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YEAH.NO, IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD THING.
[I. COMMENCEMENT ]
NOTICES HEREBY GIVEN OF A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO BE HELD ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER THE 12TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF KLUT CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 1 0 8 MAIN STREET, PLU, TEXAS 7 7 5 3 1.FOR THE BELOW LISTED ITEMS, CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 1.
CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY.
5 5 1 0 7 2 DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY.
5 5 1 0 7 3 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT GIFTS AND DONATIONS.
5 5 1 0 7 4 PERSONNEL MATTERS.
DELIBERATION ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES 5 5 1 0 8 7.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 4 8 7 5 0.83 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUES AND IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE, INCLUDING NOT LIMITED TO SECTION 3 2 1 0.3022 SELLS TAX INFORMATION.
THE AGENDA MEETING PACKET AND VIDEO LINK ARE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWW.KLUTEXAS.GOV.
PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE ALLOWED IN PERSON AND WILL BEGIN, WILL, WILL OCCUR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING UNDER THE PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM.
TO REGISTER TO SPEAK OR SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS, PLEASE EMAIL CITY CLERK ROSIE POINT, OFIT AT ROSIE@KLUTEXAS.GOV.
AT LEAST TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, A RECORDING OF THE VIDEO MEETING WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST TO THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MEETINGS ACT MEETING HAS NOW BEEN CALLED TO ORDER.
UH, MR. VONG, WOULD YOU CARE TO PRAY OVER US TONIGHT? THANK YOU.
WE JUST WANNA LIFT UP THESE OTHER COUNTRIES WE CALL THE CONFLICT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOCAL ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE'S JUST, THERE'S PEOPLE SUFFERING.
WE JUST ASK THAT THIS COULD BROUGHT TO PEACEFUL RESOLUTION.
BLESS A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA THROUGH DIFFERENT HEALTH ISSUES AND STUFF.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA DO UNTIL YOU WALK THROUGH FLOOR.
WE JUST WANNA LIFT EVERYBODY UP TO YOU THAT NEEDS IT.
AND, UH, WE JUST ASK TO GO FORWARD, CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR WORKERS, ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, VOLUNTEERS HERE TONIGHT, MAKING DECISIONS, TRY TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY AWARE SO TO LIVE IN SAFER PLACE TO LIVE.
JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE, PLEASE.
A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ROLL CALL CALVIN SHIFFLET.
JOE LOPEZ PRESENT, FRANCIS VAUGHN PRESENT.
NEXT ITEM IS SCISSOR VISITOR COMMENTS.
[III. CONSENT AGENDA ]
WE WILL FOREGO READING THIS ITEM AND MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.AND ITEMS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE OR GENERALLY ENACTED IN ONE MOTION.
THE EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY REQUEST ONE OR MORE ITEMS BE REMOVED.
THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE ACTION.
TONIGHT'S CONCERN, THE AGENDA CONSISTS OF MINUTES.
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER THE 21ST, 2023 AT 6:30 PM AND A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE MOTIONS MADE BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
COUNCILMAN LOPEZ MAKES A SECOND.
ANY ITEMS NEED TO BE REMOVED? ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE VOTE.
[IV. BUSINESS ITEMS ]
THANK YOU.WE WILL MOVE INTO BUSINESS ITEMS AND I A IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 55 DASH 2023 AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR SIGNATURE ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRAZO COUNTY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2023.
2024 ROAD AND BRIDGE WORK PROJECT REQUEST SUMMARY AND IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION NUMBER 55 20 23.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CLU, TEXAS AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE APPROVING THE 2024 ROAD AND BRIDGE PROJECT SUMMARY LISTED UNDER THE CITY'S INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF INCLUDE AND BRAZORIA COUNTY HAVE LONG PARTNERED TO CONDUCT
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BUS NEEDED ROAD MAINTENANCE PROJECTS UNDER A LONGSTANDING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.AND WHEREAS THIS AGREEMENT ALLOWS THE CITY TO USE COUNTY RESOURCES FOR ROAD REPAIR PROJECT LISTED ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT PROJECT REQUEST SUMMARY F Y 24 AND THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY OF CL TEXAS, THAT THE PROJECTS LISTED ARE HEREBY APPROVED AND THE MAYOR IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE APPROPRIATE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT PROJECT REQUEST SUMMARY WILL MISSOURI COUNTY FURTHER THE CITY WISHES TO THANK COMMISSIONER PAYNE AND THE COUNTY FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE READ PAST, ADOPTED THIS 12TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2023.
IT WOULD BE SIGNED BY MYSELF AND ATTESTED BY ROSA
AND UH, AGAIN, WHEN IT SAYS OVERLAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA DO A SIMPLE OVERLAY.
IT ALSO MEANS WE MAY MAIL IT AND TAKE IT BACK DEPENDING ON THE ROAD'S CONDITION.
I THINK WE WENT FOUR INCHES BELOW ON A COUPLE OF THE STREETS THIS PAST YEAR.
SO, AND ARE THEY GONNA WORK INTO, UH, DOWN THE LIST OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE WHATEVER'S CLOSEST TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR? UH, I YEAR THAT THEY GO UP TO TWO MILES OF ROADS, SO THAT LIST THERE IS JUST A LITTLE OVER TWO MILES OF ROAD.
SO THEY WOULD COMPLETE A MILE.
NOW, WHICH ORDER THEY WOULD GO IN? UH, IT JUST DEPENDS.
WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING ALL OVER TOWN, UH, WHERE WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM.
SO WHERE THERE'S JUST ONE AREA, THEN WE'LL TRY TO FOCUS ON ANOTHER AREA.
BUT THOSE AREAS, LOOKING BACK AT THE PAST YEARS WHEN THESE STREETS WERE LAST DONE, SOME OF 'EM WERE DONE NOT AS LONG AGO.
SOME OF 'EM WERE DONE LONGER, BUT THOSE WOULD BE, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S ABOUT, UH, THREE TENTHS OF A MILE MORE THAN, UH, ACTUALLY ABOUT 300 SOMETHING FEET.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, I KNOW THAT I DO KNOW YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UH, AS FAR AS THE OVERLAY, WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS OUR, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA BE ADDING PIPE TO THE ROAD BECAUSE IT IS SLOUGHING OFF.
WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION ON DORSETT AND WE'VE ORDERED PIPE TO, TO HANDLE SOME OF THOSE AREAS, NOT JUST IN THOSE, WE'VE ACTUALLY, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF ROAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING, UH, TRYING TO SHORE UP BECAUSE WE ARE SLOUGHING OFF SIGNIFICANTLY AFTER THE DROUGHT.
WHEN YOU SAY PIPES, WOULD THAT BE LIKE, UH, DRAINAGE, CUL DRAINAGE? WE COVERING UP THE DITCH? YES, SIR.
UM, THEY ALSO MENTIONED THAT THEY'VE GOT A NEW LAY DOWN MACHINE, WHICH IS GOING TO IMPROVE THEIR, UH, QUALITY, I GUESS, OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT A NEW ONE, SO IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT'S MAYBE HIM, SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS BEFORE.
BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT THIS NEW MACHINE WILL WELL PRODUCE, PRODUCE A BETTER PRODUCT.
JUST THE WEIGHT AND THE EROSION.
YEAH, IT HAS THE EROSION WITH A DROUGHT.
THE ROADS ON THE SIDE OF THE
SURFACE PREPARATION IS THE MAIN THING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, HAVE A MOTION THAT BY COUNCILMAN CHRIS THAT WE ADOPT.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 55 DASH 2023 IS WRITTEN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
WE'RE GONNA GET SOME ROADS FIXED.
NEXT ITEM WOULD BE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 56 DASH 2023 AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE ON AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR A REGIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY AND THE CITIES OF LAKE JACKSON, ALVIN, FREEPORT, ANGLETON CL IN RICHWOOD, BRAZORIA COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT, VELASCO DRAINAGE DISTRICT, ANGLETON DRAGON DISTRICT, AND BRAZORIA COUNTY CONSERVATION AND RECLAMATION DISTRICT NUMBER THREE.
AND IT WOULD BE RESOLUTION NUMBER 56 DASH 2023.
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF INCLUDE TEXAS APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITIES OF ANGLETON, FREEPORT LAKE JACKSON RICHWOOD, AND THE VELASCO DRAINAGE DISTRICT FOR A REGIONAL STORM MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHERE THE PARTIES TO THIS AGREEMENT ARE AUTHORIZED CHAPTER 7 91 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH ONE ANOTHER FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS AND SERVICES.
WHEREAS THE GOVERNING BODIES OF EACH PARTY FIND THAT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE AGREEMENT IS IN THE COMMON INTEREST OF ALL PARTIES, WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL AND
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THE CITY OF FLUTE TEXAS FINDS THE SUBSTANCE DISAGREEMENT IS NECESSARY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND TO PRESERVE THE HEALTH WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC.AND THAT EACH PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT HAS A LEGAL AUTHORITY TO PERFORM THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS AND SERVICES REQUIRED TO ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT.
NOW THEREFORE, BE RELI BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY OF CLUTE, TEXAS, THAT'S THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CLTE, TEXAS, HEREBY APPROVES AND ADOPTS THE ATTACHED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR A REGIONAL STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
ITS RESOLUTION DULY PASSED THE 12TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2023.
IT WOULD BE SIGNED BY MYSELF AND THE TESTIFY ROSA APPOINTMENT CITY CLERK.
AND WE'VE BEEN IN THIS AGREEMENT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THIS IS TRYING TO COORDINATE THE DRAINAGE FUNCTIONS BETWEEN THE COUNTY, THE CITY, AND THE MULTIPLE DRAINAGE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE.
JOHN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN GOING, BUT PROBABLY 10 YEARS NOW.
IT LEAST THE LAST TIME THAT THIS WAS SIGNED WAS IN 2018.
AND THEIR REQUEST WAS THAT WE HAVE AN UPDATED ONE TO HAVE ON FILE WITH THIS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE RENEWING THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
BUT THE LAST TIME IT WAS DONE WAS IN 2018.
I KNOW THIS WAS SIMILAR TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO.
IT'S, UH, THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY RIGHTS AND MAINTAINS IT.
ALL WE GOTTA DO IS JUST LIVE BY, WELL, STORMWATER COALITION.
IT IS A GROUP OF MEMBERS OF ALL THE CITIES AND L J A ENGINEERING IS, UH, OUT OF BEAUMONT.
THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH RO EVERYTHING TO WHERE THEY TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THE, UH, INS AND OUTS OF THE, THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THEY HANDLE THE PAPERWORK, WORK THROUGH THE P C E Q OR THEY HANDLE IT FOR ALL THE CITIES.
AND WE MEET, UH, AT LEAST ONCE A QUARTER, UH, TO GO OVER ITEMS THAT WHERE WE'VE SUPPLIED IN WITH INFORMATION WHAT THEY NEED.
AND THEN, UH, THEY, THEY HANDLE ALL THE WORK BETWEEN US AND PT C Q.
SO I GUESS WE'RE KIND OF OKAY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PART OF THE GROUP.
THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A PART OF GETTING THE WORK DONE, DONE.
WE JUST PROVIDE THEM WITH THE INFORMATION WHERE THE WORK WAS DONE AND FOR WHAT WE, WE REPORT TO THEM ITEMS THAT WE, LIKE, HOW MUCH REVIEW WE PICK UP.
IT'S, IT'S JUST, THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS THAT THEY REQUEST AND, BUT THIS HERE WAS JUST TIES TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT THE LAST TIME IT WAS WAS ACTUALLY SIGNED WAS IN 2018.
AND, AND I THINK THE LEGISLATURE A COUPLE OF, UH, SESSIONS AGO PASSED WHERE NOW ALL OF THE, THE FLOODING AND WATER FLOW AND EVERYTHING IS ON A, A VERY LARGE REGIONAL SCALE.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR GROUPS ORGANIZED TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PETITION AND DO THINGS IN A CERTAIN WAY TO GET RELIEF FROM LET'S SAY, UP RIVER AND UP, YOU KNOW.
