[I. COMMENCEMENT]
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NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE PLANNING IS ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF CL, CITY OF CLUTE, TEXAS WILL MEET IN A REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2023 AT 6:00 PM INCLUDES CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 1 0 8 MAIN STREET, CLUTE, TEXAS 7 7 5 3 1.FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BELOW LISTED ITEMS, THE P AND Z RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN AND EX INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SECTIONS 5 5 1 0.071.
CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY, 5 5 1 0.072 DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY, 5 5 1 0.073 DELIBERATION ABOUT GIFTS AND DONATIONS.
5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SECTION 3 2 1 0.32 SALES TAX INFORMATION.
THE AGENDA AND MEETING LINK ARE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWW.KLUTEXAS.GOV.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS COMMENCEMENT AND WE'VE CALLED INTO ORDER.
UH, GERALD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAVE US IN OUR INVOCATION? GOD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF PRAYER.
WE JUST THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE TODAY, LORD, AND UH, TO FURTHER YOUR, UH, KINGDOM BUSINESS, LORD, AND FOR THE CITY BUSINESS HERE.
ALSO, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU WILL GUIDE US TONIGHT, LORD, AND DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE, THAT IT IS IN YOUR WILL, THAT WE DO THIS.
YOU COULD JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE, OUR PLEDGE PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FACTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO LIBERTY ION FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITH COMMUNITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NEXT ITEM BE ROLL CALL MEMBERS.
[II. CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT.MAY IS, UH, MINUTES FOR THE MEETING AT AUGUST 1ST.
YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU.
SOMEBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.
UH, SOMEBODY WHO WAS THE MOTION? DAVID.
UH, WE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND.
[III.A. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOING PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR GROUND FLOOR RESIDENCE AT AN EXISTING STORAGE FACILITY LOCATED AT 921 SHANKS STREET (PROPOSED JPH DATE: 1/11/2024 @ 7:00 P.M.]
THREE, BUSINESS ITEMS ITEM A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR GROUND FLOOR RESIDENCE AT AN EXISTING STORAGE FACILITY LOCATED AT 9 21 SOUTH SHANK STREET OR SHANK STREET.PROPOSED JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE WOULD BE 1 11 20 24 AT 7:00 PM WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THE BUSINESS OWNERS HERE.
MY OBJECTION AND I'LL REFRESH THE, UH, COMMITTEE'S, UH, MEMORY, WE GRANTED THIS SUPA WHILE BACK ON THE BASIS OF THE, I THINK IT WAS THE RESIDENCE, GROUND FLOOR RESIDENCE, UH, IN A CT OR C ONE HAS TO BE ABOVE THE BUSINESS.
WE ALLOWED IT TO BE ON THE GROUND.
UH, THEY'VE ALSO GOT THE, UH, THE STORAGE FACILITY THERE AT THE END OF SHANKS.
AND SO THEY'VE CHANGED OWNERSHIP.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAVE PURCHASED THE BUILDING OR PURCHASED THE BUSINESS.
NO, BEN GOLDEN AND YES, WE HAVE PURCHASED IT.
AND SO, UH, BECAUSE IT'S AN SUP, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THAT EXPIRED ON OUR, THE EXCHANGE OF OWNERSHIP.
SO WE'RE ASKING THEM NOW TO APPROVE THE A RENEWED SUP.
UH, THEY DON'T INTEND, I BELIEVE, TO WRITE IT OUT.
UH, NOT THE INTENT, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'D BE FOR WATER FOR THE OFFICE.
WE DON'T HAVE TOILETS OR ANYTHING.
NOW, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED? SEE, THAT'S A C ONE ZONE.
AND SO, UH, IN C ONE, IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, IT HAS TO BE ON THE SECOND LEVEL ABOVE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE ISSUED THE SUP PREVIOUSLY, EVEN THOUGH HE DOESN'T INTEND TO RENT IT, OUR THOUGHT WAS JUST TO PUT A BELT AND SUSPENDERS ON IT IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO HAVE AN ONSITE MANAGER.
