[I. COMMENCEMENT]
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MEETING HAS NOW BEEN CALLED TO ORDER. MR. BOND, WOULD YOU CARE TO GIVE US A BLESSING THIS AFTERNOON FOR THIS EVENING? DEAR FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO COME HERE AND BRING OUR PETITIONS BEFORE YOU, LEAVE ORIGIN, WE JUST ASK THAT ALL THE DECISIONS MADE, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO AS A CITY THAT WOULD REPRESENT OUR CITIZENS. WELL, LORD, WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL OUR EMPLOYEES WHO HELPED MAKE OUR CITY GREAT.
LORD, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BRING YOUR BLESSING UPON US.
YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. NO ONE IS GOING TO PLEDGE.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. NOW I HAVE A ROLL CALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
CALVIN SHIFLETT. PRESENT. JEFF. CHRIS. PRESENT.
ERIC AGUILAR. PRESENT. NICOLE. MADDOX. PRESENT.
JOE. LOPEZ. PRESENT. FRANCIS. VAUGHN. PRESENT.
[Ill. CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEMS UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE OR GENERALLY ENACTED IN ONE MOTION.TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ACCOUNTS PAYABLE REPORT.
TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MOTION BY COUNCILPERSON MADDOX.
SECONDED. I'LL SECOND. COUNCILMAN AGUILAR. ANY ITEMS NEED TO BE REMOVED.
I WOULD LIKE FOR CLARIFICATION. ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.
REPORT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND IT'S PARTICULARLY FOR CLARIFICATION, AND I ASSUME THIS MAY BE FOR JOHN.
WE'VE GOT A UNITED RENTALS, A PRETTY HEAVY BILL.
AND IS THIS SOME JUST IT SAYS IT'S FOR SUCTION DISCHARGE HOSE.
CHOSEN? YES. ALL THAT BILL WAS FOR THAT. SURELY THAT'S FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
BUT WE HAVE. ACTUALLY, NO, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THAT.
WE HAVE A PUMP OVER TO THE STATION RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
CAN WE HAVE THAT ON STANDBY? SO IT'S ACTUALLY COMING HOME FOR 16? YES, YES. WE JUST RETURN OF THAT. WE'VE RETURNED TO THE ASSUMPTION THAT THREE IS DISCHARGED TODAY.
SO WE STILL HAVE 102 DAYS UNTIL ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS STATIONS OVER HERE.
WE HAVE TO PUT THIS STATION ACROSS THE TRACKS.
OKAY. JUST I GUESS FOR LATER CLARIFICATION, THIS SIX INCH PUMP IS ARE WE HAVE A SIX INCH PUMP.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE BOTH PUMPS OVER THERE, BUT THEY ACTUALLY BELONG THERE, YOU KNOW, OVER THERE.
PUMP IS MISSING IN CASE WE HAVE A HEAVY RAIN.
WE CAN USE THAT. PUMP IT INTO THE FORCE, MAN, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER PUMP THERE.
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THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO SET UP INSIDE THE WET.WELL, WELL, AT WORK OUT THERE, WE HAD TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC DID NOT DRIVE WELL.
THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THE DRIVEWAY. DO WE HAVE TO PUMP IT OUT THERE? SO IT WASN'T DOING IT AT ALL. SO IT WAS JUST SIX INCH PUMPS, NOT SIX INCH, CORRECT? NO, WE WE WE'RE RUNNING TWO SIX. WE'RE RUNNING TWO SIXES.
THE VOLUME OVER THERE IS SUCH THAT WE HAD TO GET A SECOND SIX INCH PUMP.
MAKE SURE GOT DRY. I GUESS JUST I WAS, I WAS CURIOUS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO POSSIBLY LOOK AT GETTING? SINCE WE HAVE A SIX INCH NOW OF OUR OWN. WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR ONE.
WE HAVE TWO. ONE IS WE'RE FIXING THE TWO LOTS OF WORK.
WE HAVE ONE IN THE BUDGET THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN PURCHASING.
BUT THIS WAS THIS ONE THAT WE HAD THE CAR WITH.
NO ONE WAS SO RELIABLE. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS. COMMENTS ON THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.
HEARING NONE. I HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND. I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION
[IV. BUSINESS ITEMS]
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 30. DASH 2025, ACCEPTING FACILITIES DAMAGE MITIGATION REPORT FROM CIVIL COURT AND APPROVED TASK ORDER.AT THIS TIME, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM.
WE'RE ASKING APPROVAL OF THE REPORT AND ON THE TASK ORDER.
I ASKED THEM TO LOWER. THEY LOWERED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO MODIFY THIS TASK ORDER TO REDUCE THE CHARGES RELATED TO SITE VISITS, CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, AND BID TABULATION.
THAT WOULD REDUCE THEIR TOTAL BID BY ABOUT $27,000.
SO THEY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF JUST OVERSEEING THE PROJECT.
AND I MEAN, THEY'VE COME OUT, THEY LOOKED AT ALL THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PICK THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND OVERSEE IT, OR THIS WOULD THEY WOULD HANDLE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
THEY WOULD DEVELOP THE PROJECT FOR US, DEVELOP A BID PACKET FOR US, PUBLICIZE THE BID PACKET.
WE WOULD HANDLE THE SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTORS, OKAY.
AND THEN WE WOULD HANDLE THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, THE DRAWS AND THE SUPERVISION, THE SITE SUPERVISION. THEY'RE WANTING TO CHARGE US 40 HOURS OF BID SELECTION AND ANALYSIS, WHICH WE THINK WE CAN HANDLE IN-HOUSE, AND 52 HOURS OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, WHICH WE THINK WE CAN HANDLE THE HOUSE AND THEN 40 HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS MONITORING. THEY ESTIMATE IT'S GOING TO TAKE EIGHT WEEKS ONCE THE PROJECT BEGINS.
AND AS MAYOR POINTED OUT, THAT'D BE FIVE HOURS A DAY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD FIVE HOURS A WEEK, FIVE HOURS A WEEK.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED THAT MUCH INSPECTION.
I DON'T WANT TO GO CHEAP, BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT THIS NUMBER IS.
IF WE ACCEPT IT. HAVE A SIGN IN, SIGN OUT. IF I DON'T SPEND 40 HOURS, THEN THEY DON'T GET PAID FOR.
THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU. AND I GUESS TO BE FACTUAL, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? IF THERE IS A MISTAKE AND WE CHECK THAT, THAT PUTS US BACK ON US.
FOR THE LIABILITY. WELL, THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CONTRACT.
WELL, OKAY. THAT'S YOUR JOB. WE'RE GOOD. GREAT.
OKAY. SO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LIKE WE HAD WITH PRIOR CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT HAPPENS IF WE MISS SOMETHING? KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING TO GET THERE. RIGHT. RIGHT.
OKAY. SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE SAYING NUMBER SEVEN THROUGH NINE.
THEY WON'T DO THAT. WE DON'T NEED THEM TO DO.
MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU MODIFY THEIR TASK ORDER, APPROVE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 47, SEVEN, NINE, 4 OR 48. AND THEN LET ME GET A SHEET WITH THEM FROM THERE, BECAUSE I JUST WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $75,000 TO ADMINISTER A $800,000 PROJECT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. WE HAVE THAT MOTION.
NO, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MOTION. I DON'T HAVE A MOTION.
LIKE I SAID, ALL THAT, ALL THAT, I'D JUST KIND OF READ IT AND INTRODUCED C.J.
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TO TALK ABOUT THE THE PROGRESS ON IT. I WOULD CONSIDER A MOTION TO ACCEPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 30, DASH 2025, ACCEPTING THE FACILITIES DAMAGE MITIGATION REPORT AND A.AMOUNT OF $50,000 TO BE APPROVED FOR THE TASK ORDER.
THAT SHOULD COVER IT. YES, SIR. I'LL MAKE THE TOUR.
HOLD ON. WE'RE MAKING A MOTION TO REMOVE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. WITH AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 50,000.
OKAY. GO AHEAD. I APOLOGIZE. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CHRIS.
FURTHER DISCUSSION. YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION. SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND NEGOTIATE THESE.
HOW FAR? HOW FAR? THEY'RE BACK. IS THAT GOING TO PUSH US? NOT THAT FAR. I THINK WE CAN GET THIS DONE EARLY NEXT WEEK, AND THEN WE CAN GET THE BID PACKAGE READY TO GO AND HOPEFULLY BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY MID-JULY. IT'S KIND OF A TARGET DATE THAT I TOLD THEM.
WE WANTED TO HAVE THINGS WRAPPED UP BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO. YEAH. BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE'RE COMING UP TO ANOTHER HURRICANE SEASON.
I MEAN, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT NOW. YEAH. NO, WE'RE NOT COMING UP.
WE'RE IN IT. YEAH. SO, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T FIXED IT FROM LAST YEAR, SO WE MIGHT BE COMING TO THE PEAK, BUT WE'RE ALREADY IN IT. YEAH. THEY MAY NOT HAVE EIGHT WEEKS.
A HURRICANE MAY COME BEFORE THIS. AND DON'T SAY THAT.
YEAH. YOU NEED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
I HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND. I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
IT'S UNANIMOUS. I GIVE YOU SOME WIGGLE ROOM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 37.
DASH 2025, APPROVING THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE HISPANIC LIONS CLUB FOR THE GIVEBACK FESTIVAL, TO BE HELD SEPTEMBER THE 5TH AND SIXTH, 2025 AT THE MUNICIPAL PARK.
THIS WILL OPEN UP THE GET BACK FESTIVAL AGAIN.
THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR DATES TO SEPTEMBER, AND THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THEY FOLLOW THE SAME MODEL THAT WE'VE ALL FOLLOWED IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF RECOUPING OUR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ASSISTING WITH THE EVENT TO INCLUDE SECURITY, SOLID WASTE, PARK STAFF, ETC..
DO WE HAVE. WE HAVEN'T HAD. DO WE HAVE ISSUES LAST YEAR? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, IF I MAY, UNDER THE INSURANCE PART, I NOTICED WHERE IT'S MAKING THE CITY.
WE'LL SHOW IT AS ADDITIONAL INSURED. AND THEN IT MENTIONS THE CARNIVAL.
IT MENTIONS THEY WILL, BUT IT DOESN'T MENTION AN AMOUNT.
OR DID I? OVERLOOKING. IT SAYS THEY'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO NAME THE CITY, BUT THERE IS NO AMOUNT AS IT. I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T SPEAK FOR LANDIS, BUT I BELIEVE WE USE THE SAME CARNIVAL COMPANY.
I ACTUALLY GOT THEIR CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE TODAY. VALID ALL THE WAY THROUGH JULY OF NEXT YEAR.
YOU KNOW, THEY SENT IT TO US TODAY FOR MOSQUITO FEST.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS A $2 MILLION POLICY.
IT'S TWO.. YES, SIR. OKAY. I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT IN HERE.
OKAY. I WAS WONDERING, BUT I HAVE IT IN HAND BECAUSE WE USE THE SAME COMPANY, SO.
AND THAT CERTIFICATE NAMES THE CITY AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AS THE ADDITIONAL INSURED.
AND IT'S VALID FROM JULY 23RD OF 2025 THROUGH JULY 22ND OF 2026.
SO IT'LL BE IN EFFECT TO COVER BOTH EVENTS AND HAS US LISTED.