SO IT'S REALLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION TO, UH, BE ABLE TO HAVE A FAIR SAY WITH THE OTHER REGIONS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NORTH OF HOUSTON OR WEST OF WEST OF OUR AREA.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS ORGANIZATION TOGETHER.
I WANT CAROL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 56 DASH 2023.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILPERSON MADDOX.
SECONDED BY AGUILAR COUNCILMAN AGUILAR.
HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE VOTE.
I KNOW HOW EMOTIONAL YOU GET ABOUT THE, UH, THE DRAINAGE.
GOT A PROB ALL EGGS ARE GETTING TOO
NEXT ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FIRST OF, I GOT ONE RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SPIT IN IT.
75,000 IN TOTAL FUNDING TO PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT TO, TO PROVIDE, DEVELOP AND ECONOMIC STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND COMPLIMENTARY REBRANDING FOR KLU KLUTE E D C RENOVATION INCENTIVE.
$50,000 IN TOTAL FUNDING FOR REIMBURSING GRANTS TO QUALIFYING SMALL BUSINESSES WITH RENOVATION AND SIGNED REHABILITATION COSTS AND E-COMMERCE INITIATIVE.
25,000 FOR FOR 10 BUSINESSES TO TRANSITION ONLINE.
I WOULD NOTE THAT THE 25,000 IS A TOTAL DIVIDED AMONG 10.
SO 2,500 PER PER BUSINESS THAT APPLIES.
UH, MR. AGUILAR BROUGHT BACK A REALLY GOOD IDEA FROM HIS VISIT TO DENNISON TO TRY AND GET THIS LAUNCHED.
AND THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST READING.
THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN.
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IS THE FIRST READING OF THE RESOLUTION.IT WOULD BE RESOLUTION NUMBER 57 DASH 2022.
A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CLUE TEXAS CONTAIN A PREAMBLE APPROVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO BE ENACTED BY THE CLUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24.
AND PROVIDING THIS RESOLUTION TO TAKE EFFECT BEING ENFORCED FROM AN AFTER PASS AND ADOPTION.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CLUTE, TEXAS IS HOME RULE CITY AND A HOME RULE MUNICIPALITY LYING AND SITUATED IN BRASSO COUNTY, TEXAS AS DESCRIBED HEREIN AND DEFINED BY SECTION FIVE, ARTICLE 11 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF TEXAS, THE SECTION 1.005 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TEXAS RESPECTIVELY.
WHEREAS THE CLUED ECONOMIC DEVELOPER CORPORATION E D C IS A TYPE B NON-PROFIT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AUTHORIZED UNDER TEXAS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS ACT.
TITLE 12, SECTION 5 0 1 0.01 EC, SPECIFICALLY CHAPTER 5 0 5 OF SAID ACT.
AND WHEREAS THE E D C SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC PURPOSE IS TO SUSTAIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS AND PROMOTE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
WHEREAS THE CITY AND THE E D C HAVE MADE THE SPECIFIC FINDINGS THAT THE E D C MAY PURSUE.
THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT SET FORTH BELOW THAT SAID, PROJECTS ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ACT AND THE PROJECT PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF CLU AND SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT OF SERVING THEIR PUBLIC PURPOSE.
WHERE PRIOR TO PASSAGE THIS RESOLUTION, THE CITY COUNCIL CONDUCTED TWO PUBLIC READINGS OF THIS RESOLUTION.
AN OPEN SESSION OF DULY NOTICED AND POSTED COUNCIL MEETINGS AND FURTHER FINES OF A DULY NOTICED AND POSTED PUBLIC HEARING WAS PREVIOUSLY HELD BY THE E D C ON THE PROJECTS CONTAINED HEREIN.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY OF KLU, TEXAS.
FIRST THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY OF KLU FINDS THAT THE FACTS CITED IN THE PREAMBLE HEREOF ARE TRUE.
SECOND, THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY KLU HEREBY APPROVES THE FOLLOWING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023.
LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS INITIATIVE PROJECTS 100,000 IN TOTAL FUNDING TO ASSIST SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT ACROSS THE CITY.
STRATEGIC BRANDING, BRANDING AND PLANNING, PLANNING AND BRANDING INITIATIVES.
75,000 IN TOTAL FUNDING TO PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT, AN ECONOMIC STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND COMPLIMENTARY BRANDING FOR THE CLUE E D C E-COMMERCE INITIATIVE.
25,000 FOR 10 BUSINESSES TRANSITION ONLINE.
THIRD, THAT THE FUND TO FUND THE ABOVE PROJECT HAVE BEEN BUDGETED IN NO FURTHER AUTHOR AUTHORIZATION IS REQUIRED FROM SLU CITY COUNCIL FOR THE E D C TO IMPLEMENT THE ABOVE PROJECTS.
FOURTH, THIS RESOLUTION TO TAKE EFFECT TO BEING FORCE FROM THE DRAFT SEARCH PASSAGE READ, PASSED AND ADOPTED THIS BLANK DAY, A BLANK MONTH BECAUSE THIS IS JUST THE FIRST READING.
SO IT'D BE APPROVED BY MYSELF AND TESTIFIED BY ROSA POINT OF CITY CLERK AND APPROVED AS TO FORM BY CHRISTOPHER DUNCAN CITY ATTORNEY.
NO, THIS IS THE FIRST READING YOU NO ACTION IS EXPECTED.
WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH FOR THE SECOND.
AND IT'S THIS UPON PUBLICATION AND THE NOTICE IT STARTS THE CLOCK ON THE 60 DAYS SO THAT THOSE, ONCE THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN READ TWICE AND THE RESOLUTION PASSED, WE CAN THEN ENTER, WE CAN THEN BEGIN THOSE PROJECTS.
THIS SAYS CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FIRST TWO READINGS.
DO WE NEED TO, DO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT ACTION? SAY THAT AGAIN TO APPROVE IT THE FIRST READING? NO, WE DON'T NEED A QUESTION.
WELL THIS IS JUST THE FIRST REASON WE WILL CORRECT.
WE WILL TAKE UP THE OTHER STUFF LATER.
WHAT IS THE E-COMMERCE MISSION THAT WAS ERIC'S IDEA.
OH, SO THE, THE, THE IDEA THAT E-COMMERCE INITIATIVE IS TO HAVE TO SET ASIDE $25,000, UH, FOR 10 GRANTS FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES INCLUDE THAT AREN'T, THAT DON'T HAVE ONLINE PRESENCE.
UH, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHEN, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE AN ONLINE PRESENCE, THEIR SALES TEND TO GO UP.
SO THEY HAVE LIKE A BRICK AND MORTAR THAT THEY DON'T HAVE.
WELL, AND ON THAT SAME NOTE, IF THEY GO ONLINE AND SAY SOMEBODY FROM ALVIN GOES ONLINE AND BUYS SOME SOMETHING FROM SOMEBODY, INCLUDE THE SALES TAX WILL COME TO CLUE.
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INFORMATION, OR THEY CAN CALL HERE AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT AND WE'LL SEND 'EM THE PACKET ON THE, ON THE E-COMMERCE.SO IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS TO BE ONLINE? LIKE DOES ETSY COUNT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? LIKE IF THEY HAVE A, IS THERE SOME, I THINK THE, THE IDEA WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE, HAVE A PLATFORM, UH, A WEBSITE AND A PLATFORM FOR THEMSELVES AND A MARKETING PLAN TO GO WITH THAT TO ALLOW THEM TO PROCESS.
CJ AND I WERE, UH, DISCUSSED IS TO MAYBE CREATE A, A LIST OF, UH, LOCAL PEOPLE THAT CREATE THE ONLINE PRESENCE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HELP THE BUSINESS ESTABLISH
AND THE IDEA WOULD BE, I MEAN, PERHAPS THEY COULD GO ON OR LAUNCH THEIR PRODUCTS ON ETSY, BUT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN STANDALONE SITE THAT WOULD HANDLE THE E-COMMERCE FOR THEM AS WELL.
WOULD THIS BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO SALES? YES.
THE IDEA BEING THAT YOU, IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER JAM HAS A WEBSITE.
YEAH, SO, SO THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU THEN TO OPEN YOUR WEBSITE AND START TRANSACTING BUSINESS THERE ON THE WEB.
IF YOU HAD, SAY SOMEBODY THAT YOU PICKED UP A CAR AND YOU HAD IT DOWN HERE AND THEY WANTED TO COME FROM HOUSTON PREPAY, THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU TO PUT THAT, THAT TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE.
SO JUST KEEP SHOWING ME HOW MORE I'LL TOUCH ON.
IT, IT, IT IS JUST THE WAY, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW, TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE, LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING PROACTIVE.
COME TO THE CITY RULE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP YOU OUT.
I NOTICED ON THE NOTES HERE THAT THIS WAS THE, THIS IS THREE OUT OF THE FOUR PROJECTS WE WE'LL BRING.
I KNOW THAT WE ONLY APPROVED THE THREE OF 'EM THE OTHER NIGHT.
UH, WILL THEY BRING THE FOURTH ONE BACK? WE WILL, YES MA'AM.
WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
ARE WE THROUGH DISCUSSING THAT? WE HAVE WHAT REALLY QUICK? WE HAVE, UH, THE, LIKE THE SMALL BUSINESS ASSISTANT INITIATIVE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DID WE HAVE TAKE A UP ON OUR OFFER LAST YEAR? THIS YEAR WE HAD, OR THIS PAST YEAR, ACTUALLY WE DID NOT.
WHAT YEAR ARE WE IN 2020?
WE ONLY HAD THE, UH, 1 3 80 AGREEMENT THAT WE DID WITH, UH, WITH THE SUAN DEVELOPMENT, THAT THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAYBE MARKET THIS OUT FOR YES, WE CAN.
I, I KNOW JEFF WAS ASKING HOW.
YEAH, WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T, WE SAY GO TO THE WEBSITE, BUT WE CAN TELL 'EM THAT IF THEY DON'T SEE LIKE A POSTER LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOING MARKETING REPORT, A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T KNOW.
NOW WE CAN POST IT TO THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA SITES AND, AND DRAW FOLKS IN THAT WAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM D, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 58 DASH 2023.
A RESOLUTION OF CITY OF CLUE REGARDING THE STATUS OF VARIOUS PAYMENT LIENS ON PROPERTIES ALONG PLANTATION DRIVE.
IS THERE A NEW ONE HERE I SAW, I THOUGHT I SAW, UH, MAYBE A REVISION.
UH, DO YOU, THIS ONE WAS, THIS ONE WASN'T IN THE PACKET.
THE ONE THAT WAS HERE IS THE ONE I'M SUPPOSED TO READ.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 58 DASH 2023, THE RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL IN CITY
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CLU, TEXAS PLACED PAVING LIENS ON A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES RELATED TO A PROJECT ALONG PLANTATION DRIVE IN 1981.
WHEREAS WHILE THESE LIENS ARE VALID AS CREATED UNDER ORDINANCE, THEY CREATE A NEARLY USURIOUS AMOUNT OF INTEREST IF FULLY APPLIED.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO HONOR THE TERMS OF THE PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT, WHILE CAPPING THE INTEREST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ASSESSMENTS AT A SUM NOT TO EXCEED $2,500.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY IS CLEAR THAT THIS, THIS POLICY ONLY RELATED TO THIS SERIES OF LIENS AND SHALL STILL REQUIRE PAYMENT IN FULL OF THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT PRINCIPLE ASSESSMENT PRINCIPLE, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF CLTE, TEXAS,
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THAT THE PAVEMENT LIENS PLACED IN RELATION TO THE PLANTATION STREET PAVEMENT PROJECT UNDERTAKEN BY THE CITY FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE IN 1980 ARE STILL DUE AND PAYABLE.HOWEVER, INTEREST ASSOCIATED WITH SAID LIENS SHALL BE CAPPED AT A SUM NOT TO EXCEED $2,500.