THEY'VE GOT THE RESIDENCE THERE, IT EXISTS NOW THIS WAY THEY, THEY'RE COVERED IF THAT'S WHAT THEY END UP DOING, SO, CORRECT.
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IT WOULD BE A BUSINESS EMPLOYEE.THAT WOULD BE, IF, IF THEY DECIDED TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE AT THEIR DIS THEIR DISCRETION.
THAT WOULD BE THE REQUEST IS THAT IT REMAINS AN OPTION.
IT STILL IS A, AN APARTMENT OR A, A FACILITY? WELL, UH, LET ME MAKE, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT CLEARER FOR ME.
UH, IT WILL NOT BE, UH, A RESIDENTIAL THAT WOULD GO OUT FOR RENT INCOME AND ALL TO ANYBODY.
IT'S, IT'S AN EMPLOYEE OR OWNER OR WHATEVER THAT WILL BE STAYING THERE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AREA, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT COULD BE USED FOR RENTAL PROPERTY.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S THE SAME AS WE ALREADY HAD DID BEFORE.
THAT WAY THERE'S NO CONFUSION.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? SOMEBODY'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
[III.B. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED CHURCH TO BE LOCATED AT 119 BRAZOSPORT BLVD N. (PROPOSED JPH DATE: 1/11/2024 @ 7:00 P.M.)]
IS ITEM B.CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECOMMEND THE SETTING OF A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED CHURCH TO BE LOCATED AT ONE 19 BRASS PORT, UH, BOULEVARD.
PROPOSED JOINT PUBLIC HEARING DATE WOULD ALSO BE JANUARY 11TH, 2024.
AND TO CLARIFY THIS, IT HAS THIS ADDRESS ON THE FRONT PAGE SAYS ONE 19, BUT IN HERE HAS A DIFFERENT ADDRESS.
SO THIS IS, WE HAVE THIS ISSUE WITH THIS SHOP.
THIS IS THE OLD SAFEWAY CENTER WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE OWNERS, MULTIPLE ADDRESSES, AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS MAKE PERFECT SENSE.
UM, THE PROBLEM IS, IS CLEANING UP THE ADDRESSING AT THIS LOCATION.
IDEALLY IT'D BE 1 0 1 BRAZOSPORT WITH MULTIPLE SUITES, BUT SOMEHOW SOME WAY WE GOT IT SUBDIVIDED AND ALLOWED IT TO TAKE OUT.
I THINK AT ONE POINT WE HAD 11 OWNERS, NOW WE'VE GOT SIX OWNERS ON THAT SITE.
UM, AND WE'VE ASSIGNED EACH OWNERSHIP GROUP THEIR OWN ADDRESS.
UH, NOT THE WAY WE WOULD'VE DONE IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF STUCK WITH NOW.
SO, JERRY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHICH SUITE THEY'RE GONNA BE IN? I'M SORRY, I WAS
WHICH WHICH, WHICH SUITE IN THE SHOPPING CENTER WE KNOW SHOULD BE IN THE P ON THE INSIDE PAPER IT SAYS 1 0 9.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR BEFORE SHE RIGHT.
DOES WHAT SHE HAS 1, 1 9, 1 19.
YEAH, IT DOES ON THIS, BUT THEN IT SAYS 1 0 9 ON CITIZEN.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD WITH ONE 19.
THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA GO IN THE PAPER.
YEAH, IT'LL BE IN, IN WHAT WOULD BE SUITE NINE AT 1 0 1.
LIKE I SAID, THE ADDRESSING THERE MAKES NO SENSE, BUT NEITHER DOES THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN SUBDIVIDED SO MANY TIMES.
SO WOULD THAT BE 1 0 9 ROAD 40 BOULEVARD, SUITE ONE 19? IT COULD BE, BUT IT'S NOT ADDRESSED THAT WAY IN OUR SYSTEM AND IT'S NOT ADDRESSED THAT WAY FOR 9 1 1.