IS THIS THE SAME INSURANCE COMPANY THAT IT'S GETTING? YES. OKAY. AND I WOULD KNOW. WE'RE ALSO MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT DISCUSSION WE HAD ABOUT THE SEPARATION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. IT WOULD BE RESOLUTION 37 DASH 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TEXAS APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE MISSOURI COUNTY HISPANIC LIONS CLUB WITH THE USE OF THE MUNICIPAL PARK FOR THE GET BACK FESTIVAL TO BE HOSTED THE WEEKEND OF SEPTEMBER 5TH 20. 22. OKAY. 20. 25. AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR. THAT RESOLUTION 27 DASH 2025 BE APPROVED.
WE'LL HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. FRANCIS? YES. SECOND BY COUNCIL. POSTPONE. DISCUSSION.
YEAH. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. COULD YOU REMIND ME AGAIN ON THE CITY PERSONNEL FOR THE ONE?
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THE QUANTITY OF ONE. WHAT IS THAT FOR AGAIN? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION BACK THERE.OH IT'S NOT. THAT'S THE QUESTION. THE THE PERSONNEL.
THE ONE PERSONNEL LISTED UNDER. WERE WE ON THE INVOICE WHERE IT SAYS ONE PERSONNEL? OH, THAT'S THAT'S THE TOTAL OF THE SPREADSHEET ANGEL PUT TOGETHER.
THAT INCLUDES THE THE TRUCK DRIVERS, THE DUMPSTER DELIVERIES HAULING THE TRASH.
THE EMS FOLKS ON SCENE. IT'S JUST ONE PERSON.
NO, NO, IT'S IT'S ONE. I GUESS WE PUT IT AS ONE UNIT FOR A PERSONNEL COST.
INTERESTING. OKAY. I'M JUST. I'M CURIOUS. WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO WAS MAKING THAT KIND OF MONEY? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT JOB, IS THERE, LIKE, A SPECIAL RATE WE'RE CHARGING? DO WE GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF DISCOUNT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WELL, LANDIS ASKED FOR A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT.
I HOPE WE KNOCK THE PRICE DOWN $1 FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR.
AND THEN THE PERSONNEL RATES ARE BASED ON WHAT THE ACTUAL COST TO THE CITY FOR THAT PERSONNEL, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AT AN OVERTIME RATE. OKAY.
INCLUDING BENEFITS. SO SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE CITY'S TRYING TO PROFIT OFF OF IT.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. AND TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, THIS NUMBER WENT DOWN ABOUT $1,500 FROM WHAT WE CHARGED LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND DIFFERENT SALARY LEVELS AND NEWER FOLKS. AND SO HE ASKED FOR HE ASKED FOR A MUCH BIGGER DISCOUNT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SQUEEZE ABOUT $1,500 OUT OF IT FOR HIM.
OKAY. GOTCHA. SO HE WANTED US. HE'D BE 1499 EXTRA.
DOLLARS. THANK YOU SIR. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER IS NOT A GOOD WEEKEND.
THAT'S WHEN MOST OF THE HURRICANES COME IN. THAT'S WHEN THE.
THAT'S WHEN THE LAST 3 OR 4 OF THEM HIT THAT HIT HERE.
ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE TO BLOW IT AWAY? ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS. WE'LL SEE Y'ALL AT THE PARK.
THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE CIP WORKSHOP.
[V. CIP WORKSHOP]
AND IT IS DISCUSSION OF THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, CIP, A 5 TO 10 YEAR STRATEGY DOCUMENT OUTLINING THE CITY'S PLANNED INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAJOR ASSETS SUCH AS ROADS, UTILITIES, FACILITIES, PARKS AND EQUIPMENT TO PRIORITIZE, PRIORITIZE, PROJECT GUIDE, BUDGETING, ALIGNING WITH COMMUNITY GOALS, AND ENSURING EFFICIENT RESOURCE USE.THE CIP WILL FOSTER INTERDEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION, SECURE FUNDING, AND PROMOTE PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY WITH RESIDENTS ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND SPENDING. SO THIS IS A 68 SLIDE PRESENTATION.
I PLAN TO SPEND ABOUT FOUR MINUTES ON EACH SLIDE SETTING.
I'M JUST KIDDING, I WON'T. WE CAN DIVE OFF INTO DETAIL, BUT COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR A WORKSHOP AFTER THE LAST PRESENTATION WITH SOME UPDATED NUMBERS. WE NOW HAVE THE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.
AND THEN REALLY THE GOAL OF THIS EXERCISE IS TO ANSWER BASICALLY FOUR QUESTIONS.
SO WE'LL START OFF. WE HANDLED ALL OF THAT LAST TIME.
THIS WILL BE THE MARKUP OF A STANDARD SECTION STREET SECTION WITH HOLD ON.
ROSIE DID YOU PULL THIS FROM PETER? IS IT. OKAY.
CAN YOU GO INTO PETER REAL QUICK? I'M SO SORRY.
DO YOU WANT THE PDF? NO, MA'AM. THE THE THE THE LATEST FILE FROM PETER.
THANK YOU MA'AM. SO AGAIN, THE NUMBER IS, QUITE FRANKLY, MIND BOGGLING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT 534, ALMOST 535 BILLION OR MILLION DOLLARS, HALF A BILLION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EAT THAT ELEPHANT IN ONE FELL SWOOP, BUT WE THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO DEVELOP A SYSTEMATIC PLAN TO SLOWLY EAT THE ELEPHANT ONE AT A TIME. AND SO THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MULTI-YEAR PLAN.
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WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL DEBT.BUT I'VE GOT THE AMORTIZATION CHARTS. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHEN THAT STARTS TO FALL OFF.
WE HAVE TWO SERIES THAT ARE SET TO RETIRE OR BASICALLY RETIRE IN 2025, 2027 AND 2029.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE ANOTHER LINE COMING OFF IN 2023.
WHERE WE GET INTO A SOFT SPOT IS BEGINNING IN 2020 16 OR 2016.
THAT SERIES AND EVERY SUBSEQUENT SERIES IS ALL TIED BACK TO AB REVENUE.
OUTSIDE OF THIS ONE REFINANCE THAT WE DID WHICH FALLS OFF IN 2029.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO LIMIT OUR CAPACITY TO BACK ANY NOTE WITHOUT THE LOAN TAX, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF INCREASE TO THE RATE WHICH PUTS US IN KIND OF A TOUGH SPOT WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUING GENERAL FUND DEBT.
AND I TALK ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND DEBT HERE IN JUST A SECOND AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL OWED CURRENTLY. PRINCIPAL AND BALANCE. THIS IS AS OF LAST SEPTEMBER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, GIVEN OUR CAPACITY TO INCREASE VALUE, IT LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO ISSUE TO THAT.
SO COUNCIL'S THAT WE APPLAUDED. THAT'S A SIX FOLD INCREASE SINCE 2016.
AND THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AVAILABLE FOR AN ISSUE AT THAT POINT.
WHAT'S THE CITY'S CURRENT DEBT LOAD? WHAT'S FUTURE REVENUE POTENTIAL LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE AVERAGE DEBT INCOME RATIO ON THE HOUSEHOLDS INCLUDE, WHICH INCLUDE ACTUALLY HAS A VERY HIGH DEBT TO INCOME RATIO.
ALMOST 43%, YES. AND SO THAT BURDEN MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TACK ON MORE TAX BECAUSE AT SOME POINT SOMETHING SOMEBODY'S GOT TO PAY THE FIDDLER AND YOU'RE GOING TO ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THEY ESTIMATE THAT IN 2027, OUR OUR CURRENT DEBT CAPACITY, GIVEN THE VALUE INCREASE IS ONLY 1.65 ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE AND JUST SHY OF $2 MILLION ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND SIDE.
THE RATE STRUCTURE OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND IS, IS HAMPERING US AND OUR ABILITY TO ISSUE DEBT.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS JOHN AND I DISCUSSED IN THE QUARRY THIS AFTERNOON.
WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN ONLY BURDEN THE CUSTOMER SO MUCH.
SO WE'RE HAMPERED IN THAT REGARD. AND AS I SAID, THE AS THE AS OUR DEBT, CURRENT DEBT AGES, THOSE NUMBERS GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING TO SUGGEST, WHEN WE GET TO THE FOUR QUESTIONS, HOW WE WANT TO ANSWER THOSE, WHAT OUR CURRENT POSITION LOOKS LIKE.
WE HAVE ABOUT $9.4 MILLION IN FUND FIVE, WHICH IS SIDEWALK, STREETS AND DRAINAGE.
WE RENEW THAT PHONE AND REPLENISH THAT WITH ABOUT $1 MILLION A YEAR IN SALES TAX REVENUE.
WE HAVE $716,000. AND THEN, IF YOU RECALL, YOU DID A BUDGET AMENDMENT LAST TIME TO SHIFT MONEY INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE ROOF ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH CAN WORK FOR THEM FROM UNDER TO THAT THAT FUND THE ENTERPRISE FUND UNRESTRICTED CURRENTLY SITS AT ABOUT 6.1.
AND THEN RIGHT NOW AS IT SITS, THE GENERAL FUND UNRESTRICTED.
THE CURRENT BALANCE IS 4.7. AND OUR GOAL AND OUR MANDATE UNDER OUR INVESTMENT PLANS IS WE NEED TO HAVE FIVE MONTHS OPERATING AND WE'RE CURRENTLY JUST AT FIVE MONTHS. SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ROOM TO PULL ANY OF THOSE FUNDS INTO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS.
DO WE HAVE THIS THAT SLIDE IN HERE? YOU DON'T.
I TWEAKED THE PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON, SO I WILL MAKE SURE I'LL GET A COPY TO YOU GUYS.
BUT IF YOU FOLLOW ALONG ON THE SCREEN I WILL DO MY BEST TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE THINGS.
SO TYPICALLY YOUR CIP CAN RUN 6 TO 10 YEARS. GIVEN THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE WITH FINANCING, IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO EXTEND OUR CIP TEN, 12, OR 15 YEARS AND LOOK AT MAKING THESE LONGER TERM PROJECTS.
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THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED, AND THESE ARE NOT QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT YOU TO ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, MAYBE GIVE US SOME IDEAS AND GUIDANCE ON WHAT STRATEGIES YOU'D LIKE US TO DO. DO YOU WANT US TO PRIORITIZE INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND TAKE SMALL CHUNKS? DO WE HIT THE MAIN ARTERIES AND VEINS AND COLLECTORS? WHAT'S THE ACTION? COST VERSUS INACTION COST? IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DON'T ACT NOW ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, HOW EXPENSIVE IS IT GOING TO BE IF WE KICK THE CAN? AND THEN FINALLY, WHAT'S THE BREAK POINT IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE? AND AT WHAT POINT ARE WE FORCED TO TAKE THAT TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN WITH THE TAX INCREASE OR RATE INCREASE.AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS I WANT YOU ALL TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AS I KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT THE STANDARD STREET SECTION WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WENT.
AND THIS ISN'T A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AT A 25 FOOT STANDARD WITH CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT'S PROPOSED THROUGHOUT THIS. WE DIVIDED THE CITY INTO.
AND SO THESE ARE THE ZONES WE DID NOT, ALTHOUGH THEY KIND OF GENERALLY FOLLOW WHAT THE WARDS ARE.
