* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [I. COMMENCEMENT] [00:00:08] NO, THIS IS HERE BY GIVING US A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO BE HELD ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE FIRST 2020 TO 6:30 PM. AND THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF POLLUTED CITY HALL GRADED AT 1 0 8 MAIN STREET, CLUTE, TEXAS 7 7 5 3 1 FOR THE BELOW LIST OF ITEMS, CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN AND DO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SECTIONS 5, 5, 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY 5 5, 1 0.07 TO DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY, 5 5, 1 0.073 DELIBERATE DELIBERATION ABOUT GIFTS AND DONATIONS. 5 5, 1 0.07 FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS. 5 5, 1 0.076. THE LIBERATION ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES, 5 5, 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, 4 1 8 0.17 5.183 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUES AND AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SECTION 3 21 0.302, TWO SALES TAX INFORMATION. THE AGENDA AGENDA PACKET ME LINK INFORMATION ARE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT WWW DOT CLUTE, TEXAS.GOV. PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE ALLOWED IN PERSON TO REGISTER TO SPEAK OR TO SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS. PLEASE EMAIL CITY CLERK, ROSIE POINT OF IT AT ROSIE AT CLUTE, TEXAS.GOV, AT LEAST TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE, UH, WILL OCCUR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING UNDER THE PUBLIC COMMENT ITEMS, NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING, THE RECORDING OF THE TELEPHONE VIDEO MEETING WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT UPON RECENT MEETING HAS NOW BEEN CALLED TO ORDER MR. BOND, WOULD YOU CARE TO GIVE US APPLICATIONS? THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, MALBEC GOD ORDER ROLL CALL CALVIN SHIFLETT PRESENT. PRESENT NICOLE MADDOX PRESENT DR. FRANCIS VAUGHN PRESENT, [II. PUBLIC HEARING] UH, TONIGHT'S FIRST AGENDA. MY FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADOPTED THEIR PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 0.5 9 4 7 9 9, WHICH IS A TAX INCREASE OF 7 1 7 0.14% ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 20 23 FLOORS. NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY, WE ALWAYS HAVE FUN AT THE TREATMENT. OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALWAYS POKE FUN AT THE TRUTH AND TAXATION MONIKER BECAUSE, UH, IT ALWAYS FEELS LIKE WE'RE EITHER WAY WE GO. WE'RE EITHER WE'RE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW, PORTRAY THE WHOLE PICTURE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE, UH, THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE. AND SO WE'RE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE ARE REDUCING THE OVERALL TAX RATE BY ABOUT 3 CENTS PER HOUSEHOLD, PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS EVALUATION, WE'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING THE REVENUE. AND SO, BECAUSE WE'RE INCREASING THE REVENUE, WE HAVE TO CALL IT A TAX INCREASE, EVEN THOUGH THE RATE IS GOING DOWN. SO IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. THE RATE IS DROPPING REVENUES COMING UP BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S VALUES CAME UP AND AGAIN, UH, THE CITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPRAISAL PROCESS. UH, I KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE STILL FIGHTING LIKE HELL, TRYING TO GET THOSE REDUCED. AND SO, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO IN A REVERSAL LAST YEAR'S EVALUATION, AS YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR, WE HAD A DROP IN VALUE ATTRIBUTED TO SEVERAL MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, TAKING PROFIT LOSS, UH, REDUCED OUR, OUR TOTAL VALUATION [00:05:01] BY ABOUT $60 MILLION COMPARED TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, UH, RESULTING IN A TAX. I WANT AN ANOMALOUS TAX INCREASE, UH, UP TO 62.50 CENTS. UH, BUT SO WE WERE ABLE THIS YEAR TO RECOGNIZE THE FULL VALUE IN THAT CERTIFIED VALUE, 6 7 9 8 9 4 3 2 1, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT A 300% INCREASE, UH, OR 200% INCREASE FROM WHERE WE WERE 10 YEARS AGO. AND A LOT OF THAT GROWTH IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE CITY'S FORWARD THINKING, UH, AND WILLINGNESS TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT. WE BROUGHT ONLINE THE WOOD SHORE AND COLLEGE PARK DEVELOPMENTS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. AND THOSE ARE PAID MASSIVE DIVIDENDS TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF INCREASE IN VALUE, UH, THAT INCREASE IN VALUE HAS AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP TO THE ACTUAL RATE. SO THE HIGHER THE VALUE GOES THE LOWER THE RATE GOES BECAUSE THE BURDEN IS SHARED AMONG MORE PAY, MORE PAYERS AND MORE VALUE. AND SO, UH, WE'D LIKE TO SAY, AS I POINTED ON THE VERY END, EVEN THOUGH THE RATES GONE DOWN, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOUR TAX BILL IS GOING TO GO DOWN BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN VALUE AND INCREASE IN VETERAN PROPERTY APPRAISALS. SO THIS IS A TEN-YEAR LOOK AT WHERE VALUES OF THE CITY HAS BEEN SLIGHTLY OVER $300,000 IN 2013. UH, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER $700,700 MILLION IN 2023. AND I THINK THAT'S A REMARKABLE TESTAMENT TO THE CITY'S VISION AND TRYING TO GROW ITSELF AND GROW ITS VALUE INTERNALLY. AND SO THE LONG-TERM, UH, GROWTH AND VALUE HAS RESULTED IN AN INVERSE OR DECLINING TREND IN OVERALL TAX RATE. UH, IN 2013, OUR TAX RATE WAS 67 CENTS. AND THIS YEAR, IF WE ADOPT THIS RIGHT, WE'LL BE AT 59.4, UH, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. UH, THE PROPOSED RATE EQUATES TO WHAT'S CALLED THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE. UH, IN THE OLD DAYS, WE CALL THAT THE ROLLBACK RATE, UH, BUT BASICALLY EQUATES TO 3.5% MORE OF TOTAL REVENUE OVER WHAT THE ADJUSTED NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD BE. AND THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS KIND OF A MISNOMER BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU ADOPTED NO NEW REVENUE RATE, YOU STILL INCREASE YOUR REVENUE SLIGHTLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL VALUE IN CHANGING APPRAISAL. SO THE NET NEW REVENUE RATE THIS YEAR WAS 55.70 CENTS. UH, WE'RE GOING ABOVE THAT TO THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE. THE BUDGET IN ITS CURRENT MODEL IS PREDICATED ON THAT REVENUE COMING IN AND AT THE BUILDER APPROVAL TECH VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, WHICH DOES NOT TRIGGER AN ELECTION. AND SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE INVERSE LINE AND THOSE TWO CHARTS TOGETHER INDICATING THE INCREASE IN VALUE WITH THE DECREASE IN THE OVERALL TAX RATE. THIS IS THE ACTUAL IMPACT. I I'D LIKE TO SHOW THIS LAST, BUT THIS IS THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE NOW. UH, WHEN I SAY THAT WE COULD GO TO THE BAT AND IT DOESN'T TRIGGER AN ELECTION, THERE'S ALSO A, BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER 30,000 PEOPLE WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO TO WHAT'S CALLED THE DE MINIMIS RATE. I DON'T RECOMMEND DOING THAT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH LENGTHIER, MORE IN-DEPTH PROCESS. BUT IF WE WERE TO GO TO THE DIMINIMOUS RATE, WE COULD ACTUALLY GO ALL THE WAY UP TO 63.1, 5 CENTS ON TAX RATE, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THE GRAIN, WHICH IS THE 59.4 RATE IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON A HOMEOWNER, UH, THAT HAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME, THAT'S ABOUT A $595 BILL FOR $400,000 HOMES, ABOUT 2300 PER YEAR IN CITY TAXES. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE 0.59, THE PROPOSED RATE YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY GREAT AT THAT TRAIN OF THOUGHT, JUST DISAPPEARED. OH, SORRY. UH, I HAD A QUESTION YOU'RE NOT, AND I'LL REMIND COUNCIL. THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS AFTER THIS, YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME. WE WON'T ACTUALLY ADOPT IT UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY ON THE PERFECT, JUST DISCUSSION. SO IF YOU COME UP WITH QUESTIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, AS, AS THE CITY MANAGER HAS ALLUDED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ACTUAL PROPERTY VALUE TO, SO YOU'RE CLUELESS LATER AFTER NOMINAL INCREASE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL APPRAISED VALUE WITH THAT ALSO GOES THE ADDITIONAL COST TO MAINTAINING ALL THAT STUFF. THAT'S AN ASTRONOMICAL FOR YOUR TWO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUCKET. YEP. I'M WORRIED ABOUT NEXT YEAR. BE HONEST, WORRY ABOUT WHAT NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE OUR APPRAISALS, I'M JUST [00:10:02] MAYBE NOT THE APPRAISAL RATE, BUT THE REALITY, RIGHT. IT'S GOT TO KICK IN EITHER NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THE OVERPAYING AND THE OVER VALUATION OF THE PROPERTY. NOT JUST INCLUDING EVERYWHERE. YEAH. IS JUST, IT'S GREAT ON PAPER. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER IT HOLDS UP TO THE CITIZENS. WELL, WHAT ARE THE THINGS, HERE'S WHAT IT IS. WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMING AROUND AT THE LEGISLATURE HERE IN THE NEXT SESSION IS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET SOME KIND OF TAX RELIEF, WHATEVER. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE NUTSHELL RIGHT THERE IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOVERNED BY WHAT THEY TELL US WE CAN DO. YEAH. WELL, I GET IT. CITY-WISE I GUESS JUST FROM AN INDIVIDUAL WISE, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE PAYERS CAN CARRY THE NON-PAYERS, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY, BUT THAT IS AS REAL AS IT GETS. AND, UH, I'M STILL FIGHTING MY TAXES. SO I'M CURIOUS AS THE NUMBER, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MONDAY, I JUST NOW HAD MY, MY MEETING ON MONDAY. YEAH. SO THE PRELIMINARY VALUE THAT WE PROVIDED BACK IN JEAN WAS 7 25. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE PLAY BETWEEN 6 79 AND 7 25, THAT'LL TELL YOU HOW MUCH PROTEST IS STILL OUT THERE. THIS WAS AN ESTIMATE THAT GAVE YOU THIS WAS THERE. THIS WAS THAT THEY SAID THEY COULD NO, NO, NO. IN JUNE THEY SAID 7 25. AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, WE CAN CERTIFY 6 79. SO, BUT YEAH, IT'S A, I'M HEARING FOLKS TALK ABOUT 140%, 200% INCREASES IN THEIR OVERALL APPRAISALS. AND THAT'S NOT HERE IN TOWN. I'VE HEARD 40 TO 50% HERE IN TOWN, BUT I'M HEARING FOLKS OUT THE COUNTY SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT INCREASES. I'VE GOT TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY INCLUDED THAT WENT UP OVER 104% RAUL BLANK. OH MY GOSH. I HAVE EVERY, EVERYBODY DOES. IT'S NOT A, NOT, NOT A CLUE, BUT MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THESE $400,000 THAT SHOULD HAVE SOLD FOR 400,000 ON HOUSES. THERE WERE 300. THAT'S WHAT CONCERNED ME IS WHERE