THE ORIGINAL PRINCIPLE SUM MUST BE PAID IN ADDITION TO THE CAPPED INTEREST.
AS SUCH, THE PRINCIPLE SHALL BE PAID PLUS ANY INTEREST UP TO $2,500 PER EFFECTIVE PROPERTY.
FURTHER, THE CITY MANAGER AMER, IS AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE A RELEASE OF LIEN UPON PAYMENT IN FULL OF THE ORIGINAL PRINCIPLE ASSESSED, PLUS ANY INTEREST UP TO $2,500 FOR PER EFFECTIVE PROPERTY READ PASSED AND A ADOPTED THIS 12TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2023.
IT'LL BE SIGNED BY MYSELF, TESTIFIED BY ROSIE APPOINTMENT, AND AN APPROVED SS TWO FORM BY CHRISTOPHER DUNCAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE, THE CITY, UH, PAVED REP PAVED, UH, PLANTATION STREET.
AND AT THAT TIME THEY MADE AN, AN ASSESSMENT, UM, AGAINST EACH PROPERTY OWNER ALONG PLANTATION STREET AND IS BASED ON, UH, FRONTAGE ON, ON THE ROAD.
AND THOSE, SO THOSE DOLLAR FIGURES WERE ASSESSED FOR EACH PROPERTY OWNER ALONG, UH, PLANTATION.
SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I THINK WE'VE HAD MAYBE THREE.
UM, SO SO THAT LIEN IS ASSESSED, AND THEN ALSO IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, THERE'S AN ASSESSMENT OF THE, UH, CALCULATION OF INTEREST THAT'S CHARGED, UM, ON THAT ASSESSMENT.
UH, SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN, UH, THAT PROPERTY THEN CHANGES HANDS, IT'S SOLD, THAT LIEN WILL POP UP WITH THE TITLE COMPANY AND TITLE COMPANY WILL CALL THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, UH, HOW MUCH IS THIS LIEN NOW? UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA PAY THAT OUT OF THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S HAPPENED I THINK MAYBE ABOUT THREE TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND EACH TIME, UM, IT COMES IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, UM, OF THE DOLLAR FIGURE, AND THEN APPROVAL OF, UH, EITHER THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN A RELEASE OF LIEN ONCE THAT DOLLAR FIGURE IS PAID, UH, AT THE CLOSE BY THE TITLE COMPANY FROM THE PROCEEDS.
AND SO, UM, WE HAD ONE THAT CAME UP HERE RECENTLY.
UH, LOOKING AT IT, UH, THE, AT LEAST THE ONES THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE, UH, CUT A, YOU KNOW, CUT A, A DISCOUNT ON THE INTEREST RATE BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATE THAT'S ACCRUED SINCE 1980 IS A VERY LARGE NUMBER, PROBABLY MORE THAN THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AT THIS POINT, RIGHT.
FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER.
AND SO, UM, WITH THIS RESOLUTION PROPOSAL, NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD CAP THAT INTEREST RATE AT $2,500 IN ADDITION TO THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT.
AND ALSO IT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE, UH, MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE RELEASE OF LIEN, UM, UPON THE PAYMENT OF THAT ORIGINAL PRINCIPLE AND UP TO $2,500 OF INTEREST.
AND THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE ONES THAT COME UP IN THE FUTURE.
SO THEY, THEY WOULD ALL BE TREATED THE SAME, UH, AND THEY WOULDN'T, EACH CASE CASE BY CASE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME, UH, BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
UH, IT WOULD JUST SET THE, THE GUIDELINES THAT WOULD APPLY.
AND, UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION.
THAT'S THE PROPOSAL, UH, BY STAFF IS THAT, THAT, THAT THERE'S A $2,500 CAP ON THE INTEREST.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE UP FOR THE DEBATE BY THE COUNCIL IF Y'ALL WANT TO ADOPT THAT CAP OR, YOU KNOW, CHARGE THE FULL INTEREST OR HOW Y'ALL WANNA HANDLE IT.
BUT THERE HAS BEEN A PRECEDENT SET, UH, PREVIOUSLY, AT LEAST THE LAST, THROUGH THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER, UM, THAT, UH, THAT COUNCIL HASN'T, UH, COLLECTED THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE INTEREST BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SUCH A LARGE DOLLAR FIGURE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN, THE PAVEMENT, LIKE PLANTATION WAS ACTUALLY PAID TO PUT DOWN.
IT, IT, SO, AND IT USED TO BE, UM, AND IT STILL IS ACTUALLY OUT.
IF YOU'RE IN THE COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE, IF THE, IF THE ROAD BENEFITS YOU SOLELY, THEN YOU TYPICALLY WOULD PAY AN ASSESSMENT FOR THE PAVING OF THAT ROAD TO YOUR PROPERTY.
I GUESS THE CITY DECIDED IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES THAT PLANTATION NEEDED TO BE REPAVED OR WIDENED OR IMPROVED.
AND SO THEY DID THAT AND THEN ASSESSED THE PROPERTY OWNERS BASED ON THEIR FRONTAGE ALONG WITH THAT.
WELL, MODERN THEORY IS, IS THAT YOU, EVERYBODY BENEFITS FROM THAT THE, THAT IMPROVEMENT.
SO THE TAX DOLLARS OF BOND MONEY WOULD TYPICALLY GO TO PAY FOR THAT.
AND SO WHEN THEY DRAFTED THIS, THEY BA THE BASE CHARGE BASED ON THAT ALLOTMENT, BUT THEN THEY PUT IN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INTEREST IN PENALTY IF YOU DIDN'T PAY TIMELY.
'CAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS WAS PROBABLY DONE UNDER A TIME NOTE OR A 'CAUSE THERE
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WAS ONE THAT WAS LIKE 5,700 BUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PROMPTED THIS IS THERE'S, THERE'S A PROPERTY CURRENTLY FOR SALE ALONG THE ROUTE, UH, AND THE, THE INTEREST ALONE CHARGED WOULD ADD 20% TO THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE PURCHASE OR THE PRICE OF THE PROPERTY.
IF THE SELLER OR IF THE BUYER WANTED TO PAY THAT TO, TO MAKE THE SALE, WOULD I BE OUTTA LINE IF I ESCORT THIS PROPERTY IS IT'S, UH, ON, AT DOWN FROM, UH, BETWEEN WOLFSON'S AND, UH, IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, IN THERE AT DITCH.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE DITCH FROM THE WOLFSON.
ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF, FROM YOU.
WELL, ACCORDING TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THAT PROPERTY WENT UP FIVE TIMES WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY NOT BEING WILLING TO PAY THE INTEREST.
WELL, I MEAN, I, I I I I RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THOUGHT THAT, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT THE REASON WE PUT THIS INTEREST IN THERE WAS TO GET IT PAID.
SO WHAT'S THE, IF WE REDUCE IT TO, TO, TO A LESSER AMOUNT, WHY PAY IT? JUST WAIT AND BECAUSE $2,500 BACK? WELL, I THINK, NO, IT'S, WELL, IT'S THE, THE PRINCIPLE PLUS $2,500.
THE, THE, I GUESS IT'S BEEN THE INCONSISTENCY IN THE PAST.
SOME PROPERTIES WE HAVE WAIVED OR REDUCED.
HOW MANY PROPERTIES DO YOU THINK WE HAVE THAT HAVE FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATION? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PROPERTIES WERE TOTALLY LEVIED AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
I, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT.
BUT WHEN I WAS A KID, PLANTATION DRIVE WAS A SHELL ROAD
SO WHEN THEY CAME, WELL, I REMEMBER WHEN THEY RIDE IT AND DONE IT.
WELL, WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH THERE AND DID THAT, SUPPOSED WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH THERE OR DID THAT, THEY DECIDED TO PUT THE SIDEWALKS DOWN THE STREET AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY, THAT'S WHY THEY PUT THE, UH, THAT'S WHY THEY PUT THE, UH, FEES RELATED TO THE PAVEMENT OF THE STREET, WAS BASICALLY ALSO TO COVER THE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE PLACED IN THAT, IN THERE.
'CAUSE THE SIDEWALKS WERE IN FRONT OF EACH PERSON'S PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY IT WAS ORIGINALLY, IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY WORDED, WAS THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE PAYING FOR A PAVED STREET AND THE SIDEWALKS.
THAT'S THE REASON THE, THE ASSESSMENT WERE MADE AGAINST THE PROPERTY.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL, THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT, BUT I THINK IT IS GOOD TO, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, HOWEVER MANY ARE STILL REMAIN TO HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE CALCULATION, THIS IS THE PROCEDURE.
WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF INTEREST GOING BACK TO 19 80, 81 OR WHATEVER.
OR YOU WANT SOME OTHER CALCULATION RATHER THAN THEM COME TO COUNCIL PIECEMEAL YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THEY JUST APPEAR AND MAYBE IT'S TREATED INCONSISTENTLY.
UM, TO, TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, ALRIGHT, THIS IS OUR RULE AND UH, THIS IS HOW WE'LL HANDLE IT IN THE FUTURE.
SO WHEN THEY COME UP, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME UP INDIVIDUALLY TO COUNCIL BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER CHANGES OR WHATEVER THROUGH THE YEAR AND IT MAKE IT TREATED DIFFERENTLY THROUGH TIME.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE WAY OF GETTING AN AVERAGE OF WHAT WE'VE CHARGED, WHAT WE'VE DISCOUNTED VERSUS COLLECTED? WE, YEAH.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE, I GUESS
WELL, AT LEAST TO MAIN STREET IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND MAYBE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 2 88 B, WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S 13 OR 14 REMAINING LIENS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF THOSE RELATE DIRECTLY TO THIS PROJECT.
BUT IN LOOKING THROUGH THE MINUTES, CHRIS AND I BOTH FOUND THAT WE HAVE BEEN, SOMETIMES WE'VE SAID 50% SOMETIMES WE'VE SAID, OH, WE JUST NEEDED A POLICY.
SO THE IDEA WAS IS THAT IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS IT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND IF THAT'S THE, IF THAT'S THE WHO YOU WANT US TO TAKE, WE'LL TAKE IT.
WE JUST, I THINK WHEN THE, WHEN THE JONES FAMILY PASSED AWAY, I THINK WE WAIVED THAT COMPLETELY BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH DESTITUTE.
ANYWAY, THAT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS.
NOT TO THOUGHT K IS JUST A PERSONAL OPINION.
REALISTICALLY, EACH SCENARIO IS SPECIFIC.
WELL ALSO IN 1981, THE INTEREST RATE WAS PROBABLY 16, 17%.
NOW I'M SURE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SPECIFIC.
I'M JUST SAYING IF WE HAVE REDUCED 10, IS IT FAIR TO ASK THAT WE AVERAGE WHAT THAT 10 WAS TO GET TO THIS POINT? I CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE RECEIPTS SAY AND COME UP WITH AN AVERAGE, WE'RE SCRATCHING FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN AND GIVING IT AWAY JUST SEEMS TO GO AGAINST WHAT I'M ABOUT
I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
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A 30 YEAR LOAN ON $5,700 OF PAVEMENT.AND IT'S LIKE, ARE THESE PEOPLE THEY, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T PAY.
'CAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, NO, I DON'T AGREE TO THIS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT HADN'T BEEN PAID.
OR DID THEY SIGN SOMETHING? YES, I AGREE WITH THIS.
IT'S, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ORIGINAL.
IT WAS SOME THAT AGREED THAT SAID, I'M NOT GONNA PAY IT, BUT IT JUST GOES WITH THE PROPERTY.
NO, IF YOU DON'T WANNA MOW YOUR GRASS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, SOMEBODY'S GONNA PAY US EVENTUALLY WHEN YOU SELL YOUR PROPERTY, IT'S GONNA GET PAID.
WHAT DO 19 81, 5700 BUCKS, BUCKS WAS A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT IT'S LIKE, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO SIDES ON IT.
SO IT'S LIKE, I JUST WANT TO KNOW.
WELL, AND I THINK, I THINK OUR DISCOMFORT WAS THE RATE OF INTEREST IN THE ACCRUAL GIVEN KNOWING WHAT THE MARKET'S DONE SINCE THEN.
NOW WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE'RE AT FIVE OR 6% INTEREST, BUT 16% INTEREST.
AND THEN MULTIPLYING THAT PER DAY ON A COMPOUNDING BASIS SEEMS REALLY ALMOST TOUGH.
BUT CAN WE SEE WHAT THE AMOUNT OWED TO DATE ON THE REMAINING PROPERTIES IS FOR THE PRINCIPAL BALANCE OR THE, THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST TOGETHER.
WE'LL TRY AND GET THAT PUT TOGETHER.
I THINK THE PRINCIPAL, PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST SEPARATE.
WE'LL, THE PRINCIPAL, THE PRINCIPALS DE RIGHT, BECAUSE THE PRINCIPAL AT, AT THIS RATE, THE PRINCIPAL IS PROBABLY LESS THAN AN INTEREST.
AND SO WHERE, WHERE THE $2,500 CAME FROM WAS WE TRIED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE FIVE TO 10 YEARS WORTH OF INTEREST.
SO IS YOUR 30 YEAR MORTGAGE ON YOUR HALF RIGHT.
THIS BE FAIR, THAT NUMBERS, BUT I RESPECT THE IDEA.
IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIX.
AND IF WE LET THIS ONE GO, WE CHARGE THIS ONE.
IF WE CAN TAKE AN AVERAGE OF THAT, I THINK WE'VE COVERED OUR BASE.
I DON'T, NO, THAT THAT'S, I WANT TO, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ALL.
I'D SEE, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MORE AS A WHOLE.
I WANNA SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE.
I WANT SEE THE, NOT JUST ONE CASE BALANCE OWE, BALANCE OWE PRINCIPAL BALANCE, OWE INTEREST, AND THE COLLECTIONS THAT WE'VE MADE, PRINCIPAL OF THE COLLECTIONS, WE'VE MADE INTEREST.
AND WHO STILL LEFT OUT THERE AND I, AND I THINK THAT, UM, WHATEVER THIS PARTICULAR ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THEIR SALE OR WHATEVER IS PENDING, I THINK UNTIL WE MAKE A DECISION, I THINK AT ONE TIME THERE WERE 50, 60, 70 PROPERTIES THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THIS OH, SURE.
AND I THINK THAT THE, I THINK THAT THERE WAS ONLY LIKE 20 OUT OF THE 70 THAT DIDN'T, THAT DIDN'T, THAT DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
AND SO THIS WAS A ONE TIME THING.
IT WAS SMALLER, IT WAS LARGER.
IT WAS ACCORDING TO FOOTAGE ON THAT.
IF YOU HAD, IF YOU HAD A THOUSAND FOOT A THOUSAND FOOT OF FOOTAGE, THEN YOU PAID, IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAD A HUNDRED, YOU PAID 10 TIMES WHAT THEY PAID.
AND SO, YEAH, NO, I WANNA LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE.
BUT NOBODY CAN, CAN DENY THE IMPROVEMENT.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THERE'S AN INTRINSIC VALUE TO HAVING THAT ADDED.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT WE FELT LIKE THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND BE COGNIZANT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WASN'T MORTGAGE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S TO GET TO BE CONSISTENT.
I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT $2,500 IS ENOUGH, IN MY OPINION.
SEE THIS, THIS FALLS INTO ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE A PREVIOUS COUNSEL ENCUMBERED US WITH THIS PROBLEM.
I DUNNO, I DON'T THINK I HAVE 17 YEARS BEFORE I WAS BORN.
SO
PROBABLY IF YOU LOOK BACK THAT YEAR, THERE WERE PROBABLY SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT LOST THEIR JOBS THAT YEAR.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, I GUESS LIKE, SO I, I THINK, I THINK I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THE, UH, IF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SOLD EVER SINCE THEN, IS THAT TRANSFERRING TO THE VIEW? SO IT, SHE NO, NO.
WELL THEN THAT'S MY, YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW THE STRANGLERS HAVE COME INLINE.
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IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PURCHASE PRICE TO GET THIS, YOU HAD TO RELEASE THE RIGHT.I'M KIND OF, I'M KIND OF WITH JEFF ON THAT ONE.
YOU KNOW, WHY PAY IT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S WELL, YEAH.
YOU'RE GETTING A PRETTY HEALTHY DISCOUNT.
IF, IF WE GO WITH THE 2,500, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE'VE DONE SUMMIT THIS AND SUMMIT OTHERS, AND AS THE CITY'S LIABILITY, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT.
TO ME, AN AVERAGE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FAIR HERE OUT, MAYBE, MAYBE IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO CONTACT ALL THE ONES THAT ARE LEFT AND SAY, LOOK, WE'LL CUT YOU A DEAL IF YOU GET IT PAID.
WELL, AND I WAS GONNA SAY, IN SOME CASES YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE ERRORS ON THOSE PROPERTIES NOW AND GETTING THAT MONEY, UH, ANY OTHER WAY IS GONNA BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.
BUT YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT EFFORT.
UH, JUST AND FOR OUR OWN CLARIFICATION FOR STAFF, WOULD YOU WANT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE AVERAGE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE PERCENTAGE OF DISCOUNT OR THE AVERAGE NUMBER? BECAUSE I THINK THE NUMBER WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN NO, I THINK THE AVERAGE PERCENTAGE.
THAT'S WHAT I JUST THE PERCENTAGE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT COMING UP.
WELL, THAT'S, I I THINK THAT'S THE MORE YOU TALKING ABOUT AVERAGE PRICE, IT'S HARD TO SAY THE AVERAGE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE PRINCIPAL BEING D THE LIEN, THE LIEN WAS ASSESSED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF FOOTAGE THAT YOU HAD THERE.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE IT A PERCENTAGE.
SO IF YOU DO IT PRICE, THEN THAT WOULDN'T WORK.
IF WE CAN MAKE IT, WE CAN MAKE IT A PERCENTAGE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, IT WOULDN'T EVERYBODY CHARGE, EVERYBODY WILL BE TREATED FAIRLY IF YOU HAVE A THOUSAND FOOT, YOUR PERCENTAGE TO BE 10%.
IF THEY HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT, THEIR PERCENTAGE TO BE 10, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS WE HAVE CHANGED, NOT WE, I GUESS, UH, HAVE GIVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE DIFFERENT DISCOUNTS AND WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT.
AND TO ME THAT WOULD FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT BE ZERO, THIS ONE AND A HUNDRED ON THIS ONE, THEN OUR AVERAGE IS 50 50.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER DONE.
IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S FAIR, BUT I DUNNO IF THAT'S THE BEST.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE AS FAIR AS POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO THIS NOW, THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FAIR TO THE ONES THAT WE MAY HAVE CHARGED.
MEAN YEAH, LIKE STUDENT LOANS.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE, LIKE CJ HAS SAID THAT PASSED FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE NEXT GENERATION.
THE THE, THE ORIGINAL OWNERS KNEW OF, KNEW ABOUT THE, THE BILL AND THE LIEN AND THEIR KIDS MAY HAVE NOT HAVE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE, ERIC, THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BORN THEN
SO, WELL, I GUESS, DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO TABLE? YEAH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
AND THE GOAL WAS TO GET TO A POLICY DECISION OR GET TO SOME GUIDANCE ON POLICY.
GET TO SOMETHING THAT, SOMETHING THAT'S CONSISTENT.
PAUL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, HAVE A MOTION BY ERIC AGUILAR THAT WE TABLE RESOLUTION NUMBER 58 DASH 2023 FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
COUNCILPERSON OF ALL MAKES A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR A AYE, IT'S UNANIMOUS.
NEXT ITEM WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH OH 13 IN ORDINANCE THE CITY OC INCLUDE AMENDING CHAPTER ONE 14 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CLARIFYING THE STATUS OF WATER METERS AND MOBILE HOME PARKS TO BE THE SAME AS MULTI-FAMILY FACILITIES.
AND IT WOULD BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH OH 13.
AN ORDINANCE OF CITY
SO AS JOHN EXPLAINED TO US LAST TIME, UH, WE LOOKING AT MASTER MEETING AND WHAT'S, UH, I, WHEN WE WERE RESEARCHING THE ISSUE, UH, SECTION ONE 14 DASH 44 STATES THAT THERE WOULD BE A MASTER METER PLACED ALL MOBILE HOME PARKS AND MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1976.
SO HOW WE GOT AWAY FROM THIS, I'M NOT SURE.
UH, BUT, BUT, BUT AS DISCUSSED, I WAS FIVE FOR THE RECORD
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SO, BUT UH, SO EVERYONE'S SO YOUNG TODAY,SO, UH, WE, UH, IN, IN RESEARCHING THIS, BUT WE DID NOTE THERE IS NO ACTUAL DEFINITION OF WHAT A MOBILE HOME PARK IS.
SO WE TOOK AN AMALGAM FROM OTHER CITIES AND PLACED THAT IN THIS ORDINANCE.
SO THERE'S NOW A CLEAR CUT DEFINITION.
AND THEN THIS WOULD REQUIRE REAFFIRM THE STATUS THAT THERE WOULD BE A MASTER METER AND SUBMETERING WOULD OCCUR IN THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE LINES BEHIND THAT MASTER METER WOULD BE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
WE, THERE WOULD BE NO INDIVIDUAL BUILDING TAKING PLACE IN THOSE PARKS FROM NOW ON.
SO, AND THIS INCLUDED RV PARKS TOO.
BUT, UH, IF YOU HAVE, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A, AN AMALGAM WHERE WE HAVE YEAH.
RV PARKS ARE ALREADY BEHIND A MASTER METER.
SO, UH, BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS IS YOU'VE GOT SOME MOBILE HOME PARKS THAT ALLOW RVS.
THAT, SO THAT'S THE IDEA IS WE CAPTURE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CLEAR THAT ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY WAS RIDING IN, WHETHER IN A FACILITY AT A MOBILE HOME PARK, WOULD BE COVERED BY THIS PO BY THIS PO POLICY.
SORRY, HOW MANY PARTS DO WE HAVE? MOBILE HOME PARKS APPROXIMATELY? APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO NINE.
SOME HAVE FEW, SOME HAVE A LOT, SOME HAVE THE AVERAGE.
I THINK THE SMALLEST IS PROBABLY FOUR.
AND THE LARGEST IS, I THINK THERE'S LIKE, WHERE THEY ALL WERE.
SO BASICALLY WE ALREADY HAVE THIS ORDINANCE, THIS WHAT THIS YOU, WE ALREADY HAVE THE RULE.
BUT IF WE JUST WALKED UP AND SAID, OKAY, WE'RE FORCING THE RULE NOW.
UH, THIS ORDINANCE BASICALLY GIVES A SIX MONTH COMPLIANCE DEADLINE FOR THEM TO DO THEIR PIPELINES OR RUN THEIR PIPELINE, DO WHATEVER, PUT IN THE SEPARATE METERS OR WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE DONE INTERNALLY TO COMPLY WITH THE MASTER, UH, METER, DETERMINE HOW THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A RESIDENCE.
AND IN 1976, I WAS CELEBRATING THE BICENTENNIAL IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
I'LL, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION? YES, SIR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE I A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR, THAT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH OH ONE THREE BE APPROVED.
AND I'LL SECOND HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL PERSON MADDOX DISCUSSION.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE VOTE.
NEXT ITEM IS WOULD BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH OH 14, BE IT ARTON CITY, INCLUDE MISSOURI COUNTY, TEXAS, AMENDING CHAPTER 58, HEALTH AND SANITATION, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF FACTS, ENACTMENT, RE OBSERVABILITY, EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROPER NOTICE AND MEETING.
AND IT WOULD BE FOR PERMITTING OF FOOD TRUCKS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
MR. DUNCAN, YOU WANNA OH, PINE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO, ALRIGHT, I CAN DO IT.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL RECALL, BUT BACK IN 2021 MARCH WE PASSED A, UM, FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE TO CREATE ALL THE REGISTRATION GUIDELINES AND EVERYTHING FOR FOOD TRUCKS.
UM, IN THAT ORDINANCE IT SAID THAT, UH, FOOD TRUCKS COULD ONLY BE ON, UH, PUBLIC PROPERTY.
IT COULD BE ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT ONLY WITH A WRITTEN PERMISSION BY THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER ESTABLISHES SOME SPECIFIC RULES FOR, UM, UH, FOOD TRUCK PARK.
UM, AND IT, IT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH ZONING, SO IT CAN'T BE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UM, AND, UH, AND THEN ALSO, UM, UH, SO THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE TWO MAIN CHANGES.
ALSO REQUIRE ANNUAL PERMIT FEE.
THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY HAD A $400, UH, APPLICATION FEE TO.
PRETTY PRICEY FOR, UH, TO GET CERTIFIED IN ALL IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF CLUT FOR YOUR FOOD TRUCK.
UH, THIS WOULD BE NOW HAVE A, AN ANNUAL PERMIT FEE OF $125, UH, FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH A INSPECTION, ANNUAL INSPECTION AND SO FORTH.
UM, SO, UH, A FEW CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL, UM, ORDINANCE.
AND I WOULD NOTE THAT WE'VE BEEN AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE.
OUR, OUR THOUGHT WAS, I THINK WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED BEING DISCUSSED, WE WERE, WE FELT LIKE WE
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WERE DOING DAMAGE TO OUR BRICKS AND MORTAR STORES.WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL MODEL IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE PAYING A LOT IN SALES TAX TO THOSE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO SET UP ON THE MAIN DRAGS OFF OF PUBLIC PROPERTY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, IT DOES REQUIRE A COMMISSARY OR PROOF OF COMMISSARY.
IT DOES REQUIRE THEM TO UNDERGO INSPECTION AND HAVE A VALID, UH, SALES TAX CERTIFICATE WITH THE STATE ALONG WITH THE PLEDGE THAT THOSE, ANY RECEIPTS FROM HERE THAT MONEY WOULD BE ACCRUED TO US.
UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A GREASE TRAP IN AT THE PARK AND THEN IT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME THIS AFTERNOON, WE HAVE A GREASE TRAP AT THE PARK AND POTENTIALLY A COMMISSARY SITE.
UM, THANK YOU STEVE FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT THAT AND WILL THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.
SO WE THINK WE MAY HAVE ALL OF THAT AVAILABLE.
UM, BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE THE GREASE TRAPP AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW FOR THEM TO FLUSH OUT, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS HOW, HOW ARE THEY MAINTAINING SANITATION INSIDE THE TRUCK.
UH, SOME OF THE VENDORS DON'T NEED IT.
SOME OF THE VENDORS DO, BUT WE'VE GOT, WE'RE, WE DON'T WANNA DO A CARVE OUT FOR THAT.
UH, AND THEN ON THE FEE SETTING, WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT THE STANDARD FEE WAS AROUND THE COUNTY AND WE WERE, UH, WE'RE AT THAT NUMBER.
SO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT FROM OUR ORDINANCE WITH, AS FAR AS NEEDING A BATHROOM FACILITY? SO IF YOU DO IT, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE THE WE THE IDEA IS THAT YOU'RE EITHER ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH ACCESS TO A RESTROOM AND THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE LETTER FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
OR IF YOU ARE AT A PARK, YOU WOULD HAVE THAT FACILITY.
THEY SET UP ON THE CORNER AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM PAST EXPERIENCE WITH A DIFFERENT THING TO OPEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU HAD TO HAVE RESTROOM FACILITIES.
WE, UH, IS THAT STILL IN THERE? YES, YES.
IN THE OTHER CITIES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LETTER STATING THAT THE RESTROOM WILL BE AVAILABLE WITHIN FIVE, UH, 250 TO 500 FEET.
SO IF I OWN BUSINESS A I'M SAYING YES, THEY CAN COME INSIDE AND USE MY RESTROOM.
THAT'S THE ONES THAT WE ARE THERE.
UH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A LETTER FROM THE OWNER, NOTARIZED LETTER FROM THE OWNER SAYING YES, WE'RE GIVING 'EM PERMISSION.
UH, THEN WE HAVE TO PROVE, UH, SOME CITIES ALLOW 'EM TO USE OTHER RESTAURANTS, UH, GREASE, UH, GREASE INTERCEPTORS AND GET THE POTABLE WATER FROM THOSE.
UH, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOTARIZE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE DOING IT.
OR LIKE I SAID, IF WE'RE OPENING UP OUR GREASE INTERCEPTOR AND POTABLE WATER, UH, IN THE PARK, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THAT WHERE THIS IS WHERE IT IS AND WE CAN VERIFY AND GIVE 'EM PAPERWORK.
BUT FOR THE RESTROOM IT'S JUST GETTING A LETTER AND WE CAN, UH, SET IT UP EITHER 250 OR 500 FEET DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COUNCIL PREFERS.
UH, SO THAT IF WHEREVER THEY SET UP THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE EMPLOYEES BE ABLE TO USE THE RESTROOMS. 500 FEET SMALL FOOT.
I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT CITY THAT I USED TO WORK FOR.
SO, UM, TWO 50 IS NORMALLY THE STANDARD QUESTION I HAVE DRIVEN BY, DRIVEN PAST SOME THAT ARE OVER IN SANTA FE AND THEY HAVE PORTABLE PARTIES.
IS THAT GONNA BE PERMISSIBLE? I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD ONLY WANT TO ALLOW THOSE ON A PERMANENT IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD A PERMANENT FOOD OR SEMI-PERMANENT FOOD TRUCK SITE, LIKE A PARK.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU WHEN IN RE THEY BUILT A PARK SPECIFICALLY FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND ACTUALLY THE, THEY ENDED UP BUILDING A PERMANENT RESTROOM, BUT THEY DID IT.
THEY STARTED OUT WITH PORTA-POTTIES.
NO, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO HAVE A PORT OF JOHN ON EVERY CORNER.
THAT'S, I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SOME, YEAH, I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SOME IN SANTA FE THAT HAD PORTA POTTIES.
UM, HOW, HOW SIMILAR IS, 'CAUSE I'M SURE YOU GUYS PROBABLY LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES.
HOW SIMILAR IS THIS THE ONE TO LAKE JACKSON? IT'S, WE BORROWED HEAVILY TRY NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEW, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN THE SAME PLACE, BUT I KNOW THAT'S HARD TO DO.
THAT MEANS SOMEONE WOULD'VE TO MAKE THAT THE FACILITY AVAILABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH AND SEE FOOD TRUCKS ON THE CORNER.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE TACKIEST THING CITY LAKE JACKSON EVER DID.
BUT WELL OUR, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF PROBLEMS WE GET CALLS IN AND THE SAME, WELL THERE'S ONE RIGHT THERE ON DEXA DRIVE.
THAT'S IN THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON IS NOT IN THE CITY OF INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE ALLOWED HERE AND THERE.
UH, SO, UH, BUT WE ARE LOSING TAX MONEY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THE PHASE RIGHT NOW.
EVERYBODY'S WANTING TO GO TO THE FOOD TRUCKS.
AND I, I THINK IT HAD BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR A WHILE.
IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH.
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RECENTLY, UH, I GOT A FEW CALLS FROM A FEW, UH, FOOD TRIP BUSINESSES THAT WANTED TO COME IN.I TALKED TO CJ ABOUT IT AND THEN ACTUALLY, UH, THAT USED TO BE HERE, UH, WITH CHINOS.
WHICH IS A, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN HERE IN FLEET FOR YEARS, UH, REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HEY, HOW COME, HOW COME WE CAN'T COME INTO THE CITY? UH, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE DISCUSSION AGAIN, UH, BUT I, I THINK STEVE AND CJ ARE
IF IT'S A CITY FACILITY, HEY, HERE'S THE FOOD TRUCK THAT'S, AND YOU HAVE THE PARK AND, AND HAVE 'EM THERE IN ONE SPOT, THEN IT'S NOT AS YOU, YOU'RE WHERE TACKY AS IT IS FROM THE OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW.
BUT, UH, I DO BELIEVE THE TIME IS THERE.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE HEALTH ISSUES.
AND WE WOULD DO SPOT CHECKS ON ALL OF 'EM.
VERIFY THAT THE HEALTH SIDE IS BEING MET.
AND THE INCENTIVE THERE IF YOU HAVE A PARK, IS THAT THERE'S A COMMON COMMISSARY.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS IS, YOU KNOW, GET THE COMMISSARY.
THERE IS NOT A COMMISSARY IN BRAZORIA COUNTY.
SO WE WERE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET A COUPLE INVESTORS, A UH, INVESTORS TO BRING A COMMISSARY IN.
WE ALMOST HAD ONE HERE AND THEN HE WAS GONNA OPEN UP IN ANOTHER CITY AND HE STILL HADN'T DONE IT THERE.
UH, AND A COMMISSARY, IN CASE Y'ALL DON'T KNOW, IS WHERE THEY PREPARE THEIR FOOD, UH, THEIR PREP FOOD, LIKE CHOPPING UP THEIR LETTUCE, THEIR TOMATOES AND ALL THIS.
AND THEN THEY COOK THE FOOD ON THE TRUCK, BUT THEY PREPARE AND STORE IT IN THE OTHERS.
UH, IN, IN THE PAST, IN ANOTHER CITY I WORKED IN, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WAS THEY WERE STORING FOOD AT THEIR HOUSE AND COOKING FOOD AT THE HOUSE, WHICH IS ILLEGAL AGAINST THE, THE CODES.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A COMMISSARY THAT THEY CAN DO IT.
I HAVE TROUBLE WEIGHING PROPERTY TAX VERSUS SALES TAX.
PERSONALLY, BUT THAT'S JUST I'M BRICK AND MORTAR GROUND STUFF.
IF THEY'RE PARK, IF, IF THEY'RE PARKED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES, YEAH.
WE TRY TO SELL THAT TO A RESTAURANT
BUT I, I, I RESPECT, I SEE ALL SIDES OF IT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF OPINION.
AND LIKE I SAID, IF WE, YOU KNOW, HAD TO, WE CAN OPEN IT UP AND THEN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SAY ALL RIGHT ON PLANTATION OR DIXIE AND BY ZONING ON WHERE IT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UH, SO YOU SEE SOMEWHAT CENTRALLY LOCATED IF THAT'S, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WELL, I, I, DOABLE AND I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL.
YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN SET TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK ABOUT OUR LIVABLE CENTERS PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, CENTRALIZING, UH, DOWNTOWN AREA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT, I MEAN, THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE PART OF THE PLAN.
UH, BUT THIS IS JUST THE START.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
WELL THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PART OF THE LIVABLE CENTERS WAS, WAS KIND OF AN OPEN AIR SITUATION LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A CHEAPER INVESTMENT FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO BUSINESS IN FOOD SERVICE.
BUT UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT LIKE THE IDEA OF A FOOD TRUCK.
SOME PEOPLE LIKE DRIVE THROUGH AND SOME PEOPLE WANNA GO SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE.
YOU KNOW ME, I DON'T LIKE GETTING FOOD TRUCKS 'CAUSE I LIKE TO SIT DOWN.
I DON'T LIKE TO BE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
BUT EV BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN APPEAL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE THAT TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY DISPLACING THE BRICK AND MORTAR, YOU KNOW.
CAN I ASK FIRST UNDER THAT SCENARIO, A QUICK QUESTION.
UH, UNDER THAT SCENARIO, THEY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT, THE FOOD TRUCK.
AND THAT'S SATISFIED WITH CLUE.
YOU'VE GOT A PERMIT, THE TRUCK'S OKAY.
APPROVED AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LEASE OR A SPOT ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY, RIGHT.