THE REALITY IS, IS WE KIND OF TOOK PHYSICAL BARRIERS BETWEEN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD OR SUBDIVISION TO KIND OF BREAK IT INTO, I GUESS, EATABLE CHUNKS, AS IT WERE. AND SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE CIP MAP, AUSTIN SUBDIVISION STARTS BASICALLY AT MAIN AND STRETCHES ALL THE WAY NORTH TO, TO AND MUDDY DITCH.
IT INCLUDES NURSERY, ROBERTSON, WADE, GODFREY, LEWIS AND AUSTIN STREETS.
THIS IS DIGGING UP WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE AND REDOING IT COMPLETELY.
REDOING IT COMPLETELY. YES, MA'AM. BRIAN'S SUBDIVISION I MISSPELLED.
I'VE ADDED A T FOR SOME REASON. OH, THERE WE GO.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. ALMOST $2.9 MILLION TO BRING THE STREETS UP TO STANDARD CODE.
SO THAT WOULD REMOVE THE THE OPEN DITCHES. THAT WOULD REMOVE THE OPEN DITCHES, BRING THE STREET DOWN TO GRADE TO ACT AS DRAINAGE AND THEN PUT INTO INLINE SUBTERRANEAN DRAINAGE IN PLACE, CURB AND GUTTER AS IT WERE FLOODED STREETS.
YES. WELL, HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY THEY DRAIN THAT.
THAT'S. YES. COB PART BASICALLY INCLUDES THIS WEDGE HERE FROM COMMERCE CREEK AND COB DORSETT.
THE COST HERE IS ALMOST $2.7 MILLION. I INCLUDED RODI FOR SOME REASON IN THAT, BUT NOT REALLY.
THAT'S OVER BY ME. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS SO MANY TIMES, IT KIND OF KIND OF BECAME MIND NUMBING. I'LL BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU. EMERALD.
PARKVIEW. EMERALD. WAYNE, NORTH, SHANKS, CANNON AND MIFFLIN.
AND THE COURSE IS ALREADY PAVED. IT IS PAVED.
BUT THE THE DRAINAGE NEEDS TO BE REDONE. SO DOES THE SEWER.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE SEWER NOW AND AGAIN. WE MAY HAVE AREAS THAT WE'VE DONE.
I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE COST OF WHAT IT IS. AREA BY AREA.
MIDTOWN EAST IS ONE OF OUR LARGER SECTIONS. THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF AVERY STRAIGHT THROUGH AT SOME POINT TO CARRY IT THROUGH, TO KIND OF FULFILL THE LIVERPOOL CENTERS IDEA.
BUT IT INCLUDES MICKEY MORRELL OR MERLE WHITTON.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE SOME STREETS THAT ARE ADMITTED ON THIS, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE CONSIDER THEM MAJOR COLLECTORS OR ARTERIALS. BROCKMAN IN THIS CASE, WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE STREETS. THE COST THERE IS PRETTY STAGGERING.
10.2 CHEESE. MIDTOWN WEST, WHICH INCLUDES PIN MONEY, LAKEVIEW, CRESTWOOD, MARION HARGETT, OAK DODGE AND AGAIN GETS LEFT OFF BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED A COLLECTOR.
SMITH MOBILE CEMETERY, CHERRY WEST AIKEN PECAN THAT COST US 13.8.
ONLY BARBARA MOORE WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR MORE DENIGRATED AREAS IN TERMS OF QUALITY.
IT'S NOT GOOD AT ALL. DITCHES ARE WE'RE SEEING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STUFF.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT $11.7 MILLION TO REDO THAT AREA.
WELL, LAKE BARBARA SOUTH IS IN FAIRLY SIMILAR CONDITION.
ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG MAPLE MYERS ARE IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER SHAPE.
BUT THE COST THERE WILL BE 14.4. BRING EVERYTHING TO STANDARD.
THE WEDGE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL THIS AREA, SO WE WENT WITH WEDGE BECAUSE IT'S SHAPED LIKE A WEDGE. BUT THAT INCLUDES MCKEY DAVIDSON, LOOP. SAINT ANNE. THOSE AREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $5.4 MILLION IN NEED TO BRING IT UP TO SNUFF.
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AND THEN THE WEST SIDE CIP INCLUDES AN EXTENSION OF AUSTIN WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IN EARLIER YEARS TO OPEN THIS AREA HERE, THIS 14 ACRES THAT FORMERLY WAS HELD BY DOCTOR GRADY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH SHOULD BRING ADDITIONAL VALUE TO THE GROUND, HOPEFULLY OFFSETTING THAT COST. BUT THE ADDITION HERE WOULD BE $3.1 MILLION.I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OUR MAJOR ARTERIALS BRAZOS WOOD, OLD ANGLETON, COLLEGE PARK EAST AND WEST KYLE, STRATTON RIDGE, MAIN STREET. WE'VE DIVIDED INTO FOUR SEGMENTS COMMERCE SOUTH SHANKS, AND THEN BROCKMAN AS WELL AS THE MOCKINGBIRD. AND SO FOR THE ARTERIALS, WHICH INCLUDE BROCKMAN, HARGETT, LACY, SHANKS, AND WILSON, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 11.6. AND THEN WE HIT THE BIG NUMBER.
LOOKING AT THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, BRAZOS WOOD COLLEGE PARK COMMERCE.
SOME OF THESE DON'T NEED IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE.
OLD ANGLETON, WE THINK, IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSITY THIS NEXT YEAR.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IT TO A 41FT STANDARD PAVING WITH WITH CURB AND GUTTER WOULD RUN US RIGHT AT RIGHT AT ABOUT $10 MILLION. WE DID DIVIDE MAIN STREET INTO FOUR SEGMENTS FOLLOWING OUR LAST MEETING.
AND SO THE COST THERE. WAIT. HOLD ON. HERE. SO SEGMENT A, WHICH IS 332 BACK TO PLANTATION IS $2 MILLION. SEGMENT B, WHICH IS THE SECTION FROM COMMERCE BACK TO PLANTATION IS 457, SEGMENT C, WHICH IS PLANTATION BACK TO CITY HALL ROUGHLY OR THE STOP SIGNS STOPLIGHT HEREBY INCLUDE INTERMEDIATE IS 3.1 AND THEN SEGMENT B IS 2.3.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMBINED COST OF ALMOST $8 MILLION TO REDO MAIN STREET.
AND I WOULD NOTE ALSO THAT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT ROAD PRICES IN THE OLD DAYS, NOT SO DISTANT PAST, ASPHALT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER THAN CONCRETE TO TRIPLE-A, AND THOSE PRICES HAVE REALLY CAUGHT UP TO EACH OTHER.
AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY I'VE SPOKEN TO AND I'VE TALKED TO, I THINK NOW SIX DIFFERENT TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, THEY'RE TELLING ME IT'S ROUGHLY $1 MILLION A MILE NO MATTER THE MATERIAL.
WE NEED TO INSTALL ADA COMPLIANT DOORS ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THE RECORDS ROOM, RECORDS BUILDING ALSO IS PART OF THE PROJECT TO PUT A NEW PITCHED ROOF ON.
WE NEED A NEW POLICE STATION. I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES ON THAT.
PUBLIC WORKS LAY DOWN. SO THE IDEA WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE SAW THE PRESENTATION FROM MR. SCOTT. WE TALKED ABOUT A JOINT FACILITY FULLY BUILT, AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT MAYBE WE DO THE POLICE STATION AND THEN THE LAY DOWN YARD, AND THEN COME BACK AND DO THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF FACILITIES LATER. SO THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED HERE.
THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL BUILDING. IF WE DO RELOCATE THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 14 SIX SHANKS LAKE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH LOUISVILLE CENTERS. WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 1.2.
WE HAVE INCLUDED PAVILION UPGRADES FOR THE PAVILION AT THE PARK TO UPGRADE IT AND MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE AS WE HOPEFULLY MAKE IT MORE APPEALING AND ALSO MAYBE BE ABLE TO INCREASE OR START CHARGING FOR THE USE OF THAT AT 500,000.
AND SO WHEN WE COSTED BOTH OUT, THEY BOTH CAME TO ABOUT THE SAME COST.
SO POOL OPTION ONE IS TO COME BACK AND REDO THE PLUMBING.
THE BASICALLY JUST PUT WHAT WE HAVE BACK IN PLACE.
BUT WITH THE UPGRADED PLUMBING, IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE US ABOUT $9.7 MILLION TO DO THAT.
OPTION TWO WOULD BE SOMETHING MORE AKIN TO A LAZY RIVER WITH A SMALL POOL.
AND I THINK. LET ME BACKTRACK. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT $12.5 MILLION AND THEN OPTION THREE, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE WORST IDEA IN HISTORY, BUT WOULD BE CHANGING IT OVER AND I APOLOGIZE.
CHATGPT MURDERED THE NAMES OF THE STREETS, BUT WITH THE CONVERTING IT TO BASICALLY A SMALL PERMANENT CARNIVAL WITH A MINI GOLF COURSE AND SOME TRUCK FOOD TRUCK AMENITIES, THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.
AT AT 2 MILLION BUCKS. SO NONE OF THEM ARE CHEAP SOLUTIONS.
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THE OPTION BOTH COST ABOUT $750,000, WOULD BE THE INSTALLATION OF YOUTH SOCCER FIELDS ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.THE CLOVERLEAF BALL FIELDS WOULD REMAIN BEHIND IT.
OR WE COULD DO A CRICKET PITCH. AND ALTHOUGH CRICKET IS NOT A MAINSTREAM SPORT YET, IT IS GROWING IN INTENSITY AND THE MATCHES LAST 3 TO 5 DAYS, WHICH MEANS WE'D BE THE ONLY FACILITY IN SOUTH BRAZORIA COUNTY OFFERING IT.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO PEARLAND, TO THE FIELDS THERE, IT'S PACKED.
EVERY SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. THEY USUALLY START FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE MATCHES RUN 3 TO 5 DAYS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SHARED? LIKE SOCCER AND CRICKET? I MEAN, CAN YOU BUILD IT THAT WAY? YOU COULD BUILD IT THAT WAY.
THE, THE THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE SEASON IS RUN CONCURRENT.
SO THERE'D BE A LOT OF COMPETITION FOR WHO'S GOT THE FIELD WIN.
AND THEN THE THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT OF A CRICKET PITCH IS KIND OF BIZARRE.
IT'S 90 YARDS FROM THE, THE, THE THE PLAY ZONE TO THE SIDES AND 75 YARDS FROM THE BACK.
SO IT'S A BIG CIRCLE BASICALLY WITH THE PITCHER AND THE BATTER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLED LINING UP IN THE MIDDLE.
SO YOU COULD IN THEORY DO THAT. BUT I THINK IF YOU DECIDE TO GO THE CRICKET ROUTE, THEN YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO BE STUCK TRYING TO CROSS SCHEDULE EACH OTHER AND WORK THAT OUT. AND I THINK IT BECOMES MORE OF A HEADACHE AT THAT POINT.
AND THEN WE DIVE INTO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. JOHN DID A GREAT JOB OF DETAILING THE AGE OF OUR LINES.
WE HAVE MORE THAN 50 MILES, THE WATER AND SEWER LINE COMBINED THAT ARE OVER THE AGE OF 45.
AND SO THE AVERAGE STANDARD LIFE ON A WATER LINE IS ABOUT 50 YEARS.
AND SO SOME OF THESE ARE OLDER, SOME OF THESE ARE NEWER.
BUT WE THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY 45 PLUS.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME REFITTING AND FACILITIES THAT ARE IN NEED OF UPGRADES.
AND THOSE INCLUDE THE WATER TOWER, THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AND THE METERING SYSTEM.
AND SO THIS IS ALL THE WATER MAINS PRIOR TO 1979.
SO 45 YEARS PLUS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ABOUT 80% OF THE CITY.
AND SO I WON'T DIVE TOO FAR INTO DETAIL, BUT THIS IS THE ACTUAL DETAIL I WON'T GO THROUGH.
LOOKING AT SERVICE LINES OR WHAT WE WOULD I GUESS A COLLECTOR, A CONNECTOR, NOT A MAIN, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT SERVE THE ACTUAL STREETS OR NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU GET 290, $92,000 ROUGHLY IN NEED IN LAKE MARTIN NORTH OR LAKE BARBARA SOUTH.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1 MILLION AND THEN ALMOST 500,000 FOR THE MIDTOWN EAST PORTION.
EMERALD, 265,000. AUSTIN, 434,000. THE WEST SIDE.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT AS MUCH ACTIVITY OVER THERE, BUT 140,000.
AND THEN THE COMMERCE CLUB AREA ABOUT 122,000.
THESE ARE OUR SEWER MAINS AND SEWERS. IT'S JUST ABOUT AS BAD AS TWO.
AND SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THERE, THE TOTAL PRICE TAG IS $12.4 MILLION TO REDO THE WATER.
THIS IS A $26 MILLION COMBINED. BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE ADDED UP.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE IN HERE 1.5 FOR A FUTURE NORTH SIDE WATER TOWER, WHICH WOULD MITIGATE OUR PRESSURE CONCERNS WHEN WE HAVE HEAVY USAGE AND TO FACILITATE ADDITIONAL GROWTH ON THAT SIDE. EXCUSE ME. I GET REAL EMOTION WHEN I TALK ABOUT THIS THAT KFC IS MAKING ME DISPENSE.
EXCUSE ME. WE DO ABOUT 65% OF ALL OF OUR SEWAGE GOES THROUGH BUMPY ROAD.
IT'S NOT THE WAY I WOULD HAVE DESIGNED IT, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT GOES.
AND IT'S IN SIGNIFICANT NEED OF AN UPGRADE AND EXPANSION.
WE'RE STILL RUNNING THE SAME SIZE PUMPS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOR.
JOHN. HOW LONG? 40 YEARS. I'M SORRY. WHAT? BUMPY ROAD.
WE'VE NEVER ENLARGED IT FROM ITS ORIGINAL SIZE.
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WE DECORATE IT AND RESIZE IT. AND THEN WE ALSO NEED TO REDO THAT FORCE MAIN.EVERYTHING RUNS TO A 45 DEGREE JOINT AT DORSETT THAT NEEDS TO BE REDONE.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. AND THEN WE HAVE THE AGING OUT OF OUR EMR SYSTEM.
WE INSTALLED THAT INITIALLY IN 2014 AND OVER IN 2016, IT WAS REDONE AS WE HIT THAT TEN YEAR MARK, WE ARE WATCHING THEM FALL OFF. THE BATTERY WARRANTY WAS TEN YEARS AND TEN YEARS.
ONE MONTH. YOU CAN JUST ABOUT COUNT ON THEM KEELING OVER.
THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAVE THERE WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT TRANSMITS IN THE 850 MEGAWATT MEGAHERTZ BANDWIDTH. AND OUR GOOD FRIENDS AT VERIZON BOUGHT EVERYTHING FROM 710 TO 2100 SO THEY COULD HANDLE PLANT TELEMETRY AND DATA, VOICE AND DATA MESSAGING, WHICH LEADS INTO OUR SYSTEM.
AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ABOUT 15% LOSS ON RATES.
THIS MONTH WE WERE JUST A LITTLE UNDER TEN, A LITTLE UNDER TEN, WHICH IS A GOOD MONTH.
WE CAN'T MODULATE ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF THEIR WAVELENGTH.
SO THAT INTERFERENCE MEANS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY SOMEBODY TO GO OUT AND REREAD THOSE METERS. SO I THINK IN THE MONTH OF MAY IT WAS SIX 6646, 46, 46. SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REVISIT THAT.
THEY'RE AGING OUT, AND WE NEED TO GET TO A SYSTEM THAT WE CAN EITHER GET TO A LOWER BANDWIDTH OR A HIGHER BANDWIDTH, BUT SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO COMPETE.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S NOT JUST OUR PROBLEM.
THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAS THE EXACT SAME ISSUE.
THEY'RE BEING BLED OUT BY VERIZON AS WELL. WE POLITELY REACHED OUT TO THE GOVERNMENT REP.
THEY BASICALLY SAID WE SPENT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THESE LICENSES.
GO PLAY WITH YOUR MODULATION. WE'RE NOT TOUCHING OURS.
SO. SO AGAIN, THAT PUTS US TOTAL NEED OF HALF $1 BILLION.
AND WE'RE BACK TO OUR KEY QUESTIONS. SO WHERE'S THE SLIDE THAT HAS, LIKE, EACH CATEGORY? AND I GUESS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
YEAH. HOLD ON. LET ME GET BACK. BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ARE HUGE NUMBERS AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW? WHAT CAN WE DO RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I AIN'T GOT BUT RIGHT NOW HALF $1 BILLION.
YEAH. SO FUND TWO. IN THEORY YOU HAVE ABOUT $9.4 MILLION AVAILABLE TO YOU TO ADDRESS THE WATER, THE SEWER AND THE GENERAL FUND YOU HAVE, RIGHT AT ABOUT 12.8 AVAILABLE TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOOT ALL OF IT AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE LIKE THE FIRST ONE. IT'S SAYING IT ONLY REPLENISHES ABOUT $1 MILLION PER YEAR.
YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE ABOUT 10% CORRECT.
LOOK AT THAT. OUR DEBT OUR DEBT CAPACITY IS ABOUT 1.65 ON THE GENERAL FUND AND RIGHT AT TWO IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT ONCE IT. ONCE THOSE OTHERS ROLL OFF.
THAT'S IT. YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO WHEN WE GET INTO BUDGET, WE'LL TALK ABOUT RATE RESTRUCTURING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE. WE'VE BEEN STAGGERED. IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE DID THREE AND A HALF TO FIVE, FIVE AND A HALF TO FOUR.
AT WHAT POINT DOES IT BECOME UNAFFORDABLE TO SELL THEM WATER, AS IT WERE? SO WE'RE SO OLD ANGLETON ROAD IT IS PRETTY BAD.
HOW MUCH? I MEAN, CAN WE DO THESE IN SECTIONS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IN THE SECTIONS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH, LIKE THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND STUFF, WHERE MAYBE THIS YEAR WE DO THIS STREET IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT MIGHT TAKE A YEAR OR SO BEFORE WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO THIS STREET WELL.
SO THERE'S AN ECONOMY OF SCALE WHEN YOU DO THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS, IF YOU MOBILIZE AND THEN GO HIT,
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LET'S SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, BUT LET'S SAY WE'RE GOING TO GO DO THE AUSTIN SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? OKAY. SO WE GO TO ONE STREET THIS YEAR, IT'S GOING TO COST US 30% MOBILIZATION.WE'RE INCREASING THAT COST. SO IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE THEM COME TO.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A SECTION, DO A WHOLE SECTION UNTIL YOU GET INTO THE ARTERIALS AND THE COLLECTORS, IN WHICH CASE AND THAT'S WHERE I GUESS THE WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION HE WANTS TO BUILD INWARD OUT OR OUTWARD IN.
SO WORKING FROM THE MAIN ARTERIALS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, OR START WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN MOVE INTO THE ARTERIALS AND THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. I THINK THE MAJOR IS THE COUNTY PICK UP, COUNTY PICKS UP JUST AT THE LEVY.
JUST THE LEVY GOING TOWARDS ORANGE CREEK. YES, SIR.
AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORHOODS. IS THERE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAY BE MORE PRIMED FOR REDEVELOPMENT? SO LET'S SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE OPEN DITCHES, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S LIKE HAS SPOTS FOR SEVERAL NEW HOMES, WHICH WOULD BE MORE THEY CAN SELL THEM FOR MORE, MAKE MORE MARKETABLE IF THEY HAVE A NICE STREET WITH HERBS AND UNDERGROUND GUTTERS AND AND SO IS THERE A WAY TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE.
WELL, IF IT IF IMPROVING THE ROAD AND ADDING CURVES ADDS NEW HOUSING, NEW TAX.
BUT THEN THERE'S NO PAYBACK FOR THE CITY. SOME PLACES THERE MAY BE MORE OF A PAYBACK BECAUSE THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT ON THAT STREET OR IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. ACCORDING TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THE SQUARE FOOT.
THE SQUARE FOOT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS OR NOT.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES THE HOUSE MORE MARKETABLE.
IF YOU'RE BUILDING UP YOUR OPINION, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE BUILDING A BRAND NEW HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ON A STREET WITH CURB VERSUS A BRAND NEW HOUSE WITH AN OPEN DITCH.
I KNOW YEARS AGO, WHENEVER THEY DID PLANTATION DRIVE, THEY ASSESSED EACH HOUSEHOLD THROUGH THEIR RIGHT AND A MOUTH THAT THEY HAD TO PAY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
CORRECT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PAID BECAUSE IT CURVED TO GO INSIDE.
BUT THAT WAS ALL. THAT WAS ALL ACCESS TO EACH INDIVIDUAL OWNER.
YEAH, BUT IF I READ THE DOCUMENTS CORRECTLY, I THINK THAT WAS 82 THAT WE DID THAT.
THEY WERE ASSESSED 65% OF THE COST IN THE PERIOD THAT THEY'RE DOWN.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS. I'LL DEFER THE ATTORNEY ON THAT.
BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS PROBABLY. 40 YEARS AGO.
43 4343. I LOOKED AT THIS EARLIER TODAY. AND SO THE REALITY IS, THOUGH, WE'RE AT THAT SAME GRADE POINT BECAUSE LET'S SAY WE'RE WORKING ON, I DON'T KNOW, LOUISIANA. THOSE ARE NEWER HOMES, YOUNGER FAMILIES.
THE SCALE, THE THE SCALE OF THE ASSESSMENT IS, IS SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER.
MY CONCERN WOULD BE THE THE ENDS, THE OUTSIDE END.
IS THERE ENOUGH TIME THAT THAT DOESN'T OVERBURDEN THE INSIDE TO THE POINT THAT IT JUST THEN THEN TECHNICALLY THE NEW DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE THE OLD IS IN THE WAY. CORRECT. AND THAT'S VERY, VERY VERSUS THE INSIDE OUT.
YEAH. IS THERE A WAY TO I MEAN, ARE WE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LIKE ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10. SO TO BE ABLE TO KNOW HOW BAD PLACES ARE BECAUSE LIKE PLANTATION AND DIXIE DRIVE MAY NOT BE PERFECT, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE A PRESSING ISSUE.
BUT YOU GO DOWN AN OLD ANGLETON. RIGHT. SO THERE'S A AND IT'S A PRESSING ISSUE.
SO I MEAN, A, A WINDSHIELD TOUR TELLS YOU AUTOMATICALLY.
OLD HAMILTON, BOTH SIDES ARE HARD. BOTH SIDES OF KYLE STRATTON, WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT SLOUGHED INTO THE DITCHES WITH THE DROUGHT RAIN CYCLE. AND SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARTERIALS I WOULD SAY ARE THE MOST PRESSING.
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HOW LONG WE WANT TO STRETCH IT OUT OVER EAST KYLE, AGAIN, WE ONLY GO TO THE LEFT.CORRECT. SO THEY'RE TURNED INTO COUNTY AGAIN.
YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR 3142 LINEAR FEET ON EAST KYLE.
2167 ON WEST KYLE. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMBINED COST OF 4.2 MILLION 5.0 BY 5.4. YOU'RE CORRECT. I'M SORRY. SO FOR ALL THOSE AREAS, IT WOULD BE HOW MUCH? JUST FOR EAST AND WEST. ALL RIGHT. THE ROAD IS 12 MILLION FOR THE WHOLE THING.
AND KYLE ROAD IS 5.4, ABOUT 5.4. AND THEN STRATTON RIDGE 6.8 IS RIGHT AT SIX, 6.2 OR 20.9, AT LEAST 30 POUNDS EACH OTHER. LITTLE OVER 20.
YES, SIR. THE NEW SITE COST A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE, LIKE I SAID, O'LANTERN ROAD TO KYLE.
AT LEAST BEING IN THE SAME GENERAL VICINITY. YEAH, THAT'LL BE THE MOVE.
COMPLETELY. NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE CAN ONLY DO A.
BOND FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT. CORRECT. CORRECT. AND SO THIS YEAR, WITHOUT A VOTE.
WITHOUT A VOTE. RIGHT. SO IN ORDER TO DO THE SEO OR A GEO, IN ORDER TO DO A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION, I THINK WE'RE CAPPING OUT AT $2 MILLION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
OR IS THAT ONLY FOR EMERGENCY? I'M TRYING A LITTLE BIT.
LEGISLATION JUST CHANGED THIS PAST SESSION. AND SO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WELL, THEY PROBABLY CHANGED IT TO $100. IT MIGHT BE.
IT VERY WELL COULD BE. BUT WELL, IN IN THEIR WORLD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT WITH THE ONE MILE SIDEWALK PROJECT, BUT THEY WANT TO CHARGE 1.8 FOR. SO. WE CAN DO THE WINDSHIELD SURVEY AND SCORE.
THERE ARE SERVICES THAT COME OUT AND ACTUALLY DO A LEADER.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE OUR NEEDS ARE.
AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS. THE REALITY, WE CAN'T DO ALL OF IT AT ONE TIME.
BUT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF THESE ARE WHAT THE COST ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GET SERIOUS AND SYSTEMATIC ABOUT THIS.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING AND YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY AREN'T VOTING TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE FOCUS ON ARTERIALS AND COLLECTORS FOCUS ON THOSE FOR THIS FIRST YEAR. FIRST TWO YEARS AND THEN COME BACK HOPEFULLY WHEN WE HAVE MORE DEBT CAPACITY TO LOOK AT YOU AND MOVE IT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WELL, YEAH, GRAB ME IF I'M WRONG. BUT RIGHT NOW ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS, A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE JUST USE OUR CDBG FUNDS FOR, WELL, YEAH. SO WE GET THE ALLOCATION.
I REALIZE THAT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME BOAT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE YOU WHERE YOU MOVE IN, YOU MOVE OUT, YOU MOVE IN, YOU MOVE OUT.
BUT YOU ONLY GET THOSE EVERY THREE YEARS, SO.
RIGHT. AND THEY'VE ALSO DECREASED OUR FORMULA ALLOCATION FOR SOME.
IMAGINE THAT. SO WE WERE GETTING 250 IN THIS PAST THIS NEXT CYCLE WE'RE GETTING TO 20.
SO. HOW VITAL IS THE STUFF THAT SERVES A BIGGER PORTION OF THE CITY? THE BUMPY ROAD IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET DONE BECAUSE THAT'S SERVES EVERYBODY.
BUT YOU COULD DO THAT WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUND. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT IN AN ENTERPRISE FUND. AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE. SO THE STATE IS ALLEGED THE STATE HAS ALLOCATED $200 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS FOR A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
WE ASSUME THAT THAT'S GOING TO JUST NOT ALL GO TO THE RESERVOIR CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO TRICKLE DOWN IN THE FORM OF INCENTIVE GRANTS AND LOANS THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT GROUP. OKAY, MY NEXT QUESTION. I SAW WHERE THE WHERE THE STREET, SIDEWALK AND DRAINAGE FUND GETS $1 MILLION. YES, SIR. EACH YEAR. OKAY. BUT THAT ALSO OUT OF THAT MILLION DOLLAR BECOMES THE COST THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
CORRECT? CORRECT. WELL, NOT NECESSARILY. I MEAN, WE BUDGETED.
WE BUDGETED. PART OF THAT MONEY IS ALREADY DEAD.
THAT MILLION DOLLARS GOES INTO THE FUND, AND WE TRY AND USE THAT IN THAT YEAR OR PAY BACK THE RESIDUAL WITH THAT, THAT MILLION DOLLAR REVENUE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S $1 MILLION WORTH OF REVENUE OVER THAT ACCOUNT.
YES, SIR. SO. PART OF THE PEOPLE ARE CHARGED FOR STREET SIDEWALK DRAINAGE.
PART OF MY CHARGE TO TO NO PERSONNEL COMES OUT OF THAT.
OKAY. YEAH. ONLY ONLY CAPITAL COSTS RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT.
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WELL, BUMPY ROAD IS TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR RETAIL, ISN'T IT? YES, SIR. IT DID. I LOOKED AT IT FIVE YEARS AGO AND WONDERED HOW IT WAS STILL OPERATING.WE REACHED THE END OF LIFE. PROBABLY LONGER THAN THAT, HONESTLY.
YOU'LL FILL IT UP, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THEIR PETS.
I FIXED THEIR DOGS. SO ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LIFT STATION? AND I'M THAT I'M THAT BUMPY ROAD STATION. WOULD IT BE CONSISTENT OF THE STATION ITSELF? THE LINES WE WOULD HOPE WOULD STILL SURFACE. WE'RE JUST HAVING TROUBLE HANDLING EVERYTHING COMING THROUGH THE LINE.
WELL, THE LINE COMING FROM BUMPY STATION TWO TOWARD TOWARDS THE TREATMENT PLANT, TOWARDS THE THE THE FIRE PLACE OVER THERE. THAT'S ALL BEEN SLIPPED BY. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THERE'S SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THAT LINE THAT HAVE BEEN REPLACED. WE SLIPPED LADDER A STEP ON THE LINE FROM LAZY LANE ALL THE WAY TO THE LIFT STATION. THAT WAS DONE PROBABLY AROUND 17, 16, 17, BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, BACK AROUND 2012 THERE WAS A SINKHOLE OVER THERE BEHIND MOTEL SIX.
AND THEN A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, WE HAD ANOTHER DROP OUT BEHIND MOTEL SIX WITH A QUICKSAND.
EARLY 20 1314. THE LINE FROM THE FROM BUMPY ROAD LIFT STATION TO COMMERCE STREET, ALMOST TO THE COMMERCE STREET WAS WAS REPLACED WITH A 21 INCH.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE PROBABLY LIVE ABOVE WITH OUR LINES.
WE NEED TO THE STATION IS TO SELL ITSELF OUTSIDE THE STATION.
THE LINE COMING FROM PLANTATION TO THE STATION HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
FROM PLANTATION BACK TO SMITH STREET, IT HAS BEEN PINEHURST.
LIFT STATION IS IS WAY TOO SMALL FOR WHAT'S COMING IN THERE.
IS THAT THE ONE THAT WAS 1.1 MILLION? YES, MA'AM.
APPROXIMATELY. AND YOU SAID WE COULD BRING IT OUT OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
HOW MUCH IS IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND RIGHT NOW? SO IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND, YOU HAVE I NEED THAT SLIDE.
SORRY. I KNOW THERE'S TWO PEOPLE. PAY FOR WHAT YOU NEED.
YEAH. YEAH. YOU GOT YOU GOT ENOUGH 6.1. YOU GOT ONE FOR.
OKAY. WELL YOU CAN IN THEORY, THE SIGNS OF THE UNRESTRICTED BALLOTS OVER THERE.
YOU'VE GOT AN $11 MILLION BALANCE. BUT IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR OPERATING COSTS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF OUR OF OUR INVESTMENT POLICY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET ABOUT $6 MILLION OVER THERE.
SO IS THAT HOW MUCH IS THIS? IS THIS IS SEWARD SEWAGE, RIGHT? YES. YES 1.1. YEAH. ROADS CAN BE BUMPY, BUT THE TOILET'S GOT FLUSH.
EXACTLY. SEE, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. I MEAN, LIKE ROADS AND WATER GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE CITY, ALONG WITH WHAT? YOU WERE MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO BEHIND THE DREAM CENTER.
THE SECTION BEHIND THE DREAM CENTER TO 288 B HAS BEEN REPLACED.
IT ALL GOES TO ONE MANHOLE BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GOES TO THE TRACK AND CROSSES OVER.
SO WE HAD ONE SECTION THROUGH THERE THAT WAS LIKE 20 FOOT DEEP OR SOMETHING.
WE HAD ONE SECTION THAT RAN THROUGH THERE THAT WAS LIKE 20 FOOT DEEP OR SOMETHING RIGHT THERE.
AS YOU GET TO THE WHERE THE TRACKS ARE, IT'S ABOUT CLOSE TO 18FT DEEP.
THERE WAS A SECTION THERE ABOUT 30FT THAT WAS THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED.
THERE'S ALMOST A THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT BECAUSE WE HAD A SINKHOLE AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT TOO, THAT WE HAD TO COME OUT OF, IT WAS THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT JOHN'S REFERENCING IS FOR THE SAINT PAUL.
BUT THEN ONCE YOU GET TO THAT QUARTER, WASH EVERYTHING FROM THIS AREA HERE INCLUDING THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS ALL GRAVITY FED TO KOALA WASH, WHERE IT JOINS IN WITH THAT LINE INTO ONE MANHOLE BEFORE IT CROSSES THE TRACKS.
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SO ALL THIS AREA BACK HERE, THERE'S NO LIFT STATION FILM.IS IT JUST GRAVITY FEEDS? SO YOU HAVE A BIG RAIN WHEN IT HITS THAT ONE POINT.
THIS WHOLE AREA HERE IS, IS HANDICAPPED BY. YEAH, I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
SO HOW FAST DOES THE ENTER THE FUN 105. HOW YOU HOW HOW DOES IT REPLENISH EACH YEAR? TYPICALLY IT'S WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT COME UP, WE PUT MONEY IN THERE OUT OF THE UNRESTRICTED ENTERPRISE FUND.
SO FUNDING TO OKAY FUND 105 OKAY. SO WE HAVE 3.4 IN 105.
AND THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL SIX. OF COURSE WE DON'T EVER WANT TO LIKE GO ALL OUT AND SPEND IT ALL.
BUT I MEAN, DO WE. I THINK THE THE SEWAGE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
WE DON'T WANT NEIGHBORHOODS FLOODING EITHER. SO I MEAN, IT'S IT'S LIKE STUFF LIKE THAT OF, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHICH AREAS ARE THE WORST THAT JUST REALLY CANNOT WAIT, ARE THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO AFTER THIS IS AS WE GO INTO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
WE'LL COMPILE THOSE LISTED ABSOLUTE EMERGENCIES AND THEN LOOK AT STRETCHING THE CIP INSTEAD OF SIX HALF TO TEN YEARS AND THEN ALLOW YOU TO PRIORITIZE OR REPRIORITIZE AS THE YEARS GO BY.
YEAH. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO TAKE, LIKE I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING, WE CAN'T DO ALL OF THIS AT ONE POINT, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE A SET IDEA AND A SET PLAN GOING FORWARD SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO YEAR BY YEAR, SO THAT AS WE GET READY TO DO THIS PLAN OF FINANCE AND WE TAKE ON ADDITIONAL GROWTH RATE WITH THE CUSHION THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO SIGNIFICANTLY RAISE RATES ON TAXES OR WATER SERVICE. WELL, HERE'S MY HERE'S MY $50,000 QUESTION.
IF WE IF WE REPLACE THAT LIFT STATION, IS IT GOING TO OPERATE PROPERLY? IS IT GOING TO OPERATE PROPERLY? YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, I WOULD I WOULD HATE TO SPEND $1.1 MILLION AND IT STILL DOES THE SAME THING.
WELL, THE STATION ITSELF BECAUSE. BECAUSE THAT SERVICES OPERATES WELL HERE.
YOU'RE RUNNING 24 HOURS A DAY. YEAH, THAT THAT SERVICES 60% OF THE CITY AT LEAST.
YEAH. AND PROBABLY THE SMALLEST ONE, GIVEN THE FACT OF HOW SMALL IT IS, JUST THE WAY IT WELL, IN IT IS THE SIZE THAT IT USED TO BE. IT USED TO BE A DRY WELL IN THE TOP HALF OF THAT.
BUT IT'S IT'S NOT ABOUT, I'D SAY, MAYBE 20FT DEEP.
AND AS FAR AS THE PERIMETER OF IT, IT'S PROBABLY TEN BY TEN.
YEAH, IT'S VERY SMALL. IT'S VERY SMALL. WELL, ANOTHER THING THAT JUST CAME TO MIND WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS WHOLE AREA IS ALL GRAVITY FED. AND THE THOUGHT OF ADDING MORE TO IT.
IF WE DO ANYTHING AROUND THE LAKE LIKE WE WANT TO DO, THAT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT WORK.
AND WHAT DOES IT COST TO ADD ANOTHER LIFT STATION? WELL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH GOING TO BE THE LIFT STATION. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR KEY THING.
I THINK THE MAIN THING IS, IS WHEN YOU GET TO KOALA WASH WHERE IT CROSSES THE TRACK.
IF IN 2009 THEY REPLACED THAT TRUNK LINE GOING FROM RICHWOOD ALL THE WAY DOWN OLD ENGLAND RAILROAD CROSSING TO ABBEY AND THEN GOING INTO THE PLANT WITH THE WITH A LARGER LINE LIKE A 36 THEY SUPPLIED WITH THE 36 USED TO BE LIKE 42.
NOW THE LINE GOING INTO THE WASTEWATER PLANT THERE WAS LIKE A 24,000,000 INCH LINE.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GATHER UP, BECAUSE WHAT THE PRESSURE IS COMING IN FROM ONE SIDE, FROM ABOVE THE ROAD WHERE AT LEAST THAT ONE MAN HOPE IS OVERCOMING. WHAT'S COMING FROM THIS AREA HERE? THIS WATER HERE CAN'T GET IN THERE. BECAUSE IT'S OVERCOMING IT BY THAT OTHER LOT.
SO I THINK THE SIZING FOR THE BASED ON CURRENT USE IS PROBABLY THE SAME.
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THOSE LINES ON SHANKS WERE PUT IN AROUND 1949.YEAH. SO THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL GOT TO BE REDONE.
YEAH. ABOUT THAT. IF YOU REPLACE THOSE LINES, YOU TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF INFILTRATION.
YEAH. YOU GET RID OF THE INFILTRATION, YOU GET RID OF SOME OF THE FLOW GOING INTO THE PLANT.
AND IT'S OUR SINCERE HOPE THAT OUR GOOD FRIENDS IN RICHWOOD WILL TAKE ON THE CHALLENGE OF BUILDING THEIR OWN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY MITIGATE OUR NEED FOR FUTURE CAPACITY.
WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? WELL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
YEAH, WE UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE PART OF THE UNDER THE CONTRACT POINT TO FUND THE WHOLE THING.
THEY'RE GIVEN BASICALLY THE RIGHT TO PERPETUAL USE AS LONG AS THEY NEED IT.
WELL, WE'VE HAD BLOWOUTS ON THAT POND COMING OVER.
OH, THAT ONE TOO. YEP. YOU DON'T EVER SEE NOBODY WITHOUT THEIR HELP TO DO ANYTHING.
NO I KNOW. SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A BIG CONTRACT.
NO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A ELICITATION. IT'S REFERRING TO TAKES IN COLLEGE PARK, RIDGEWOOD.
IT TAKES IN WOOD SHORE. YEAH, I THINK COSTA VERDE.
WELL, THEY CROSSED INTO OURS. WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT FOLLOWS THAT SAME LINE, RIGHT? BUT THEN WHAT? THAT STATION IS ALSO TAKEN. IT'S TAKEN IN WORCESTER AS WELL.
RIGHT. AND IT'S TAKEN IN THE ROAD IN COSTA VERDE.
OH, THAT'S GOING INTO THAT LIFT STATION BEFORE IT GOES BACK DOWN THE ROAD.
SO WHENEVER THERE'S A BIG RAIN AND REJOICING AND THERE'S ALL THAT FROM WISHAW, COSTA VERDE, ALL THAT'S GOING INTO THAT NEW STATION AS WELL. AND THEN IN ANSWER TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, SO WE DO HAVE SOME CAPITAL EXPENDITURES IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT FACILITY.
AS IT STANDS NOW, WE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THIS TOO LOUD.
WHAT WAS OUR LAST RAIN? WHAT DID WE GET IN TERMS OF CAPACITY OR LESS? RAIN INFLOW AT THE PLANT. THE OTHER DAY WE WERE RECORDING FIVE SIX INCHES AT EACH RAIN GAUGE.
RIGHT? WHAT WAS THE FLOW RATE ON THE METER AT THE PLANT? OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOW RATE. OH, WE'RE WE'RE SETTING RIGHT AT 2.9 TO 3 RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE RUNNING AVERAGE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE TIPTOEING UP TO THE LINE WHERE WE UNDER TC REGULATIONS WOULD TRIGGER A PLANT EXPANSION.
THREE CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF A 35%. YEAH. SO WHEN BECAUSE I HAD HEARD THAT WOOD SHORE WAS DRAINING INTO OUR LAKE THING OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT THERE'S NO SPACE STATION AND IT COMES AROUND, BUT IT GOES DOWN.
YEAH. I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT STORMWATER.
YES. YOUR STORMWATER DRAINS INTO THE LAKE SYSTEM THERE AND THEN OUTFALLS AT TWO DIFFERENT POINTS, ONE INTO THE J THAT RUNS INTO OYSTER CREEK THROUGH JUST BEHIND COLLEGE PARK, AND THEN ANOTHER OUTFLOW THAT ACTUALLY FLOWS COUNTERINTUITIVELY NORTH ACROSS LAKE JACKSON AND OYSTER CREEK AT THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LAKE.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT HE'S SAYING WITH THE NUMBERS GOING UP, THERE'S THAT MUCH WATER INFILTRATION UNDER HOUSES, BUSTED SEWER PIPES THAT WE'RE TREATING AS SEWER WATER.
GOT HOLES KNOCKED IN THE SEWER LINES. THEY TAKE THE PLANE OUT TO CLEAN OUT.
SOME OF THEM AREN'T EVEN COVERED ANYMORE. WE REPLACE THEM, BUT THEN THEY COME RIGHT AROUND AND THEY COME RIGHT BACK OUT. SO THEREFORE, WE'RE ALSO PAYING TO TREAT RAINWATER WITH INFILTRATION, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S WHERE YOU BLOW YOUR TWO HOUR. I'M LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS. YOU GOT TO DO THIS THE WAY YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT, ONE BITE AT A TIME.
SO YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE. AND IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE THAT.
YOU NEED TO START AT THE WORST PLACES AND WORK YOUR WAY BACK.
PIPES AND PAVEMENT. THERE WE ARE. PIPES AND PAVEMENT.
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KEEPING THEM OUT OF SOME OF THOSE STREETS. I THINK THAT THE GOAL IS TO GET THOSE LINES THAT ARE IN THE STREETS OUT OF THE STREET, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS TO REDO A STREET AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK, REALIZE YOU GOT A LINE THERE THAT WAS PUT IN THE 1940S THAT YOU GOT TO GO BACK AND REPLACE IT, BUT THEN YOU ALREADY GOT A NEW STREET. IS THAT IN THE IN THE TOTALS THAT WE'RE SEEING.SO LIKE OLD ANGLETON, ROBY AND 10 MILLION IS MOVING PIPES IF THAT MAY BE UNDERNEATH THEIR ROAD.
YOUR SEWER LINE COMING FROM BUCKY'S IS OUT OF THE ROAD CROSSES OVER IT, STAYS OUT OF THE WATER, LINES ARE OUT OF THE ROAD, BUT ONCE YOU GET TO THE LIFT STATION AND IT PUMPS OUT, ONCE IT GETS TO THE WOOD, IT GOES IN THAT ONE LANE ALL THE WAY DOWN. BUT IT'S A MAIN TRUNK LINE.
IT'S NOT. IT'S ALREADY BEEN REPLACED FOR THE NEW WATER LINE.
A LOT OF IT IS UNDER THE ROAD FROM FROM BASICALLY THE STOP SIGN AT BRAZOS WOOD, RIGHT THE WAY ALL THE WAY UP TO THE RED LIGHT HERE, AS WELL AS YOUR WATER LINE TO THE BRAZOS WOOD ALL THE WAY TO MAIN STREET.
YEAH. AND THEN GET THE SIDEWALK WHERE IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO, LIKE THE TRAFFIC.
AND THEN WATER ON EITHER SIDE OF IT UP IS NOT GOING TO LET THAT HAPPEN.
WELL, NOW THAT THAT SEWER LINE DOWN OPELIKA ROAD IS NOT OLD, THOUGH IT WAS IN 2009, IT WAS LINED WITH A 36 INCH AND IT WAS THAT HEAVY WALL PLASTIC. IT'S HDPE ABOUT ABOUT AN INCH THICK.
YES. AND THEN HERE, PROBABLY DURING THAT ONE HURRICANE, THE FORCE MAIN FROM RIDGEWOOD WHERE IT BROKE LOOSE, WE REPLACED IT FROM WHERE IT CROSSES AT THE THIS STATION TO BRAZOS WOOD.
YEAH. SO THAT LINE WAS REPLACED AS WELL? YEAH.
YEAH. SORRY. HOW MANY? HOW DEEP? WELL, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT NO MORE 12 FOOT FOR ME.
DUG, DUG DOWN THERE, CLOSE TO THE LIFT STATION AT ONE TIME.
THAT WAS THIS ONE I'M REFERRING TO. YES, BUT THAT'S THE FORCE MAIN.
YEAH. IT'S ABOUT WHAT? IT'S DEEP. YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S PROBABLY 15FT DEEP RIGHT THERE. YEAH. IT WAS A GOOD 12, 14 FOOT DEEP.
IN THE 40S AND 50S, IT WAS JUST THE WAY THINGS WERE DONE.
I'M STILL NOT SURE WHY, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ALWAYS HAD THE 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
WHAT? NO CELL PHONES? YEAH. BUT I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST STARTED, THAT SECTION OF BERNARD COLLAPSED, AND IT WAS KIND OF EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE WATCHING BASICALLY LOSE AN ENTIRE STREET BECAUSE THE SEWER LINE COLLAPSED.
SO THAT THAT WATER SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON BUMPY ROAD, THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE FUND 105, FUND 105 OR FUND FOR FUNDING TO THOSE ARE ENTERPRISE FUND PROJECTS.
YEAH. SO IF I CAN KIND OF DIAL IN AND MAKE SURE I GOT THE DIRECTION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ARTERIALS FIRST BUMPY ROAD, LOOP STATION, SEWER MAIN AND THEN KIND OF GO FROM THERE IN THE FUTURE YEARS, THE ARTERIALS WOULD BE THE SPECIFIC ONES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
YEAH. THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR IN PROGRESS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN EIGHT WEEKS. YEAH. A PIECE OF GARBAGE.
IT NEVER RAINS. IT NEVER RAINS IN THE SUMMER HERE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE RAIN OUT THERE? YEAH, I HEARD OF IT.
HAVE YOU AN ANSWER IN TWO WEEKS? IT'S NOT. IT'S WAY LONGER.
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YEAH. CITIZENS WILL HAVE TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO DO IT OR NOT.YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT 30 MILLION.
40 MILLION. YEAH, $50 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME.
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE THROUGH THE ELECTION BOOTH. SO I GUESS MAKE A LIST OF LIKE, THE STREETS THAT ARE THE WORST. THE ANY. WATER, SEWAGE PIPES THAT ARE REALLY BAD THAT NEED TO. AND WE'RE JUST WE JUST START HITTING THEM.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NARROW THAT DOWN OKAY. WELL YOU HAVE TO DO THE SCALE OF 1 TO 10.
THE REST OF THEM ARE ALL THAT SAME NAME, WHICH IS PROBABLY 70% OF THE TOWN.
YEP. I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE EVERYBODY UP ON SENIOR.
EVEN THE NEW HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT OVER HERE ON SMITH STREET.
AND. AND DOWN THROUGH THERE, THEY'RE TIED INTO THAT PIPE THAT'S 40 YEARS OLD.
YEAH. YEAH. SO YOUR REMAINS COME TO A TOTAL OF 12 MILLION. IT MAY JUST BE LIKE EVERY YEAR WE JUST PICK A SECTION. THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS BASICALLY BRING BACK TO YOU A PLAN FOR DOING X SECTION THIS YEAR, X SECTION NEXT YEAR. OBVIOUSLY THE THE UPGRADE TAKES PRIORITY THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO EXTRA. YEAH WE'LL JUST START HITTING EACH ONE EACH YEAR.
YES. SO THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THE FIVE.
YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONES THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.
IF YOU IF YOU FIX A BUMPY ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE PUMPING THROUGH THAT PIPE.
CORRECT? CORRECT. YES, SIR. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ROAD? BUT ALSO WHERE IT GOES INTO THE PLANT. WHERE IT ALL OUT THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I SAY. BUT IF YOU FIX THE BUMPY ROAD THAT PUMPS THROUGH THAT PIPE.
YEAH. THINK ABOUT THAT. REPLACE OLD STUFF WITH NEW AND THEN CAUSING MORE ISSUES.
YEAH. WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO THAT END, IT'S STILL GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT PIPE, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT I ASK YOU, I REPORT ON OUR DEBT. INCOME? YES, SIR. BURDEN. WHO DOES THAT? SO, STANDARD AND POOR'S.
WHEN THEY'RE DOING OUR DEBT EVALUATION, THEY PULL THAT DATA THROUGH S3 AND EXPERIMENT.
AND YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED AT THE DETAIL LEVEL.
SO LIKE, THEY CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH GETS SPENT PER HOUSEHOLD ON TOOTHBRUSHES AND TOOTHPASTE AND TRUCKS AND TIRES AND ALL THAT. AND IF YOU RECALL WHAT WE DID OUR LAST ISSUE IN 2020, WE WERE RIGHT AT THE SCORE MARK TO GET A TRIPLE-A RATING FROM THEM, BUT WE COULDN'T. AND WHEN I ASKED, WHAT'S THE HOLD ON? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE RIGHT ON THE LINE. HE SAID, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
YOU GET WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE DRIVING. THEY CAN BE NICE TRUCKS.
HE SAID YOUR AUTO TRUCK FINANCING IS WAY TOO HIGH.
OH, GOD. SO I CAN TELL YOU, THIS WAS THE BIG TIRE FOR THE BIG TRUCKS.
NOT A WHOLE LOT ROUGHER THAN ONE WITH THE SMALL WITH THE REGULAR TIRE. MY CONCERN WITH THAT, BASED ON OUR OPINION ON IS THIS SELF-INFLICTED DEBT.
YES, SIR. YEAH. YEAH. SO HOW DOES THE CITY WORK AROUND THAT? WE CAN'T. THAT'S THE REASON I'M VERY CAREFUL. ALL THE WAY OUT HERE ON THE LAM. I'M TRYING TO DO FOR NOW.
AND WHAT WAS THE NAME? WHAT'D YOU SAY? WHO DOES THAT? STANDARD POOR'S. AND THEN THEY PULL REPORTS FROM ESRI AND EXPERIAN.
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I THINK THAT THE. EXPERIENCE IS ONE OF THE CREDIT BUREAUS.YEAH, I KNOW THAT. OH BUT WHAT WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET ONE OF THOSE REPORTS? OR IS IT POSSIBLE IT'S A SUBSCRIPTION FEE? I DON'T KNOW.
WE'LL FIND OUT. JUST CURIOUS. ANONYMOUSLY. I SHOULDN'T BE SO.
THANK YOU. YES. INPUT. WE GOT TO FIND SOME MONEY.
A LOT OF MONEY WE SPENT LAST YEAR. EVERYBODY KIND OF HAD TO KIND OF IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S THE.
OH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THE STEP THAT WE NEED TO.
OR THE PROCESS WE NEED TO FOLLOW AND SEE HOW WE CAN GET THERE.
STICKER SHOCK IS STILL SITTING HERE. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S WHAT IT IS.
YEAH. WHEN WE STARTED THIS EXERCISE AND THE THE THE WORST PART ABOUT IT IS THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THE WORSE IT GETS. OH, YEAH. IN BOTH DIRECTIONS IT GETS WORSE.
BUT THEN THE COST GOES UP TOO. SO YEAH, I THINK WHEN WE WERE, I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS WHAT, 6 OR 7 MILES OF PIPE THAT WE DID DOWN THE ROAD IN 2009. IF I SAY WHAT? THREE. THREE. FOUR. FIVE.
AND THEN THE GARAGES WOULD. ALL THE WAY TO WHERE IT CROSSED THE TRACK TO GO TO THE BEACH.
NOW, ONCE THEY GO TO START SECOND, THEN WE THEN WE HAD TO WIND UP DOING AN EXTRA SESSION OVER THERE.
BEHIND SOMEWHERE. OVER THERE. RIGHT. AND LIKE PROBABLY WHAT? FIVE MILES. CLOSE TO IT. THREE. 4 OR 5 MILES.
SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS LIKE $2 MILLION, I THINK, AT THAT TIME.
PROBABLY NOW COST EIGHT. SO, YEAH, WE ESTIMATE.
IF IT'S A MAIN, YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING 90 TO $120 MILLION A YEAR.
YEAH, THAT WAS A 32 OR 36 INCH ONE INCH WALL HDPE PIPE PUT IN A 42 INCH CASING.
I KNOW THAT AND FILLED WITH CONCRETE. 36 IN THERE AND FILLED IT UP WITH CONCRETE.
DO YOU KNOW THE VOLUME THAT RICHWOOD IS TRANSMITTING TO US CURRENTLY? DO YOU KNOW THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM RICHWOOD TO OUR WASTEWATER? NOW, CURRENTLY, THE AVERAGE AVERAGE DAILY FLOW OF RIDGEWOOD WITH NO RAIN IS AROUND 3 OR 400,000 GALLONS A DAY.
THAT'S THAT'S IF THEY REPORT IT. OKAY. THAT DOESN'T TURN THE METER ON.
AND ANYTHING OVER 1 MILLION, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THEM.
WELL, MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE OVERFLOWING YOUR BRAIN, THEY SAY THEY'VE GOT THE FIRST 1 TO 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WHICH IS DURING THE RAIN, BUT NOW THEY'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 300,000 A DAY.
OKAY. AND THAT'S THAT'S FROM THE INFILTRATION.
THAT'S JUST THEIR FLOW. THAT'S THE. NO, NO. ON THE BIG DAYS.
YEAH, THE BIG DAYS IS. IT'S A WATER, AIN'T I? OKAY. THAT'S PRETTY LONG THERE. BECAUSE WHEN WE WHEN WE ALLOCATED THE COST BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES AS FAR AS THE WASTEWATER PLANT, THEIR ALLOCATION WAS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AVERAGE.
THEY'RE BASICALLY $1 MILLION TO THE PLANT. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE 25% OF THE PLANT.
WE ACTUALLY TAKE A READING ON THEIR STATION EVERY DAY.
RIGHT. SO WE'VE TRACKED THAT SO THAT WE'VE GOT THAT ON ON RECORD.
THERE WAS. THEY HAVEN'T CALIBRATED EVERY YEAR.
AND WE GET A COPY OF THE REPORT OKAY. ACCOUNTABILITY.
TO WORK YOUR MAGIC, CHECK THE TRANSMISSION LINE.
YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WE ARE TAKING DONATIONS. AND IF YOU WIN THE LOTTERY, WE WILL NAME SOMETHING OUT.
WE ARE TAKING DONATIONS. YEAH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE WORKSHOP? I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION I GUESS IS THERE REALLY IS NO WAY.
TO ENFORCE OUR. I GUESS IT'D TAKE AN OUTSIDE PERSON TO CONSIDER THIS INFILTRATION ISSUE.
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IT SEEMS TO BE REALLY A MAJOR, MAJOR DEAL FROM THESE NUMBERS.I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE TAKING CLEANUPS OFF.
WELL, I JUST I GUESS THERE REALLY IS NO WAY TO CONTROL IT.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLING JUST FROM A RAINSTORM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED A LITTLE MORE INTO FROM AN INSPECTION BASIS.
FROM THAT PROPERTY, WE I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE CLEAN OUTS.
JUST FOR INSTANCE, I FOUND TWO OVER HERE ON HARGETT STREET.
THE THEIR CLEANED OUTS ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE DITCH AND THEY'RE BOTH GONE.
SPEAKING OF AREAS WHERE SOME OF THE OLD LAKE WATER HAS A LOT OF THE SEWER LINES ARE IN THE REAR EASEMENTS OR THE REAR EASEMENTS WHERE THE WATER DRAINS TO TOO, AND IT GOES INTO THE DITCHES THERE. SO ALL THE CLEAN OUTS IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS HAVE A TENDENCY OF TAKING THE CLEAN OUTS OFF TO DRAIN THEIR BACKYARDS.
IT GOES DIRECTLY INTO THAT SYSTEM. SO THAT HITS THAT LIVE OAK LIFT STATION AND THE RED LIGHTS ON IT.
IT'LL STAY ON UNTIL IT CAN PUMP ALL THAT WATER DOWN AND GET IT OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
THERE'S NO CONTROLLING THAT. WE GO OUT THERE, WE TELL THE PEOPLE, QUIT DOING IT, OR WE PUT CLEAN HOUSE ON THERE AND GO BACK OUT THERE AND THEY'RE OFF AGAIN. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE TO WHERE WE CAN FIND THEM FOR TAKING THEM OFF.
OR WE TAKE THE CLEAN OUTS OUT AND THEY'LL GIVE THEM A CLEAN OUT AT THE PROPER TIME. WELL, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP A WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS, BUT, I MEAN, WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING MONEY ON A SEWER PLANT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TREAT RAINWATER. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY SERIOUS.
YEAH. SO AND PART OF THE PLAN WOULD BE TO, AS WE LOWER THE STREETS, MAYOR MENTIONED THAT THAT SORT OF THE DRAINAGE, THE IDEA WOULD HOPEFULLY BE THAT AS YOU LOWER THOSE STREETS.
MOST OF THAT WATER IS MAKING IT OUT OF THE FRONT. NOT COMING OUT OF THE BACK.
THERE SHOULD BE. SHOULD STILL BE IT. HERE I GO.
MAYBE I'M TEACHING IN LONGHORN. HOLD SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE FOR DOING IT.
IF IT'S YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU'RE DOING IT, YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW.
YEAH. YEAH I KNOW. WHEN I MOVED IN MY HOUSE AND HAD PLAYED PARK, AND I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE MAY KNOW, MAY NOT KNOW, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME VERY INTENTIONAL PURPOSES AS WELL.
WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, I GO UP AND KNOCK ON THE FRONT DOOR OF THREE HOUSES OVER HERE ON CRESTWOOD RIGHT NOW AND GO, OH, WHAT IS THAT? AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT I AND I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU MENTION IT TO THEM.
IT'S NOT TO DRAIN THE WATER OUT THERE. WELL, THERE'S ONE THING ABOUT CRESTWOOD THOUGH. IT DOES HAVE TO GO TO THE STREET SO IT DOESN'T HAVE. THEY'RE NOT IN THE DITCH LIKE THEY'RE NOT IN THE BOTTOM OF THE DITCH.
LIKE HE'S TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE WATER DITCH YOU FEEL LIKE GOING IN THERE? BUT YOU'RE OFF THE EVE OF THE HOUSE. YOU'RE PLAYING THAT WATER FACTOR BY 4 OR 5, RIGHT? AND SO THAT HOMEOWNER SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HE'S DOING.
OR CAN HE BE? MAYBE NOT. HOWEVER, THAT'S A QUESTION.
YEAH. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS VERY SERIOUS. IT IS MORE SO THAN YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT.
WELL, IT'S JUST RAINWATER. BUT WHEN YOUR NUMBERS DON'T.
YEAH, I GET THAT WATER OUT. THEY CAN ONLY GET IT OUT SO FAST, BECAUSE IF THEY JUST BLOW THE TWO HOURS GOING IN THE STORM SEWER, IT'S GOING IN THE SANITARY SEWER. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT BACKS UP IN OURS. SURE. AND WE'VE BEEN THREATENED AND SPENT TESTING, TOO ON SOME OF THESE FIELD TRIALS BECAUSE WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE THAN A LITTLE.
BUT ACCORDING TO WHAT I READ ABOUT RICH WOOD'S BUDGET THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING SUPPOSEDLY, IS INFILTRATION. AND WE'VE ALL TRIED IT. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT AREAS WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT REPLACING MAINS WITH ONE OF THEM, BUT THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLEAN HOUSES IS ANOTHER.
YEAH. IT'S JUST YOU GOT THESE LINES THAT ARE ARE 60, 70 YEARS OLD AND THEY'RE DETERIORATING.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CRACKS IN THOSE LINES AND SEEPING GROUNDWATER GETS INTO THOSE LINES AS WELL.
IF YOU IF YOU WERE HERE DURING THE DROUGHT, WEREN'T YOU.
HOW MANY HOW MANY LINES WENT LIKE THIS DURING THE DROUGHT? OH YEAH. WELL, WE HAD PLACES. WE HAD PLACES DUG UP ALL OVER TOWN WITH PATCHING THOSE HOLES.
IF YOU COME TO THE MIC, YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING.
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RAIN, THAT'S X. THAT'S THAT X NUMBER, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE FORMULA.OKAY THEN HERE COMES THE RAINS AND IT GOES UP.
OKAY. LIKE YOU SAY OKAY THEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE INFILTRATION WATER GETTING INTO THE SYSTEM.
RAINWATER OKAY. THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF THE FORM.
BECAUSE IT WILL NEVER GET THERE WITH THE RAIN THAT WE HAVE.
TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO BE LOWER DOWN.
IF THEY'RE RUNNING AT 300 MILLION OR 300,000 GALLONS, BUT THEY'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE 25%, I TELL YOU WHAT DO WE TAKE AROUND? WE TAKE REGIONAL REPRESENTATION EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND WE ALSO TAKE THE RAIN GAUGES. SO EVERY ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT WE HAVE UP FROM OUR PAST 11, 12 YEARS, YOU CAN GO TO FOR ANY PARTICULAR DAY YOU WANT ON THE RANGE.
IF THE STATIONS DON'T INCREASE, THEN YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT LESS INFILTRATION IN THAT SYSTEM.
SOME OF THE STATIONS YOU CAN TELL WHAT THE LESSER IS.
YOU CAN DEFINITELY TELL WHERE THE GREATER DEPRESSION IS GOING TO BE FROM THOSE STATIONS.
FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THAT LITTLE STATION THERE THAT THAT TAKES NATIONALLY, IT'S GOING TO GO UP.
BUT THE ROAD, BECAUSE IT'S ON A BFD, IT DOESN'T.
OKAY. SO ALL I'M SAYING IS YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR THE CONTRACT WHEN IT COMES AROUND AGAIN.
AND DON'T GET RICH WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER. BRING IT DOWN.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE HASN'T BEEN. JUST THE.
YEAH. THE WAY, THE WAY THE THE WAY THAT THE CONTRACT WAS INITIALLY WHEN THE PLAN WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE 80S, THE WAY IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, IT'S EVERGREEN. AND SO UNTIL THEY GET THEIR OWN PLAN, THEY GET THAT UPDATE, THEY GET THAT A LOT OF CAPACITY. RICHWOOD BASICALLY OWNS 25% OF THE SEWER PLANT.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S A FAIR NUMBER. WELL, AT THE TIME IT PROBABLY WAS.
YEAH. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S ENOUGH WATER RUNNING THROUGH IT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE TO BUILD A NEW PLANT OR SOMETHING, THEN THEY WOULD BE ON THE HOOK. SO AT THAT POINT, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GO TO THE TO THEM WITH THE CONTRACT AND BE LIKE, WELL, AT THAT TIME THEY WOULD AT THAT TIME, THEY WOULD EITHER CHIP IN FOR THE CHIP IN THEIR PERCENTAGE FOR THE EXPANSION, OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD THEIR OWN. OKAY. AND THEN MAINTENANCE COVERAGE FOR THE GUYS TO GO OUT THERE AND KEEP THE BUILDING.
WELL, SOME KIND OF NUMBER IN THERE. BUT SO THAT NUMBER GETS FACTORED INTO THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.
WELL, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS. WE GOT A LOT OF INFILTRATION INCLUDED.
YEAH. OH, YEAH. YEAH. YOU CAN HAVE IT ANYWHERE.
THANK YOU. WELL, CHRIS, CAN YOU LOOK AT THAT FOR A FUTURE? WHAT? JEFF WAS TALKING ABOUT. IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE CAN GO AFTER INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. I NEED TO TALK TO CJ AND JOHN SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE WATER IS.
WELL, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT IS GETTING IN.
THERE ARE EIGHT PIPES THEY CAN GET IN THERE. ALL THE, ALL THE A LOT OF THE OLD PIPE IN TOWN HAS GOT PIPES, BALANCE JOINTS AND, YOU KNOW, IT LEAKS THROUGH THOSE BELLS AND SPIT.
OKAY. IS THAT SO. THAT WOULD ALSO BE FROM THE HOUSE TO THE METER OR FROM THE HOUSE TO.
BUT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN. ANY OPENING THAT ALLOWS THAT TO GET IN THERE? YES, THEY CAN HAVE. THEY CAN HAVE A PIPE THAT'S UNDER THE HOUSE, THAT'S THAT'S CRACKED UNDER THE HOUSE, UNDER A SLAB, EVEN IF IT'S CRACKED. AND IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE GROUND GETS SATURATED,
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IT'S GOING TO COME UP IN THERE SO YOU CAN'T STOP ITS DELIBERATE ACTION, I GUESS IS MY RIGHT.AND IF THERE'S 10%, IT WOULD BE A LOT OF WATER.
THEY STILL EXPECT US TO REPORT IT, CORRECT? YEAH.
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING IT SHOULD TAKE CARE. YEAH.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
[VI. NOTICE/ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS]
NOW NOTICE AND ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS.INDEPENDENCE DAY IS FRIDAY, JULY THE 4TH, 2025 AND CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED.
NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE ON JULY THE 10TH, 2025 AT 7 P.M.
AND THE FIRST BUDGET FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP WILL BE SATURDAY, JULY THE 12TH, 2025 STARTING AT 9 A.M.
AND WE WILL NEED A QUORUM AT THAT AT THE VERY END.
THERE IS ONE MORE ON THE 31ST THURSDAY, A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE RECORD LUMINARY BUDGET.
YES, AT 630. THE VOTERS HAVE THE WHOLE RECORD ON THIS.
OKAY. THEN ON JULY 24TH THROUGH THE 26TH, 2025 AT THE MUNICIPAL PARK WILL BE THE 43RD ANNUAL GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL.
AND THEN, ROSIE, YOU SAID, WHAT? WHAT DATE WAS THAT? THE 30TH JULY 30TH, THURSDAY, JULY THE 31ST. WILL THERE BE A RECORD VOTE ON WHAT? THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET TAX RATE? PRELIMINARY TAX RATE, TAX RATE.
THAT'S 630 AT 630. JULY 31ST. AT 06:30 P.M.. THAT WILL NEED TO BE A QUORUM FOR THAT AS WELL.
I DON'T REMEMBER FIRST, WHAT WAS THE TIME FOR THE JULY 31ST VOTE? 06:30 P.M. OKAY.
THEN NEXT TIME WILL BE ADJOURNMENT. SO MOVED BY COUNCILMAN CHRIS, SECONDED BY.
I'LL SECOND COUNCILMAN AGUILAR, IF ANY. NO DISCUSSION.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.
UNANIMOUS. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. I'M.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.