THAT WAS THE, THE ISSUE IS YOU'VE GOT OUR ADDRESSING THE CAT ADDRESSING 9 1 1 ADDRESSING AND THEN THE ACTUAL SERVICE ADDRESS FOR CENTER POINT.
AND THE ONE 15 IS THE SUITE OWNED BY THE CO THE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE LEASING IT FROM, WHICH IS WHY THAT NUMBER SHOWS UP IN THE BLUE.
DOES, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THIS OTHER DON'T THAN WHAT IT SAYS HERE? DO THEY WANT TO TELL US ABOUT IT OR DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN YOUR CHURCH AND IS IT, IS IT OKAY IF I TRANSLATE FOR HIM? SURE, SURE.
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SO HE IS EXPLAINED THAT WE'RE, HE WANTS TO OPEN THE CHURCH, BUT THEY'RE FIXING THE RESTROOMS. THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX THE ISSUE WITH THE ADDRESS AND THE SIGN.30 TO 35 PEOPLE AND SERVICES WHAT DAY? YES, FROM MONDAY TO MONDAY.
SO, UM, 10:00 AM 4:00 PM AND 7:00 PM WE DID.
SO THREE SERVICES A DAY, DAILY, UH, ON SITE, 30 TO 35 PEOPLE.
UH, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES? YOU HAVE AN ABUNDANCE THERE AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT SAYS 50 IN PAPER.
YOU, YOU, YOU'VE, THAT'S A SEA OF CONCRETE IN THAT PARKING LOT, SO YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOMS.
WELL, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M THINKING IS, UM, UH, YOU SAID HOW MANY PEOPLE? 35.
MAX, MAX WHAT TIME OF THE SERVICES? SO THERE'S ONE AT 10:00 AM 4:00 PM AND 7:00 PM EACH DAY.
BUT YEAH, BUT EACH, IT'S JUST AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO COME THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
BUT THEY'RE HAVING THREE SERVICES EVERY DAY.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE, WELL, SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
SO IN TOTAL OF, OF, FOR THE CHURCH, THERE'S 35 PEOPLE.
SOME MIGHT COME LIKE, LET'S SAY SEVEN ON MONDAY AND SO AND SO.
BUT THE MAIN DAY WOULD BE SUNDAY.
SO YEAH, SO THERE'S THREE SERVICES JUST IN CASE PEOPLE WORK IN THE MORNING OR IN THE AFTERNOON.
SO, AND NOT ALL 35 PEOPLE WILL COME LIKE AT EVERY SERVICE, BUT JUST ANY SUNDAY.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T A SALES TAX GENERATOR, UH, THIS WILL BE PREFERABLE TO SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT OCCUR IN THAT, THAT AREA.
'CAUSE WE, WE, WE HAD THAT SAME INSTANCE ON PLANTATION WITH
ALL ACTIVITIES WILL BE INSIDE.
THERE WON'T BE ANY KIDS RUNNING AROUND IN THE PARKING LOT.
A PLAYGROUND OR WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO IS, I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA HELP.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA HELP THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY NEED SOME REPORT THAT'S ABOUT 40% OF OUR CALLS IS THAT CORNER.
SO I THINK HAVING A FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATION MIGHT BE A GOOD THING.
IS IT A NON-DENOMINATIONAL OR YES, SIR.
SO ANY KIDS, ANY CHILDREN, ANY YOUTH WILL REMAIN WITHIN THE FACILITY.
THERE WON'T BE ANY ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE.
AND WHAT IS IT THE, THE OCCUPANCY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? UH, FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? I, I DON'T HAVE HIS NUMBERS.
DO YOU HAVE A IT'S GONNA BE LARGER THAN WHAT HE'S, OKAY.
I WOULDN'T THINK, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE SMALLEST SPACE IN THERE IS RATED FOR 50, SO I THINK HE'S OKAY.