DOES THAT HIT? AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE CITY, I GUESS, SOONER OR LATER IT MAKES FULL CIRCLE THOUGH. YEAH. SO I ALLOW ME, YOU KNOW, IT, IF THEY MAKE ENCOUNTER ADJUSTMENT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK DOWN. AND WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DO, THEN THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO HOW THEY REGULATE THAT WE CALCULATE OUR TAXES. SURE. CAUSE I'VE GOT OVER $250,000 WORTH OF PROTESTED PROPERTY. RIGHT NOW. THAT'S JUST ME IN LIKE 2008, 2009, WHEN THE WHOLE HOUSING BUBBLE BURST AND STUFF, DID KLUTE SEE A LOT OF REDUCED APPRAISALS, LIKE DRASTICALLY REDUCED APPRAISAL. SO AT THAT TIME I SERVED IN THE CITY OF GOLIA AND WE SAW 25% DECLINATION AND OUR VALUE THAT YEAR. OKAY. IT WAS PROBABLY THE SAME. I MEAN, THAT WAS, AND YOU GO BACK, GO BACK TO THE SLIDE IN THERE THAT SHOWS THAT TAX RATE TREND. IF YOU LOOK IN THERE FOR UP UNTIL LIKE 2016, THE YOU INCLUDE NEVER DID ANYTHING WITH THE TAX RATE, HELD THE SAME TAX RATE THAT WHOLE TIME, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO, THERE WERE NO RULES FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS GOVERNOR IN WHAT YOU, HOW ABOUT YOU AND HOW, HOW MUCH YOU COULD ANCHOR IT SOMEWHERE IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. FROM 2016 TO 2023, THEY HAVE CAME UP WITH RULES THAT TELL US HOW MUCH WE CAN OKAY. GO WITHOUT TRIGGERING SOME KIND OF SPECIAL EFFECT. OKAY. SO DO THEY REQUIRE, IF ARE LIKE RIGHT NOW OR APPRAISAL VALUES ARE SKY HIGH, DO THEY DICTATE THAT WE HAVE TO LOWER IT? OR ARE WE MAKING THE DECISION? WELL, HERE'S HOW IT WORKS. SO BASICALLY LET'S SAY OUR BAD FISHER IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. OUR VALUES AT SIX 80, ROUGHLY ROUNDING UP. IF WE WANT TO GO ABOVE THAT VAT RATE, THAT VOTER APPROVED RATE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IT, BUT IT AUTOMATICALLY CREATES AN ELECTION. WE HAVE THE VOTERS GET TO VOTE. WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR AN ELECTION, THE VOTER TO GET THE VOTE. AND IF IT'S VOTED DOWN, THEN YOU'VE WASTED THE MONEY FOR THE ELECTION. AND THEN YOU'RE BACK TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S TACTIC. AND THAT'S THE OTHER PROBLEM IS IT CAN HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT BECAUSE YOU FALL BACK TO THAT NEXT YEAR'S TECH OR NO, YOU FALL TO THE EFFECTIVE RATE. I'M SORRY, THE NON NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH AFFECT THOSE THINGS, THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUES THAT YEAR PRIOR. SO I WOULD NEVER, EVER [00:15:01] RECOMMEND THAT WE GO ABOVE WHATEVER WE CALL IT, THE ROLLBACK RATE BEFORE IT WAS AN 8% RATE, BUT I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND COUNCIL. I WOULD GO TO THAT GUILT BEYOND THAT NUMBER BECAUSE IT DOES IT'S PERILOUS. IT CAN HAVE SOME DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ANYWAY. YES, HISTORICALLY, IS THERE ANY RISK THAT THE, SINCE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WAS SO APPRAISALS WERE UP SO HIGH THIS YEAR BECAUSE HE WAS A COUNCILMAN, CHRIS WAS TALKING ABOUT, IS MY PROPERTY WENT UP 250%, RIGHT. IS THERE ANY HISTORICAL PRECEDENT THAT THE TOTAL VALUE COULD BE ADJUSTED IN DECREASE BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD BE IN BIG TROUBLE, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE THAT UP. RIGHT. SO THAT WAS, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS LAST YEAR WAS THEY CAME IN AND THEY ADJUSTED IT DOWNWARD. WE BEGAN THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL PROCESS IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, I THINK WITH A VALUE OF ABOUT SIX 50. AND WE DROPPED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SIX 20 OR SIX, 12, SORRY. AND SO, UH, ONCE THEY CERTIFY THIS RATE AT 680 MILLION, THAT IS THE RATE THAT WE'RE OPERATING UNDER NOW, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY CAN'T ADJUST THEIR EVALUATIONS DOWN NEXT YEAR AND MAKING THIS A CORRECT, UH, CORRECTION IN THE MARKET PER SE, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, FOLKS HAVE TO REALIZE THE APPRAISAL BOARDS. THEY DON'T ANSWER TO THE CITY. THEY DON'T ANSWER TO THE COUNTY. THEY ANSWER TO THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS UNDERSTANDS THE DANGER IS THAT THE VALUE COULD FALL, BUT THE LAW STILL THE SAME THAT WE COULDN'T GO UP ON OUR RATE WITHOUT HAVING AN ELECTION, I GUESS THE NEXT YEAR TO EVEN GET BACK TO, YES, I WOULD HAVE SOME PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM. I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THAT IF THEY, IF THEY PASS FOR KIND OF LEGISLATION, THAT THEY WOULD CORRECTION THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE RULES BECAUSE THE WHOLE KEY, THE WHOLE KEY TO THEIR RULE SETTING OR RULE MAKING WAS BASICALLY TRYING TO KEEP YOU AT A LEVEL OF NUMBER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR NOW. SO THEY GO IN AND WIPE YOUR BOTTOM LINE AND YOUR NUMBER'S NOT GOING TO BE SLAMMED. I MEAN, ME PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I HATE TO BE OVER THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, BUT I MEAN, AS WE TALKED LAST SESSION, I MEAN, WE CAN'T GO TO THAT RATE AND THIS RATE, I MEAN, BARELY GETS US THROUGH TO CORRECT. SO, I MEAN, WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE'RE ACTUALLY RAISING A LITTLE MORE MONEY, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME NEW PROPERTY COMING ONLINE, AS WELL AS THE, AS THE INCREASE IN ANY VALUE, WHICH MAKES THAT, WHICH MAKES THAT DIFFERENCE. BUT ALONG WITH THAT SAID, HE'S JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I MEAN, THEY FELT THE INCREASE IN THE FUEL. THEY FELT THE AIR CREATION, POWER BILLS. I MEAN, THE INCREASES ARE THERE AND YOU KNOW, WE EITHER HAVE ONE OR TWO CHOICES. WE EITHER TRY TO MAKE UP THE REVENUE A LITTLE BIT OR WE CUT SERVICES. THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO. YEAH. AND THESE RIGHTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR A VALUED HOME THAT IS STRICTLY THE CITY, TEXAS. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. WE HAVE NO SHE'LL HAVE THE SCHOOL, THE COLLEGE ROAD AND BRIDGE FOR NONE OF THAT. AND THE SCHOOL IS THE BIGGEST ONE, BUT NEXT YEAR WE HIT THE $40,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ON THE SCHOOL THAT, THAT COULD HELP A LITTLE KID, MAYBE NOT A TON, BUT A LITTLE BIT. WELL, IN THE DEAL TO GOING INTO AN ELECTION WITH PEOPLE BEING SO UPSET ABOUT THEIR TAXES, SLIM TO CHANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE VOTE OF WHAT'S BEST FOR THE MOST. YEAH. BUT WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU WANT TO PUT HER ON ABOUT. YEAH, I AGREE. I'M MAD ENOUGH NOW TO VOTE STUPID STUFF. NO, NOBODY, NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT SATURATE ON ABOUT NO, AND I WILL GIVE HIM CREDIT THOUGH. THEY WENT TO A WHOLE NEW CLASS UP THERE CAUSE IT AIN'T, THEY GET WITH THE SAME PEOPLE YOU DEALT WITH WITH THE SAME FORMAT THAT YOU DEALT WITH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IF ANYBODY HAS BEEN UP THERE SO FAR, THEY PRETTY IRONCLAD AND FIXED. I'LL GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR, WELL, I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE THAT TOLD ME AND TOLD ME THAT HE WENT TO PROTEST IS IN ANOTHER COUNTY [00:20:01] AND THAT, UH, THEY HAD HIS $15 AN ACRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND NOT GOING TO REDUCE IT. IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, TWO