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          DOUGLAS IS HEREBY 
          [I. COMMENCEMENT]
GIVING A BUDGET WORKSHOP TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, JULY THE 12TH, 2025 AT 9:00 AM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF KLU CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 1 0 8 MAIN STREET, KLU, TEXAS 7 7 5 3 1 FOR THE BELOW LISTED ITEMS. SO COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. 
          INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED. 
          SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1. 
          CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY. 
          5 5 1 0 7 2. 
          DELIBERATION ABOUT WILL PROPERTY 5 5 1 0 7 3 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT GIFTS OF DONATIONS. 
          5 5 1 0 7 4 PERSONNEL MATTERS. 
          5 5 1 0 7 6. 
          DELIBERATION ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES 5 5 1 0 8 7. 
          ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 4 8 7 5 8 3 DELIBERATION ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUES AND IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO. 
          SECTION 3 2 1 0.3022 SALES TAX INFORMATION. 
          THE AGENDA MEETING PACKET AND VIDEO LINK ARE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWW.CL TEXAS.GOV. 
          TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AND GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FORM MUST BE COMPLETED AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY CLERK BEFORE THE START OF THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT THE RECORDING OF THE MEETING. 
          MEETING VIDEO WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE UPON WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE PUBLIC AND ACCORD WITH OPEN MEETING. 
          DOCUMENT MEETING HAS NOW BEEN CALLED TO ORDER, UH, CALLED JOIN US IN THE LITTLE LITTLE PRAYER. 
          LORD, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING YOU TO GIVE US THE WISDOM TO SPEND THE CITY'S MONEY WISELY, TO DO THE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS AND TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. 
          WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD PLACE YOUR HANDS AND HEART ON THOSE IN THE HILL COUNTRY THAT HAVE LOST LIVES AND LOVED ONES, AND THAT YOU WOULD BRING THEM THE PEACE AND AND SATISFACTION THAT THEY NEED AND GIVE THEM THE STRENGTH TO ENDURE THROUGH THE TIMES THAT THEY ARE SUFFERING. 
          WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. 
          AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE OF LIBERTY AND JUSTICE SPRAWL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT ITEM BE ROLL CALL CAPITAL CHIP. 
          PRESENT. 
          ERIC AGUILAR. 
          PRESENT. 
          NICOLE MADDOX. 
          PRESENT. 
          JOE LOPEZ PRESENT. 
          FRANCIS VAUGHN PRESENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, 
          [II. BUSINESS ITEMS ]
FIRST ITEM IS BUSINESS ITEM AND I'VE BEEN ASKED IF WE TAKE THIS PENDING FURTHER REVIEW OF THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE, UH, BEFORE WE APPROVE IT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, TABLE, TABLE RESOLUTION NUMBER 40 DASH 2025. 
          I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. 
          MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL LAR SAY YOU GOODBYE. 
          I'LL SECOND COUNCIL LOPEZ PENDING. 
          NO DISCUSSION. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE. 
          ALL IF FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          UNANIM. 
          [III. WORKSHOP ITEMS]
NEXT ITEM IS WORKSHOP ITEMS. AND THE FIRST ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26. 
          BUDGET. 
          AND Y'ALL ARE UP BANANA BREAD. 
          BANANA BREAD. 
          YOU CAN LISTEN. 
          SORRY, JUST I, I'M JUST WAS TELLING THEM ARNOLD MADE BANANA BREAD FOR EVERYBODY. 
          IT'S OVER THERE. 
          IT'S HOT. 
          OH, NICE. 
          IT'S NOT WHY I'M LIGHT, BUT . 
          I WAS GONNA BLAME IT ON HIM. 
          ANYWAY. 
          ANY CHOCOLATE MILK? NO, SORRY. 
          NO CHOCOLATE. 
          WE'LL BRING CHOCOLATE MILK NEXT TIME. 
          SORRY. 
          OF COURSE. 
          UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I DO WANT TO, AGAIN, CREDIT STAFF, UH, COREY ANGEL, ROSIE LANDON, UH, PUT IN, UH, A TON OF EFFORT GETTING THIS READY. 
          AND I ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT THEIR DILIGENCE, UH, THEIR FISCAL STEWARDSHIP AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO COMPROMISE. 
          AND, UH, I THINK RATIONALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET, UH, EVERY YEAR IS A CHALLENGE. 
          UH, THIS YEAR IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT 'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF, A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE TO US THIS YEAR THAN WE'VE MAYBE FACED IN PRIOR, PRIOR YEARS. 
          UH, BUT, UH, IT'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN'T OVERCOME AND, AND, UH, AND, UH, SUCCEED IN MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE HAD TO CANCEL THIS FEE 'CAUSE OF HURRICANE BARREL AND WE ARE STILL FILLING ITS EFFECTS, BOTH PHYSICALLY, PHYSICALLY AND FISCALLY. 
          UH, WE ARE STILL WAITING OUR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE CATEGORY B FUNDING AND SOME OTHER FEMA MONEY, UH, WHICH COULD HAVE A HUGE IMPACT. 
          I'LL KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE BOTTOM LINE HERE JUST A BIT. 
          UH, I WILL, I GUESS, HAVE WE BEEN REIMBURSED ANYTHING FROM FEMA YET? WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT, WE'VE GOT THE  MONEY BACK FROM 
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'EM. 
          UH, AND I WANNA SAY ABOUT 8,000 SO FAR. 
          SO WE'VE STILL GOT QUITE A BIT. 
          YEAH, . 
          YEAH, WE'VE STILL GOT QUITE A BIT TO GO. 
          SO, UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND IT'LL PROBABLY LIKELY, WE THINK MAYBE BEST, UH, 80% CHANCE WE GET IT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEARS. 
          SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL NOT BE IN THE YEARS AND YEARS LIKE IT WAS FOR HURRICANE I. 
          SO, UM, WE CONTINUED TO STRUGGLE, UH, DUE TO REVENUE RESTRICTIONS. 
          UH, WE HAVE BEEN INCREASING CAPITAL NEEDS AND RISING OPERATIONAL COSTS. 
          UH, AND SO WE'VE HAD TO REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK THIS YEAR AT SERVICE LEVELS AND SUSTAINABILITY, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, WE ARE GONNA TALK TODAY, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY JOHN'S MOM'S 90TH BIRTHDAY, SO OH MY. 
          WE GET FIRST AND THEN THAT'S AWESOME. 
          AFTER AND DURING THE GAUNTLET THIS MORNING HE'S GONNA TRUCK IT OVER TO MONT. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL HIT HIM FIRST. 
          UH, BUT I DID WANT TO KIND OF GO OVER THE KIND OF A FEW BIG THINGS BEFORE WE GET THERE. 
          UH, EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY SEVERAL BUDGETS WHICH ARE INTERRELATED. 
          AND THE PROCESS IS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN. 
          WE DIVIDE OUR FUNDS INTO MAJOR FUNDS AND MINOR FUNDS, THE MAJORS, ONES BEING THE GENERAL, THE ENTERPRISE UTILITY FUNDS, SIDEWALK STREETS AND DRAINAGE, WHICH IS BASICALLY REPRESENTS THE, THE CIP, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOT, UH, AND DEBT SERVICE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE OUR MINOR FUNDS, WHICH SERVE AS ANCILLARY FUNDS AND, UH, TRANSFER PLACES AND, UH, SAVINGS FOR THOSE OTHER ONES. 
          AND THAT'S A BLANK SLIDE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          HERE'S EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE, UH, ANIMATION OF WHAT, HOW THE BUDGET AND THE FUNDS ACTUALLY FLOW. 
          SO OUR REVENUES REPRESENTED IN GREEN, THE FUNDS ARE THERE, YOU SEE WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM AND GOES TO, AND THEN THAT OUTFLOWS AND ENTER BETWEEN THOSE FUNDS. 
          AND THEN THAT ALL TRICKLES UP INTO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. 
          IT'S VERY SIMPLE, UH, AND SERVICE, SERVICE PROVISION. 
          SO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG OLD JUMBLE MESS OF, UH, SPAGHETTI BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS. 
          SO DOES IT ALL GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN FROM THERE WE DISPERSE IT OUT TO THE OTHER FUND? NO, NOT NECESSARILY. 
          SO, UH, FUND OH FIVE, FUND OH SIX FUND OH TWO, UH, ALL HAVE THEIR SEPARATE REVENUE STREAMS. SO AS THEY COME IN, WHEN IT COMES IN, IT GOES DIRECTLY, IT GOES, YES, MA'AM WAS CREDITED INTO THOSE ACCOUNTS. 
          NOW WE OPERATE A POOL CASH ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, UH, FINANCE SYSTEM. 
          SO, UH, EVERYTHING IS HELD IN JOINT ACCOUNTS, BUT EVERY, EVERY, EVERY FUND HAS ITS OWN ACCOUNT. 
          SO, UH, THIS YEAR WE'RE PROJECTING BETWEEN 12 AND 13 MILLION. 
          UH, THERE'S LOTS OF FACTORS THAT COULD, UH, COULD IMPACT THAT, UH, ONE OF THOSE BEING REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA. 
          ALSO, WHAT THIS KIND OF DECISIONS ON WHERE WE GO IN TERMS OF RATES AND, UH, FEES. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED 3.5% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR IN VALOR REVENUE. 
          THAT'S THE BASE LEVEL WE SHOULD HAVE OUR NUMBERS IN FROM THE COUNTY. 
          UH, I DID GET A LETTER FROM MS. ECK EARLIER THIS WEEK STATING THAT SHE ANTICIPATES COLLECTING 99.07% OF ALL, UH, TAXES ON TIME THIS YEAR. 
          UH, OUR TREND HAS BEEN 96, SO WE'LL SEE IF WE MAKE THE 99. 
          BUT, UH, EITHER WAY, UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE, UH, INCREASE IN REVENUE. 
          AND LIKEWISE, WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, THIS IS ALL PREDICATED, I'M GOING TO THE, UH, TO WHAT WE CALL THE, UH, WE USED TO CALL IT THE ROLLBACK RATE. 
          NOW WE CALL IT THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, REVENUE? NO, NO, IT'S NOT THE NO, NO REVENUE. 
          IT'S, NO, IT'S NOT THE DEMAND. 
          THEY'VE GOT SIX NAMES. 
          I PICK ONE. 
          IT'S ALL, BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE ONE THAT, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING GOING TO THE ONE THAT WOULD INCREASE TAXES POINT, BUT NOT REQUIRE  ELECTION. 
          SO, UH, WE ANTICIPATE A SLIGHT GROWTH IN SALES TAX. 
          UH, WE HAVE BEEN PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THIS YEAR. 
          WE'VE SEEN GROWTH YEAR, MONTH OVER MONTH. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT SURE, UH, WHETHER THAT WE, WE DID HAVE A BIG JUMP IN ONE MONTH AND WE THINK THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO SOME CLAWBACK BY THE COMPTROLLER, BUT, UH, EITHER WAY WE WERE HAPPY TO SEE IT. 
          AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT CONTINUES GOING AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO GROW OUR COMMERCIAL BASE. 
          UH, WE DO INCLUDE, UH, INCREASES ON SOLID WASTE AND WATER, UH, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS FOR THAT. 
          UH, IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND, UH, WE DO INCREASE ANTICIPATE REVENUES IN JUST MORE THAN 8.7 MILLION. 
          UH, THAT INCLUDES AN 11% ON AVERAGE RATE INCREASE. 
          UH, THE NET, THE CITY WILL NET ABOUT 7% OF THAT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT CONTRACT WITH VWA. 
          UM, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH VWA AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE BUY. 
          UH, IT'S DECREASED THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT WHEN WE GET INTO FUND OH TWO. 
          UH, THE RATES INCREASED, UH, IF THE CITY, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP INCREASING RATES IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ISSUE DEBT AND TAKE ON ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A 4% CALL FOR STAFF. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE 
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A REDUCTION IN FORCE IN, UH, IN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS DOWN IN FLEET. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PER, THAT SHOULD SAY MORE PERSONNEL, BUT WE'VE GOT THE MID-LOW, MID-YEAR, UH, BUDGET ALLOWING, UH, WE WOULD ADD, UH, POSITIONS IN CODE BUILDING SERVICES AND ALSO PARKS. 
          SO, UH, YESTERDAY, ANGEL, UH, BEING THE BEARER OF GREAT NEWS BROUGHT TO US, UH, WE WERE ANTICIPATING, AND THIS BUDGET COUNTS ON A 30% INCREASE TO HEALTH INSURANCE COST. 
          WE GOT OUR RERATE NUMBER AND, UH, 'CAUSE OF OUR LOSS RATIO THIS YEAR, UH, WE, THEY WANT TO BUMP US 43%. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN GOING OUT TO MARKET. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE WHAT WE THINK IS A LONG TERM OR MAYBE A SHORT TERM SOLUTION, UH, THAT WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD. 
          UH, WE'VE MET ON THURSDAY. 
          THURSDAY, THIS WEEK'S BEEN BLUR, UH, WITH, UH, NEXT LEVEL HEALTHCARE. 
          THEY HAVE A PRODUCT THAT THEY CALL PRIME SOLUTION. 
          AND BASICALLY, UH, IT IS A MEMBERSHIP, WELL, IT'S A MEMBERSHIP, BUT IT IS, IT'S LIKE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE CLUB MEMBERSHIP TO NEXT LEVEL THAT WOULD PROVIDE PRIMARY, ACUTE AND URGENT CARE, UH, SERVICES TO ALL OF OUR STAFF. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD ALL STAFF, NOT JUST THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY INSURED. 
          UH, IT'S A $60 PER MEMBER PER MONTH FEE. 
          SO THE AVERAGE COST TO US WOULD BE ABOUT $7,300 A MONTH, UH, OR ABOUT $88,000 A YEAR. 
          UH, THE BEAUTY OF THIS PLAN IS, IS YOU ARE AVAIL, AVAIL ABLE, I KNOW WORDS, THREE OR FOUR OF 'EM, . 
          UH, YOU'RE ABLE TO AVAIL YOURSELF IN THOSE SERVICES ANYTIME THAT NEXT LEVEL'S OPEN. 
          AND ALSO VIRTUALLY, UH, SO FROM 9:00 AM TO 9:00 PM IF YOU NEED URGENT CARE, IF YOU'RE SICK, IF YOU NEED VACCINATION, IF YOU NEED BLOOD TESTING AND THE BLOOD DRAWS, WERE A HUGE SELLING POINT TO BE, UH, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND IT IS ZERO CHARGE AND ZERO COPAY REGARDLESS. 
          SO, AND IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST YOUR INSURANCE AND IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST YOUR INSURANCE OR YOUR DEDUCTIBLE. 
          SO WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF WHO ARE HESITANT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE COPAY OR THEY'RE AFRAID OF WHAT THEY MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COST MIGHT COME BACK AS. 
          THIS IS A ONE TIME MONTHLY PAYMENT AND YOU GO AS OFTEN AS YOU NEED TO OR SELL THEM AS YOU NEED TO AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT PAYING A PENNY. 
          AND SO THE IDEA, YES, THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY REACTION TO YOU. 
          WHAT COUNCILMAN MOVE ON. 
          I KNOW YOU TOLD ME OF THAT THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT, AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T THINK I HEARD HIM WRONG, BUT I JUST HEARD YOU AGAIN. 
          SO YOU HEARD DIRECT. 
          YES. 
          UH, SO, UH, THEY ARE, UH, THEY CURRENTLY, LAKE JACKSON HAS SIGNED UP FOR THE SERVICE BEGINNING IN OCTOBER. 
          UH, DANBURY IS ON BOARD WITH THIS. 
          BISD IS ON BOARD WITH THIS, THE CITY OF, UH, DEER PARK. 
          I HAD TO CALL THE CITY MANAGER OVER THERE JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THIS WAS REAL. 
          AND IT IS, UM, THEY'RE IN THEIR FIRST YEAR. 
          BUT OUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS, IS IF WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER THIS AS A BENEFIT TO OUR STAFF AND OUR, AND NOT JUST OUR FULL-TIME STAFF, BUT OUR PART-TIME STAFF, BUT WE COULD EVEN OPEN UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AND ELECT OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          UH, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THIS WOULD DRAW DOWN OUR LOSS RATIO LONG TERM AND HOPEFULLY GET US BETTER POSITION, UH, IN COMING YEARS WHEN WE GO OUT THE MARKET OR WE RENEW OUR HEALTH PLANS. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR THAT. 
          I HAVE A LOTTED MONEY OUT OF CONTINGENCY IN THIS PROJECT. 
          IT'S NOT REFLECTED AS AN INDEPENDENT LINE ITEM AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'LL BREAK IT OUT. 
          UH, BUT WE THINK IT'S AN AMAZING BENEFIT. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, LONG TERM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT BY THE CITY, UH, TO PUT US IN A POSITION TO HELP LOWER THOSE HEALTHCARE COSTS AND ALSO PROVIDE CARE TO THOSE OF US WHO MAY NOT BE ON OUR INSURANCE YET. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR. 
          YOU SAID IT WAS 60 A MONTH, 60 A MONTH, AND THAT'S, THE EMPLOYEE DOESN'T PLAY ANYTHING. 
          Y'ALL COVER THAT FOR THE EMPLOYEE. 
          WE COVER THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          AND, AND, AND THE EMPLOYEE GOES OFF AND THEY WANT TO ZERO OUT OF POCKET. 
          WHERE WAS THAT? NEXT LEVEL? NEXT LEVEL. 
          NEXT LEVEL, YEAH. 
          CRIME. 
          WHERE IS THAT? HERE LOCALLY BY, I'M SORRY SIR. 
          IS THERE ONE HERE? THERE'S A, THERE'S ONE LIKE JACKSON AND, UH, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THEIR FACILITY THOUGH. 
          YOU HAVE TO GO TO THEIR FACILITY OR YOU CAN DO IT VIRTUALLY. 
          UH, THEY'RE AVAILABLE 24 7. 
          THEY HAVE A, WAS IT A NURSE PRACTITIONER? A PA THAT WHEN YOU CALL, YOU WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOMEBODY VIRTUALLY IF YOU, IF YOU NEED TO DO IT REMOTE, IF YOU NEED TO GO IN, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO NINE TO NINE. 
          IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT HEAVY WAIT TIMES, YOU CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AND SET LOCK OFF TIME TO SHOW UP, UH, AND GO STRAIGHT IN. 
          UM, AND LIKE I SAID, ALL THE SERVICES, WHETHER YOU'RE GETTING THE X-RAY, BLOOD WORK, VACCINES, WHATEVER IT IS, THERE'S NO COST OUT OF POCKET TO THE EMPLOYEE ONCE THEY HAVE THAT MEMBERSHIP. 
          WOW. 
          THAT'S CRAZY. 
          AND THIS IS, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD? NO, NO, THIS, OH, ADDITION CA, WE'RE STILL REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN HEALTH INSURANCE ON OUR EMPLOYERS IF THEY'RE FULLTIME ON OUR EMPLOYEES, IF THEY'RE FULLTIME. 
          UH, SO THIS WOULD BASICALLY BE AN AUGMENTATION, BUT IT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS THAT HEALTH INSURANCE AND IT DOESN'T COME WITH THE SAME PARAMETERS. 
          UH, WE HAD, UH, ANGELS HAD SOME FUN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BROKER ABOUT 
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THIS. 
          UH, 'CAUSE THEY WERE A LITTLE CONCERNED FIRST, BUT WE DON'T SEE THIS AS A REPLACEMENT, BUT AN AUGMENTATION. 
          OH, SO YOU USE THIS INSTEAD OF THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD. 
          BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD DOESN'T KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND WE LOOK BETTER ON PAPER. 
          CORRECT? YES MA'AM. 
          YEAH. 
           ONE OF THE BENEFITS TOO IS LIKE IF YOU SAY YOU GO TO DISNEY WORLD, TAKE YOUR FAMILY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU SIGN TRAVEL FROM THERE, THEY CAN CALL YOU IN A PRESCRIPTION TO THE LO LOCAL PHARMACY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO  THERE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THE, THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD THAT WE OFFER RIGHT NOW DOESN'T OFFER THAT. 
          THEY DON'T OFFER VIRTUAL SERVICES. 
          THEY, THEY OFFER VIRTUAL SERVICES, BUT AGAIN, IN ACCOUNT AGAINST YOUR LOSS RATIO. 
          SO, UM, YOU PAY A COPAY TOWARDS IT. 
          UM, SO SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES WOW. 
          UH, MAY BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY A COPAY AT THAT TIME. 
          SO THEY AVOID GOING OR CALLING. 
          THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM THE FLEXIBILITY AND FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT THEY NEED TO AND HOPEFULLY NIP SOMETHING AND THE PUBLIC BEFORE BECOMES TOO SERIOUS. 
          AND, HOLD ON. 
          I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT. 
          SURE. 
          IT'S LIKE TOO GOOD TO BELIEVE . 
          YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I SAID AT FIRST. 
          I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE TALKED WITH, LIKE I SAID, OTHER CITIES AND THEY'VE HAD GREAT EXPERIENCES WITH IT SO FAR. 
          AND, UH, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL, THE LOCAL CONTACT ACTUALLY LIVES IN RICHWOOD. 
          UH, THEY HAVE A, AN ACCOUNT MANAGER THAT WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO US, UH, THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          AND NOW I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT A FULL-TIME HOSPITAL. 
          UH, THEY DO HAVE A REFERRAL SYSTEM, SO IF YOU HAVE A CHRONIC CONDITION, THEY CAN HELP MANAGE IT. 
          BUT THEY, YOU WOULD STILL PROBABLY HAVE TO SEE A SPECIALIST IF YOU, IF YOU NEEDED THAT. 
          SO. 
          INTERESTING. 
          WHAT IS, I I JUST KIND OF, I MEAN, BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD WOULDN'T, OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD FIGURE IT OUT. 
          I MEAN, THEY KNOW SOONER OR LATER. 
          AND WHAT ABOUT THE REPERCUSSIONS? I MEAN, I GUESS THEY COULD SAY, WELL, I THINK, UH, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THE BLUE BOX, BLUE SHIELD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A NON-PROFIT, THEY LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          THEY'RE CUTTING THEIR OWN ARM OFF. 
          YEAH, WELL THEY'RE CUTTING THEIR OWN ARM OFF, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE ALSO SAVING MONEY AND COLLECTING CASH FROM US FOR COLLECTING CASH FROM US TO OPERATE THEIR SYSTEM. 
          AND WE'RE NOT DRAWING NECESSARILY DRAWN FROM THAT SYSTEM. 
          SO I THINK THEY AT SOME POINT WOULD PROBABLY SAY, THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY GREAT FOR US 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL MAKING HAY AND NOT HAVING TO FAIL. 
          SO USUALLY IT'S NOT GONNA COUNT AGAINST YOU. 
          HEY, THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY IT. 
          THEY DON'T, IT'S KIND LIKE SOMEBODY THAT, IT'S A WIN-WIN. 
          THE INSURANCE DOESN'T KNOW YOU'RE A BAD DRIVER UNTIL YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT. 
          AND THEN , THEY DON'T CARE. 
          YOU'RE A BAD DRIVER UNTIL YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT. 
           JUST ME HAS BEEN, THEY HAD FOR FIVE YEARS, SO I'M SURE BLUE CROSS NOW KNOWS THAT THIS EXISTS. 
          AND, UM, IT'S PROBABLY ON BOARD WITH IT TOO. 
          THE OTHER, UH, BENEFIT IS IT'S NOT JUST THE EMPLOYEE OR THE MEMBER THAT'S COVERED. 
          IT IS THEIR DEPENDENT AND SPOUSE. 
          SO IF, OH, WOW. 
          YEAH, FOR THAT TOTAL, FOR THAT $60, SAME PRICE. 
          SO ONE MEMBERSHIP COVERS AN ENTIRE FAMILY, AND SO IF THEY NEED TO GO GET HELP, YOU GET A SICK KIDDO, YOU CAN TAKE HIM STRAIGHT UP THERE AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S COOL. 
          REALLY? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          I RECENTLY TOOK MY DAUGHTER THERE TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND IT WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS GOOD SERVICE. 
          THEY, THEY TOOK CARE OF US PRETTY QUICK. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'VE, UH, ME, THEY, THEY, THIS IS GONNA REVOLUTIONIZE THEIR HEALTHCARE IF THEY CAN MAKE THIS MODEL WORK LONG TERM. 
          UM, YEAH, MY COPAY WAS 50 BUCKS. 
          SO IF YOU'RE PAYING 60 A MONTH, SO WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET FROM A CAPITAL, UH, EXPENDITURE? ONE TIME COST. 
          WE DO HAVE THREE NEW PATROL VEHICLES IN PD. 
          WE REALLY ACTUALLY PROBABLY NEED A FEW MORE, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THE PRESSURE OFF FIVE, SIX DITCH MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT. 
          UH, WE ARE CONTINUING OUR TRANSITION TO IN CODE 10, UM, AND MOVING INTO THE CLOUD. 
          UH, I KNOW, UH, IT'S A LITTLE SLOW TO LAUNCH, BUT IT IS SO MUCH BETTER NOW THAT WE CAN ACCESS IT, UH, NINE IN THE CLOUD AND THEN IT'S GONNA GET EVEN BETTER ONCE WE GET TO 10. 
          SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM. 
          IT'S OUR, OKAY, SO WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR. 
          WE'RE NOT DOING CLEAR GOV. 
          IT'S NO, NO, NO. 
          THAT'S THE, THIS IS, WE MOVED A WHOLE OTHER MESS. 
          . 
          THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE THE ACTUAL, SO CLEAR GOV IS WHAT WE DO OUR BUDGET IN, AND THAT THAT DATA GETS TRANSLATED INTO ENCODE AND ENCODE IS HOW WE MANAGE ALL OF OUR TRANSACTIONS. 
          SO WHEN YOU PAY INCODE DOES THE UTILITY BILLING, THEY DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 
          COURT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE, OUR BASE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM IS THE BEST WAY TO, OKAY. 
          UM, AND WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS TRANSITION AND UPGRADE. 
          UH, WE HAVE NEW RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND PARKS, AND THEN WE HAVE THE CIP PROJECTS AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE BOEING THE, UH, BOEING SCHEDULE. 
          SO, BIG PICTURE, THIS IS WHAT, UH, THIS IS WHAT THE 
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FUND GENERAL FUND LOOKS LIKE. 
          UH, WE BEGAN THE YEAR WITH A $4.72 MILLION REP UNRESTRICTED RESERVE, UH, WE BUDGETED. 
          AND THE YEAR TO DATE ACTION FUNDS, WHEN WE TRANSLATED THIS OVER FROM, UH, CLEAR GO, WERE A LITTLE WONKY. 
          SO WE JUST WENT WITH IN THIS, IN WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE TODAY, WHAT WAS BUDGETED, WHAT'S PROPOSED, UH, VERSION ONE AND VERSION TWO. 
          AND I'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH. 
          UH, SO YOU CAN SEE WE STILL END THE YEAR, UH, IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT NOT GREAT SHAPE. 
          UH, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, UH, WHEN WE SAT DOWN TO TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, THAT BOTTOM NUMBER IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN WAS $2.7 MILLION. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, CREDIT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR THINKING LEANN AND BEING INNOVATIVE. 
          UH, WE REALLY HAVE DRIVEN HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NUMBER DOESN'T GET BIG. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF WE GET THE PAYMENT REIMBURSEMENT, OBVIOUSLY MUCH MORE, MUCH BETTER POSITION. 
          SO, UH, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT WELL, WE KNOW IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          WE JUST DON'T MOVE IN, UH, IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND HIGHLIGHTS HERE. 
          AGAIN, UH, 8.7 IN REVENUE, A SIGNIFICANT DRAW OF RESERVE TO COVER SOME OF THE LARGER CIP PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ONLINE. 
          UM, AND WE'LL GET INTO THOSE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          HOT FUND ACTUALLY LOOKS BETTER THIS YEAR THAN IT HAS IN MANY YEARS. 
          UH, NOT BECAUSE OF AN UPTICK IN REVENUE. 
          WE DO TO SPEND ABOUT $400,000. 
          SO A SLIGHT UP THERE. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO DRASTICALLY CUT BACK OUR SPENDING OVER THERE. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN MORE OUR, AGAIN, WORDS, UH, MORE AUSTERE, UH, IN THAT BUDGET. 
          SO WE, UH, SEE OURSELVES RETURNING TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO REPLENISH SOME OF THE FUND BALANCE WE'VE BEEN DRAWING DOWN THESE PAST FOUR YEARS. 
          UH, SDS OUR FUND OH FIVE, THIS IS WHERE, UH, NO PUN TENDON, THE RUBBER BEATS THE ROAD IN TERMS OF CIP. 
          UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE, UH, WE HAVE A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE, UH, PLAN BASED AROUND ON THE CIP IN YEAR ONE. 
          UH, AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DRAW DOWN THERE. 
          NEXT STEP, EDC AND AGAIN, UH, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE AS WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST. 
          UH, ONE THING WE FOUND WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, IN 2022 WHEN WE PAID OFF THE MORTGAGE AT KROGER, UH, WE NEVER AFFECTED THAT TRANSFER. 
          SO THAT TRANSFER'S COMING OUT, INCLUDING IN THIS FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S THE BIG, BIG EXPENDITURE THAT YOU SEE ON THE, ON THE, THE BIG BRANCH. 
          YOU SEE BETWEEN THE TWO FUNDS. 
          WE GO FROM A PROJECTED $1.4 MILLION BUDGET LAST YEAR TO A $3 MILLION BUDGET THIS YEAR. 
          BUT THAT'S TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT $1.2 MILLION TRANSFER BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR, FOR RIGHT NOW, THE MORTGAGE. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS THE FINAL YEAR OF OUR FIRST CIP. 
          THE 2019 COMES TO AN END. 
          THIS, THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE'VE GOT SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES THAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR CIP WORKSHOP. 
          UH, WE HAVE MORE THAN 50 COMBINED MILES OF SEWER LINES, LER EXPECTED LIFE PLANS, AND THEN WE ALSO NEED STREET DRAINAGE, UH, SIDEWALK STREET STREETLIGHTS, YOU NAME IT, WE NEED IT. 
          UH, AND SO, UH, AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, BUT WE DIVIDED THE CITY INTO 12 BASICALLY, UH, CIP SECTIONS. 
          UH, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE, WHERE WE, UH, TRY TO BREAK DOWN THE COST TO MAKE 'EM MAKE THE ELEPHANT A LITTLE BIT MORE EATABLE. 
          AND SO, UH, MOVING FORWARD, OUR GOAL IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT GETTING STANDARDIZED STREETS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE KIND OF ENVISION FOR IT. 
          YOU HAVE A, UH, SIDEWALK PROFILE ON ONE SIDE, 25 FOOT STANDARD PAVING WIDTH, UH, WITH ASPHALT HERB GUTTER, AND THEN MOVING THE BARGES UNDERGROUND. 
          THIS IS OUR SCHEDULE FOR THIS YEAR. 
          JOHN, YOU WANNA COME UP? SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COMING OUT OF CIP WORKSHOP, UH, THIS IS OUR YEAR ONE SCHEDULE. 
          ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, WE WOULD RECONDITION AND REDO ALL OLD TON ROAD FROM WHERE THE CONCRETE PAVING ENDS, JUST SOUTH OF BUCKY'S ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MAINE. 
          WE ANTICIPATE THAT COST, UH, GOING TO A 35 FOOT PAVING PROFILE BY, BY DREAM. 
          MY GOAL ONE DAY, MAYBE IF UP EVER DECIDES TO PLAY BALL WITH US, WOULD BE TO GO TO A 42 FOOT PAVING PROFILE WITH A BOULEVARD SECTION, UH, AND ENCLOSED DRAINAGE. 
          UH, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA LET US DO THAT ANY TIME. 
          SO WE'RE SETTLING AT A 35 FOOT WIDTH, WHICH WOULD MATCH UP WITH THE CONCRETE SECTION AS YOU THINK ABOUT COMING UP TO THE INTERSECTION WITH COLLEGE PARK. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE A STANDARDIZED WIDTH ALL THE WAY DOWN CONCRETE, UH, CURB, UH, NO GO. 
          AND WE'D HAVE RAIN SLITS, BUT WE WOULD NOT HAVE FULL GUTTER. 
          UH, NOR WOULD WE HAVE SIDEWALK. 
          WE REMOVE THAT FROM THIS PROJECT. 
          BUT THAT'S A $1.5 MILLION EXPENSE. 
          UH, WE ALSO INCLUDE, UH, 900,000 FOR THE, UH, ENHANCEMENTS TO COW ROAD WEST, LEADING BACK TO 2 88 B. 
          UH, THAT WILL TAKE THE ROAD TO A 28 FOOT STANDARD PAVING WIDTH WITH CONCRETE, UH, CURB AND GUTTER, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE. 
          NEXT STEP, WE HAVE OUR GLO HAS PROJECTS, UH, WHICH INCLUDE THE FLAG LAKE AND, AND MONEY DRAINAGE 
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SYSTEMS, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, BASICALLY A RECONFIGURATION OF FLAG LAKE DRIVE. 
          GS HAD A LITTLE BIT OF UPSET AT THIS. 
          UM, BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THINGS WORK AND NOT HAVE TO MOVE, UH, A NATURAL GAS PIPELINE, A CENTER POINT PIPELINE, A CITY OF LAKE JACKSON WATERLINE, AND A, WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING IN THAT DITCH? DO YOU REMEMBER? I JUST KNOW THE GAS LINES AND THEIR WATER LINE. 
          YEAH, THERE'S A GAS LINE WATER LINE, I WANNA SAY THERE'S TWO FIBER OPTIC CABLES THAT RUN THROUGH THERE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WOULD RUN UPSET THE TURTLES. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BOX CULVERT, UH, UNDERNEATH ONE SIDE OF THE FLAG LAKE AND CARRY THAT DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT NOW RUNS UNDERNEATH. 
          IF YOU THINK ABOUT FROM THE OLD HEB SITE, UH, IN LAKE JACKSON, IT WOULD RUN UNDERNEATH THE STREET ON ONE SIDE, ALL THE WAY DOWN, AND THEN CHANNEL BACK INTO, UH, OUR OUTSIDE DITCH. 
          SO ONE SIDE WILL LOOK LIKE A STREET WITH JUST A STREET, THAT'S ALL YOU SEE. 
          THE OTHER SIDE WILL STILL HAVE A VERY DEEP DITCH ON A ONE ONE SLOPE CONCRETE SCALE, UM, ON OUR SIDE OF THE LINE. 
          AND THEN ALL THAT WOULD FLOW TOGETHER INTO THE DOW, UH, DOW. 
          NOW, SO I HAD A QUESTION. 
          YOU HAD POSTED SOMETHING ON FACEBOOK ABOUT THE CIP, NOT INCLUDING THE DITCH THAT'S ON THE, ON DIXIE DRIVE. 
          I DIDN'T UNDER IS IT'S THE DITCH THAT RUNS DIXIE DRIVE FROM LIKE KROGER TO ANOTHER POINT. 
          CORRECT. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS LAKE JACKSON'S. 
          UH, WELL, PART OF THEIRS AND PART OF IT IS OURS. 
          UM, OKAY, WE FIRST SAT DOWN BACK IN 2016. 
          WHEN DID WE DO THE JOINT DRAINAGE STUDY? WAS THAT 20 16 7? WHEN DID WE DO WHAT THE, THE JOINT DRAINAGE STUDY WITH LAKE JACKSON, BECAUSE I COULDN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT WE WERE GONNA BE THERE. 
          NO, IT'S SENSE THEN THAT'S WHY I CAME ON BOARD ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DID A JOINT DRAINAGE STUDY WITH THEM, AND THE IDEA WHEN WE WERE GOING AFTER THIS GLO HAS SPENT MONEY WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA WORK TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UH, WE WERE GONNA DESIGNATE WHICH SECTIONS OF THE DITCHES WERE OURS. 
          AND, UM, LIKE JACKSON, THAT'S ALL. 
          I'LL SAY . 
          SO, UH, WE ENDED UP TAKING A LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT. 
          WE WERE ALLOTTED $11 MILLION, UH, AND GLO FUNDING TO REDO THE DRAINAGE IN THESE THREE SPOTS. 
          DITCH A, THE FLAG LAKE AND PEN RUNNING. 
          UH, AND BY THE TIME THE ENGINEERS GOT DONE, BECAUSE WE WERE MADE THAT AWARD IN 20 21, 20 22 MM-HMM . 
          AND IN SUBSEQUENTLY YEARS, UH, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF INFLATION, JUST, JUST A TOUCH. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, WORKING FORCE OR FREEZING OLS WHO ARE USED TO DOING BUSINESS IN, UH, IN HARRIS COUNTY, WHERE COSTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO WHEN THEY CAME BACK WITH THE NUMBERS, WE BASICALLY HAD TO SAY, A, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GONNA TIE INTO OUR SEGMENT ON DIG, BECAUSE LAKE JACKSON IS FOCUSING THEIR MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND B, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY INTERNALLY TO FUND THAT. 
          SO WE RESIZE THE PROJECT EXCI, THAT SEGMENT OF DJ AND ARE FOCUSING ON THESE TWO SYSTEMS, UH, FLAG LAKE AND PENN MONEY. 
          SO I, WHAT WE GOING TO, WHAT WERE GONNA DO, WE WERE GONNA BASICALLY, ESSENTIALLY JUST DRED THE DISH AND, AND CREATE SOME INLIGHT DETENTION TO SLOW THE WATER AS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO GET TO DITCH, UH, TO OYSTER GREEN. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO ADDITIONAL CAPACITY WATER. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE YEAH. 
          WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          AND THE ONES THAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON FLAG LAKE, THOSE ARE GONNA BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR END. 
          WELL, THEY'RE MORE BENEFICIAL TO THEIR SIDE, UH, BUT THEY DO HELP OUR SIDE BECAUSE IT HELPS SLOW THE WATER COMING THROUGH. 
          UH, BECAUSE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT YOU END UP WITH A LAKE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PLANTATION, AND THEN THAT COMES THROUGH ON OUR SIDE. 
          OUR DITCH NEEDS TO BE REDONE ANYWAY. 
          IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT A, AN INLINE TO TOPOGRAPHIC, YOU KNOW, A DITCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE PRETTY FLAT AT AN ANGLE, SOMEWHAT OF A SLOPE. 
          AND OURS LOOKS LIKE THE HIMALAYAS. 
          SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO, UH, GET IT FLAT, GET IT SLOPED, AND GET IT MOVING. 
          SO WE SEE SOME BENEFIT TO IT. 
          LIKE JACKSON SEES THE MAJORITY OF THE BENEFIT ON THE FLAT LAKE SIDE. 
          THE PENN MONEY SIDE, HOWEVER, IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BENEFIT TO US. 
          UH, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN ALONG PLANTATION, YOU NOTICE WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE DIP, UH, AND THEN YOU SEE THE DITCHES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE A HEAVY RAIN, THEY'RE UP TO THE BANKS. 
          THIS WILL, UH, ENHANCE THE FLOW. 
          UH, IF WE EVER GET AWARDED OUR MID MOD UH, FUNDING, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN, UH, ACTUALLY GO THROUGH, UM, GO THROUGH THE, UH, GO THROUGH THAT AREA BEHIND PENN MONEY LANE AND TURN THAT INTO INLINE DETENTION, WHICH WOULD FURTHER SLOW THE WATER, REDUCING THE STRESS FURTHER DOWNSTREAM, AND ALSO ALLOW US TO MAKE IT ALMOST MAYBE IN A MINUTE. 
          UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR GOAL. 
          YOU COULD REMIND THEM THAT THAT MIGHT BE WORTH A COVER CUT. 
          YES. 
          MIGHT BE WORTH A WHAT? A CURB CUT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, 
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I MEAN, IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING WITH US, THEN WHY, WHY SHOULD WE FIX THAT? IF WE'RE GONNA SEE MINIMAL IMPROVEMENT ON OUR END, WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED WITH THE STATE TO DO SO. 
          UM, IT'S IN PER PENNY AND PER POUND. 
          IF WE WERE TO TURN BACK AND SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS PORTION OF THE PROJECT, UH, GLO IS LOOKING FOR A REASON TO KILL IT. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF A POISON PILL. 
          WE CAN EITHER TAKE THE MONEY AND DO THE PROJECT OR WE CAN TELL 'EM WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT SIDE OF THE LINE AND LOSE EVERYTHING. 
          BUT IT'S GONNA HELP ALL THE WATER FLOW AWAY FROM ALL OF CORRECT. 
          IT'S GONNA HELP ALL WATER FLOW FROM EVERYTHING. 
          UH, BASICALLY WITH THIS PROJECT, AFTER WE DID THE TEMPLE DITCH PROJECT IN 2018 TO 2020, EVERYTHING WEST NOW OF MAINE IS TAKEN CARE OF. 
          EVERYTHING EAST HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED SINCE THE FIFTIES. 
          AND SO WE'VE INCLUDED IN OUR, UH, SDDS FUND IS A, IS A STUDY ON THAT SIDE OF THE LINE BECAUSE WE NEED TO QUITE FRANKLY, FIGURE OUT THE DRAINAGE IN OLD LAKE BARBARA. 
          WELL, ANYTHING EAST OF REALLY SO WELL I SIZE WORK WITH THEM. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO THOSE PROJECTS, WE HAVE, UH, TWO PART PROJECTS. 
          WE'RE PRESENTING AN INVESTMENT OF $350,000, UH, REMEDIATION TO THE BUILDING HERE AT CITY HALL AND THE INSTALLATION OF AN 80 DA COMPLIANT FRONT DOOR, UH, BRINGING THAT TOTAL FOR OUR FACILITIES TO $150,000 AND THEN $150,000 ON SHANKS LAKE. 
          UH, THAT'S THE BORING SLIDE. 
          WE'LL GET TO THE, THE JUICY STUFF THAT ALMOST CRASHED MY COMPUTER. 
          OH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE OLD ANGLETON, THE 1.5 OR IS THAT YOU USING CONCRETE, OR IS THAT YOU USING THAT IS CONCRETE ON OLD ANGLETON. 
          ASPHALT ON HOLLOW. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE COULD DO CONCRETE. 
          UM, IT BRINGS THAT PRICE BACK UP. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO NOT SHOOT OUR RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO WRITE DOWN TWO TWO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          NO, JUST ON OLDING. 
          I MEAN, THAT ROAD'S USED SO MUCH THAT YES, IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE CONCRETE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WOULD BE A, A THICKEN BASE WITH THICKEN CONCRETE PAD SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROAD LASTS. 
          YEAH. 
          50 TO 70 YEARS IF WE CAN MAKE IT COOL. 
          UH, AGAIN, THAT INCLUDES THE STUFF HERE AT, UH, CITY HALL THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, LINE ITEM FUND 1 0 1. 
          UH, EDC WOULD FUND THE CLEARING AND IMPROVEMENTS AT SHANKS LAKE. 
          WE HAVE THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS AT, UH, WILSON BROUGHT US, UH, MILSTEAD PARKS COMING UP, UH, THAT COME TO ABOUT 350002.5 ROAD, UH, THERE ALONG ON TON AND BACK UP COLORADO WEST, WE HAVE THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, ONCE WE GET THE DRAINAGE IMPROVED ON PLANTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE PIT MONEY SYSTEM, WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND CONNECT. 
          WHERE, IF YOU LOOK OUR, OUR SIDEWALK CURRENTLY DEAD ENDS JUST BEFORE TO JACK IN THE BOX ENTRANCE. 
          WE WOULD CARRY THAT AROUND ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR THE OTHER, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO IN TERMS OF THOSE DITCHES. 
          UM, AND SO ONCE THE WORK'S COMPLETE ON THAT, WE WOULD CARRY THE SIDEWALK GROUND AND INTERCONNECT WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT'S EXISTING ON PLANTATION THAT CURRENTLY ENDS JUST PAST TENDER YEARS. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, OR ENTERPRISE FUND, CIP, UH, WE'VE GOT THE $1.1 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR THE BUMPY ROAD LIFT STATION. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE BUMPY ROAD, UH, DORSETT, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FORCE MAIN. 
          WE HAVE THE ERMAN SUBDIVISION, BRIAN SUBDIVISION, UH, AND THEN I INCLUDED HALF OF WHAT WE THINK THE A MI SYSTEM IS GONNA COST. 
          UH, IF WE DO THAT, TO DO THAT, WE WOULD DRAW DOWN THE FUND 1 0 5, WHICH IS THE, UH, UH, ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          I, MAN, I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH WORDS THIS MONTH. 
          ENTERPRISE FUND, UH, CONSTRUCTION FUND, UH, AND THEN ALSO $1.6 MILLION IN OPERATING REVENUE OUT OF THE, UH, ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          AND SO WE HAVE, UH, THE SUMER IMPROVEMENTS THERE, BUMPY ROAD, UH, ALSO AT EMERALD. 
          AND, UH, YOU GUYS CAN'T SEE MY CURSOR, BUT, UH, FURTHER NORTH THERE. 
          THAT'S THE YELLOW SPOT IS THE EMERALD SUBDIVISION AND BRYAN SUBDIVISION SYSTEM, UH, AS WELL AS THOSE LINES THAT SERVICE POPPY ROAD LIFT STATION. 
          SO WE WOULD ENLARGE THAT SYSTEM, UH, AND BRING IN MORE CAPACITY. 
          AS DISCUSSED AT OUR CIP WORKSHOP, THAT'S 60, 65% OF THE TOTAL WASTEWATER THAT THE CITY SEES GOES THROUGH THAT LIFT STATION. 
          SO IT'S A UTMOST IMPORT THAT WE GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE THE A MI WATER SYSTEM, UH, IMPROVEMENT FOR THE METERS. 
          UH, AND AS I SAID, WE PUT ABOUT HALF OF THAT IN THERE WITH THAT WE'LL LAUNCH INTO PUBLIC WORKS AND WITH THE A MI SYSTEM. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          DO WE, WE HAD, IT SHOWED THAT WE HAD $1.5 MILLION READY FOR THAT ONE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          DO WE TELL HIM,  THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE TO US, THIS IS OUR BUDGET SO WE DON'T COME BACK WITH A $50 MILLION ? WELL, YES. 
          THAT, 
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NO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHAT WE FIRST DO IS DO THE AUDIT TO SEE IF THERE'S MAYBE TWEAKS WE COULD MAKE TO OUR EXISTING SYSTEM BEFORE WE ACTUALLY INVEST THAT 1.5. 
          UH, MY THOUGHT IS, IS A, KNOWING HOW PROJECTS WORK AND HOW FUNDING WORKS, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT IN THE FIRST YEAR. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A TWO YEAR PART. 
          THAT'S WHY I'VE SPLIT THAT COST OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND B, I DON'T WANT TO EVER TELL AN ENGINEER A BUDGET BECAUSE THEY'LL NEED IT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT MAY COME BACK THAT THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN GET THIS DONE. 
          YOU, YOU NEED THIS TWEAK AND THIS, AND THIS TWEAK TO YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM AND COST US A LOT LESS MONEY. 
          SO, UH, ON THE SDS, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FUND BALANCE. 
          UH, WE BEGAN THE YEAR WITH ABOUT 9.1. 
          UH, WE ARE NOT GONNA MEET OUR EXPENDITURE GOALS IN THE CURRENT BUDGET. 
          UH, SO THAT NUMBER WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, UH, WE ANTICIPATE REVENUES OF ABOUT 8.8 MILLION. 
          UH, THAT DOES INCLUDE THE GRANT PAYMENT FOR THE GLO TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE $13 MILLION IN PROJECTS LINED OUT, AND WE'LL KIND OF GET TO THOSE IN JUST A SECOND. 
          REVENUE WISE, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, THIS YEAR, AS I SAID, WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN SALES TAX, BUT WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT $990,000 IN REVENUE. 
          UH, OUR INTEREST HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY VERY, VERY HANDSOME. 
          UH, AND THEN WE DO ANTICIPATE DRAWING DOWN THE REMAINDER OF THE GLO FUNDS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE EXPENDED BY DECEMBER 31ST, 26TH, 26TH. 
          SO WE'VE GOTTA GET THAT PROJECT DONE. 
          UH, I LOVE THAT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE STRUNG OUT THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT PORTION OF THIS FOR FOUR YEARS AND THEN BASICALLY SAID, GET THIS DONE IN 18 MONTHS. 
          SO THEY DRAGGED IT OUT FOUR YEARS TO GIVE US ONE TO DO IT. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND HONESTLY, WE HAD TO FIGHT FOR THAT ONE MAY 20. 
          YES. 
          GOSH. 
          AND WHICH, WHICH ONE WAS THAT AGAIN? THAT'S THE, THE FLAG LAKE AND PENN MONEY SYSTEMS. THAT'S WITH, UH, WHAT'S THE COMPANY? THE, UH, GLO OH, YEAH. 
          UH, JIM LAND OFFICE. 
          THIS IS, UH, IT'S BEEN A ONGOING, I'M IN WRONG PRESENTATION, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. 
          I JUST REALIZED I'VE GOT A TYPO OVER THE TOP. 
          IGNORE THE HEADER. 
          UM, THIS IS WHAT THE EXPENDITURES LOOK LIKE. 
          UH, FOR THE COMING YEAR. 
          WE ANTICIPATE, AGAIN, ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON THE FLAG LAKE PORTION, ABOUT ONE, 1.1 TO 1.3 ON THE, UH, PENN MONEY SIDE, UH, OLD ANGLETON AND KYLE ROADS YOU SEE THERE, UH, FOR ABOUT 2.4. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, SIDEWALK EXPANSION SHOULD SAY PLANTATION TO MAY OR PLANTATION DIXIE TO PLANTATION. 
          BUT APPARENTLY, UH, I WAS HALF SAY BY, ANYWAY, THIS IS THE WRONG IT, IT'S BEEN CORRECTED, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT'S WHERE THAT'S GOING. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS A HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE EIGHT FIVE ONE WATER AND SEWER AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. 
          UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE RATE INCREASES TO HELP BRING DOWN THOSE COSTS. 
          WE DO SEE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, PINCH INTO THE RESERVE FUND IN ORDER TO COVER SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WE NEED TO UNDERTAKE, UH, BUT STILL LEAVES US WITH A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE IN TERMS OF REVENUE. 
          WE'RE PROJECTING, UH, AN 11% AVERAGE BILL INCREASE. 
          UH, WE'LL SEE ABOUT 7% OF THAT RELATED TO OUR CONSUMPTION FROM BWA. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JOHN HAS BEEN IN TALKS, WILL BWA COUNTY WANNA TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO, CONSIDERING THE DROP IN CONSUMPTION. 
          UH, IF YOU RECALL HERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE, UH, OUR CONTRACT ORIGINALLY WAS FOR, TO TAKE 1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          IT'S A PAY OR TAKE CONTRACT. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, WITH THE WATER THAT BWA HAS AVAILABLE TO SUPPLY US, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR CONTRACT FROM 1 MILLION A DAY TO A MINIMUM, OR TO A 1.5 MILLION A DAY WITH THE RESERVE OF 500,000. 
          AND THAT'S MORE OR LESS TO SECURE THAT WATER SO THAT THE COST OF IT WAS GONNA BE MUCH CHEAPER THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE GO TO DE WHEN THEY GO TO DESAL. 
          SO WE WANTED TO SECURE THAT, THAT WATER, UH, SHOULD WE NEED THAT, WE NEED THIS, THE WATER SUPPLY TO BE SECURE. 
          SO, UH, WE INCREASED IT TO 1.5 MILLION, AND THEN THE RESERVE WAS, WE'RE ONLY PAYING, UH, DEBT SERVICE ON IT, WHICH IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WE WOULD PAY FOR THE CONTRACT AMOUNT. 
          UH, HERE AT THE LAST PART OF THE YEAR, BWA WAS EXPERIENCING SOME OUR DEALS. 
          SO WE WERE HAVING TO, UH, USE OUR WELLS MORE AND LESS OF SURFACE WATER. 
          WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS USE EVERY, ALL THE SURFACE WATER WE GET TO MEET OUR CONTRACT. 
          UH, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THOSE WAS THREE TO FOUR MONTHS THAT THEY WERE, UH, REDUCED OUR SUPPLY COMING IN, WE WERE HAVING TO USE WELLS CAUSED UP A DEFICIT BETWEEN WHERE OUR CONTRACTING MATTERS WE'RE AT. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SITTING AROUND 87 MILLION GALLONS UNDER OUR 1.5 MILLION A DAY CONTRACT. 
          I WOULD 
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ALSO THAT WHEN WE DID THAT, UH, WE, IF YOU RECALL, WE RAN WATER TO BASF. 
          UH, THEY'VE BEEN TAKING OUR REPLAN FOR A WHILE, AND THEN WE BROUGHT IN POTABLE. 
          THEIR USAGE WAS THEIR, THEIR USAGE IS DROPPED, UH, ALMOST BY HALF COMPARING YEAR BEFORE LAST TO THIS LAST YEAR. 
          THEY, THEY DROPPED ABOUT 10 MILLION GALLONS OVER THE, UH, COURSE OF A YEAR THAT THEY WERE USING. 
          NOW, WHY, UH, SOMETHING, WE CAN FIND OUT WHY, WHY THEY'RE, WHY THAT'S DROPPED. 
          BECAUSE IT WAS, THEY WERE UP AROUND THE 40 SOMETHING MILLION A YEAR, AND THEY DROPPED DOWN TO ABOUT 20 SOMETHING MILLION THIS PAST YEAR. 
          OH, THAT'S NOT A BAD METER, HUH? IT'S NOT A BAD METER. 
          IT, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE. 
          I DOUBT IT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY NEW, BUT YEAH, YOU WOULD HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. 
          BUT YEAH, THEIR CONSUMPTION HAS GONE WAY DOWN. 
          THE, THE CONSUMPTION OF THE RECLAIM SYSTEM IS BASICALLY THE RECLAIM HAS NOT, THEY HAVEN'T USED ANY OF PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, OR WE AT LEAST WE'RE PAYING CONTACT WHY THEY'RE NOT USING IT. 
          THERE'S JUST NO ANSWER TO WHY THEY'RE NOT USING IT. 
          UH, SO ANYWAY, WE, WE INCREASED THAT CONTRACT 1.5. 
          AND BASED ON THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, OUR AVERAGE IS USUALLY THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE BEEN, WE WE'RE UNDER 5 MILLION GALLONS A MONTH, WHICH IS MORE IN LINE OF WHERE WE SHOULD BE, THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT 87 MILLION GALLON DEFICIT IF, IF WE HAD BEEN USING THEM THE SAME FROM THE START OF OCTOBER LAST YEAR. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS, UH, SINCE WE'RE NOT BEATING THAT 1.5 MILLION, THEY, IF WE DO USE OVER THAT, WE STILL PAY IT. 
          BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WAY UNDER OUR CONTRACT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING THAT 500,000 THAT WE HAVE TO RESERVE AND SELL IT BACK TO 'EM, OR DOLLAR LEVEL, TAKE IT BACK, OR THE OPTIONS ARE, WE FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO TAKE THAT WATER, UH, AND THEY WOULD HAVE A CONTRACT. 
          WE RELEASE THAT, THAT WATER TO WHERE WE DON'T NEED IT, THE WOULD IT WILL SAVE US IS ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR. 
          AND BY DOING THAT, WHAT MY OPINION IS, IS THAT WE COULD TAKE THAT MONEY THERE. 
          WE NEED TO, UH, HAVE ANOTHER, WELL, ANOTHER OTHER WAY. 
          THE TOWER OVER ON THE, UH, NORTH SIDE OF TOWN TO HELP EQUALIZE THE SYSTEM. 
          $400,000 WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS A WELL AND TOWARDS THE COST OF AN ELEVATED TOWER. 
          WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR G GPMS TO ABLE TO MEET THE TCQ REQUIREMENT OF 0.6 GALLONS PER MINUTE, HAVING THE CONTRACT WITH THEM. 
          THAT 500 IS NOT HELPING US IN THAT RESPECT. 
          IN 2013, UH, I WAS ABLE TO GET AN EXCEPTION TO A TCQ, THAT BWA, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR NOW, 1.5 IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, THEY CAN SUPPLY US UP TO 2.5 MILLION. 
          SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ADD WELLS INTO THE SYSTEM TO, WE NEED TO PRODUCE MORE WATER TO, TO MEET THE 0.6. 
          SO THIS IS JUST AN OPTION TO LOOK AT MAYBE TRYING TO SELL THAT EXTRA 500,000 OFF SAVING US THAT, UH, MONEY THERE FROM HAVING TO PAY IT GOING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA NEED THE WATER EVENTUALLY ANYWAY. 
          BUT, UM, IT MAY BE THAT THAT'S NOT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT AT 1.3 TO 1.4 MILLION A DAY IS WHAT WE'RE USING. 
          WELL, YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU USE THE CALCULATION, THE WORKSHEET THAT WE USE TO HELP SET RATES, UH, WE DO THIS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUB-ACCOUNTS. 
          UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A BASE OR PROPOSING A BASE INCREASE OF 7.5% ON THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          THE TIERED LEVELS STAY THE SAME. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WOULD GENERATE THE LITTLE TEENY TINY NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM ARE YOUR, ARE YOUR HOLES AND YOUR DELTAS MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE HOLE WOULD BE THREE POINT JUST OVER $3 MILLION IN ENTERPRISE REVENUE, OF WHICH THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN ON YOUR SCREEN. 
          THE, AGAIN, THE TEENY COUNTY NUMBER ON THE VERY FAR RIGHT. 
          WE WOULD NET 1.2 OFF OF THAT INCREASE BECAUSE OF WHAT WE PAID AT BWA. 
          SO BWA A'S RATE, UH, THIS YEAR WILL GO FROM FOUR 60 TO 4 9 6, UH, NEXT YEAR IT'LL BE AT FIVE 16, CORRECT? THIS 4, 9 6 GOING UP TO 4 9 6. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT NEXT YEAR IT GOES TO FIVE 16, CORRECT. 
          ON THEIR DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S AN EVER INCREASING COST, UH, UNTIL I THINK 2036 WHEN THEIR DEBT SERVICE MODEL STARTS TO FALL OFF. 
          UH, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO RAISE RATES TO STAY IN LINE. 
          BUT THIS ALSO THE ATTEMPTS TO NET US, UH, THAT 11.99% FIGURE YOU SEE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, AT THE ADJUSTED PERCENT INCREASE, UH, LAST YEAR OUR NET WAS FOUR AND A HALF. 
          SO THIS INCREASES THE ACTUAL REVENUE COMING INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN RAISING RATES, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING JUST ENOUGH TO BASICALLY COVER WHAT OUR COST OF WATER IS ON, ON THE BWA SIDE, UH, AND, UH, AND FLOAT THE WATER SYSTEM AND, AND BET ON THE COME FROM SEWER. 
          UM, THERE IS, UH, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE GET INTO SOLID WASTE AS WELL. 
          WE CHARGE OUR INDUSTRIAL, OUR HOTELS, OUR COMMERCIAL SECTORS, ALL THE SAME BASE RATE THAT WE CHARGE OUR RESIDENTIAL 
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CUSTOMERS. 
          AND SO, UH, ONE THING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT DOING IS CHANGING THE RATE SCHEDULE AND LOOKING AT GOING TO DIFFERENT RATES BY USE. 
          THE HOTELS ARE OUR BIGGEST USERS. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT DOESN'T SHOCK ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY AFTER OUR FUN MEETING WITH THE HOTEL SIX. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE MAYBE LOOK AT A TIER GRADE STRUCTURE ACROSS USER TYPE AS WELL. 
          AND SO, UH, WE CAN MODEL THAT IN GOING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE OFFSET SOME OF THE PRESSURE ON SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY. 
          SO AGAIN, HERE ARE THE REVENUES, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UH, CONTRIBUTE TO CAPITAL RESERVES, A 2.5, UM, WITH A TOTAL COMING TO EIGHT, JUST OVER 8.7. 
          UM, WE DO, UH, HAVE THREE SEPARATE FUNDS IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          UH, FUND 23 IS BASICALLY WHERE WE CREDIT AND DEBIT OUR, UH, SENIOR, UH, CREDITS FOR WATER AND SEWER. 
          WE ANTICIPATE A SLIGHT UPTICK THERE, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO AGE AS A COMMUNITY, UH, IN TERMS OF COST AND NONE OF THE NUMBERS KIND OF RUN TOGETHER HERE. 
          UH, THIS IS THE ACTUAL BASE OPERATION COST FOR OPERATING THE WATER AND SERVICE SYSTEM. 
          UH, I WOULD NOTE THAT THE SALARIES ARE ALLOCATED BETWEEN, SO THERE'S A SALARY ALLOCATION THAT FALLS INSIDE. 
          UH, WE HAVE 4 11, 4 25, BUT EMPLOYEES THAT DO CROSS OR PROVIDE SERVICES ACROSS THE BOARD ARE ALLOCATED ACROSS SO THAT BOTH FUNDS PAY INTO EVERYBODY'S COMPENSATION. 
          SO, AND THEN GETTING DOWN TO THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE DO HAVE ANTICIPATE $225,000 IN CAPITAL EXPENDITURE TO BE OFFSET BY THE GEN, THE ENTERPRISE FUND EQUIPMENT, UH, WITH THE PAYBACK OF ABOUT 10% IN, IN THE, OVER THE 10 YEARS OF LIGHT. 
          UH, WE INCLUDED THE, UH, LIGHT TOWER PULL BEHIND AND THEN THREE GENERATORS TO HELP TAKE CARE OF OUR LIFT STATIONS. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO IS DRAG A GENERATOR FROM ONE SPOT TO THE NEXT AND PUMP DOWN, UH, AS YOU WILL CALL DURING BARREL, THE ONE AT DIXIE, UH, BECAME OVERWHELMED. 
          AND SO THIS WILL PUT A GENERATOR AT EACH LIFT STATIONS, AT EACH OF THE DESIGNATED LIST STATION SITES, UH, AND ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO GO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE AUTOMATICALLY BEING PULLED DOWN INSTEAD OF DEFAULTING AND RELYING ON US TO ABLE TO GET OUT HERE AND TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          WHAT'S DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS? HUH? OH, OKAY. 
          WELL, JOHN HAD LIKE A 13 ITEM, UH, LINE ITEM LIST. 
          I COMPRESSED IT. 
          UM, I'LL LET YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO WHAT OUR DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS LOOK LIKE. 
          I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT, I MEAN THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT, YOU'VE GOT TCS, BUT I'M MORE LIKE WHAT A DEFINITION OF WHAT WE MIGHT, SO, UH, NOT SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, GO THIS AMOUNTS SUBSCRIPTION OR WHATEVER. 
          SUBSCRIPTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'VE GOT YOUR TCEQ, YOUR LAB EXP NOT YOUR LAB EXPENSES, BUT YOUR, UH, A PWA, UH, MEMBERSHIPS. 
          YOU'VE GOT, UH, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, OUR GOVERNMENTAL, UH, FEES THAT WE PAY THROUGH THERE. 
          THERE'S OTHER FEES THAT ARE REQUIRED. 
          FEES THAT WE PAID AT TCQ WATER. 
          UH, IS IT WATER USE FEES? YEAH, WE HAVE WATER THAT'S AROUND, I WANT TO SAY THAT'S AROUND 20, $30,000 THAT WE PAY THE TCQ EVERY YEAR. 
          THERE'S A LINE IN THERE FOR IT. 
          I CAN PULL IT UP AND CLEAR. 
          GOOD. 
          IF YOU REALLY WANT ME TO. 
          HUH? NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT IT WAS LIKE. 
          IT'S A GEORGE NUMBER, BUT IT, IT JUST MAKE DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, AN AMAZON PRIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT OUR COUNTRY CLUB OR ANYTHING. 
          THAT IS THE PAY TO PLAY THAT THE STATE REQUIRES OF US. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF DEBT SERVICE, UH, YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT STUFF FALLING OFF, UH, FROM US. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE, UH, IN TERMS OF, OH, I'M NOT IN THE RIGHT SLIDE, AM I, LEMME GO TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU CAN SEE THERE, UH, THAT'S THE CAPITAL WHERE IT IS. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THAT'S METERS AND HYDRANTS. 
          THIS IS THE RUBBER MEETING THE ROAD IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR SEWER LINE REPLACEMENTS, EMERGENCY PROJECTS, UH, THE BRYAN SUBDIVISION UPGRADE, UH, EMERALD SUBDIVISION, AND THEN THE BUMPY ROAD LINE AND BUMPY LIFT STATION IN THERE, AS WELL AS THE A MR OR A MI EXCHANGE. 
          UH, UP ABOVE THAT. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO THE DEBT SERVICE ISSUE. 
          AND, UH, THERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIGNIFICANT UPTICK, IF YOU WILL TAKE A LOOK, PARTICULARLY AT, UH, CO 2017 WHEN WE STRUCTURED THIS. 
          AND THIS WAS SOMETHING GARY HAD TALKED TO ME ABOUT BEFORE HE LEFT. 