SO WOULD THAT INDIVIDUAL HAVE TO COME THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY COME IN FOR A PERMIT? NO, THEY WOULD, HOW DOES THAT, THEY WOULD SIGN A LETTER BASICALLY SAYING THAT THAT, UH, JOHN JOHN'S BURGER BUS IS ABLE TO OPERATE ON MY PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO MY RESTROOM FACILITIES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF NON-FOOD BUSINESSES TYPICALLY
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WILL DO ON A SATURDAY OR A SUNDAY, BRING A FOOD TRUCK IN TO DRAW FOLKS INTO THAT BUSINESS OR THAT LOCALE.UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S A MARKET, IT'S A CO-MARKETING TOOL FOR THE FOOD TRUCK AND FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESS THAT MAY NOT DO FOOD SERVICE.
AND IT SERVES AS A DRAW BECAUSE YOU GET SOME UNIQUE THINGS YOU MIGHT, MIGHT NOT GET, UH, SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I KNOW IN FULCHER WE HAD COUSINS MAIN LOBSTER TRUCK, WHICH TO ME IS, I, I'M NOT A LOBSTER GUY, BUT THEY HAD LOBSTER ICE CREAM AND LOBSTER ROLLS AND ALL THIS WEIRD STUFF.
BUT FOLKS WOULD DRIVE FROM ALL OVER HOUSTON JUST TO HIT THAT TRUCK ON THE WEEKEND 'CAUSE THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE THERE.
SO I THINK, UM, WHILE WE DON'T WANT EVERY CORNER TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK AND A, AND A PORTA POTTY, I THINK IT'S, I THINK THE MARKET WORKS ITSELF OUT.
AND I THINK ALSO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY, UH, ALONG THE HOTEL AREA BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WALK ANYWHERE REALLY.
YOU HAVE TO HOP IN A CAR TO GO SOMEWHERE TO GET SOME FOOD.
THAT MIGHT BE A, A LOGICAL, UH MM-HMM.
WELL, I LIKE THE CONCEPT AND EVERYTHING, BUT WHERE DOES THE LIABILITY COME IN? IF SOMEBODY TRIPPED OVER A, A PARKING BLOCK OR A CURB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DOES, DOES THE FOOD TRUCK HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SAFE OR REMODIFY THE PROPERTY OR I DON'T THINK OTHER THAN JUST PARKING IT THERE.
I THINK THAT FALLS ON THE PROPERTY OWNER TO, TO MAKE SURE.
SO WOULD THEY, WHEN THEY COME FOR THEIR PERMIT, THEN UH, THE CITY WOULD SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A GUIDELINE ON THAT TOO.
WELL, I THINK IT AT THAT POINT, IT BECOMES A CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN YEAH, WE ARE, WE HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE GUIDELINES, BUT INSURANCE IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
WE DON'T HAVE AN INSURANCE REQUIREMENT FOR REGULAR RESTAURANT OR BUSINESS THAT'S, THAT'S BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR LANDLORD AND MORTGAGE COMPANY AND WHATEVER.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
I KNOW WE SAID NO, NOT WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
SO LIKE, LET'S SAY WHICH OR ELK PARK OR SOMEONE WANTED TO GO, LIKE SOMETHING THERE, THEY WANTED A FOOD TRUCK TO COME IN.
IS THAT ALLOWED UNDER THAT STATEMENT OR IS THAT NOT ALLOWED? THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANTED TO AMEND OR WE COULD BRING BACK A VERSION THAT WOULD ALLOW AN AN S U P POTENTIALLY.
BUT I, I THINK THE IDEA, I'M SORRY CHRIS, I DON'T WANNA TAKE WORDS OUTTA YOUR MOUTH.
I'M, YEAH, IT'S, IT FOR THE FOOD TRUCK, IT'S NOT ALLOWED.
WE DO HAVE LIKE SOME LANGUAGE IN FOR LIKE CATERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT I BELIEVE, OR, YOU KNOW, CATERED EVENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK SPECIFICALLY THE, THE LANGUAGE FOR THE FOOD TRUCK IS THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
I MEAN, WE COULD MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ADD SOME LANGUAGE.
'CAUSE THERE IS SOME, AS I RECALL, SOME LANGUAGE, GENERAL LANGUAGE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY EVENTS, UH, LIKE LESS THAN FOUR DAYS OR, UH, I CAN'T RECALL.
BUT WE DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE FOR CATERED EVENTS AND SO FORTH.
UM, SO IF YOU WANTED TO CREATE A, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES A FOOD TRUCK MIGHT PARK AT THE SAME PLACE EVERY DAY FOR LONG TERM.
RIGHT? SO IF YOU WANNA ALLOW A SHORT TERM PERMIT, LIKE A 24 HOUR PERMIT IN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE, BUT YOU'D STILL, AND, AND OTHER CITIES THAT I LOOKED AT, THE ORDINANCES THEY HAVE, HEY, NOT WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WANTED TO ALLOW A SHORT-TERM PERMIT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 24 HOUR PERMIT OR SOMETHING IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, YOU COULD, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, BACKLASH FROM RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? HEY, I LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF COMMERCE GOING ON.
I DON'T WANT A FOOD TRUCK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A POLITICAL CONSIDERATION, NOT A LEGAL CONSIDERATION.
NOW, LIKE MRS. DUNCAN SAYING, A LOT OF TIMES RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY WAY SOMEONE WANTS TO HAVE A CATERED EVENT FROM A FOOD TRUCK, WE TELL 'EM THEY CAN COOK THE FOOD ON THE FOOD TRUCK, BUT THEY GOTTA SERVE IT INSIDE AND NOT ADD FROM, YOU CAN'T GO TO THE FOOD TRUCK AND MAKE AN ORDER 'CAUSE IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY OR OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.
SO IF THEY WANTED TO DO IT IN A RESIDENTIAL, I BELIEVE IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE CATERING WHERE THEY COULD CATER.
OR LIKE IN COLLEGE PARK, WE HAVE A, THE PARK IN COLLEGE, PARK THE CITY AND THEY COULD ASK PERMISSION TO USE THAT PARK AND THEY COULD BRING THE FOOD TRUCK.
'CAUSE THAT STILL FALLS UNDER THE CITY PROPERTY.
THAT'S, I SAY, I THINK IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BLOCK PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY GOTTA GET A PERMIT ANYWAY AND THEY'RE GONNA CLOSE THE STREET.
IF THEY'RE GONNA CLOSE THE STREET.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY CONCERN ABOUT IF YOU WERE GONNA HOST IT IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, YOU KNOW WHAT IF I'M THROWING A, A 15 YEAR OLD BIRTHDAY PARTY AND I, I DECIDE TO HAVE TWO FOOD TRUCKS PULL UP AND NOW IT'S NOT JUST THE PARTY GOERS AND ONE TO PARTAKE, IT'S EVERYBODY DOWN THE STREET AND YOU GOT A LINE OF TRAFFIC TRYING TO GET THERE.
'CAUSE I'VE GOT SOMETHING REALLY COOL HAPPENING.
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THE CATERING WOULD APPLY.UM, AND I THINK THAT IF YOU WANTED TO PUT IN A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR ORGANIZED EVENT, LIKE IF THE H O A AT WOOD SHORE DECIDED THEY WANTED TO THROW A PARTY, UH, TO CELEBRATE THEIR RESTRICTIONS, UM,
YOU ONLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
I WAS GONNA SAY MAYBE IF YOU SERVE SOME, SOME ATIONS, THEY MIGHT MIGHT BE EASIER AND SOME FREE HOT DOGS.
BUT, UH, BUT THE, OR MAYBE IF THEY, IF IF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD'S SET ASIDE, LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPERATE LIKE IN COLLEGE PARK, IT'S EASY.
THEY CAN ALREADY GO TO MILSTEAD PARK.
THEY, THEY CAN ALREADY SET UP THERE UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
IF THEY WANTED TO SET UP AT THE BOATHOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN MAYBE THE H O A DESIGNATE SET AS A SPOT AND THEN THEY COULD APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
AND THEY ALREADY SET UP AT THE BOATHOUSE ONCE.
I BELIEVE THAT WE, IN OUR ORDINANCE, WE ALREADY HAD PREVIOUSLY THAT THEY COULD DO IT AT A PUBLIC PARK WITH PERMISSION.
THAT MIGHT BE THE SOLUTION RATHER THAT RATHER THAN PULL UP ON THE PER ON THE CURB IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE OR PULL IN SOMEONE'S DRIVEWAY.
UH, I THINK UNDER THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE NOW, THEY COULD STILL DO IT IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THE, AS LONG AS IT'S AT LIKE A PUBLIC PARK.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE TWO EXAMPLES, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT WHICH WERE IN COLLEGE PARK, THERE ARE PUBLIC PARK RIGHT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE STILL ALLOWED YOU IN OUR ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW.
THERE WAS JUST A QUESTION WONDERING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE POLICY WITH THAT.
YOU BROUGHT UP A REALLY VALID POINT.
UM, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF A LONG TERM FOOD TRUCK PARTY.
BY LAW, THEY SHOULD MOVE EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO AND DUMP THEIR WASTEWATER.
THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR POTABLE WATER, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR NEW FOOD.
AND SO IF IT'S SET UP NEVER MOVED, THEN HOW ARE THEY DUMPING THEIR WASTEWATER? SO TO STAY IN THE SAME SPOT THE WAY I, I BELIEVE IT IS THAT THEY GOTTA MOVE OFF THE PROPERTY EVERY DAY.
THEY CAN'T JUST LEAVE THE TRUCK PARKED THERE OVERNIGHT.
UH, UNLESS THEY'VE DONE NO BUSINESS.
BECAUSE MOST OF 'EM ONLY HAVE 50 GALLONS OF POTABLE WATER.
AND ARE THESE LITERALLY TRUCKS OR TRAILERS INCLUDED WITH THIS TOO? TRUCKS OR TRAILERS.
BUT THEY DO HAVE TO BE MOBILE.
THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T PUT A TRAILER AND PUT UP ON BLOCKS AND, YOU KNOW, LEAVE OR DISCONNECT, DRIVE DOWN'S, GOT TRAILERS THAT NEVER MOVE AGAIN.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT IN OUR CITY.
SO NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE ALREADY US.
THAT'S WHAT BRINGS MY LONG TERM.
SO WOULD, WOULD, UH, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE IF WE SET LIKE A, I LIKE THAT OF THE BLOCK PARTY OR MOSQUITO FESTIVAL OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR WANT BRING THEM UP HERE TO SEE? I MEAN, WHERE I I I CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE A NEED WHEREAS A BRICK AND MORTAR CAN'T DO RIGHT.
BUT HAVE 'EM SET UP ON THE CORNER EVERY DAY FOR 365, SELL CAR'S RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE HO'S PAY PROPERTY TAXES.
I JUST DON'T, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT.
SO, SO I GUESS THAT'S MY CONCERN ON HOW TO DO THIS.
WOULD YOU LIMIT THE BUT THE BRICK AND MORTAR WOULD BE ABLE TO DO CATERING, WHICH IS THEY CAN'T BRING A TABLE THAT'S SET OUT HERE ON THE CORNER AND RUN A BUSINESS LIKE FOOD TRUCK CAN, I'M SAYING FOOD TRUCK.
BUT THEY CAN STILL, I THINK, BUT LIKE A BRICK AND MORTAR, THEY STILL CAN DO CATERING.
SO IF THERE'S ANY CUSTOMERS THAT DO NEED FOOD BROUGHT TO THEM, THEY CAN STILL TAKE FOOD TO THEM.
YOU CAN STILL UBER EATS OR WHATEVER TOO THINK YEAH.
WELL, I THINK THAT, SO IF YOU WANTED, I, I THINK WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO HEAD TO IS, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IS TOO LONG IN ONE SPOT.
AND SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NORM IS.
OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR THEY, THE ORDINANCES MODELS THAT WE HAD, THEY, THERE IS NO RESTRICTION.
BUT IS IT ADVANTAGEOUS TO SAY YOU CAN'T BE IN THE SAME SPOT FOR MORE THAN FIVE DAYS? WELL IT'S KINDA LIKE AN RV PARK, RIGHT? YOU CAN TELL THE GUY THAT'S BEEN THAT'S LIVING THERE YEAH.