AND IT'S GOT ACCESS IN IT BOTH FRONT AND BACK.
HE'S GOT TWO ACCESS, RIGHT? YES.
HE'S GOT A REAR ACCESS FIRE DOOR, AND THEN HE'S GOT THE FRONT ACCESS OUT THE FRONT DOOR.
UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF UPGRADING THE FIRE LINE INTO THIS SHOPPING CENTER, UH, TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY FOR, FOR, UH, OVERHEAD SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. OKAY.
IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE REQUIRED IN A, IN, IN AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THAT? NOT FOR THIS SPACE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN WHAT THE ACTUAL NFPA CALLS FOR.
UH, THERE'S ANOTHER SPACE DOWN, UH, HE'S TRYING TO REMEMBER CLOSER TO THE ECHO THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY LEASE OUT, AND THAT'S WHY LAUNDROMAT WITH THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAUNDROMAT.
OTHER SIDE OF THE LAUNDROMAT? YES, SIR.
I DON'T TALK LOUD ENOUGH SO THEY HAVE TO PICK UP ANOTHER MICROPHONE, BUT LONG STORY SHORT, THERE'S MORE THAN ADEQUATE SPACE HERE, BUT IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH THAT IT REQUIRES, SAYS SPRINKLER AT THIS TIME FOR THIS SIZE.
WITH IT BEING A CHURCH-BASED, ARE THERE ANY LAWS OR RESTRICTIONS THAT, THAT WE KNOW OF? IF THEY MOVED IN, WE'D AFFECT ANOTHER BUSINESS.
SO THERE WOULD BE, YOU HAVE A GRANDFATHER AT IMPACT AT BOTH OF THE STORES THAT SELL LIQUOR, BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE IN SITU FIRST, THEY HAVE NO ISSUES AT THIS TIME.
SO IF ONE OF THEM WAS TO SHUT DOWN
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YES.IT WOULD BE HARD FOR, THEY, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO UP WITH, THEY'D HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING THEIR TABC PERMIT, REOPEN LICENSE BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE CHURCH.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CHURCH SURE.
AND I'M NOT, I'M, I'M ASSUMING, AND, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, YOUR, YOUR PLAN IS TO GROW YOUR FLOCK AND MOVE INTO YOUR OWN BUILDING AT SOME POINT? YES.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HURT THAT, THAT END OF THAT, THAT AREA.
WELL, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT AS FAR AS THE SAFETY SIDE FOR IF THERE WAS OUTSIDE KID ACTIVITY.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO GO IN THERE AND, AND DO THE SERVICE AND ALL.
AND SO THE PARENTS WOULD HAVE, UH, THEY WOULD SAY, WELL GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY.
AND SO THAT WOULD PUT A BURDEN ON, ON SAFETY FOR THE KIDS AND A BURDEN ON YOU ALL.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU ALL WOULD'VE TO WORK OUT? OF COURSE.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YOU GOT A CONVENIENCE STORE THERE, FOOD MAR, AND THERE'S THIS STRIP CENTER.
IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY QUESTION? UH, IS THERE A METHADONE STORE, TREATMENT CENTER THERE? THERE'S A TREATMENT CENTER ACROSS YES.
YOU GET THE, IS THERE ANY SQUARE FOOTAGE OR DISTANCE OR SEPARATION? UH, NO, BECAUSE THEY DO THAT, THAT THE ONSITE REHAB OR THE COMMUNITY-BASED REHAB HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AS WELL.
AND THERE'S NO RESTRICTION THERE, SO.
AND THE, THE NEW STATION THEY'RE PUTTING IN THERE, I ASSUME THEY'RE GONNA SELL ALCOHOL, BUT WE'RE OUT OUTSIDE OF THAT DISTANCE.
ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE ADD MOTION.
HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. COLE PEPPER.
ANYBODY LIKE TO SECOND? I'LL SECOND AND SECOND FOR MR. TWEEDLE? UH, NO MORE DISCUSSION.
THAT MOTION? WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING.