAS AT YOUR WEBSITE. GEO-FENCING SO LIKE, IF THEY VISIT THE, UM, CENTER FOR ARTS AND SCIENCES, IT GOES BACK AND IT TAGS THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DO MARKETING CAMPAIGNS THAT WAY AND STUFF. SO I WAS KIND OF SPOOKED WHEN I SAT THROUGH THE SEMINAR, LEARNS ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU'RE TRACKED AND ADVERTISING. AND IT'S GREAT FOR US, BUT IT'S KIND OF SPOOKY MAKES YOU WANNA TURN YOUR PHONE OFF AND THROW IT IN THE WATER. AND LIKE, CAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR VEERS AND EVERYTHING. SO LIKE IF THEY GO TO AMAZON AND THEY LOOK UP, YOU KNOW, THEY BUY, UM, RV, TOILET PAPER, YOU KNOW? SO IT, IT DOESN'T ADD FOR, FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT FISHING, YOU KNOW, IT DOES AN AD FOR THAT. SO IT DOES TARGETING CAMPAIGNS. YEAH. WE'VE NOT HIRED A FIRM THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN 2018 WAS BRINGING IN A, A GROUP OUT OF DALLAS THAT WE WORKED WITH TO HELP US A WITH BRANDING, BUT MONITOR ALSO MARKET STRATEGY. UH, AND WHERE WE AIM, HOW WE AIM THAT A LOT OF THAT'S BECOME INTUITIVE WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND FACEBOOK. AND, BUT WE'VE NEVER DONE A, I GUESS, A COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES, WHERE IT COMES FROM. SO, YEAH. CAUSE I KNOW WITH LIKE A GOOGLE ADS, FACEBOOK ADS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE CAN GET THE STATISTICS AND THE DATA ON THAT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. BUT I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH HIS MADOX IS THAT THE PRINTING? I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IN MY GENERATION, YEAH. I JUST, I GET, I SUBSCRIBED TO THE NEWSPAPER, BUT I GET IT ON MY PHONE. RIGHT. I RAN ON MY PHONE FIRST THING EVERY MORNING. YEAH. SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT'S IN HERE, UH, IS, IS A PRINT PROJECT. I WILL TELL YOU, UH, WE HAVE A HIGH DEMAND EVERY YEAR FOR THE CALENDAR. FOLKS WANT THE CALENDAR, BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT LIKE, LIKE A MAGAZINE THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION TO IN ORDER TO GET A COPY. ANYBODY THAT WANTS ONE CAN COME GET ONE FOR FREE. WELL, AND ACTUALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REFRAMING THE CALENDAR AND REDOING IT AS A, AS A, INCLUDING THE CALENDAR AS PART OF A CLUE MAGAZINE THAT WOULD COME OUT TWICE A YEAR. VERY SIMILAR TO SWEENEY HAS ONE. I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE WAY THERE'S LOOKED. AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT NEW, UH, WEST COLUMBIA IS GETTING READY TO LAUNCH ONE INFORMATIVE ARTICLES ABOUT HOW YOU DO STUFF, UH, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE PRINT GENERATION. BUT THEY ALSO HAVE AN ONLINE ANALOG THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SCAN A QR CODE. AND IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. YEAH. CAUSE MY THING WITH PRINT, WHEN I SAY PRINTED, IT'S NOT THAT ALL PRINT IS BAD. LIKE THE CALENDARS AND STUFF OR COMMUNITY MAGAZINE IT'S WELL, LIKE THE STUFF THAT THE CHAMBER HAS SENT US, I'VE LOOKED AT THOSE AND IT'S JUST LIKE, WE PUT IT OUT IN THIS MAGAZINE, THIS MAGAZINE, THIS MAGAZINE, IT COSTS ABOUT 50,000. NO. HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR EACH MAGAZINE? HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY TAX PERSON AND JUST SPENT 50,000 ON SOME MAGAZINES. SHE'D RING MY NECK AND SHE'D BE LIKE, I NEED RECEIPTS, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE MODEL NOW, BUT I KNOW, UH, IN THE PAST YOU HAD TO BUY PRINT IN ORDER TO GET DIGITAL. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT WAS THAT WAY OR NOT. SO YEAH, THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY'VE TRIED TO KEEP THE PRINT STUFF AFLOAT IS TO TIE THE TWO TOGETHER. YEAH. UM, THE, AND THEN, I MEAN, AND THIS IS JUST REFRESHING MY MEMORY BECAUSE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON HOW WE CAN USE HOT FUNDS AND CVB WHAT BASICALLY IT HAS TO BRING HEADS TO BEDS OR IT HAS TO BE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED, RELATED TO BRINGING HEADS TO BEDS. SO IF, UH, WE HAD, UM, FAMS, A GOOD EXAMPLE, WE MARKET THAT AROUND THE WORLD AND WE MARKET THAT AROUND TEXAS AND WE TRY AND BRING IN AND INCENTIVIZE THOSE KIDS THAT ARE WINNING AWARDS. I THINK HE GAVE AWARDS AWAY TO SOME FILMS THIS YEAR THAT DIDN'T DESERVE IT, BUT HE KNEW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO COME. AND SO HE DID THE AWARD THAT WAY, UH, DTMF, WE TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MUSIC ACTS THAT ARE GOING TO APPEAL TO A BROAD SPECTRUM FROM ALL ACROSS THE STATE, HOPING TO DRAW SOME PEOPLE. WHEN WE DID, WHEN WE BROUGHT DWELL IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD PEOPLE FROM AS FAR AWAY AS THE VALLEY AND BEAUMONT COMING IN JUST TO SEE THOSE GUYS PLAY. OUR ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY STAYED HERE. OUR HOPE IS THAT THEY STAY HERE, BUT WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE AT THAT TIME THE MEANS TO TRACK IT. SO, [03:30:01] UH, IT HAS TO BRING THE HEADS TO BEDS OR IT HAS TO BE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S GOING TO BRING HEADS TO BEDS. AND SO IF WE WANTED TO DO A, UH, IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A CIVIC CENTER OR A SPORTS COMPLEX, UH, THOSE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE COST AS LONG AS WE COULD PROVE UP THAT THAT WAS GOING TO THEN BECOME A REGIONAL ATTRACTIVE TO BRING FOLKS TO TOWN, TO SPEND THE NIGHT AND PUT MONEY BACK INTO THE HOTEL SYSTEM. YEAH. HENCE THE, HENCE THE REASON THAT WE, THAT PART OF THE REASON THAT WE FOLLOWED WITH CHAMBERS BECAUSE THEY PROMOTE THE ENTIRE AREA. WHEN YOU SIT CITY, YOUR CLUE HAS PROBABLY MORE HOTEL BEDS THAN ANY CITY AROUND HERE. THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE SUPPORT THEM AS MUCH. WELL, I MEAN, I LOOKED UP HOW MUCH, LIKE EACH CITY'S GIVING. AND SO IT LOOKED LIKE LAKE JACKSON GAVE ME LIKE A HUNDRED AND OR WORST PROJECTED, DO YOU HAVE LIKE $140,000? FREEPORT GAVE $5,000 AND WE'RE PAYING 60 AND WE'RE ALL GETTING THE SAME RESULTS. WE'RE ALL GETTING THE SAME OUTCOME. YEAH. JUST EVERYBODY'S PAYING A DIFFERENT AMOUNT TOWARDS IT. FREEPORT IS GETTING THE SAME BENEFIT AT $5,000 FROM THE CHAMBER THAT LIKE JACKSON IS PAYING OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THAT'S. YEAH. AND YOU HEARD MR. SNYDER MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE 16% OF THE PROPERTY INDUSTRIAL CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY IN THE CITY. TJ CITY GETS 26% INDUSTRIAL CONTRACT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT WAS ALL OF THE CONFUSION THAT WAS AROUND THE, UH, ANNEXATIONS THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. SO THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING OUR FULL AMOUNT. SO THEY, THEY ARE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE, THE THING IS STRAIGHT THE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, AND WE PARTICIPATE WITH THE OTHER CITIES, EVERYBODY BENEFITS. IF WE TRY TO BUILD A WALL AROUND THE CITY OF YOUR CLUES THAT ALWAYS GET AT WHAT COMES TO THE CITY. YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND. NO, IT MAKES SENSE. I JUST THINK 60,000 IS A LOT FOR, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND FULLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT THERE'S, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S GIVE AND TAKE AND, AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AS A GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GETTING PROBABLY 1.7 MILLION OUT OF THE INDUCTOR DISTRICT CONTRACT, WHERE WE WERE GETTING WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET. WE'D PROBABLY GET AROUND A MILLION. RIGHT. UH, BASED ON, BASED ON THE ANNEXATION. SO OUT OF LIKE, OUT OF WHAT WE GET FROM THE, I GUESS THIS IS FUNDING FROM THE HOTEL MOTEL. YES, SIR. HOW MUCH IS 60,000? WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE IS THAT? UH, AVERAGE REVENUE OR SO, UH, BACK OF THE MATH OR BACK OF THE BACK, THE CELL PHONE, UH, WHAT'S 15. NOT EVEN THAT OKAY. WHILE YOU'RE FIGURING IT UP, I'VE GOT 12 AND A HALF PERCENT, 12 AND A HALF PERCENT. SO IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT MONEY SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER COINCIDES WITH OUR, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE HAVE, WHERE WE GET IN THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE, THERE'S SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE PAY A LITTLE MORE FOR SOME SERVICES AND THERE'S SOME BUSINESS WHERE WE GET A LITTLE MORE, UH, SO I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A HOLISTIC RELATIONSHIP. IT'S A GROUP IT'S KIND OF A GROUP THING, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING FROM ON THE, ON THE, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, LIKE JACKSON'S GOT WHAT, FOUR MOTELS FIVE THERE. I THINK, I THINK WHAT THE MAYOR WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THERE'S THIS, THEY PAID TWICE WHAT WE PAY. I THINK THERE'S A STRATEGIC VALUE TO, I GUESS, PARTICIPATING IN SOMETIMES MAYBE OVERDO IT JUST A LITTLE BIT TO SHOW THAT WE'RE WILLING PARTNERS FOR THOSE FOLKS, EVEN THOUGH THE CHAMBER DOESN'T HAVE A DIRECT ROLE IN THE IDA, BUT THEY, THE MOVERS AND SHAKERS HAVE A DIRECT INVOLVEMENT, A DIRECT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CHAMBER. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING LET'S DO [03:35:01] AWAY WITH 60,000, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, OUR REVENUE SOMETIMES MISMATCHES ARE NOT, ESPECIALLY MAYBE LIKE AROUND 2020 WHEN WE HAD PROBABLY NOBODY COMING IN, WE WERE, WE GAVE STILL THE SAME AMOUNT. IS THERE MAYBE LIKE SOMETHING WE CAN PROPOSE LIKE A PERCENTAGE WITH THE CAP AND THE FLOOR WE, UH, YEAH. WE, AND THAT'S KINDA WHAT YOU DO WITH THE CENTER FOR ARTS AND SCIENCES. SO THERE YOU HAVE A, A CAP, IF I WANT TO SAY IT'S TWO 50 OR WHAT WAS THE ARE 35.7, A TOTAL REVENUE. SO, UH, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY DURING THE COVID CYCLE TO KEEP THOSE PARTNERS GOING. UH, AND SO, BECAUSE WE HAD FUNDS IN RESERVE, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE FUNDED. SO THEY DIDN'T GO UNDER, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE OTHER NIGHT I WAS AT MCDONALD'S, UH, THERE WAS A PAIR OF NOT OLDER FOLKS. AND THAT SOUNDS BAD WHEN I SAY IT, BUT THERE WAS A, THERE WAS SOME, SOME GRANDPARENTS WITH SOME GRANDKIDS IN FRONT OF ME AND THEY WERE, THEY, THEY SAW MY SHIRT AND THEY LIKE, OH, YOU'RE THE CITY MANAGER. AND I SAID, YEAH, I SAID, HOW DID THEY SAID, WELL, WE REALLY LIKED YOUR LITTLE TOWN. I SAID, WELL, THAT'S GREAT. IT KIND OF ASKED THEY WERE FROM CORPUS, BUT THEY BROUGHT THEIR GRANDKIDS HERE. THEY DID THE C CENTER. THEY DID THE CENTER FOR ARTS AND SCIENCES. THEY KIND OF DID THE WHOLE, THEY GOT THE WHOLE CLUED EXPERIENCE AND THEY WERE GRABBING HOT DOGS OR HAMBURGERS AT MCDONALD'S. AND WHERE DID, WHERE ALL DID YOU GUYS HIT? AND THEY WERE LIKE, WE WERE MOST IMPRESSED WITH THE CENTER FOR ARTS AND SCIENCES. SO THAT KIND OF RESONATED WITH ME THAT I KNOW THAT'S A QUALITY INVESTMENT. WE'RE BRINGING FOLKS IN AND TO SEE THAT THEY LOVE THE KIDS, LOVE THE PLANETARIUM AND THE FACT THAT THE ASTRONAUTS COME IN AND TRAIN AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO, THEY LOVE THE C CENTER TOO, BUT IT WAS, THEY WERE REALLY MOST ENTHRALLED WITH THAT. SO I THINK THERE'S VALUE TO MAINTAINING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND DOING THOSE THINGS, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK TO THE CHAMBER AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO SET UP A FLORIDA CEILING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT DO YOU HAVE, WE WOULD NEED, I GUESS AN IDEA OF, IS IT AROUND THE 12% MARK? IS IT THE 10% MARK? IS IT A, I MEAN, I THINK A CAP WOULD BE THE 60,000 ON A, YOU KNOW, ON OUR, OH YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. HOW TO RECEIVE AND GET TO THAT. I WILL BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU. THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE I GOT HERE THAT HAS, I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I MEAN, OVER THE YEARS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, IT WAS ZEBRA. THEY DIDN'T, THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, THE CITY OF CLINTON DIDN'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH THEM. THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING PERSONAL. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THAT. I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEY ASKED FOR, I THINK THE FIRST YEAR THEY ASKED HER 28,000 OR SOMETHING. AND THEN OVER THE YEARS, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN AS, AS THE AREA GREW. I MEAN, AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE 10 MOTELS OUT HERE OR NINE MOTELS OUT HERE. WE HAD FIVE. SO AS THE HOTELS HAVE ADDED, THEY'VE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY. UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST ALWAYS, I SAID, THIS, THIS MONEY IS EARMARKED FOR ALL. YOU CAN, ALL YOU CAN DO TO PROMOTE TOURISM WITH IT. YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T FIX A STREET, YOU CAN'T FIX A WATER LINE, YOU CAN'T FIX A STREET LIGHT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST, WE JUST FELT LIKE, I MEAN, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, LIKE I SAID, I FELT LIKE THEIR STREET, THE NUMBERS. AND IF WE WORK AS THE PORT CHAMBER WITH LIKE JACKSON, FREEPORT SURF SIDE JOE'S CREEK, YOU KNOW, ALL THE AREAS THAT THEY SERVE, IT'S BENEFITING ALL OF US. IT'S NOT JUST BENEFITING ONE OF US. AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON AND START WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, IT JUST MADE SENSE TO, THERE WAS A BIG PUSH IN THE LEGISLATURE LAST SESSION TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO HOT FUNDS THAT I WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN. CAUSE IT WAS GONNA ALLOW YOU TO USE IT FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND PARK STUFF. AND IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WHAT THEY WOUND UP DOING. I, I, I NOTICED AS I WAS RESEARCHING AND READING A LOT OF THAT, THEY'VE DONE THIS SEVERAL TIMES, INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN USE X AMOUNT OF HOT FUNDS FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN ADVERTISING. UM, THEY S THEY WENT, THE LAW ACTUALLY READS THAT THE CITY ON THE BANK OF THE PART ANALYSIS RIVER, THAT'S THE HOME OF A US PRESIDENTIAL BIRTHPLACE CAN USE 20% OF THEIR HOT FUNDS FOR, UH, FOR OTHER PURPOSES, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS FREDERICKSBURG. UM, THEY DID THAT THREE FOR THREE DIFFERENT CITIES LAST TIME, INSTEAD OF DOING THE WHOLE STATE. AND IT WAS REALLY WEIRD IF YOU'RE ON THE BANKS OF, OF, OF CAL BIO WITH, [03:40:01] AND HAVE A POPULATION OF LESS THAN 5,000 AND HOSTS AN ANNUAL WIENER DOG FESTIVAL, WE'RE EXEMPTED FROM THE HOT WHEELS, RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT THE STATE LAW SAYS. UH IT'S WHAT SPECIAL INTEREST AND WHO TALKS TO THEM. WE, WE DID, LOCATED ALONG THE BANKS OF THE OYSTER CREEK. YEAH. IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE WE, UH, WE MADE A STRONG PUSH AND I THINK IT REPRESENTS A BUS. IT WAS VERY MUCH A CHAMPION FOR US. IT'S JUST, SOMETIMES THAT STUFF GETS LOST IN THE WASH. SO 2009, WE WERE AT 45,000. UH, WE DROPPED A COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, 11 THROUGH, UH, WELL, 11 AND 12, WE PAID 37, 5, 20 13. WE PAID 20, 40 TO 2014. WE PAID 25. AND THEN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WE PAID 45 AND THEN WE JUMPED TO 60. AND IT WAS JUST AT THEIR REQUEST BECAUSE THERE'VE MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF FUEL, THE COST OF IT, COST OF LIVING. I THINK WHAT I'M WANTING TO DO IS MOVE IT TO OUR VISITOR BUREAU IS WHAT I'M SAYING, NOT TAKE IT TO TWO STREETS OR WHATEVER I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU. IF WE HAVE OUR OWN VISITORS BUREAU, IT SHOULD BE FUNDED MORE THAN ANY OTHER. AND WE'VE MADE A POINT TO BRING IT UP TO THAT LEVEL. CAN YOU PULL UP WHAT WE PAID OR WHAT WE ALLOCATED? SO I KNOW WHEN IN 2018, I THINK WE BUMPED IT UP TO MATCH WHATEVER, WHAT IT WAS WE WERE DOING WITH THE CHAMBER. UM, AND HAVE TRIED TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT AHEAD THERE TOO. SO YEAH, I MAY WOULD, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT IT COSTS US TO HAVE OUR EURO, WE HAVE A SALARY, WE HAVE THE FACILITY, WE HAVE THE INTERNET, WE HAVE ALL THAT STUFF. WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT UP WITH WHAT WE ARE CONTRIBUTING, WE'RE CONTRIBUTING QUITE A BIT MORE THAN $60,000, BUT IF IT, BUT WE'RE GETTING MORE INFORMATION TOO, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBER GIVES YOU A, WE PUT IT IN 10 MAGAZINES AND IT COSTS ABOUT $50,000 FOR THE FIRST QUARTER. WELL, WITH OURS, WE CAN GO AND GO SHOW ME WHAT YOU'VE PUT MONEY INTO. WHERE DID THAT MONEY GO? WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE EXACTLY WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING. WELL, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT TO HAVE SALARIES, RIGHT? DON'T WANT TO TREAD ON THAT REAL HEAVILY. BUT I ALL OPINION AS WELL, DULY NOTED, BUT THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO SEE DATA. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS MONEY THAT HAS TO GO TOWARDS CERTAIN THINGS. I MEAN, IF WE GOT AUDITED, COULD WE GET IN TROUBLE? IF WE GOT AUDITED OR SOMETHING AND SOMEBODY NEEDED TO SEE RECEIPTS AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WE JUST GAVE IT OVER THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROCEEDS. NO. SO NOW THIS FALL CLEARLY FALLS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE LAW AS TO WHAT YOU CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR. IF THEY WERE TAKING THOSE MONEY, THEY WERE TAKING THOSE MONIES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PUT IT IN BIOMONITOR TICKETS. THAT'S ANOTHER MATTER. UM, BUT WE KNOW THEY PROVIDE THE PROOF TO US, OR AT LEAST THE EVIDENCE SAYS THAT THEY'RE USING IT FOR ADVERTISING. AND FOR LEGITIMATE PURPOSES, WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM AT THE PRIME OF FACE VALUE. AND THEY'RE A CHAMBER. THEY'RE NOT A REGISTERED DENTAL ASSOCIATION OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE KIND OF BIZARRE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE, UH, CITY IN THE HOUSTON AREA THAT USES THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR HOT TAX TO PURCHASE A SUITE AT MINUTE MAID PARK. AND THEN THEY HAVE THEIR NAME PLASTERED ON THE FRONT OF IT. AND THEN THEY CALL THAT THEIR HOT EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR. I WOULDN'T ADVOCATE FOR THAT. JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S IT'S YEAH. I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES BECAUSE I'VE GOT A FRIEND THAT WORKS THERE, BUT I WAS BLOWN AWAY THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. SO, UM, YEAH. IT'S, WE'LL SEE. NOW YOU GOT MR. QUINN TALKING SINCE WE CAN'T USE THE MONEY FOR ANYTHING ELSE, HARDLY OTHER THAN ADVERTISEMENT THAT WE ALL LEAVE IT, WHERE IT IS AND CONTINUED GETTING THE ADVERTISEMENT, GETTING OUT. I LIKED THE IDEA OF, SOMETIMES I CAN GO TO A PLACE, PICK UP A MAGAZINE AND SAY THE WORD CLUED IN THERE. AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS HOTEL MOTEL TAX, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR. COOL. I MEAN, IF THE, IF THE ISSUE IS, IF THE ISSUE IS THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING THE MONEY ON, ALL [03:45:01] WE GOT TO DO IS ASK FOR MORE DETAIL AND THEY CAN GIVE US MORE DETAIL. I MEAN, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THEM SAY THAT THEY'VE HAD 10,000 HITS ON THIS SITE AND 20,000 HITS ON THAT SITE. SO, I MEAN, THEY GOT THE DATA, I LIST ALL THE SHOWS THAT THEY PHYSICALLY GO TO AND THEY ADVERTISE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIES. UM, AND I DO THE SAME THING FOR MY BOARD, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN DO THE SAME THING FOR Y'ALL TOO. IT'S A QUESTION OF THE PRESENTATION. ALL WE GOTTA DO IS TELL, BUT WE WANT MORE DETAIL. I MEAN, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPLY ANY KIND OF DETAIL THAT WE WANTED AS LONG AS WE'RE PAYING FAIL. I'M SURE THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING. WHEN THEY COME TO PRESENT IT TO US, IT'S BEEN SAAS AND I CONSIDER IT AS POSSIBLE NOT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF OUR TIME. NOT THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT WELL RELEASED. WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR A BILLBOARD OUT THERE. WE DID SEVERAL YEARS AND DIDN'T GET NOTHING FROM IT. I WILL SAY SURFSIDE HAS A BILLBOARD ON THE 10. IT WAS CATCHES MY EYE FOR SOME REASON, OR MAYBE IT'S JUST CAUSE IT STARTED THAT'S MY, I WOULD NEVER BE A PROPONENT FOR BILLBOARDS. SO PLEASE, IT ALWAYS STRIKES EVERY TIME I SEE IT, I KNOW 45 MINUTES AWAY. SO ARE WE READY TO MOVE TO MOSQUITO FESTIVAL? AND I ACTUALLY, UH, WE WERE LOOKING, I BLANKED OUT AGAIN, INADVERTENTLY, UH, THE OVERTIME EXPENSES PERSONNEL COSTS. I HAD TRANSFERRED HIM OFF OF ONE PAYROLL SHEET AND FAILED IT THAT FAILED TO POPULATE THIS SHEET. SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $25,000 IN HERE. THAT'S NOT INCLUDED ON THE BOTTOM LINE, BUT IT IS IT'S HERE NOW. SO IT WILL BE THERE IN THE FINAL. THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT, THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT THAT I HAVE FOR HAVING BOTH WAS THAT OUR GROUP WOULD ADVERTISE TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. THESE, THIS GROUP WOULD ADVERTISE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. SO WE WERE GETTING DOUBLE APPETITE THAT WE WASN'T, THAT WE WEREN'T Y'ALL, WEREN'T ADVERTISING TO THE SAME PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE ADVERTISING. AND UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY OVER THE YEARS, THE NETWORKING HASN'T MESHED AND WE ADVERTISE IN THE SAME PLACES AND GO TO THE SAME PLACES. BUT THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL, YEAH. I MISSED THAT CONVERSATION. I'M SORRY. OH, CHAMBER AND ARVIS ROOT GROWER OVERLAPPING AND GOING AND PUTTING ADVERTISEMENTS IN THE SAME PLACES. BUT THE INTENT WAS NOT THAT IT WAS THE HEAD CREATE, CREATE A DOUBLE EXPOSURE INITIALLY. OH, OKAY. SO THAT'S THE, WELL, I MEAN, IF, IF WE CAN ASK FOR THE DATA, I DUNNO IF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU OR MAYOR TO REACH OUT TO THEM, IF THEY CAN GET IT FOR US. AND I MEAN, IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE NEXT TIME THAT WE MEET, UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY, WE HAVE PROBLEMS. ALL RIGHT, WE READY TO MOVE TO MOSQUITO WORK? WELL, I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY. ALRIGHT. UM, MOSQUITO FESTIVAL AGAIN, VERY, VERY FEW CHANGES. I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE OVERTIME THAT WAS OVERLOOKED, WE'RE, WE'RE STAYING, WE'RE STAYING AT BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME NUMBER. UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING THOUGH, IS THAT EVERYWHERE EVERYBODY IS SEEING OUR COSTS ARE GOING UP UP UP, UM, THIS YEAR HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING ON THE LOGISTICAL SIDE OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE USED TO COULD COUNT ON DONATIONS OF LIGHT TOWERS AND GOLF CARTS AND PORT-A-POTTIES AND GENERATORS AND BARRICADES. AND THAT'S EITHER NOT AVAILABLE OR NOT BEING DONATED. UM, MIKE TOWER, FOR INSTANCE, WE TYPICALLY GET 14 OR 15 TO SPREAD AROUND THE PARK AND USE A GENERATORS AND LIGHTS. UH, INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT ENTIRE LOAD DONATED, I GOT SIX OF THEM DONATE AND WE HAD TO PAY FOR THE OTHER 14, UM, SAME THING WITH GENERATORS, [03:50:01] WITH GOLF CARTS AND BUGGIES, WHERE WE USED TO GET, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GET TWO FROM HERE AND TWO FROM HERE AND TWO FROM HERE AND FOUR FROM HERE. AND I GOT TO DO DONATE IT THIS YEAR AND WE HAD TO RENT A DOZEN. UM, SO EXACTLY THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERYBODY WE'RE ALL SEEING INCREASED COST AND DECREASED AVAILABILITY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S CHANGING AND AFFECTING US WITH THE FESTIVAL. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE REASON OF THAT IS? UM, SO TALKING WITH THE RENTAL COMPANIES, IT'S TWO THINGS. THE BIGGEST ONE, I THOUGHT THE BIGGEST ONE WAS JUST, I KEEP BLAMING IT ON SOLAR PROJECTS. CAUSE THEY ALL TELL ME THEY SUCK UP EVERYTHING. AND HE SAID, THAT'S PART OF IT. BUT THE, THE TRUTHFULLY FOR THEM, THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS AS COME AS COMPANIES, THEY ARE SELLING MORE UNITS EVERY YEAR THAN THEY'RE BUYING. SO THEIR STOCK IS CONTINUALLY, IS CONTINUING TO PLUMBING. UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME. THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME LIKE UNITED RENTALS. HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER MANUFACTURER LIGHT TOWERS, THEY'LL CALL US AND SAY, YOU HAVE 50 UNITS THIS YEAR, SUNBELT YOU'D HAVE 50, YOU HAVE 50. HE SAID, SO WE MIGHT GET 50 BRAND NEW UNITS. AND THESE AREN'T NECESSARILY REAL NUMBERS, BUT YEAH, WE MIGHT GET 50 BRAND NEW UNITS OF LIGHT TOWERS, BUT WE SOLD OFF 85 BECAUSE THEY WERE OLD AND AT THE END OF THEIR RENTAL LIFESPAN. SO THE, THE EQUIPMENT IS JUST PHYSICALLY NOT THERE AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE SURPLUS SITTING ON THE LOT THAT THEY COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S YOU A DOZEN OF THESE OR A COUPLE OF THAT. HERE'S YOUR BIG GENERATOR. OKAY. THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS I STUCK MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY FAIR ASSOCIATION, CAUSE SAME THING'S HAPPENING THERE. AND UH, IF YOU CAN GET SOMEBODY TO BE HONEST WITH YOU IN FRONT OF PUBLIC, IT'S HARD JUICE. IT JUST DIDN'T WORK. THE SQUEEZE, THEY DIDN'T GET NOTHING. THEY DON'T GET WHAT THEY USED TO GET OUT OF IT. THEY DON'T GET THE PUBLICITY, THEY DON'T GET A PARKING PASS. THEY DON'T GET ANY TICKETS. WHERE'S THE WAY OFF. IT MAY BE SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED. AND WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS NOT PROBABLY REALLY POPULAR TO SAY, BUT IT'S, IT, IT LEANS MORE. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT VERSUS THE OTHER WAY. AND I CAN'T, I DON'T WANT WHAT A SPONSOR GET I WOULD SAY, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE DO A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TAKING CARE OF OUR SPONSORS WITH VIP PASSES, WITH ADMISSION TICKETS, WITH PARKING PASSES, UM, YOU KNOW, 30 DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT WOUND UP ON THE BACK OF YEAH. AND I'D LIKE SAID WENT JOY COUNTY, FAIR SOCIAL AND DROPPED THAT BALL COMPLETE. THEY JUST EXPECTED IT. CAUSE THE KNEE, THEN THE YOUNGER GENERATION IT TOOK OVER TOO. THEY JUST ALWAYS BEEN THERE. WELL, LET ME TELL YOU WHY THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE. YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO GET CHECKBOOK. THE OTHER MEMBERS BUILT IT. RIGHT. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M SURE Y'ALL DO. I DON'T KNOW, BUT JUST KIND OF CHECK THAT OUT AND MAKE SURE, HEY MAN, WHAT COULD I DO TO GET TO MORE GENERATORS? CAN YOU GET ME TWO MORE TICKETS, RIGHT? NO, ABSOLUTELY. IF IT, IF IT CAME TO A MATTER OF GIVING AWAY TICKETS, UM, MY STAFF GETS MAD AT ME ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I GET, I TRY TO GET EVERY DEAL. I CAN. I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST SAYING IT FROM A TRUTHFUL BUSINESS, RIGHT? NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. AND IT BUSINESSES DON'T HAVE AS MUCH LEEWAY AS THEY USED TO TIMES ARE TIGHTER FOR EVERYBODY WHERE IT USED TO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A BIG DEAL TO WRITE OFF, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR $6,000 OF EQUIPMENT THAT, THAT THAT'S A JOB OR THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A WEEK'S FUEL BILL OR SOMETHING. AND CHRISTMAS MOMENT, THERE YOU GO. ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS SPONSORS HAS TOLD US THAT BEFORE THAT WE HAVE GIVEN MOST AND THEY, THEY QUIT DONATING TO THE FAIR BECAUSE OF THAT SAME REASON. SO ANYWAY, ALL THAT STUFF HAPPENS KIND OF, FOR A REASON. I KNOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED. WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND WE DID THAT. WE'RE NOT CHANGING PEOPLE'S MENTALITY. WELL, I COULD TELL YOU THIS, BUT JUST FROM DEALING WITH IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY FOR 60 YEARS, THAT MOST OF THE MAJOR COMPANIES NOW HAVE BACK IN THE DAYS THAT THE MAJOR COMPANIES WILL RUN BY PRODUCTION PEOPLE. THEY WERE RAN BY PEOPLE THAT KNEW WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD AND THEY KNEW WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THE JOB DONE. THEY'RE RAN BY ACCOUNTANTS, UNDERSTAND IS THIS DOLLAR MINUS THAT DOLLAR EQUALS THIS. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL FACED WITH DOWN THERE. I MEAN, THE GUYS THAT ARE SITTING IN THOSE IVORY TOWERS AND THE THERE, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW OF SPUD RED FOR BOTH FROM A KRESSER RIDGE, NO, THE FURTHER YOU GET AWAY FROM THE WORK, THE MORE MONEY YOU MAKE, UH, THE FURTHER YOU GET AWAY FROM THE WORK, THE MORE MONEY YOU MAKE. YEAH. YEAH. [03:55:02] BUT IT'S A GOOD THING TO COMMUNITY WE'RE ON THE MAP PART. SO WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO MAKE, MAKE IT HAPPEN AND THEN NO, NO CHANGES OF NOTE AT ALL, REALLY IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. WELL, THE MAJOR THING THAT WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS THE STUFF THAT COMES OUT OF THIS PHONE IS FOR THE CITIZENS OF CLUE. AND IT'S FAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A CHANCE TO PAY BACK TO THEM WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THEM ON A DAILY BASIS. IT'S A LARGE-SCALE VIRGINIA. LIKE I SAID, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PARKS CONVERSATION, THAT OUR KIND OF MISSION IS TO PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT WHAT IT COSTS US TO PUT IT ON. SO IT'S AN AMENITY TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT COULDN'T AFFORD IT OR COULDN'T DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SUBSIDIZE IT AND KEEP IT LOW AND MAKE THOSE OFFERINGS. YEAH. OUR FISHES FIT UNDER THE CALL AT THE LEFT TO, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE SEGMENTS. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THIS PHONE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. YEP. I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL ARE FINDING ENTERTAINMENT FROM WHAT THE COST OF IT HAS GONE TO. I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW HOW FOR THE HAIR LIKE PHOTOS OF PEOPLE ENTERTAINMENT IS YEAH, IT'S RIDICULOUS. OH, WHAT THE, I GO BACK TO, I THINK LAST YEAR WE WERE LOOKING AT AN ARTIST AND I HONESTLY DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THE NAME. UM, AND PARENT GIVES THE PARENT IS R HE DOES THE SOUND AND PRODUCTION. ANY OF THEM, BOOKS, EVERYTHING FOR US EVERY YEAR, HE GIVES ME AN UPDATED LIST. IT'S ABOUT 30 PAGES LONG OF JUST ABOUT ANY SINGER ARTIST, BAND OR GROUP. YOU CAN THINK OF WHO THEY'RE, WHO THEY'RE REPRESENTED BY WHAT THEY COST FOR A PERFORMANCE. UM, THE PARTICULAR ARTISTS WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS LISTED ON HIS SHEET FOR $10,000, WHICH MEANT OVER THE LAST YEAR HE HAD BOOKED THEM OR WORKED WITH THEM FOR $10,000. WE MADE AN OFFER AT $10,000 TO HAVE THEM COME OUT AND SING. AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, THEY WOULDN'T TAKE ANYTHING LESS THAN A HUNDRED. THAT'S WHAT ONE YEAR AND MAYBE ONE HIT SONG OR ONE RADIO SONG GETS YOU. I REMEMBER IT WAS, IT WASN'T EVEN THE RADIO SONGS. IT WAS THE, UH, VIMEO HITS THAT THEY WERE GETTING. REMEMBER THEY WERE THE TOP THREE. I DON'T, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE LITERALLY LOOK AT HUNDREDS OF NAMES EVERY YEAR, BUT THAT, THAT JUST THE NUMBERS STUCK OUT FOR THAT ONE. CAUSE WE MADE AN OFFER BASED ON THE RATE SHEET THAT WE HAD AND THEY DECLINED IT SAYING THAT WE NEEDED TO ATTEND TIMES TO EVEN TALK TO THEM. NICK, WE DID THE OPEN AIR CONCERT. THERE'S THIS, THAT'S WHERE THE VENUES ARE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WHY I'M PRACTICING UP ON MY HARMONICA. SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA MAKE A BIG COMEBACK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET OUR PILLOWS AND GET READY FOR NAP TIME, WE WILL TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. HEY FOOD. THIS WHY YOU HAD A 65 DEGREES IN HERE TO KEEP IT THE WINDOW ON YOUR BACK. SO I WANT TO RUN THE RESTROOM REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL GET, GO AHEAD AND WALK. [04:00:13] UH, IT'S PRETTY QUICK. IT'S ADMIN ADMIN, YOU GUYS LEGAL, MUNICIPAL BEFORE PERMITS AND THEN TALK ABOUT NON-DEPARTMENTAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY, I THERE'S MAYBE TWO BIG TOPICS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND I WANTED TO, UH, HAVE ANGEL KIND OF COME, YOU KNOW, THE BIG IF, UH, THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BEEN ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, UM, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH, UH, LIKE AM I CAN SEE THEIR LICENSE ALLIANT. THANK YOU. UH, BUT I COULDN'T THINK OF THE NAMES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYWAY. UH, I'LL LET YOU KIND OF DETAIL WHERE WE'RE AT WITH HEALTH INSURANCE AND ALSO KIND OF WHAT YOU FOUND IN YOUR STUDIES ABOUT DEPARTURES. OKAY. UM, RIGHT NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS. UM, SO WHEN THEY FIRST, UH, WE HAD BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD. UM, WHEN OUR BROKERS GO OUT, THEY OF COURSE GO TO BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD TO SEE WHAT OUR RIGHT WOULD BE FOR THE COMING YEAR. UM, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR IT WAS 20. THEY STARTED OUT AT 22%, UH, INCREASE THIS YEAR, UH, WHEN THEY WENT TO AND THEY GOT IT DOWN THROUGH WORKING WITH BLUE CROSS, UM, TO 8% WHEN THEY SIT IN SEVEN AND A HALF WAS THE, UM, WELL, THEY GOT DOWN TO 8% LAST YEAR. THIS YEAR WITH OUR FIRST ASK TO BLUE CROSS BLUE CROSS CAME BACK IN AT 7.5. UM, SO THAT'S OUR WORST CASE SCENARIO, UM, IS ONLY A 7.5% INCREASE. UM, THEY DID GO. SO ONCE THEY DO THAT, THEN THEY GO OUT TO MARKET, UM, AND YOU KNOW, GO WITH, YOU KNOW, CHECK UNITED HEALTHCARE TML, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HUMANA, ALL THE DIFFERENT CARRIERS, THOSE NUMBERS WERE DUE BACK YESTERDAY TO ALLIANT, UM, WHERE THEY WILL TAKE THOSE NUMBERS, COMPILE THEM, SEE IF ANY PLAN IS BETTER THAN THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE. UM, AND THEN THEY'LL APPROACH BLUE CROSS AND SAY, LISTEN, THIS IS THE COMPETITIVE RATES. SO WE COULD SEE THAT 7.5 INCREASE DROP EVEN FURTHER. UH, THIS YEAR WE WILL KNOW THAT FOR PROBABLY ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO. UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE, UH, WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT WORST CASE WE'LL BASICALLY ONLY HAVE THE 7.5% INCREASE ON THE MEDICAL. SO WE WERE, I MEAN, WE, MOST OTHER, I WILL TELL YOU, I'M A PART OF THE HR GROUP, WHICH HAS ALL THE CITIES HERE IN TEXAS. AND MOST OF THEM ARE GETTING, UH, QUOTES OF LIKE 20,000 OR 20% INCREASE. SO WE HIGHLY ANTICIPATED THAT. UM, BUT YEAH, SO SEVEN AND A HALF IS JUST LIKE, YAY. UH, YES, YES SIR. YES, SIR. WE, WE HAD INITIALLY SCHEDULED THE FIRST SET OF NUMBERS THAT CAME OUT A FEW WEEKS BACK 15. WE WERE KIND OF USING THAT AS A BALLPARK. I'VE TALKED TO SHE'S HERE IN 20% OF TEXAS CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION. I KNOW ONE CITY, 74% INCREASE, WHICH JUST BLEW MY MIND. I HEARD OH MY GOD. I WAS LUCKY WE COULD CROSS DISTRICT BLUE JUST RENEWED US. YEAH. SO BCBS, I THINK HAD PROBABLY A BETTER PROGNOSTICATING MODEL THAN EVERYBODY CAUSE, UH, AND THEN I'VE GOT TWO FRIENDS THAT SIT ON THE BOARD AT TML, UH, INTERGOVERNMENTAL HEALTH POOL. AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 20 TO 25% ACROSS THE BOARD. YEAH. I WAS AVERAGING ACROSS ALL THE EMAILS, THAT KID, UH, SO, SO WE'RE OUR WORST CASES, SEVEN AND A HALF. SO WE FILL IT OUT. YEAH. SO, UH, AND HE EMAILED ME, HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY, BLUE CROSS IS BETTER. THEY SENT US A VISION QUOTE. AND IF WE GO WITH, IF WE ADDED RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE BLUE CROSS AND UH, MEDICAL AND DENTAL, AND NOW THEY'VE SENT US, YOU KNOW, CAME IN WITH A BETTER QUOTE FOR VISION. AND IF WE TAKE VISION, THEN WE GET A REDO, YOU KNOW, IT DROPS THAT SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT DOWN FURTHER. SO IF WE BUNDLE MORE WITH THEM, SO, UM, SO WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THEY GIVE US THE MARKET INFORMATION, UM, WHERE WE GO FORWARD. BUT RIGHT NOW WE, WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE A THOUSAND DOLLARS DEDUCTIBLE AND 80 20 PLAN. UM, THAT'S HARD TO GET OUT IN THE INDUSTRY AND STUFF. SO, UM, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE, UH, UH, A DECENT MEDICAL PLAN. SO, UM, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, LIKE, UH, WHEN JOHN WAS UP HERE, UM, W YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT [04:05:01] EMPLOYEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, UM, WE USED TO HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL. WHEN WE WOULD PUT AN ADS OUT FOR A REFUSE DRIVER OR A MAINTENANCE WORKER, WHATEVER WE ARE STRUGGLING TO EVEN GET ONE OR TWO RESUMES NOW. UM, SO I MEAN, AND I'VE TRIED, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT IN THE PAPER OF DONE WITH INDEED, UM, YOU KNOW, SENT OUT TO THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING PEOPLE APPLYING. AND THOSE THAT WE ARE GETTING APPLYING ARE FAR FROM BEING QUALIFIED. I WAS TRYING TO KEEP THE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS GOING, AND THEY HAVE A QUOTA. THEY HAVE TO MEET YOU EACH WEEK. YES. I GET PLENTY OF PHONE CALLS EACH WEEK, JUST CHECKING. YEAH. DRIVERS WANTING TO BE AN INSURANCE. SO, AND HE IS VERY TRUE. HE DOES, UH, FIXING TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS OF, OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE ONE, BUT WE HAVE 6% OF OUR STAFF HAS BEEN HERE OVER 20 YEARS. MOST OF THOSE THAT 6% ARE HIS DRIVERS THAT ARE, ARE WITHIN RETIREMENT IN A YEAR OR TWO. UM, SO WE'VE STRUGGLED PROBABLY THE LAST SIX MONTHS, TRYING TO HIRE AN OPEN POSITION FOR A REFUSE DRIVER THAT HE HAS. WE'RE GOING TO, WE FEEL LIKE IN A YEAR OR TWO, WE'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE EVEN MORE TO FILL THE ONES THAT ARE RETIRING. SO, BUT YOU CAN'T BLAME THEM. THEY'D BEEN HERE 30 YEARS, SO THEY'RE READY. SO, UM, BUT JUST TO KIND OF GET OVERALL, 6% OF OUR STAFF HAS BEEN HERE OVER 20 YEARS. 21% HAS BEEN HERE OVER 10 YEARS. 36 HAVE BEEN HERE OVER FIVE YEARS, BUT 60% OF OUR STAFF HAVE BEEN HERE LESS THAN FIVE YEARS, OR ACTUALLY LESS THAN FOUR YEARS. SO THAT TELLS YOU OVER HALF OF OUR STAFF IS FAIRLY NEW. UH, 31% 31% HAS BEEN HERE LESS THAN TWO YEARS, AND 10% HAVE BEEN HERE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS. AND WE HAVE 97 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. SO OF, YOU KNOW, 10% OF THOSE HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS. SO WE, IT IS REAL IMPORTANT TO KEEP UP LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MERIT INCREASES THE COST OF LIVING BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE FIGHTING AGAINST THE INDUSTRY HERE, BUT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE CITYWIDE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, CITIES ARE HAVING, UM, PROBLEMS, $64,000 QUESTION, HOW MANY OF THOSE 60% OR REALLY DEDICATED AT BOYS AND HOW WE'RE JUST PLACE ON PRE WELL, OKAY. SO OF THAT 37%, UH, SO JUST SINCE I'VE BEEN TRACKING, WHEN I MOVED OVER TO HR, SO AT THE BEGINNING OF 2016, WE'VE LOST 67 EMPLOYEES OF THOSE 67 37 HAVE LEFT FOR MORE MONEY AT OTHER TO OTHER JOBS. UH, 6% HAS RETIRED. UM, 28% IS BECAUSE WE CHOSE THEM TO, TO LEAVE. UH, AND THEN 29%, THAT IS THE OTHER. AND THAT'S WHERE LIKE, STAY AT HOME MOMS OR, UM, THEY COULDN'T THE JOB, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DISPATCHERS IS, IS A HARD POSITION. THEY JUST COULDN'T HANDLE THE, THE DUTIES OF THE JOB AND, AND THAT, SO THEY LEFT. SO, SO THERE, THAT'S KIND OF THE OTHER CATEGORY. UM, SO OF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TOO, BUT, UM, WE LOSE, YOU KNOW, 37, ALMOST 40% TO PEOPLE GOING ELSEWHERE. AND A LOT OF THAT TOO, IS TO OTHER CITIES THAT PAY BETTER THAN WE DO. SO, ANY QUESTION I KNOW, RIGHT? NO, CAUSE WE GOTTA, STILL CONSTANTLY GET THINGS, GET THE WORD OUT THERE TO GET PEOPLE HERE. SO, UM, THE LIKE, UH, AS FAR AS LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO EMPLOYEES, LIKE WHAT'S THE BENEFITS PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, THE INSURANCE SOUNDS GREAT. SO WE OFFER, AND THAT'S THE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GENERATIONAL DISCONNECT THAT IS, THAT IS OCCURRING. AND THAT WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO PREACH WITH EVEN SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE MIDDLE AGE RANGE, THE VALUE OF THE BENEFITS PACKAGE ABOVE JUST THE SALARY NUMBER, BECAUSE WE OFFER AN AMAZING BENEFITS PACKAGE. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE HEALTH INSURANCE, THE RETIREMENT, SO YOU HAD YOUR PENSION, AND THEN WE ALSO OFFER AN OPTIONAL 4 57, 7 K [04:10:01] PROGRAM PROGRAM THAT'S THEY CAN PUT MONEY INTO, UH, THAT'S YIELDING ON TOP OF THAT, THE TIME OFF THAT WE, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, YOU ACCRUE, IF YOU'RE HERE FIVE YEARS, IT'S THREE WEEKS VACATION, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE. PLUS YOUR HOLIDAYS TO WORKING HERE THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP AS A BOTTOM LINE NUMBER FOR THEM. WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT JUST DON'T, THEY DON'T SEE IT. AND ALL THEY SEE IS THE BOTTOM LINE. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, IN CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS IS THEY COME IN AND THEY THINK THEY AUTOMATICALLY SHOULD BE THE SUPERVISOR. UM, AND YOU'RE LIKE, NO, THERE'S SOME PEPPERING AND SOME SEASONING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT POINT. AND THEN THEY GET FRUSTRATED AND WELL, I'M GOING TO GO FIND A GREENER PASTURE THAT I'M MAKING MORE MONEY AND THINK I'VE GOT A FAT TO CRACK. AND SO WE'VE TRIED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO SELL THEM ON THAT IDEA. WE ANGEL DOES AN AMAZING JOB. IF YOU COME FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT, THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE OUTSIDE VENDORS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE VARIOUS BENEFITS PLUS ON TOP OF WHAT WE WANT TO GIVE. UH, SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A ROBUST, UH, A VERY ROBUST BENEFITS PACKAGE THAT WE OFFER FOLKS. IT'S GETTING THEM TO SEE THAT INTRINSIC VALUE. AND I DON'T KNOW, WE, I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING IT. WE HAD ONE STAFF THAT WANTED TO TAKE HIS RETIREMENT BECAUSE HE HAD MADE SOME INTERESTING FINANCIAL CHOICES. AND, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP HIM THROUGH THAT. SO HE WASN'T HAVING TO NAVIGATE THAT AND DO TAKE THAT DRASTIC OF A STEP. BUT IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY A CHALLENGE COMMUNICATING. CAUSE I THINK WHEN WE ADDED UP, TYPICALLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOTAL NET, UH, EXPENDITURE IS PROBABLY ALMOST 40% BENEFIT RATIO TO SALARY. SO IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, YOU'RE DOING A REALLY, YOU, YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF BANG FOR YOUR BUCK BETWEEN THE HEALTHCARE, THE RETIREMENT. UH, AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS THAT, LIKE I SAID, THE TYPE OF PTO THAT WE OFFER THAT WE PROVIDE. SO I THINK IT'S A VERY GENEROUS PACKAGE. JUST GETTING THEM TO SEE THAT VALUE. THEY DON'T SEE IT ON THEIR W2, SO THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AT THE END OF THE LINE, THAT'S IT THAT'S I KNOW THAT I'VE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE RETIRED FROM LIKE, SO OF FREQUENT WAR, EVEN MS HAFTAR AND CHIEF WORKER, THOSE GUYS THAT WERE TIRED, IT WAS ALMOST ALMOST WHAT THEY WERE MAKING HERE. AND ONE OF THE CITY, SECRETARY OF FREEPORT, SHE TOLD GARY THAT HER RETIREMENT WAS BORE. THE WHOOPS, SHE WAS BIKING. WE HAD TWO THAT LEFT HIM PARKS, WHO SAID THEY WERE MAKING MORE ON RETIREMENT THAN THEY WERE. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYED. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU RELAY THAT THOUGH. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THE HARD PART IS TRYING TO GET, CAUSE WE HAD ONE THAT WAS WITH HE BEST WHEN HE TRIED, HE WAS JUST SHORT OF BREATH. HE WAS BESTED. I THINK SO. YEAH. SO WE'VE HAD FOLKS THAT WERE VESTED TRYING TO LEAVE BEFORE THEY MET THEIR MAX TIME. IT JUST, THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. WE, WE WRAP OURSELVES IN THE TYRANNY OF THE NOW AND DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE. SO HOW LONG UNTIL THEY'RE VESTED FIVE YEARS, FIVE YEARS. AND THEN, UH, THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET UP IS 20 YEARS OF SERVICE, UH, PAYING INTO TMRMS MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE. YOU USUALLY HIT THAT MAX BENEFIT BETWEEN 25 AND 28. SO I HIT MY 21ST YEAR THIS YEAR. UM, AND IT WAS LIKE A HUGE RELIEF KNOWING THAT SOMEDAY I WILL BE ABLE TO RETIRE. NOT UNTIL I THINK NOT SOON, NO, NO, NO. GOT KATHLEEN IS GOING INTO FIFTH GRADE. SO I'VE GOT AT LEAST LIKE 12 MORE YEARS UNTIL SHE GETS OUT OF SCHOOL AND OFF THE PAYROLL. BUT, UH, BUT NO, THAT'S THAT'S THE, THE REALITY IS, IS IF YOU START YOUNG, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THESE YOUNG OFFICERS AND SOME OF THESE YOUNG GUYS AND THEY CAN RETIRE AT 45 AND 50 AND GO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WITH A REALLY NICE NEST EGG AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. AND SO I TALKED, UH, THIS PAST YEAR, UH, WE DID, I THINK JAMES IS GOING TO, THERE SHOULD BE LIKE A FREQUENT FLYER THING FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT ACADEMIES HE'S HIT AND ALL THE DIFFERENT JOB FAIRS WE'VE GONE TO. UH, I ACTUALLY DID A VIRTUAL JOB, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VIRTUAL JOB FAIRS, ONE FOR A UNIVERSITY UP IN ARKANSAS, ONE FOR, UH, LCIS D DID ONE FOR ALL OF THEIR RISING SENIORS, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE, THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF WORKING FOR A CITY AND ALL THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH IT. AND I WAS ACTUALLY SHOCKED. WE HAD ONE KID, UH, OUT OF ALL THOSE. AND I THINK I TALKED TO 400 DURING THE COURSE OF THAT DAY. ONE KID WAS LIKE, WELL, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A GARBAGE MAN AND YOUR BENEFITS SOUND GOOD. SO HE'S NOT OF AGE. AND HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS CDL, BUT HE PROMISED ME WHEN HE GOT THE TO 18 AND WAS ELIGIBLE TO GET HIS CDL, HE WOULD HIT US UP. SO WE'LL SEE IF THAT ACTUALLY FALLS RIGHT BACK, HIS NAME WRITTEN DOWN. SO, BUT YOU NEVER EVER KNOW, BUT YET IT'S VERY STRANGE. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE KIDS WERE, WELL, HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY? AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, IS DO I GET THE, YOU KNOW, CARRY AN AR AND WE'RE [04:15:01] A PLATE IF I'M A COP AND I'M LIKE, NO, YOU DON'T DO THOSE THINGS EVERYDAY. SOME DAYS. HOPEFULLY NOT. YEAH. WELL, WHEN YOU LIVE IN FOR NOW, YEAH. YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING AROUND IN THE CRAZY. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LAWN. THEY DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT NEXT MONTH. THEY JUST CARE ABOUT, I PICK AT THEM ALL THE TIME. I TELL HIM, HE SAID, JEFF, YOU JUST GOT LIVE FOR TODAY. AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, DO YOU OWN AN ALARM CLOCK? YEAH. WOW. YOU JUST LIVE IT FOR TODAY AND EVERY NOW AND THEN THEY'LL STOP THING FOR JUST A MINUTE. OKAY. IT WAS DOLLAR JUST LIVING FOR TODAY. THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT SAVINGS AND BENEFITS AND I'LL GET MY GUYS HEALTH INSURANCE NITRO. THEY HAD $50 RAISE INSTEAD OF THIS $600, $700 A MONTH INSURANCE PLAN. I GAVE HIM. BUT ANYWAY, THEY'LL ONE OF THEM. I SAID, DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN HER DESK, YOUNG ALARM CLOCK. YEAH. I SAID, WHAT YOU'RE JUST LIVING FOR TODAY. IT'S GOING TO ONLY GET ROUGH. NO, IT IS BECAUSE THEY ALL WANT TO BE INFLUENCERS. THAT'S YOU ASK EVERY KID WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THEY WANT TO BE ON YOUTUBE OR TIK TOK. AND THINK THAT THAT'S HOW YOU WRAP STORE NOW. YEAH, IT DOES. IT DOES. IT'S REALLY STRANGE. ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE. SO NOW THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER DONE IT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU DON'T KNOW THE FUN THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HASN'T WELL, AS YOU KNOW, OUR BIG AD AND WE'RE EVER SO GRATEFUL WAS GETTING LANDED ON BOARD THIS YEAR. HE HAS MADE EVERYBODY'S LIFE SO MUCH BETTER. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE HIS LIFE ANY BETTER AT ALL, BUT, UH, AND HE'S STILL GOT HAIR SOMEHOW. SO THAT'S BUT HE'S DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF LET HIM TELL YOU ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT PROJECTS AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IN THIS NEXT YEAR. UM, WELL, UH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING? WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I'VE BEEN PUTTING ON A LOT OF FIRES. SO, UM, AND TO THAT END, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CJ AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT WHEN I STARTED WAS WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PLAN TO HAVE LESS WIRES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARDS AND IT'S IN THE BUDGET IS UP UNTIL THIS POINT, UNLESS THE COMPUTER WAS PRETTY MUCH DEAD AND NO ONE CALLED IT IN AND NO ONE DID ANYTHING. THEY JUST SAID, HEY, LIKE YOU'RE DEAD. IT'S PUTS THEM OUT OF WORK FOR A DAY OR THREE, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG SHIPPING IS AND WHAT PARTS ARE AVAILABLE. MOST OF THE COMPUTERS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, IF THEY'RE NOT A LAPTOP OR CUSTOM DONE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN GO GET ANOTHER HB, PUT IT IN ITS PLACE. UM, SO WHAT, WHAT I HAD PROPOSED, AND IF YOU LOOK TO THE BUDGET ON THIS STUFF IS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE COMPUTERS THAT ARE THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE MADE BY INTEL. THEY'RE SMALL. THEY'RE ABOUT THIS BIG, THEY MOUNT ON THE BACK OF A, OF A MONITOR. UM, AND BASICALLY, UH, MY THOUGHT ON IT IS WE MOVED YOU GUYS, COMPUTER SYSTEMS TO A FOUR TO FIVE YEAR ROTATION, UM, GET THE OLDER MACHINES OUT. WE'VE GOT SOME THAT PLANNED ABOUT REPLACING THAT, THAT WHEN I HAD TO REPLACE PARTS, THEY'RE EIGHT NINE-YEAR-OLD PARKS THAT ARE IN NUMBER TEN-YEAR-OLD PARTS. AND THAT'S JUST NOT A GOOD THING FOR COMPUTERS. YOUR AVERAGE LIFETIME ON YOUR HARD DRIVE STARTS TO GO DOWNHILL ABOUT FIVE YEARS. YEAH. SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THAT GAME AND MAKE IT SO FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, IF YOU'VE GOT A PC THIS YEAR OR FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, YOU SHOULD BE GETTING A NEW PC. SO IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FIRES. IF YOUR COMPUTER IS GOING TO CRASH, IT WILL CRASH AS YOU KNOW, AFTER IT'S ALREADY OUT OF SERVICE. UH, SO THAT'S OUR MAJOR GOAL ON THAT ONE. UH, SECOND THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE NEEDED TO LOOK INTO WAS, UH, DURING, I GUESS THE LAST HURRICANE, UH, THAT WE HAD A, BASICALLY A NETWORK OUTAGE BECAUSE WE HAVE FIBER RAM BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. WELL, THAT'S WELL AND GOOD, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE FIBER GOES OUT, ALL OF OUR DATA IS STORED AT EMS. UM, SO THIS BUILDING HAD NO CONNECTION TO ANY DATA, EVEN THOUGH THAT THE CENTER FOR DEALING WITH ANYTHING. UM, SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AND WORKED ON WAS A WIRELESS BASICALLY CITY, CITY INFRASTRUCTURE BACKBONE THAT WORKS AS A REDUNDANT NETWORK. UH, IT WOULD BE BASED OFF OF THE WATER TOWER AND IT WILL BEAM, UH, DATA DIRECTLY FROM EMS TO DISTRIBUTED POINTS ON ALL THE CITY BUILDINGS. WE'RE GETTING THE PARTS IN PORT. I'VE GOT ALMOST ALL OF THEM THAT I'M STILL, UH, CHIP MANUFACTURERS ARE STILL SLOW EVEN IN MY FIELD. SO WAIT, NO PARTS. YEAH. OH, SORRY. GOOD TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE IMPACT THERE. UH, PARKS HAS ALWAYS OPERATED ON A, [04:20:01] BASICALLY A DSL, A GLORIFIED DSL SYSTEM ON AT AND T AND AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN SCHOOL GETS OUT, IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THE PHONES OVER THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO INTERNET CONNECTIVITY ON THAT END OF THE LINE PERIOD, THERE'S NO INTEROPERABILITY. SO THEY WERE LITERALLY HANDWRITING THEIR DAILY RECEIPTS AND THEN COMING OVER AND RECONCILING THEM AND ENTERING THEM IN SO THAT CHRIS AND THEM CAN RECONCILE AND MAKE SURE THAT DAILY POSITS ARE TAKEN CARE OF THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO FULLY INTEGRATE. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE DATA. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE THEIR SYSTEMS AND BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE ALL THAT. WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT, HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST US TO LIVE THEM IN? IF WE WERE DOING IT VIA FIBER, WE'RE TALKING 40 OR $50,000, THIS TOTAL INVESTMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BROADCAST WIFI TO THE PARK AND PUBLIC HERE ACTUALLY BEYOND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS YOUR INTERNET FOR FREE. IF YOU GUYS LIVE IN THE PAT, UM, JUST DON'T GO ANYWHERE WEIRD. UM, AS LONG AS THE DEVICE. WELL, THAT'S TRUE. AS LONG AS THAT'S TRUE, NEVERMIND, NOT OVER PROMISING, BUT SO WE LOOKED AT ABOUT A 40 OR $50,000 SYSTEM AND LANDED, SECURED US A SOLUTION THAT RUNS THE UNDER $3,000. UM, THE ONLY THING IS, IS THAT WE HAD TO PUT TOGETHER, WHICH I HAVE EXPERIENCED DOING. SO WE JUST HAVE TO GET THEM IN TO GET THE PARTS IN MOUNTED AND GET DEPLOYED, WHICH IS JUST POINTING DISHES AT EACH OTHER. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING UP ON THE WATER TOWER GUY. SO, UM, AND THAT WILL, LIKE I SAID, LIKE HE SAID, IT EXPANDS, WE DIDN'T HAVE FIVERR DIRECT FIBER CONNECTION TO THE PARK SIS SYSTEMS. THIS WILL GIVE US A DIRECT WIRELESS CONNECTION TO THEIR SYSTEM, UH, ON TOP OF BEING A REDUNDANT POORER, IF OUR FIBER WERE TO GO OUT. SO, UM, MAJOR SYSTEM BACKBONE UPGRADE, I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OTHER MINOR ONES THAT WE'VE GOT COMING UP THAT, UH, THE EMS BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE A VIDEO CAMERA SECURITY SYSTEM AT ALL, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO WHAT I PROPOSED AND I'VE, I'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TO THIS STEP FORWARD IN THERE, UH, IS A, UH, IP CAMERA SYSTEM. IT WILL, WE CAN MOUNT IT. WE CAN RUN THE, WE CAN HAVE FOR THE CABLES RUN, I CAN MOUNT IT AND COORDINATE IT AND ALLOW US TO HAVE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE THAT CAN BE USED HERE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. UH, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT COURTS, UH, TO DO THE SAME THING. USING THE SAME SOFTWARE WILL ALLOW A STANDARDIZATION OF VIDEO CAMERA SOFTWARE. SO FOR INSTANCE, SECURITY PURPOSES ALLOWS THE DISPATCHERS QUICKER RESPONSE TIME TO THIS AND SAY, OKAY, HOW DO I USE THIS ONE? NOW, THIS IS JUST WHAT WE USED TO CALL EMS. WE CALL COURT. WE JUST GO TO, AND TO KIND OF GIVE COUNCIL AN IDEA RIGHT NOW. CURRENTLY WHAT WE HAVE IS KIND OF A HODGEPODGE PARKS HAS ONE SYSTEM THAT GOES TO A DVR, I THINK WILL AN ANGEL CAN ACCESS IT REMOTELY. WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THE CAMERAS IN THIS BUILDING GO TO OR WHO CAN ACCESS THEM. I DON'T KNOW. I HOPE THEY ENJOY ME WATCHING, YOU KNOW, SCRATCH MY BUTT. WHEN I WALK OUT OF HERE IN THE EVENINGS. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S VERY, VERY STRANGE. UH, IT DOES GO TO EMS. THERE'S ONE COMPUTER OVER THERE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT SAID THERE'S ONE HARD DRIVE THAT IT RUNS TO, BUT THERE'S NO REAL TIME MONITORING ON IT OR ANYTHING. UM, IT'S JUST, AND THEN THE QUALITY OF THE CAMERAS IS PRETTY CRAZY TOO. SO WE'RE GETTING UNIFORM AND ON TRACK, UH, SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK THREATS OR TRACK, NOT THREATS NECESSARILY, BUT ALSO SEE WHAT'S COMING AND GOING. I WILL SAY WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PERSONNEL OR PERSONAL, UH, ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN FROM FOLKS THAT ARE DISGRUNTLED AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PROMPTED THE MOVE TOWARDS MORE CAMERAS. AND THEN ONE, UH, ANOTHER RATIO THAT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP WAS THE MOVING THE POLICE SYSTEMS, SEPARATE CYBER, GETTING THEM FROM OUR REGULAR SYSTEMS INTO, UH, HERE, SO THAT THEY WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE, WHICH I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST PICKING UP A COMPUTER AND MOVING INTO A NEW PLACE. BUT WHEN YOU TAKE A SERVER AND YOU'VE MOVED IN THINGS THAT DON'T ALWAYS JUST HAPPEN, THEY, UH, TEND TO CHANGE, UH, SOME SETTINGS AND WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE AS WE'RE COMING UP TO DO THAT. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE MOVING AWAY TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM, UH, WAITING TIL THINGS DIE. UH, WE HAVE SOME VERY OLD NETWORKS, WHICH IS, UH, THAT, THAT AREN'T EVEN MANUFACTURED ANYMORE. ABOUT THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN GET TO THAT WE NEEDED AN EMERGENCY REPLACEMENT WOULD BE EBITDA. UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THOSE INTO ANY MORE MODERN, HEY, THESE ARE STILL BEING MANUFACTURED. LET'S USE THESE INSTEAD, SO WE CAN DO IT MORE PLUG AND PLAY, PUT SPLIT, SWAP SITUATION. SO I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? W WHAT [04:25:01] ARE WE DOING ON LIKE CYBER SECURITY THREATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW ARE WE'RE RUNNING A, BASICALLY A MULTI-LAYER FIREWALL THROUGH SONIC WALL THAT MONITORS AND UPDATES ITSELF THROUGH THE SONICWALL COMPANY. AND IT BRINGS DOWN IT'S ALL UPDATES, UH, ON A, ALMOST A WEEKLY BASIS THEY'RE UPDATING THEM. SO WE, AND THEN, UH, WE WILL BE, UH, IT HAS A LOG IN, AT THE, DOES THAT NOTIFIES ME OF ATTEMPTED THREATS OR POTENTIAL THREATS, WHICH MOST POTENTIAL THREATS ARE JUST SOME KID THAT'S LEARNED HOW TO SCAN A NETWORK OR SCAN THE INTERNET AND SAY, WELL, I FOUND, OH, YEAH, THAT'S COOL. YEAH. UH, AND THEN IT HELPED ME IDENTIFY WHERE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY COMING FROM LIKE CHINA OR COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES WOULD COME FROM, NO, WE JUST RENEWED OR IN THE PROCESS OF RENEWING AS PART OF OUR LIBRARY, THE INSURANCE. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT, UH, OUR CYBER SECURITY INSURANCE AND COVERAGE. UH, AND WE DO THAT THROUGH TML RISK POOL. THEY'VE INCREASED AND ENHANCED THEIR, UH, PROGRAM FOR WHAT THEY WILL, WHAT THEY REQUIRE IN ORDER FOR US TO GAIN THAT COVERAGE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE READ OUT AND MAKE A FEW CHANGES, UH, TO OUR PROFILE. UM, BUT YOU, AS THE END USER, PROBABLY WON'T NOTICE MOST OF IT EXCEPT YOU WILL. WE DO. THEY DO REQUIRE US TO DO SOME, I GUESS, DRY FIRE DRILLS, WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET WEIRD EMAILS WITH SUSPICIOUS PACKAGES ATTACHED TO IT. AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT, IF YOU CLICK ON IT, YOU'LL GET A BOOT. SO, YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. LIKE, UH, WE, WE DON'T EVER DO LIKE TESTS EMAILS, OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT COMES, W W WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN DOING THAT. THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS. UH, SO YEAH, THAT THAT'S, UH, WE, WE GET ENOUGH FOR THE REAL DEAL. HAVEN'T HAD THE HABIT TESTING. I GOTTA SAY, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE GREAT ABOUT NOT CLICKING THOSE THINGS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, NOT CLICKING THOSE THINGS AND SENDING THEM TO US AND SAYING THE MAYOR SEEMS TO BE A PRODUCT TARGET. CAUSE I GUESS THE MAYOR'S IN FRONT OF THEM, HE GETS WEIRD STUFF FROM ALL OVER THE PLANET. IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT HALFWAY AND BE LEGIT ALL THE TIME WE SENT IT OFF. AND, BUT YEAH, YOU WERE GOING TO START THAT PROCESS BECAUSE YOU WILL, WE, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTIVE TRAINER AND AN ACTIVE MONITORING BY THAT. OKAY. ARE WE READY TO NOW, NOW IT'S NAP TIME, SIR. UH, GENERAL ADMINISTRATION, BASICALLY EVERYTHING HAS STAYED ROUGHLY THE SAME. I DID INCREASE THE TRAINING DOLLARS TO REFLECT, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL EDUCATION AND ALSO, UH, PUTTING LANDED IN THIS DEPARTMENT, UH, GET HIM LINED OUT WITH A TAG OF IT, WHICH IS THE X'S ASSOCIATION OF IT, GOVERNMENTAL ID, SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT MANAGERS. UM, BUT BASICALLY TO ENHANCE THAT TRAINING AND WHAT TALK ABOUT CYBERSECURITY COORDINATION ACROSS THE BOARD, LOOKING FORWARD INTO, UH, INTO THE EXPANDED THE GENERAL EXPENDITURES. UH, AGAIN, A LOT OF STUFF HAS STAYED THE SAME, THE INCREASE ON THE CONTRACT SERVICES. WE DO INCLUDE THE, UH, LIVABLE CENTERS, STUDY COMMITMENT, UH, SHOWS BACK UP IN THERE. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, AND IT'S ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET, WE WON'T BE DOING THIS THIS WAY. UH, WE'VE ENGAGED A GROUP CALLED CLEAR GOV AND WE WILL STILL HAVE OUR WORKSHOP, BUT THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT CLEAR GOV IS RIGHT NOW, IF MY LAPTOP DIES, LIKE IT TRIED TO THREE TIMES OVER THE LAST FOUR DAYS, UM, WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND HOPE THAT HE CAN RECOVER MY WORK AND I HAVE TO SAVE IT TO P DRIVE VERY FREQUENTLY. UH, THIS IS AN ONLINE CLOUD-BASED PLATFORM. EVERYBODY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PASSWORD. YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO GO IN IN REAL TIME AND WATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING. WHAT'S CHANGING IN THE BUDGET, MAKE NOTES AND SEND THOSE NOTES IN, IN REAL TIME. AND IT WILL PREPARE THE ENTIRE BUDGET BOOK FOR US. SO BASICALLY WE GIVE IT THE, THE, THE, THE BASE NARRATIVE. IT FILLS IN THE BLANKS FOR US. IT PUTS EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN A PACKAGE THAT IS ALREADY GFA RATED. SO IT GETS SENT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR CLEARANCE, UH, AUTOMATICALLY. AND, UH, ALL OF THAT HAS MADE TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY CAN TRACK EVERYTHING IN REAL TIME. SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET THAT STARTED. WE JUST DID THE FIRST UPLOADED DATA TWO DAYS OR TWO WEEKS AGO, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THEY'RE CLEARING THAT NOW. AND THEN WHAT THEY WILL DO IS RETURN THAT BACK TO US. SO NEXT BEGINNING OF OCTOBER, WE'LL START COMPILING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IN THAT SYSTEM. AND WE'RE FEELING REALLY EXCITED TO GET THAT LAUNCHED. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG CHANGE ON THIS SIDE. DO WE NETWORK OFF OF A VPN WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH ANY TYPE OF DATA WE DO INTERNALLY? WE DO. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY CHANGING THAT PROCESS UP RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING SONIC WALL AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OVER TO, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE USING. YOU ARE GOING TO BE MOVING TOO, BECAUSE ON TOP OF THAT, THE POLICE WILL MIRADOR AS MERGED WITH, TO MY PC. UH, AND ONE OF [04:30:01] THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS WE CAN MOVE TO USING, GO TO MY PC FOR, FOR LIKE HIS SITUATION SINCE HE'S WORKING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AND, UH, ON THE, ON THE, AT HOME, ON A LOT OF STUFF. SO I'D ALREADY RECOMMENDED DOING THAT. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA BE DOING. WE WILL ALLOW US TO SECURE OUR DATA WITHIN THE HERE AND YOU'LL LOG IN AND USE A TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION TO DO THAT, WHICH PROTECTS THE DATA, UM, BY MAKING SO BEING CAN'T LOG IN WITHOUT HIS APPLICATION CODE. YEP. SO NOW IT'S, SINGLE-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION RIGHT NOW ON AN OLDER PIPE, AND IT'S SLOWER THAN SERVE ON CALL PLATE. SO WHERE THAT IT'D BE MY LAPTOP, BUT MOVE IT INTO LEGISLATIVE AND LEGAL. MOST, EVERYTHING HAS STAYED THE SAME HERE. UM, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DO HAVE AN ELECTION EXPENSE RELATED TO THE CHARTER, AND I WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH ON TRYING TO, WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT. THE OTHER NIGHT COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR A CHARTER REWRITE, IF YOU'LL RECALL BACK IN 2020, THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HOLD AN ELECTION WHERE 15 PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ELECTED TO SERVE ON A CHARTER COMMISSION. WE FELT LIKE THE ODDS OF THAT HAPPENING, GIVEN THE TURNOUT, JUST FOR PARKS COMMISSION, THAT'S A LOT LESS WORK INTENSIVE WAS PROBABLY SLIM TO NONE GO. WE'RE GOING TO TRY, AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT LIKE ALVIN DID IT A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT AFTER TALKING TO THEIR CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, WHY THEY DID IT THAT WAY, IT'S THE SAME REASON WE'RE HAVING TO DO IT THIS WAY. WE'RE GOING TO AMEND OURS TO DEATH. UM, SO JUST BE THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE DID THE WAY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT. SO, BUT WE INCLUDE THOSE EXPENSES IN HERE. UH, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEGAL LINE ITEM, THE SPECIAL ATTORNEY FEES ARE UP A LITTLE BIT. UM, WE HAVE THE LITIGATION THAT WE WILL BE LAUNCHING IN RELATION TO, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO ANTICIPATING LITIGATION WITH, UH, WASTE CONNECTIONS OVER THE FRANCHISE FEE SITUATION. SO, UM, I KNOW MR. CRISP, YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT THE OTHER NIGHT. UH, THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT THEIR TOKEN OFFERING IS MORE THAN JUST AN ADEQUATE AND WE TOTALLY DISAGREE. WELL, I GOT MY FIVE EMAILS LAST NIGHT FROM, FROM THE, UH, APPRAISAL BOARD. OH, DID YOU? I DID. I THINK I CAN'T TAKE WHAT THEY OFFERED OR REPHRASE IT. I'D RATHER NOT TAKE WHAT THEY OFFER. SO I THINK I STILL WANT A FACE TO FACE TO FACE. YEAH, I GUESS THAT MEANS THEY'RE EITHER SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS TO, WELL, I WAS JUST TELLING CHRIS, WE HAVE A FORM THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S OFFICE BY THE 15TH. I SENT IT IN YESTERDAY AFTER TRIPLE CHECKING IT, IT GOT KICKED BACK. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEIR SERVERS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF EMAIL GOING BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, BUT SOMETHING'S GOING ON THERE. SO ANYWAY, MUNICIPAL COURT, BASICALLY EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME. THERE WE ARE, UH, PURCHASING A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE FOR THE EXPLORER, UM, THAT HAS PROBABLY SPENT MORE TIME IN THE SHOP. THIS IS LAST YEAR, THEN IT HAS ON THE ROAD HAS BEEN A REAL POS, BUT, UH, IT'S THERE, IT'S ALIVE. IT'S KICKING OTHERWISE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME, UH, BUILDING SERVICES. UH, IF YOU GUYS, I'M GOING TO BRING CHEERIO, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, BY THE WAY. NOW JERRY IS, UH, HE'S TRIED TO BEAT ME. I'VE HAD THE HIDE FROM HIM SEVERAL TIMES UNDERNEATH MY DESK NOW. WELL, HE'S MADE AN ASK OR HE DID MAKE AN ASK FOR TWO ADDITIONAL STAFF, ONE FOR FIELD, ONE FOR CLERICAL, UM, IN THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A HALFTIME CLERICAL POSITION, MAKE IT EASY TO HELP FULL-TIME HE BELIEVES HE, I KNOW HE NEEDS TO HELP IN THE FIELD AS WE LOOK TOWARDS THE TRANSITION, ALTHOUGH IT'S SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS WITH THE TRAINING, THAT'S A LONG TIME. SO HE PROMISED 10 YEARS WHEN HE CAME ON BOARD. SO, UH, AND HOLD THEM TO IT. UH, BUT THAT IS THE MAIN ASK. THE OTHER ASK IS THAT HE'S, UH, THE TRUCK THAT HE'S DRIVING, I THINK IS A 2011 MODEL AND THE AC WORKS IN IT ABOUT A THIRD OF THE TIME. SO, UH, THAT, AND COMBINED WITH SOME BRAKE ISSUES, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME FOR REPLACEMENT. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAND THAT ONE DOWN TO THE FARMER'S OFFICE AS WELL. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL LET YOU GUYS ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR HIM AS AGAIN, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE REVENUE MODELS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO STAND PAT, I THINK, WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, AND ANY QUESTIONS FOR JERRY, I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT HE, UH, HE BUSTED, YOU KNOW, WHAT, EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND IT'S REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB OF TURNING THE FACILITIES AROUND AND GETTING US BACK IN SHAPE. SO, YEAH, AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS, UH, UM, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND I KNOW YOU'RE WANTING TO RETIRE SOON. SO, [04:35:01] UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO, I MEAN, SOON FIND SOMEONE THAT YOU CAN TRAIN. CAUSE I MEAN, YOU'RE A HUGE ASSET TO THE CITY. SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT ALMOST 10 YEARS. MY GOAL IS TO GET SOMEONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO WORK WITH ME, TO HELP ME OUT IN THE FIELD. I AIN'T THING IS LIKE SAVED. I SAID, I ASKED HER THE SECOND HELP IN THE OFFICE AND IT'S DIRE, MAN, WHEN WILL BE HAVING A BABY COME NOVEMBER, THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN IN THAT OFFICE. IN THERE. YOU DON'T JUST WALK IN THERE AND PUSH A BUTTON, GOT MAGIC. AND IT HAPPENS. YOU GOT TO KNOW WHAT YOU TELL THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME UP THAT WINDOW UP THERE SERVING THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN OF MY HEART. AND IT'LL ALWAYS BE SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY IS I'M PUTTING MY PETITION FOR THAT OFFICE HELD NOW FULL-TIME SO WE HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON THAT'S COME AND JOINED US. SHE'S PERFORMED EXCELLENTLY, SHE'S BILINGUAL. UH, BUT WE HAVE LEFT HER AT HALFTIME THROUGH THE CYCLE OF THIS BUDGET. WE COULD LOOK AT MAYBE ONCE WE GET INTO THAT FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR PROMOTING IT, THE FULL PIE. I KNOW THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IN THAT POSITION HAS SOME NEEDS AND SOME CHALLENGES, UH, RELATED TO HEALTHCARE. SO WE MAY END UP LOSING THAT PERSON. UH, BUT IF I DON'T GET HER, NOW I'M GONNA LOSE HER. SHE'S GONE COST OF HEALTHCARE FOR FAMILY THAT SHE WAS WORKING FOR THIS CODE DISTRICT. AND SHE WAS WAITING. WE TOOK HER AND SHE'S LEARNED A LOT. AND WE, SHE WAS A GOOD ASSET, BUT LEXI, JAY SAID, IF WE CAN'T DO IT WITH CANE, BUT IF WE DON'T DO IT, THEN I'LL HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. ARE SOMEBODY ELSE WHEN THE TIME COME AND THAT START THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. SO WE'RE KILLING MONEY. WHAT YOU'RE DOING, HE'S ASKING FOR HER TO GO FULL TIME. YES MA'AM. YEAH. AND I HAVE NOT BUDGETED THAT WAY, BUT I CAN, WE CAN MASSAGE NUMBERS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET IT THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE WORKING IN THAT OFFICE JUST TO, OR RIGHT NOW YOU GET WHAT YOU GET, UH, ONE AND A HALF PRESENTS THERE BECAUSE ELDERS ARE FULL-TIME AND MELISSA'S THERE PART-TIME OR ELIZABETH OR PART-TIME AND CRUSOE. KRISELDA. YES. IS THAT THE ONE THAT'S SHE'S WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE SOME LEAVE HERE, UH, IN THE FALL. YES. AND SHE'S HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF A COUPLE OF SHE'S HAVING SOME ISSUES, BUT WE THINK WE CAN, UM, OKAY. I CAN MODEL NUMBERS AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. IT'S ABOUT A $40,000 DELTA. SO ONCE YOU FACTOR IN BENEFITS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. UM, CAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE IT'S GONNA FALL BACK ON TO DO, AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO TAKE HIS TIME AWAY FROM WHAT HE NEEDS TO BE GIVEN A MODEL IN IT. AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. ANYTHING ELSE FOR JACK? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT UP IS FUN FOUR 17. THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL ALSO KNOWN AS BUDGET OR A DEBT SERVICE MODEL. AND, UH, AS I PUT IN MY MEMO TO COUNCIL, UH, THAT CAME WITH THE PACKET THURSDAY NIGHT. UH, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH SINGAPORE WEITZMAN KROGER THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM $3.7 MILLION TOTAL, UH, AT THE END OF 10 YEARS, IF WE HAVEN'T REBATED UP TO THAT AMOUNT. AND DURING THE COURSE OF REVIEWING THE BUDGET, UH, WE, I GOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND ON AGRA OR ON AVERAGE, WE'RE PAYING AND I GAVE YOU AN ERRONEOUS NUMBER. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, HOLD ON ME, FIND THAT SHEET REAL QUICK. I FRACTURED IT OVER FIVE YEARS. IT'S ACTUALLY SIX YEARS. AND SO THE AGGREGATE AVERAGE THAT WE'RE PAYING OUT, UH, AS A CITY IS ABOUT $385,000 [04:40:01] A YEAR, EITHER THROUGH COST SAVINGS OR DIRECT REBATE TO THEM, WE WERE VERY AGGRESSIVE IN OUR SAVINGS AND WE ARE WITHIN $109,000 OF PAYING THEM OFF COMPLETELY IF WE SO CHOOSE. AND SO, UH, THERE'S THE TIME VALUE OF MONEY. AND THERE'S THE, IN MY MIND, THE FLEXIBILITY THAT COMES WITH RETIRING THIS ACCOUNT, UM, AND CHRIS AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A PRETTY, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM LINE OR IN THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES OF BOTH THE GENERAL FUND AND THE EDC. UH, SO YEAR TO DATE, UH, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT A FIGURE OF FINISHING THE YEAR AT ABOUT $6 MILLION IN RESERVE. $1.3 MILLION OF THAT 6 MILLION IS ACTUALLY TIED TO PROGRESS. SO THAT'S THE DELTA THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, TAKING OUT A SAVINGS AND PAYING THIS OFF. THE FREEDOM THAT COMES WITH THAT THOUGH, I THINK IS WORTH THAT IF WE WERE NETTING FOR THREE, FOUR, 5% INTEREST ON THOSE FUNDS PER ANNUM, I COULD SEE THE VALUE OF HOLDING ONTO THAT MONEY AND LETTING IT SIT AND SAVINGS AND CONTINUING TO PAY THE SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX REBATE, TYING UP THOSE FUNDS THAT $385,000 A YEAR, ROUGHLY, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE MONEY TOGETHER TO SAY IT, TO PAY THAT OFF, I THINK IT'S WORTH THE CITY TO BE FLEXIBLE FROM A LIQUIDITY STANDPOINT TO GO AHEAD AND RETIRE. THAT, THAT, THAT ACCOUNT IN MY VIEW, IT'S A MORTGAGE. WE PUT THEM UP, WE PLACED A MORTGAGE ON THE PROGRAM. WE'VE SAVED UP ENOUGH IN FOUR YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. WE CAN NOW PAY OFF OUR MORTGAGE AND WE CAN USE THAT MATH FOR OTHER THINGS IN THE BUDGET, OTHER BUDGET PRIORITIES. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE TIGHT IN THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE, BUT IT STILL KEEPS US AT ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MONTHS OF OPERATING RESERVE INSIDE THE BUDGET, WHICH OUR GOAL WAS SIX. SO WE WOULD DO A DRAWDOWN OF GENERAL FUND RESERVE. WE WOULD PAY THAT OFF. UH, AND THEN THOSE FUNDS THAT WE HAD BEEN DEDICATED TO PAYING DOWN THE PROPERTY TAX. AND SO WE WOULD SEE THE RESIDUAL REVENUE FROM THE PROPERTY TAX, AS WELL AS RESIDUAL REVENUE FROM THE SALES TAX THAT CURRENTLY WE'RE REBATING. NOW THE SALES TAX, ISN'T THAT SIGNIFICANT. I THINK THIS PAST YEAR WE PAID, UH, WHAT WAS IT, UH, A TOTAL OF 13, $14,000 IN SALES TAX. BUT THE PROPERTY TAX REIMBURSEMENT WAS $175,000. THAT'S ON TOP OF WHAT WE HAD TO SET ASIDE INTO SAVINGS. AND SO IN MY MIND, IT'S WORTH IT TO US TO RETIRE THIS DEBT, GET IT OFF OF OUR BOOKS AND THEN FREE UP THAT 175 PLUS WHATEVER IT WOULD BE FOR THE SALES TAX GOING FORWARD. NOW I LEAVE THAT TO Y'ALL. THAT'S NOT A DECISION YOU HAVE TO MAKE TODAY. IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LEVERAGE THAT COMES WITH THAT THOUGH. UH, MR. DUNCAN BELIEVES THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME WIGGLE ROOM TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE PAYING YOU OFF EARLY. LET'S TALK ABOUT REDUCTION. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REAL. I THINK WE'LL PUT ACCOUNTANTS IN CINCINNATI WOULD SAY, HELL NO, THEY WANT THE FULL POOL. UH, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO SWEETEN THE PIE IN ORDER TO GET CROSS ACCESS FOR THE COPPER, THE DH TRACT, UH, WHICH WERE CURRENT HA CURRENTLY HAVING ISSUES WITH, UH, WE MAY, OR, AND I WENT LAST MONDAY NIGHT TO LAKE JACKSON, PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, WITH MR. KANAKA TO FORMAT HIS REQUEST, TO GET ACCESS TO HIS COMMERCIAL TRACK THERE IN FRONT OF WHAT SHORE OFF OF OYSTER CREEK. WE'VE HAGGLED. NOW FOR FOUR MONTHS WITH OUR STAFF OVER A 30 FOOT CURB CUT INTO OYSTER CREEK, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING WAS VERY RECEPTIVE AND VERY OPEN, BUT WE'LL BE THERE TOMORROW NIGHT OR MONDAY NIGHT, UH, TO ADVOCATE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL WHERE WE'RE HEARING THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE BLOWBACK COMING ON THIS. WE HAVE A NATIONAL CHAIN CAFFEINATED BEVERAGE CORPORATION, WHICH IS SIGNED IN LOI. HE HAS ANOTHER NATIONAL CHAIN FOOD CORPORATION THAT IS READY TO SIGN AN LOI, BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE CIRCULAR ACCESS INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE. AND SO, UH, OUR PARTNERS AT SIN CORP HAVE MADE IT CLEAR OVER THE YEARS THAT THEY DID NOT INTEND TO PROVIDE CROSS ACCESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TRIED TO LEVERAGE THE PURCHASE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM BHK. SO THEY'VE ATTEMPTED TO PUT THE SQUEEZE ON IT. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEANS TO GAIN CROSS ACCESS, BUT THAT INVOLVES LITIGATION AND CONDEMNATION. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO GO. WE WILL PREVAIL, BUT IT MAY TAKE US A WHILE. SO IN MY MIND, IF WE CAN RETIRE, THERE'S TWO BENEFITS TO RETIRING THIS NOTE, A WE'VE SETTLED OUR MORTGAGE. WE DON'T OWN ANYTHING GOING FORWARD. AND ALL OF THE INCOME IS RESIDUAL TO US. THAT'S ONE. AND WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WITH THAT WITH, WE WANT TO BE IT'S SWEETENED THE POT AND SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE MAKING GOOD ON OUR END OF THE AGREEMENT. WE NEED YOU TO DO US A FAVOR. WE'RE GOING TO PAY YOU EARLY. SO YOU CAN [04:45:01] ENTER THE BENEFIT. IT'S MONEY MORE QUICKLY, IF YOU WILL PROVIDE CROSS ACCESS, WHICH THEN THE TRIPLE DOWN TO THAT IS AS WE ENHANCE OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE OFF OF THE HK TRACK AND THE SALES TAX SOONER. SO I, THOSE ARE MY ARGUMENTS FOR IT. AS I SAID, I KNOW IT MAY NOT BE A COMFORTABLE DECISION TO MAKE, AND IT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO ABSOLUTELY MAKE TODAY. IT IS A VERY LARGE ASK, UH, FROM BOTH FUNDS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE OWE THAT MONEY, WHETHER IT'S TODAY OR WE OWE IT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND AND THE EDC RESERVES. UH, WHAT WERE THE YEAR SEVEN, EIGHT? UH, WE ARE AT THREE POINTS, UH, WHERE NEAR SEVEN YEARS TENURE. YES, SIR. THE WAY THE AGREEMENT READS THE OPENING DAY OF KROGER IS THE TRIGGER DATE FOR THE ONSET OF THE AGREEMENT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WAS LIKE MAY 1ST, 2017. CAUSE THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT YOU HAD TO RETHINK. I COULD REMEMBER WE WERE IN YEAR SEVEN OR EIGHT. I KNEW WE WERE SOMEWHERE. YEAH. WE'RE ABOUT THREE YEARS EARLY. AND WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY IT WOULD COME OUT OF? WELL, SO I GUESS THE WAY THAT, THE WAY, YEAH, SO THE WAY THE NOTE IS STRUCTURED IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, I W IF WE EVER DO ANOTHER THREE 80 LIKE THIS, WE WON'T DO IT THIS WAY. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO A THREE 80, LIKE THIS, THE EDC WOULD TAKE OUT THE DEBT FOR THE AMOUNT OF THE INCENTIVIZATION, AND THEN THE REBATE WOULD BE PAID AT THE, THE REBATE WOULD BE PAID ON BULK THROUGH A DEBT, THROUGH A BOND, AND THEN RETIRED THROUGH RESIDUAL INCOME. THE WAY WE STRUCTURED THIS DEAL IS WE BASICALLY BORROWED MONEY FROM FUND 1 0 6 TO UNDERWRITE THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. THERE WOULD BE A BALLOON NOTE ON THE END WITH RESIDUAL SAVINGS AND THE REBATE SET UP FOR 10 YEARS. AND SO, UH, THE WAY IT WORKS IS WE'VE SPLIT THAT REBATE ON THE SALES TAX SIDE WITH THE EDC AND ON THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE AND THE SALES TAX SIDE WITH THE GENERAL FUND EXCISING, THAT 40% THAT GOES TO THE STREETS AND DRAINAGE. SO THE ANNUAL PAYMENT IN, FOR, UH, ANNUAL SAVINGS FOR FUND SIX, UH, EQUATES TO, UH, HOLD ON. I DIDN'T IN FRONT OF MATTHEW , UH, ON AVERAGE, ABOUT $200,000 A YEAR IS SET ASIDE OR PAID IN DIRECT REBATE BACK. AND ON THE GENERAL FOND ABOUT $385,000 PER YEAR IS SET ASIDE OR PAYBACK DIRECTLY. SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WOULD GAIN FLEXIBILITY AND GOVERNANCE OVER RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE HAVING TO BASICALLY TIE UP THE PAY THE MORTGAGE I'VE SAID THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE THAT, TO HAVE THAT INCOME PERTAINING TO YOURSELF WHERE YOU HAD TO COVER IT FOUR YEARS EARLY, THEN. YEAH. THAT'S FUNNY THAT WE COULD WORK WITH NOW. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THE DESIGN OF THE 10 YEAR CONTRACT ANYWAY, WAS TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, GET IT THREE YEARS EARLIER, THREE YEARS AHEAD. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. I CAN'T ARTICULATE A QUESTION. WELL, AS IT COMES TO YOU JUST FEEL FREE TO GIVE ME A CALL, EMAIL ME, UH, KNOW YOU GUYS CAN TEXT ME, EMAIL ME, CALL ME WHATEVER, DO MY BEST TO GET BACK TO AS QUICK AS I CAN. BUT I JUST, I, I THINK FROM A SELF-GOVERNANCE STANDPOINT AND A RETURN ON INVESTMENT STANDPOINT, IF WE CAN GET IT RETIRED, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT. I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT IF I CAN PAY MY CAR NOTE OFF EARLY, I DO IT JUST BECAUSE LIKE IT, THAT WAY, THE MONEY'S PRETTY UNCLEAR TO US COMING FORWARD. SO I LAID THERE CORRECTLY. I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. SO I GUESS MAYBE I GOT HUNG UP BACK IN THE LEVERAGE PART OF THE OTHER DEAL, RIGHT. SO THAT'S OKAY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT, OKAY. YES, SIR. THAT'S FINE. UM, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK IT'S A, OH, I GOT A LOT OF QUICK, I WOULD THINK THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD IDEA, ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN USE IT TO LEVERAGE TO GET THOSE TWO NEW BUSINESSES IN TOWN. I MEAN, WE'D BE PAYING OFF A DEBT AND THEN GAINING MORE SALES TAX WITH THAT AS WELL. SO I MEAN, IF THAT'S, I MEAN, SO IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, TO PUT ON THIS? WE WILL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AND WE PLAN TO, IF, IF COUNCIL KINDA GIVES US THE GREEN LIGHT, WE'LL START THOSE BACK CHANNEL NEGOTIATIONS WITH SYNC WEITZMAN, OR KROGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ARRANGEMENT. I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU TAKE IT NOW AS, [04:50:02] AS, AS TO, AS EARLIER? UM, THE, UH, SO IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WE'LL START THOSE NEGOTIATIONS AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO BRING BACK A MODIFIED CONTRACT SAYING THAT WE'RE PAYING OFF AT THIS POINT. SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE LIKE ANYTHING THAT WE EAT THAT WE SPEND OVER $50,000 ON, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE COUNSELING TO BE AN AGENDAS AND THAT KIND OF DEAL. YEAH. YEAH. ME TOO. WE'LL START, START LIVING THAT. I UNDERSTAND. WELL, I'M FREE UP. SO WE'VE BEEN SETTING ASIDE I'M ABOUT 2 75 AND PAYING BACK PROPERTY TAX ON TOP OF IT TO THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S ABOUT 3 85 YEARS ON AVERAGE THAT WE'VE BEEN SAVING. WE ESTIMATE THAT, AND OF COURSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPRAISALS ARE GOING TO DO, BUT SO THIS YEAR WE PAID BACK $175,000 IN PROPERTY TAX REBATE TO THEM. MY GUT IS JUST BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A 230 $240,000 PAYOUT ON PROPERTY TAX. PLUS THAT THAT INCLUDES THE SALES TAX REVENUE, SALES TAX REVENUES, KIND OF WEIRD THERE, WE SET THAT BENCHMARK PRETTY HIGH AT ABOUT $250,000. THEY'VE ONLY MET THAT THREE TIMES IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT THEY'VE BEEN OPEN. AND SO I KNOW A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THEY SHY BACK TO KROGER THEIR BUSINESS MODELS BACK TO FOCUSING ON GROCERIES, NOT NECESSARILY DRY GOODS LIKE THEY WERE WHEN I FIRST OPENED A DEPENDENT, HELPED US A LOT. AND THEN THEY'VE DONE, I WILL GIVE SINK OR A LOT OF CREDIT FOR BRINGING IN ALTERNATE BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE SALES TAX, BECAUSE FOR A WHILE THERE, THEY WERE FOCUSING ON SERVICE ORIENTED BUSINESSES THAT DON'T GENERATE SALES TAX. THEY FIGURED OUT PRETTY QUICKLY IT PAYS TO GET THOSE GUYS IN THERE TO GENERATE SALES TAX. OKAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING $1.2 BILLION IN THREE YEARS INTO THE BUDGET. YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU, YEAH, OVER THE TIME, THAT'S COUPLE OF CROPS THAT IS A COUPLE OF COPS PLUS THE OTHER THING. AND, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TH THE OTHER THING LOOKING AT IT, UH, FROM A FLEXIBILITY STANDPOINT AND ENVISION GOING FORWARD, LIKE I SAID, IF WE WERE GENERATING A SIGNIFICANT INTEREST REVENUE ON TOP OF THAT, I COULD SEE SAYING, YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. WHICH LEADS ME TO THE OTHER BIG CHANGE THAT I'M LOOKING AT MAKING CHRIS AND I WERE TALKING THIS MORNING, UH, WHEN SHE GOT THE REVISED ALLOCATIONS FOR A UBS. UM, WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THAT, WE WERE, WE WERE, IT WAS A SMART PLAY. WE WERE GENERATING A SIGNIFICANT RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AND EVEN WITH THE, UH, EVEN WITH THE UPTAKE IN, UH, INTEREST RATES, WE'RE LOOKING AT A, WHAT WAS THE PAYOFF CHANGE THE VALUE OF NEGATIVE $58,000. WE CARRY ABOUT $6 MILLION WITH UBS. UH, IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CLOSED THOSE ACCOUNTS AND TRANSFER THAT INTO TEXT POOL. THE YIELD WILL BE LOWER, BUT WE WILL NOT BE PAYING THE SERVICE FEES AND WE WILL NOT SEE THE WEIRD SWINGS IN TOTAL VALUE. IT, IT WAS GREAT IN THE BEGINNING, BUT IT HAS REALLY NOT BEEN GREAT FOR US THE PAST THREE YEARS. SO I WOULD THINK CASA, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHY, LIKE, THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED OUR MIND. THAT'S CORRECT. SO, UH, WE WILL START THOSE NEGOTIATIONS AS WELL, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A REAL BIG OBJECTION. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. LIKE, YOU HAD SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS ABOUT ANYWAY, SO I DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD OR SOME LITTLE CJ, FIVE YEARS, ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO, FOUR AND A HALF. YEAH. AND WE'D WANT TO LOOK AT THE COURT STUFF OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. OR THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY MAJOR DIFFERENCES TO COURT THIS YEAR, WE DID ADD FUNDS IN THERE. UH, WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE HAD TWO NOW IN THE LAST YEAR AND ONE OF THEM, UH, HE TENDS TO GET FRENETIC ON SUNDAY EVENING. SO I'M SURE WE'LL GET AN EMAIL, UH, TOMORROW NIGHT, UH, FROM A COUPLE OF SOVEREIGN CITIZENS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPT, BUT, UH, THEY BELIEVED THAT THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE AND OF THIS COUNTY AND OF THIS TOWN DO NOT APPLY TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATE HUNTED THEMSELVES, CITING SOME WEIRD LAW THAT WAS PASSED IN THE 19 EARLY 19 TEENS UNDER THE TREASURY ACT. NEVER MAKES [04:55:01] SENSE. UH, BUT THERE'S FOOLING THEMSELVES UP AND MAKING, UH, THE LAST EMAIL THAT THE JUDGE RECEIVED SAID THAT HE WILL PAY. UM, HE'S BEEN TRACKING, UH, VARIOUS COURT PERSONNEL AND, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, HE'S SHOWN UP A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT THEM TO BE IN TERMS OF, UH, IN SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HE KEEPS CALLING SAYING, HE'S GOING TO CALL THE BOND AND COUNTER SUES FOR TORT. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WHO HAS DECIDED THAT HE'S THE MEMBER OF A FICTIONAL, UH, NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES SLASH RELIGION, AND IS ALSO NOT, UH, NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION UNITED STATES, THIS STATE, THIS COUNTY OR THE CITY. AND, UH, HE HASN'T BEEN AS VOCAL ABOUT HIS OPPOSITION, BUT HE JUST HAD HIS ARRAIGNMENT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SO WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES. BUT IN ORDER TO MAYBE OFFSET SOME OF THAT WORD AND PRECINCT THE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE AT THE COURT, UM, TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN SEE WHO'S COMING IN THE DOOR WHEN THEY COME IN. UM, BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT TO HAVE IS THIS GUY FINALLY DECIDED HE'S HAD ENOUGH AND DO SOMETHING REALLY STUPID. SO, AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL, THE NOTE DANGEROUS TO ILLEGAL, NO, WAIT, WHAT LEGAL, WE DID INCREASE, UH, IN ANTICIPATION OF A COUPLE OF PIECES OF LITIGATION, UH, TIED TO THE CONSTRUCTION REMEDIATION AND THE, UH, POTENTIALLY SOLID WAYS BOTTOM LINE RIGHT NOW, HOW CLOSE TO ZERO, HOW CLOSE TO ZERO WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 4 92. I'LL TAKE THE CHANGES WE MAKE. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH YEAR. UH, WE CAN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SQUEEZING I CAN DO ON ONE OR TWO MORE AREAS TO GET US DOWN BELOW THAT NUMBER. BUT THAT NUMBER 4 36 IS WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO WRITE DOWN OUT OF AT A SAVINGS. IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THE KROGER SAVINGS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $1.5 MILLION EXCHANGE DRAWDOWN OUT OF SAVINGS, BUT 400,000 OF THAT IS YOUR, IS YOUR FIXED COSTS OR IS YOUR, IS YOUR STAFF COSTS? NOW WE CAN MODEL IT AS YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY. I HAD US AT ZERO WITH NO COLA, BUT THAT INCLUDED A COUPLE OF LAYOFFS. I CAN GET US TO ZERO ON WITHOUT, ON TOP OF THAT. BUT THAT DOES MEAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OSTIAL MEASURES, NO INCREASES FOR STAFF AND ELIMINATING A COUPLE OF POSITIONS. I MEAN, IT, IT'S WHERE THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE WAITING ON FILE NUMBER FOR THE INSURER FILE NUMBER FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO, UH, IF IT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT IF EVERYBODY WAS TO, UH, IF EVERYBODY'S THE, WHEN THEIR APPEAL AGAINST THE APPRAISAL BOARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $101 MILLION SWING IS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO OUR VALUE WOULD DROP BACK TO 6 24, UH, WHICH WOULD SET OUR TAX RATE. IF WE STAYED JUST AT THE EFFECT OF AT 64.2, I CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT. WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING WINNING AT THE APPRAISAL BOARD PERCENTAGE IS EXTREMELY, IT IS EXCEPTIONALLY LOW. SO I THINK WE'LL BE OKAY THERE. WHAT I'M HOPING TO SEE. UH, WE DID MENTION THE SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH WAS GREAT NEWS. WE RECEIVED SOME NOT SO GOOD NEWS, UH, ON WINDSTORM. UH, AND I TALKED TO NIKKI ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY. UH, OUR CARRIER FOR WINDSTORM DENIED RENEWAL, AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD TO EXPECT A 20% INCREASE IN ORDER TO GAIN COVERAGE. OKAY. I HAD NATIONAL CONVERSATION WITH MINE. I'VE DROPPED OFF. UH, THEY ARE GETTING READY TO TAKE IT BACK OUT TO WORK THAT I HAVEN'T PROVIDED A SHOPPER WITH. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE GOING TO SHOP IT WITH. VICTOR WAS THE VICTOR I HAD TO SAY HIS LAST NAME IS THAT THE AGENCY OR THE AGENCY. AND THEN HE'LL GO, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO MARKET FOR THERE'S STILL SOME OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ROOT BEING NEW. YEAH. THAT'S UH, THAT'S VERY GOOD. YEAH. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE ROOF BEING THERE. THE ROOF IS IT'S IT'S ALL THE COOPER'S ROOF. SO IT WAS NO DO ROOF IS ALWAYS GOOD FOR WINDSTORM. THEY LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE HE FELT THE AIR CONDONE THIS KING. I'M NOT GOING TO, I'M NOT GOING TO CHEAT THAT HORNET'S NEST AND IT'S JUST WIND STORM. I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY SAY, WELL, NO, I GUESS THEY, I GUESS IS THE AC ON THE ROOF. YEP. THEY'LL PROBABLY TELL CARE ABOUT THAT. THEN IT KIND OF SETS A FIRE RISK FOR US, BUT YEAH, MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THE ROPES NAME. DID I MISS 5%? 5% IS WHAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE HIGHEST WE CAN GO? OH, YOU CAN GO HIGHER. THAT'S JUST NOT, [05:00:02] I WAS JUST TRYING TO BALL THE NORM AND WE GET A MEETING WITH TCFA IN TWO WEEKS, WE CALL IT OUR BUDGET THERAPY SESSION. BUT WHEN TALKING WITH MY PEERS, 5% IS ABOUT THE NORM FOR THE REGION. I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE OUTLIER IN OUR REGION. IT'S ONE TO SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT AND ONE OUTLIER IN OUR REGION. IT'S ONE TO TWO. SO I FELT LIKE THAT WAS A FAIR NUMBER BETWEEN THE TWO. UM, MY HEART OF HEARTS TELLS ME THAT INFLATION AT SOME POINT HAS TO STOP, HOPEFULLY. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT STOPPING POINT IS AND WHETHER IT GETS MITIGATED IN THE TRANSITORY JUST TO GET THAT OH, THROUGH LIKE THE SANDS OF TIME. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, BUT WE FELT LIKE 5% WE COULD GO. WE COULD DEFINITELY GO HIGHER TO THEM IN A MODEL HIGHER. I CAN GIVE YOU THOSE NUMBERS AND SEND THOSE OUT TO YOU GUYS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. SO ACTUALLY I CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW. THE NEXT ITEM IS NOTICE OF ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING EVENTS. WE HAVE ONE QUIET, UH, MR. AGUILAR, UH, DO YOU WANT TO SEE SEVEN AND A HALF? DO YOU WANT TO SEE THREE? WHAT WOULD YOU, UH, WE'RE AT FIVE OR FIVE RIGHT NOW. CAN YOU DO LIKE SIX, SIX, SAY $30,000 DELTA? AND WHAT I CAN DO IS I'LL SEND YOU JUST VARIOUS MODELS AND YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. SO GOOD. [III. NOTICE/ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS] OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS NOTICE OF UPCOMING NOTICES OF ANNOUNCEMENTS AND UPCOMING EVENTS, UH, VERDICT 41ST GRADE, TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL, JULY 28TH THROUGH 30TH, 2022 AT GLUTINOUS MOPAR FINAL BUDGET WORKSHOP, TAX RATE AND RECORD VOTE THURSDAY, AUGUST THE FOURTH AT SIX 30 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. THIRDLY HOURS OF LABORATORY 22 AT 7:00 PM OR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE. THURSDAY, AUGUST 25TH, 2020 TO 6:30 PM ON A REGULAR JOB TO BE TO FOLLOW SECOND TACK RIGHT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST AT SIX 30 LABOR DAY HOLIDAY CITY OFFICES CLOSED MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH POINT TO SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 20 20, 20 20 22, 20 23 BUDGET ORDINANCE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH AT 6:30 PM, FOLLOWED BY SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE ORDINANCE THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH, 2030 TO 6:30 PM AND FOLLOWED BY REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER THE 22ND, 2022. THAT'S THAT I'M GOING TO BE A JUROR. SO MOVE, MOVE BACK OUT FOR A SECOND DISCUSSION HEARING NONE OTHER TIME TO VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.