BUT FOR, FOR US, WE, SO THE SAME THING IS GOING, I I SEE YEAH.
AND THERE'S SOME PLACES IN HOUSTON I KNOW THAT I DRIVE BY ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THE SAME FOOD TRUCKS THERE ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY, 3, 6, 5.
THEY'RE MOBILE, THEY MOVE 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO DISCHARGE THE WATER AND REPLENISH AND COME BACK.
BUT THEY HAVE, THEY SET UP, THEY SET UP A PERMANENT PRESENCE AT THAT ONE LOCATION.
AND THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE AGREEABLE OR SOMETHING YOU'RE AGAINST? RIGHT.
HOW DO THEY, THAT'S WHY Y'ALL ALL VOTE.
HOW DO THEY MAKE THEIR AGREEMENTS THOUGH? I MEAN, ARE THESE FOOD TRUCK, DO THEY MAKE LIKE DAILY OR WEEKLY AGREEMENTS WITH THE LANDOWNERS? SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, JUST VIEWING 'EM, TYPICALLY IT'S A BUSINESS WILL ASK THEM TO COME OR THEY WILL JUST SAY, HEY, DO YOU MIND IF I SET UP IN YOUR PARKING LOT AND I'LL GIVE YOU $25 FOR THE DAY OR
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$50 IF THEY, IF THE BUSINESS OWNER'S DISAGREEABLE.BUT NINE TIMES OUTTA 10, WHAT I'VE SEEN IS THE BUSINESS WANTS THE FOOD TRUCK THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT THAT FOOT TRAFFIC COMING.
SO THE LETTER WOULD, I GUESS, I GUESS WHAT STAFF WOULD PREFER IS IF WE, IF YOU, IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO LIMITING THE TIME THEY CAN BE IN ONE SPOT, IS WHAT IS THAT NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD BE, WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH? OH, I HAVEN
WELL, WHAT IS THE NUMBER? THREE DAYS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE LIKE A FOOD TRUCK.
I MEAN THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC USE.
I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I JUST STRUGGLE WITH THE GUY THAT SITS THERE WITH THE PERSON THAT SITS UP ON THE CORNER OR SITS UP ON MAIN STREET DOWN HERE COMPETING WITH
SO THERE'S DEBATE IS, BUT THERE, THERE'S COMPETITION EVERYWHERE.
BUT THEY'RE NOT PAYING PROPERTY TAXES.
THEY'RE NOT PAYING, THEY'RE PROBABLY PAYING RENT FOR SOMEBODY TO PARK THERE THOUGH.
THEY'RE PAYING THE PROPERTY OWNER RENT.
SO THE DEBATE IS, IS IT, IS IT JUST A SPECIAL EVENT YEAH.
OR IS IT, UH, MORE OF A PERMANENT PRESENCE? YEAH, IT SHOULD GIVE SOME THOUGHT.
RIGHT? WELL THEY'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL IN IT TO MAKE MONEY.
AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE NEAR THE MONEY THAT ARE BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS GONNA MAKE.
SO I GUESS THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
I'M JUST, WELL, BUT, BUT I DO, I HATE TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, BECAUSE THEY DO LIKE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE MY EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING, THEY'RE HERE IN THREE DAYS.
IT'S NORMALLY, MOST EVENTS ARE ONE OR TWO DAYS AND THEY GIVES THEM, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE THE MOSQUITO FENCE? RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, BUT THE IDEA OF SOMEONE SETTING UP AND TRUCKS I THINK I SEE IS A LITTLE BETTER THAN TRAILERS.
BUT I MEAN, I JUST SEE TRAILERS AND THE FIRST THING, YOU KNOW, THE EXTRA PROPANE MODELS UNDER IT, THE TRASH PIPE, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND IT BECOMES, THAT IS THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS WITHOUT THE COST OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.
IT IT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF OPINION, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN COLLECT ENOUGH SALES TAX OFF OF THE FOOD TRUCK TO MAKE UP.
OF COURSE WE DON'T GET ALL OF THE PROPERTY TAXES.
WE ONLY GET A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, UH, FOR THAT PERSON.
THAT FOOD TRUCK IS NOT INVESTED IN THE CITY CLERK.
HE'S PAYING TO BE IN A CITY CLERK.
HE'S NOT INVESTED IN THE CITY CLERK LIKE A BRICK AND MORTAR.
SO DO WE NEED A MOTION? AND I THINK YOUR RESTROOM ISSUES GONNA BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE ON PLANTATION I CAN SEE A CERTAIN SECTION GOING, HEY, WE WANT THIS AT SIX O'CLOCK.
AIN'T NOTHING GONNA BE 500 FEET WALK RESTROOM.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE LOCKING IT UP AND GOING 500 FEET TO WASH HIS HANDS.
OR IF THERE'S BATHROOM NO, THERE'S HAND WASHING UNITS ON, ON THE TRUCK FOR HAND WASHING BATHROOM, JUST THE RESTROOM.
AND NORMALLY THERE'S MORE THAN ONE EMPLOYEE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
I MEAN THEY CAN WORK AROUND IT, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ALL, EVERYBODY'S GOT A LITTLE TO VIEW OF IT EXPRESSING MINE.
SO IF YOU WANT A MOTION, I'LL MAKE ONE WHETHER IT OR NOT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, WE ACCEPT IT, BUT WITH A TIMEFRAME.
UH, AND IF I HAD TO BE SPECIFIC, I'D SAY THREE DAYS.
NO, THAT'S JUST ONE FOOD ON MONDAY.
'CAUSE THAT PROBABLY, WOULD THEY BE THERE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY TAKE OFF MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY TAKE OFF
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WOULD END UP HAPPENING.
SO I DIDN'T SPECIFY THAT SAME DIFFERENCE IF YOU SAY 24 HOURS.
I'M JUST SAYING NO, THAT WOULDN'T REALLY THAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S YOUR INTENTION.
IT'S NOT SO, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S EFFECT.
WELL I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, HOW YOU CAN'T SURVIVE WORKING THREE DAYS A WEEK.
THEY CAN'T SURVIVE WORKING THREE DAYS A WEEK.
WELL THEY CAN FIT THE PURPOSE OF THE FOOD TRUCK, WHICH IS BRINGING A KITCHEN ENVIRONMENT WITH FOOD TO SERVICE A SPECIFIC TIME.
WELL, I MEAN, THEY CAN'T SURVIVE ON THREE DAYS.
THEY JUST CAN'T BE IN THAT LOCATION FOR THREE DAYS.
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I KEEP SAYING THIS AND WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE OPEN.SO NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, IF YOU PHRASED IT, UH, THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITHIN A 10 DAY PERIOD AT THE SAME LOCATION, I'M GONNA HAVE TO THIS DOWN.
THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITHIN A 10 DAY PERIOD.
I MEAN I, I'VE WORKED AT A LOT OF PLANTS ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THEY LET THE TRUCKS COME IN THERE AT BREAK TIME.
THEY LET 'EM COME IN AT LUNCHTIME AND THEY LET 'EM COME IN AND AT THE OTHER BREAK TIME, THEY'RE THERE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
BUT THAT MAKE, BUT THEY'RE NOT PARKED THERE.
THEY HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC USE.
THEY COME AND THEY SHOW UP AT BREAKFAST AND THEY LEAVE.
THEY SHOW UP AT LUNCH AND THEY LEAVE THAT, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED FOOD TRUCKS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS THEIR PURPOSE.
OR THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO AND GET INTO THAT.
YOU, YOU HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE, YOU KNOW, PER SE.
LIKE SOME PLACES DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO EAT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE DOING SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE EVEN A, A WORK, JUST SOMETHING WHERE YOU DIDN'T WANT YOUR EMPLOYEES TO LEAVE THAT TO GO FIND LUNCH.
YOU'D LOVE TO SET UP THIS FOOD TRUCK THERE THAT HEY, WE GOT A CREW GOING BE HERE FRIDAY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS FOOD TRUCK, THEY COME IN, NOBODY HAS TO LEAVE WORK.
SO I THINK THEY DO HAVE A SPECIFIC USE SETTING UP A FOOD TRUCK AS A FIXTURE TO SERVE FOOD FIVE AND SIX DAYS A WEEK.
I THINK IT'S TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF OTHER PEOPLE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION WHETHER IT CARRIES OR NOT.
SO IS IS HIS MOTION TO AMEND THE, TO, TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT? THAT THE LIMITATION WOULD BE, UH, THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS OUT OF A 10 DAY PERIOD AT THE SAME LOCATION.
THEY CAN ONLY GET A PERMIT UNDER THOSE LIMITATIONS.
IS THAT TOO COMPLICATED? SO THIS MEANS, WELL THEY WOULD'VE TO HAVE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE AFTER THREE DAYS, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A, AN AGREEMENT WITH EACH PROPERTY OWNER THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE TO.
SO, SO IT'S HYPOTHETICALLY IF I SET UP AT THE CORNER OF LAZY AND PLANTATION, I COULD BE THERE THREE DAYS AND THEN I COULD MOVE DOWN TO YOU COULD MOVE ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU COULD MOVE ACROSS THE STREET AND BE THERE FOR THREE DAYS.
WHICH IS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IF THEY'RE COMING AND GOING THOUGH? WHAT IF THEY'RE SETTING UP EVERY DAY? THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOTTA FLUSH THEIR SYSTEM OUT ANYWAY.
THAT'S HOW YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A BOOT TRUCK AND PULL IT UP AND GO.
BUT IF THEY'RE LEAVING EVERY DAY, WHY ARE WE PUTTING THE LIMIT ON IT? THAT'S YOUR VOTE.
RIGHT? WELL, ONCE WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, THEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION IN EVERY ROOM.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY DON'T LEAVE IT AS A VOTE.
THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BE POLICING IT.
AND LORD KNOWS WE ALL ARE ALREADY POLICEMEN ANYWAY.
'CAUSE WE ALL CALL AND SAY, HEY, I SAW THIS.
WELL THEN WHAT'S THE ENFORCEMENT? IF THEY DON'T, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTA BE BROUGHT UP TO SOME KIND OF SEA? THEY CAN HAVE A PERMIT IF THEY'RE NOT.
DO I HAVE A, DO I HAVE A SECOND TO MR. CHRISTMAS MOTION FOR SAKE OF DISCUSSION? OH, YOU JUST, UH, OKAY.
UH, IF THEY'RE COMING AND GOING, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT A LIMIT ON IT.
I NEED A SECOND FOR SAKE OF DISCUSSION.
YES, I WILL SECOND AYE FOR SAKE OF DISCUSSION.
SO IF WE, IF WE, IF YOU WANT A TIME LIMIT, IT NEEDS TO BE DEFINED SO THAT WE CAN POLICE IT.
OTHERWISE, IF WE SAY THEY'RE COMING AND GOING EVERY NIGHT, YOU DON'T WANT TO
OTHERWISE WE CAN'T SET A STANDARD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, TO BE IN PERSON.
BECAUSE MY BIGGEST THING IS LIKE, IT IT THREE DAYS, THAT MEANS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AN AGREEMENT FOR EVERY THREE DAYS OF THE MONTH.
SO THAT'S 10 AGREEMENTS A MONTH.
IF THEY'RE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, NO ONE AGREEMENT.
THEY CAN ONLY BE IN ONE PLACE FOR THREE DAYS.
ONE AGREEMENT FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WILL COVER EVERY THREE DAYS THAT THEY'RE LATE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT EVERY THREE DAYS.
I'M SAYING, SO THEY HAVE THREE DAYS AT THIS LOCATION.
NOW THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THIS LOCATION, THE SECOND ONE.
SO THEY NOW HAVE TWO AGREEMENTS.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAN THEN JUST GO BETWEEN.
SO EVERY SIX, WELL THEY CAN'T GO BACK HERE.
SO NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE 10 DAYS, SO NOW THEY HAVE A THIRD AGREEMENT.
SO EVERY MONTH THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH LIKE THREE, FOUR OR FIVE AGREEMENTS
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OR WHATEVER.BUT MY THING IS, IS THAT IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT SO OVER COMPLICATED AND MAKE IT SO MUCH WORK, NOBODY'S PROBABLY GONNA WANT TO BRING THEIR FOOD TRUCK.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE HAVING TO GET AN AGREEMENT FOR THREE DAYS ALL THE TIME.
IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER YOU WON'T OPEN UP A PORTABLE RESTAURANT OR NOT.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S NOT GONNA LOCK IT THREE DAY.
THE PORTABLE RESTAURANTS MM-HMM.
EVERYBODY'S GOT START SOMEWHERE.
IT'S, I I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
AND WHAT THEY, WE EVEN HAVE CHARITIES THAT DO COFFEE.
WHAT WAS IT? THE BEAN, THE COFFEE BEAN.
SO THEY DO, THEY DO THE MOBILE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE CHARITY TYPE STUFF.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, BUT NOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THE BEAN PROJECT IS GONNA HAVE TO GET AN AGREEMENT EVERY DAY THAT THEY GO TO SOMEBODY'S OFFICE.
BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT JUST TO BE ON THE PROPERTY.
THEY CAN STAY UP TO THREE DAYS, BUT THEY HAVE TO GET AN AGREEMENT JUST TO BE ON THE PROPERTY FOR ONE DAY FOR 15, 20 MINUTES.
SO NOW WE ARE TELLING NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THAT'S A PORTABLE COFFEE THING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOOD TRUCK THAT SERVICES FOOD.
COFFEE FALLS UNDER FOOD ESTABLISHMENT.
AND SO THAT'S MY THING IS THAT I THINK THREE DAYS IS TOO SHORT THAT IT IS GOING TO CREATE TOO MUCH WORK FOR TOO BRING IN THE TRUCK, THE FOOD TRUCKS EVEN MAKE IT WORTH IT.
BUT NO, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
NO, THEY SHOULDN'T BE SITTING THERE FOR 60 DAYS IN THE SAME SPOT WITHOUT MOVING EVERY DAY.
BUT I JUST THINK THAT I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SET A TIME LIMIT LIKE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THEY, THEY GOTTA MOVE.
'CAUSE THEY GOTTA, THEY GOTTA RESTOCK, THEY GOTTA UNLOAD OR DO ALL THAT STUFF.
THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY SHOULD BE MOVING ANYWAY.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT A LIMIT.
AND IF WE DO PUT A LIMIT, PUT IT LIKE A WEEK OR TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT A TIME, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO MOVE OR SOMETHING.
I JUST DON'T THINK THREE DAYS IS LONG ENOUGH FOR IT TO EVEN, THAT'S JUST A LOT OF WORK FOR THE FOOD TRUCK OWNER TO FIND ALL THE LOCATIONS, GET ALL THE AGREEMENTS, AND KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
WELL, IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN'T CHANGE IT IF WE SEE IT'S NOT WORKING.
AND THEN THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE, LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE START.
YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S GONNA START PERFECT.
WE, WE CAN PASS THIS ORDINANCE.
OF COURSE IT'LL TAKE TIME, I'M SURE TO BRING IN THE FOOD TRUCK BUSINESS.
LET THEM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS NOW.
UM, AND IF WE DO HAVE THE PROBLEMS, THEN WE CAN COME IN AND CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE START SAYING WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
IF WE SEE THAT THE PROBLEMS DO OCCUR, UH, THEN WE MAKE AN AMENDMENT.
CITY UDE HAS VERY LIMITED RESOURCES PERIOD AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT.
THE MORE RESTRICTIONS WE PUT IN THIS, THE HARDER IT IS FOR OUR GROUP TO TRY TO POLICE THE AREA.
AND WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PUNISHMENT? YEAH.
THAT'S ANOTHER, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
WHAT IS THE PENALTY? WHAT IS THE PENALTY FOR ONE OF THE VIOLATIONS? YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN REVOKE THEIR PERMIT.
SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE OTHER SIDE IS THE CUSTOMER.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MOST OF THE POLICING THAT GOES ON THE CITY OF KLU RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY FROM SOMEBODY REPORTING SOMEBODY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FROM US ACTUALLY FINDING IT.
A LOT OF THE STUFF, UNFORTUNATELY, I, WE FIND A LOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK WE'LL FIND BUILDING WITHOUT, BUT I MEAN, TYPICALLY, I MEAN IT'S LIKE TODAY I FOUND SOMEONE DOING A, UH, POPUP TENT SALES NOT ON THEIR LOCATION, SO I HAD TO SHUT YOU DOWN.
BUT TYPICALLY, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE GET
I MEAN A LOT OF THE, I MEAN I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR 18 YEARS ALMOST.
AND A LOT OF OUR, A LOT OF OUR POLICING OVER THE YEARS HAS CAME FROM OUR SANITATION GROUP SEEING SOMETHING ON THE, UH, UH, ABANDONED CAR OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, REPORT YEAH.
SERGEANT PARKER TOGETHER AND TALK TO EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT, I MEAN, WE GOT TWO OF Y'ALL NOW.
WE HAVE THREE, TWO PLUS MY, UH, DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE CERTIFIED.
SO WE'VE GOT TWO AND A HALF BECAUSE
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HE BETTER BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE.BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE MAKE IT TOO RESTRICTIVE, WE MAKE IT HARD ON OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS, AS AS THE CITY ITSELF.
SO I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT IF I'M GONNA BE IN BUSINESS THREE DAYS A WEEK, IT'S NOT BEING IN BUSINESS.
YOU KNOW, AND WE DO HAVE BRICK AND MORTARS THAT ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SAME THING.
SO RIGHT ACROSS THE, AND THE BAD PART ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE BAD PART ABOUT PUTTING THE RESTRICTION ON THE SAME, SAME SPOT FOR THREE, FOR THREE DAYS AT A TIME.
IF THERE'S FOUR, FOUR ADDRESSES STACKED UP NEXT TO EACH OTHER, HE'S GOT A PERMIT WITH EACH FOUR OF THEM.
I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT I COULD SORT OF SEE THAT TAKEN, GETTING, TAKEN ADVANTAGE ON 2 88 B.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BE MORE THAN CASE.
THEN HE GOES BACK TO THE OTHER ONE.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE, THERE'S WAYS TO GET AROUND.
THERE'S WAYS TO GET AROUND WHATEVER WE PUT IN HERE.
SO MS. MADDOX, ARE YOU, I'M KIND OF A ALONG THE LINES OF LIKE TWO WEEKS AT A TIME.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A BEGINNING POINT AND IT CAN BE MODIFIED AT ANY POINT IN TIME WITH A SIMPLE MEETING AND WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF IT GETS OUTTA LINE, WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TODAY.
IT WOULD BE HAVE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A VERY BAD FOOD TRUCK EMERGENCY TO MAKE THAT, UH, MAKE, MAKE THAT LOGICAL LEAP FOR THAT ONE.
IF IT'S HEALTH RELATED, I CAN CALL EMERGENCY MEDIA OR MEDIA.
SO IF, IF, SO MS. MADDOX, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE MORE TIME OR YOU WE NEED A STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN VOTE ON THE AMENDED.
WE, WE HAVE PARLIAMENTARIAN HERE.
WE NEED, IF Y'ALL HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE, WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT'S PENDING RIGHT NOW AND WHICH WOULD BE COUNCILMAN CHRIS MOTION OF THE THREE DAYS OUTTA 10 AND GO FORWARD ON THAT MOTION.
AND THEN IF IT PASSES, IT PASSES.
IF IT FAILS, THEN Y'ALL CAN OFFER ANOTHER OPTION.
IT WOULDN'T BE AN AMENDED MOTION UNLESS HE AGREES TO AMEND IT, BUT, WELL, I'LL YEAH.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE ON THE EXISTING MOTION.
NOW THEY CAN TAKE, NOW ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY WANT.
MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 14 IS WRITTEN.
MYLAR, THAT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH OH 14 BE PASSED AS READ.
SO THIS, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT AT ALL.
CORRECT? AND JUST THE, THE WAY IT'S LIKE I SAID, IF WE, IF WE HAVE ISSUES AND LIKE I SAID AND LIKE JUST SAID, YOU'LL BE BACK.
YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN COME IN, WE CAN AMEND IT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT, AND THIS IS HEALTH AND WELFARE RELATED.
SO I WOULD PRESUME THAT THE WAITING PERIOD COULD BE WAIVED ON A SPECIAL MEETING.
MINE UNDERSTANDING THAT I CALLED A SPECIAL MEETING THE NEXT DAY ON, ON LIFE AND HEALTH MATTER.
YOU DON'T PASS THIS IF I, I'M SORRY.
THIS DOES SAY REQUIRED INSURANCE AND I THOUGHT WE SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE AN INSURANCE REQUIREMENT.
WELL, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR LIABILITY INSURANCE.
THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSED WAS, OKAY, THE OWNER WHO, WHO, WHO HAS, I GUESS OKAY, IF THEY TRIP AND FALL OUTSIDE OF THE FOOD TRUCK, RIGHT.
THE PROPERTY OR THE TRUCK OWNER RESPONSIBLE FOR INJURIES THAT'S BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE RENTER.
BUT IS THE CITY REQUIRING IT? IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMIT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR, THEIR LIABILITY ON THEIR OPERATION, BUT IT DOESN'T RELATE TO THE PROPERTY OR ANY INJURIES THAT OCCURS THERE.
THAT'S BETWEEN THEY AND THEIR INSURANCE AGENT.
AND IF THE PARTY THAT'S INJURED WANTS TO SEEK RETRO SEEK RECOMP RECOMPENSE FROM THE FOOD TRUCK AND THE PROPERTY, THE WAY IT WORKS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET SUED ANYWAY.
SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER IF THE PROPERTY OWNER, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS VERY LEGAL WISE AT ALL,
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HE WILL HAVE A RIDER CLAUSE THAT PROTECTS HIMSELF.YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, YEAH.
HE PROTECT HIMSELF AS PROPERTY.
HE WOULD, HE WILL NAME, HE WILL HAVE, HE WILL HAVE THE FOOD TRUCK NAMED HIM AS ADDITIONAL INSURED.
IF HE DOESN'T, HE'S, IF HE DOESN'T, HE'S MAKING HIMSELF LIABLE.
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND HEARING NONE.
[V. CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION - 551.087 ]
NEXT ITEM IS A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION.CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION AS AUTHORIZED BY DETECTIVE OPEN MEETINGS ACT 5 5 1 0 7 1.
GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING, PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, SETTLEMENT OFFERS OR OTHER MATTERS IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER THE DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CODE OF STATE OF BAR TEXAS.
CLEAR CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER 5 5 1 GOVERNMENT CODE.
WE WILL BE HAVING A DISCUSSION OF IMMINENT DOMAIN AND A DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE LITIGATION WITH WASTE CONNECTIONS.
I'LL CONSIDER A MOTION TO COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL PERSON BOND.
NEXT ITEM IS ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF CLOSE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN THIS EVENING.
[VI. NOTICE/ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS ]
NEXT ITEM WILL BE NOTICE AND ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS, TACULAR DRIVE THROUGH TRICK OR TREAT FLUTE MUNICIPAL PARK, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 26TH AT 6:00 PM ELECTION DAY TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH, 2023 AT THE INCLUDE EVENT CENTER.7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER THE NINTH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM VETERAN'S DAY.
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER THE 11TH, 2023.
CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FRIDAY, NOVEMBER THE 10TH AND WE WILL BE CALLING A POSSIBLE SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK.
AND THE, UH, DON'T FORGET TO JUDGE THE COLORING BOOKS IN THERE, THE PICTURES AND THE, AND THERE ARE 24 OF THEM.
SO THERE, THERE ARE 24 OF 'EM.
I ONLY SAW 12 WHEN I CAME IN, BUT THERE ARE 24.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PICK THE TOP 12.
THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ADJOURN.
SO MOVE MOVED BY COUNCILPERSON BOND AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR PENDING.