PROPERTIES SOLD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU WERE AT AND THEY'RE 19,002, I, I CAN BRING YOURS UP TO 19,000. YEAH. I DID THE SAME THING IN THE BRONX. I HAVE THREE LOTS AND THEY WENT UP $50,000 A LOT OVER THE ONE OVER WHAT THEY WERE. SO I THOUGHT I WENT UP THERE AND THE FIRST THING IS WELCOME TO THE MEETING WE SEE RIGHT HERE. YOU DON'T LIVE HERE. THAT'S HOW THE CONVERSATION STARTED. YEP. NO, SIR. AND WHAT EXACTLY IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO DO? I LIKE TO DISCUSS THESE PROPERTY TAXES. THE SECOND HOME. NO, IT'S PEACE, BROOKE, BUT FLOODS A LOT AND IS, WELL, NO, MY ARGUMENT WAS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TAXED BECAUSE WE WERE ON THE WATER AND I SAID, IN CASE Y'ALL, HADN'T LOOKED, THE WATER'S GONE. I SAID, I'M HERE FOR A DECREASE. AND I SAID, I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS IT. AND SAME THING. SOME HOULIHAN OUT OF CALIFORNIA HAS COME THROUGH THERE AND PROBABLY BOUGHT UP 10 LOTS AND PAID SIMILAR TO WHERE THEY JUMPED MINE. AND I SAID, WELL, I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS RIGHT. AND THEN GO, EVERYBODY HAS THAT OLD SAYING, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PAY ME THAT FAR? NO, THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S IT. I'M SURE THEY GET DOWN HERE NOW. SO I GUESS I SAID ANY CHANCE THAT SOMEBODY WON'T BUY NO, SIR, BUT HERE'S THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT DID Y'ALL HAVE A NICE DAY OUT THE DOOR. I WENT WITH MY TAIL BETWEEN MY LEGS, BUT WHAT YOU'VE SEEN HERE LOCALLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SALE SITE, UNSEEN T WEST COAST INVESTORS. BUT HERE'S THE DEAL. DID YOU KNOW THAT I TOOK, SOME OF THEM OFFERS TO THE, UM, PROTEST HEARING. CAUSE IN MY OPINION, THAT'S A FAIR MARKET. YOU IT'S AN UNSOLICITED OFFER TO BUY YOUR PROPERTY AND THEY REFUSE TO USE ANY OF THEM. AND THEN WHEN I ASK ABOUT THE APARTMENT TO THE NEW TAB, THE NEW STATE SAYS IT IS TAXED ON DON'T MESS THIS UP HIGHEST AND BEST USE. SO THAT'S WHY APARTMENTS. THEY CLAIM ARE ON INCOME BASIS VERSUS FAIR MARKET VALUE. BUT ALL THAT COLLEGE MATH DOESN'T COME INTO EFFECT OF THE DEDUCTIONS. IT'S SOLD ON THE IDEA THAT THIS PROPERTY MAKES MORE MONEY THAN IT'S, WHATEVER THE WORD I COULD USE, PROPERTY VALUE, BUT THEN ON THE IT'S APPRAISAL. BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, DRY DOWN, THERE'S NO OFFSET THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET FOR HOMEOWNERS FOR THE EXPENSES THAT THEY DO. I GUESS YOU JUST GOT PAID A BABY AGAIN. THIS IS, THIS IS, BUT A HEARING THE RIGHT CANNOT. IT WILL BE NOT, WILL NOT BE SET UNTIL THEY LEAVE. HAS ANY OF THIS BEEN PUBLISHED OR JUST SO WE HAVE TO RUN THIS NOTICE ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S ALL AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. I JUST HAD RECEIVED A PHONE CALL AND NORMALLY I GET MY EARS BOX PRETTY REGULAR. SO I'VE GOTTEN SOME TO THE PIPER LAST WEEK. YEAH, OF COURSE. I'VE BEEN HOLDING THE STEERING WHEEL FOR THREE WEEKS. I AIN'T GET THAT. I REMEMBER. I REMEMBER READING THAT LEAF ONE FROM THE ZOO. EXCELLENT. THE COUNTY PUTS IT IN THE BIBLE, THE ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, MS. FELIX OFFICE, THE ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S OFFICE HANDLES PUBLICITY PUBLICLY HANDLES THE PUBLICATION BEFORE. AND I DON'T KNOW, USUALLY CLUED IS LOWER THAN MOST OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES. THE LOWEST ONE ON ACCIDENT HAVE BEEN FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 10 YEARS, 12 YEARS. THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO MENTION THAT OTHER TAX BASE IS TWICE. WHAT THEY GET. IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, WHEN I WENT ON LAST YEAR, I ALMOST CRIED BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN MARRIED. THAT IT WENT THAT WAY INSTEAD OF THAT WAY. YEP. WE HAVE ALWAYS, I MEAN, IT'S, I'VE BEEN THERE. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER TO BITE THE MONEY. I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF IT BEST FOR THEM TO KEEP THEIR MONEY. [00:25:07] I WROTE HALF MY MONEY IN MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND MY MONEY AND THEY'RE SAVING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS. CALL ME UP. WE'RE WORKING ON YOU TRY TO ANYWAY. I, I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY, THE ONES THAT I GOT DOWN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST GETS YOU, THEY SAID, SIR, THIS THE BEST I CAN DAY. AND YOU GO, OKAY, SEND ME TO THE BOARD. WHAT DO YOU MEAN SENT ME TO THE BOARD? THAT'S MY OPTION. WHEN I LEAVE HERE, I'M NOT GONNA SHOOT THE MESS YOU FOR THE MESSAGE. MY QUESTION TO HIM WAS HOW COULD A PATIENT PROPERTY ZERO, A GROUP OF 120 OR SOMETHING. THE LAST BLOOD THAT CAME THROUGH IT HAD FOUR FOOT OF WATER. WELL, THAT'S CAUSED MR. SHIFLETT. THIS DUMMY PAID TWICE. WHAT YOU GOT YOURS JUST WORKED RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD. I'M RUNNING ONE VICTIM. NEXT QUESTION I SENT YOU OUT OF THERE. THE NEXT QUESTION THAT THEY SENT ME IN MY EMAIL, IF YOU DON'T RESPOND, WE'LL SET UP A MEETING, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM. I'VE GOT A BUILDING RIGHT THERE IN ANGLETON THAT THEY WENT UP $187,000 ON THE BUILDING. I GAVE HIM $110,000 REPAIR BILL FOR THE UPRIGHTS. CAUSE BOSCH AND TRADERS ARE ROTTED. SO THEY REDUCED IT 10%. AND I SAID, AND I DON'T MEAN TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT JUST, WELL, I WON'T SAY WHAT I SAID, I HURT MY FEELINGS OR YOUR ART AS IT SIGNED ME UP FOR THE BOARD. AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DEAL WITH THE EXACT SAME THING. UH, WELL, WOULDN'T EVEN TAKE THAT ESTIMATE. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT ANY OF US CAN DO ABOUT THE, THEY SAID IS OPERATED BY THE STATE. WELL, WHO CAN DO BETTER WITH OUR MONEY OTHER THAN THE GOVERNMENT IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY LABS. YEAH. CONTROL PENDING, PENDING, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THE PUBLIC AREA WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC [III. NOTICE/ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS] HEARING TO MOVE TO THE DECK. THE ITEM WHICH WE NOTICED IN ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT COMING TO EVENTS. IMMEDIATES MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH OF CITY HALL OFFICERS WILL BE CLOSED. UM, THEN ON SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH AT SIX 30, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 23. THEN IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO W TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ORDINANCE EITHER IN ITS CURRENT FORM OR A REVISED FORM, WHICHEVER WE DECIDE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE. YOU'D ME. I HAD THAT BACKWARDS. WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WHICH AS IT IS. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE FIVE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT YOU HAVE TO PASS THE BUDGET BEFORE YOU PASS THE TAX RATE. SO IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT WE WILL HAVE HAVE THE OLDEST ON THE TACTICAL AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER THE 22ND, 2022 AT 7:00 PM. NEXT I WILL BE A GERMAN BOMB AND NO DISCUSSION. I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR UNANIMOUS, MAYBE THIS GERMAN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.