          UH, HE FELT REALLY KIND OF UNEASY ABOUT THE 
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WAY IT WAS STRUCTURED. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE IN A POSITION NOW WHERE WE'RE ENTERING THE FINAL PHASE OF THE CONTRACT OR THE FINAL PHASE OF THE ISSUE. 
          AND WE'VE HAD OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSTS TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND TRY TO, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE IN SHORT, TO REFINANCE IT. 
          AND IT WAS MORE, IT'S BEEN MORE EXPENSIVE TO REFINANCE IT THAN JUST TAKE THE BALLOON HIT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT PAYMENT, UH, BASICALLY ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS FOR THE PREVIOUS, UH, EIGHT YEARS. 
          AND WE'LL SEE THAT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          SO, UH, ONCE THAT ONE FALLS OFF, WE'LL HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DEBT CAPACITY IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          UH, TYPICALLY WHAT WE TRY AND DO, UH, IS A 14 OR 21 YEAR WINDOW. 
          THE STATE ALLOWS YOU TO GO 30, BUT YOU NEVER REALLY WANT TO GO TO 30 IF YOU CAN HELP WITH, BECAUSE THE FINANCE COSTS ARE TOO HIGH, UM, WE COULD DOUBLE DOWN AND TRY AND PAY THAT OFF EARLY IN BY CAPACITY. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY AROUND IT. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE IS STRUCTURED ON AN ALMOST ROUTINE BASIS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NUMBER IS WITHIN A 10 OR $15,000 MARK. 
          UM, BUT THAT NOTE, LIKE I SAID, ALMOST HAS A BALLOON CAP ON IT TOWARDS THE . 
          SO, UH, GENERAL FUND FOUR 11. 
          UH, AS MENTIONED IN THE OPENING, WE DO ANTICIPATE, UH, PAIRING BACK OUR STAFFING AND IN, UH, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, UH, WE'VE INCLUDED A LINE ITEM, A CATCHALL OR WELL, WHAT WE HOPE IS A CATCHALL FOR, UH, THIRD PARTY SERVICES, BUT THIS INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAINING. 
          JOHN, DO YOU WANNA KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE TRAINING YOU GUYS ARE DOING? TRAINING IS SOME OF THOSE REQUIRED TRAINING THAT WE GO THROUGH FOR THE WATER AS WELL AS, UH, GETTING THE EMPLOYEES TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO GET THE WATER LICENSE. 
          AND FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, MOST OF IT'S IN, IN WITH REGARDS TO THE WATER SIDE AND SEWER SIDE. 
          SO THERE'S TRAINING BE, HAVE TO DO TO KEEP MAINTAINING THE LICENSE. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET NEW EMPLOYEES. 
          WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYER RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING A TEST FOR HIS D LICENSE, WHICH THEN MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE A C LICENSE ONCE HIS TENURE GETS, GETS HIM THERE. 
          WE LOOK AT ALSO TRAINING IN THE AREAS FOR CDL. 
          WE WENT THROUGH A PROGRAM WHERE LAKE JACKSON ACTUALLY HAD, UH, PROVIDED THEIR TRAINER THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UH, THREE OF OUR EMPLOYEES WENT OVER THERE WHO, UH, TOOK THE TRAINING FOR THE CDL UH, LICENSE. 
          AND I WANNA SAY THERE WERE PROBABLY WHAT, 10? HOW MANY OF THE OBJECTIONS OVER THERE? PROBABLY ABOUT 10 OF THEIRS AND THREE OF OURS. 
          ALL THREE OF OURS PASSED WHEN THROUGH PROCESS. 
          SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THREE OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE FOUR 11 DEPARTMENT, UH, EQUIPPED WITH THE CDL LICENSE, UH, WHICH IS I SAY WAS PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER AS WHAT MIKE JACKSON PROBABLY GOT. 
          THREE OR FOUR OF THEIR EMPLOYEES WERE ABLE TO PASS IT ALL. 
          BUT WE, WE LOOK AT THAT, THE COST OF THAT IS, IS WITH THE NEW RULES ON THE CDL, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CERTAIN TRAINING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THAT PART. 
          THAT'S, THAT, THAT AREA THERE. 
          UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN OTHER AREAS OF TRAINING WITH REGARDS TO MECHANICS. 
          THEY HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN TRAINING, THE PESTICIDE TRAINING CLASSES AND MAINTAIN THEM. 
          THOSE, UM, THAT'S BASICALLY, UH, WHAT'S LISTED THERE FOR TRAINING. 
          AND THAT'S UP THROUGH TS THROUGH A WA, UH, WHEREVER THE CLASSES ARE TAKEN. 
          AND USUALLY DO THOSE CLASSES RANGE FROM ANYWHERE FROM AROUND 4 75 TO $500 A PERSON. 
          SPEAKING OF THAT, WE WERE AT, I WAS AT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY PANEL MEETING AT DIAL THURSDAY AND CONTRACTOR SAFETY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE WAS THERE AND THE MAYOR OF LAKE JACKSON AND I AND HIM KIND OF TALKED ABOUT MAYBE THEM GETTING A CLASS SET UP OVER THERE WHERE, WHERE THEY CAN SERVICE US OFF. 
          IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT, THEY'VE DONE THAT THERE AND THEY'VE OFFERED IT TO US TOO. 
          IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE, THEY'LL BRING A TRAINER HERE OR THEY'LL COME IN HERE. 
          AND, UH, WE'LL INVITE OTHER SEED TO COME OVER HERE. 
          AND THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT CLASSES. 
          IT'S A BASIC WATER CLASS, BASIC SEWER CLASS, UH, COLLECTION SYSTEM. 
          YOU HAVE THE, UH, DISTRIBUTION LICENSE, THE, UH, GROUNDWATER LICENSE. 
          SO THERE'S SEVERAL CLASSES THAT IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO ATTEND THOSE, THEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY SEND AN INSTRUCTOR HERE TO, TO GIVE THE CLASS. 
          AND THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL TO OTHER PLACES. 
          AND PART OF THAT, THAT COST IS INCLUDING THE TRAVELING COSTS IF WE HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND TAKE IT. 
          WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CDO CLASSES. 
          THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, OH, THE CDO. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. 
          WE DID THAT. 
          BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT CO-OPED WITH, WITH THE SAFETY COUNCIL AND THE SAFETY COUNCIL. 
          GO DO THE TRAINING. 
          OKAY. 
          WHERE EVERYBODY WILL THAT JUST, WOULD THAT BE JUST FOR CITIES? MM-HMM . 
          WOULD THAT BE JUST FOR CITIES? UH, I DON'T THINK, I THINK, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT IT TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          ONE LITTLE BIT FURTHER THROUGH, I FIND 
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A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THROUGH EXPENDABLES. 
          AGAIN, UH, JOHN DOES AN AMAZING JOB OF BEING VERY DETAILED IN HIS, UH, HIS LISTING. 
          I, I CUT IT BACK ALSO. 
          I WASN'T SO DETAILED. 
          BUT ALSO ALL THAT SAME TO THAT. 
          THEY DO FORKLIFT TRAINING. 
          THEY DO ALL, ALL THE STUFF. 
          SAFETY CASTLE, ALL KINDS OF TRAINING OVER THERE. 
          SO I MEAN, IF ANY OF OUR GUYS NEED TO GO OVER THERE, THEY, THEY'LL TAKE OUR GUYS OVER THERE AS WELL. 
          SO IF YOU SEE GAPS, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE COLLAPSED LINE ITEMS FROM PRIOR YEARS INTO, UH, INTO, THERE'S A, THERE'S, AND ALSO IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR, WE PULLED THE FLEET INTO FOUR 11. 
          SO WE HAD FOUR 14, WHICH IS FLEET, AND THEN FOUR 11, WHICH WAS OPERATIONS. 
          WE MERGED THOSE TWO TOGETHER. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE NORMALLY SEEN IN THE FOUR 14 BUDGET INTO THIS BUDGET. 
          SO, SO THAT 30 AND 10, THAT, THAT'S YOUR FUEL ESTIMATE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. 
          43 30, UH, AT THE VERY TOP, THE GAS OIL AND 29 AND 29 GAS OIL GREASE. 
          AND 10 FOR THE GAS AND DIESEL. 
          THAT'S GAS AND GREASE. 
          WHERE WE, WE GET THE OIL AND EVERYTHING. 
          WE BROUGHT IT IN AND WE HAVE IT THERE FACILITY. 
          AND, AND, UH, I THINK THE NUMBER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS DOWN AT, UH, DOWN AT 42 30 PURCHASES DISTRIBUTED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO THAT'S THE FUEL THAT WE BUY. 
          WHERE IS THAT AT? AM I ON THE RIGHT SIDE? I SEE IT IS THERE'S PER PURCHASE DISTRIBUTED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          YES. 
          WHERE PURCHASES DISTRIBUTED? IT'S THE ONE 12. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT IS THAT? OH, THAT'S 25, 27. 
          I, I'LL JUST COMMENT. 
          SO THE, THE 29 AND THE 10 IS THE FUEL AND THE DIESEL OR DIESEL NUMBER. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE, THE MINE ITEM FURTHER DOWN IS WHAT WE BUY IN, IN BULK AND THEN DISTRIBUTE TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          I WAS IMPRESSED THAT YOU COULD DO IT FOR DISTRIBUTED AS THEY, AS THEY COME THROUGH THERE WITH, WITH THE, UH, WHEN, WHEN THEY DO, WHEN THEY PURCHASE THE FUEL, WHEN THEY COME IN THERE AND GET THE FUEL, WE GO THE SYSTEM, WE PULL IT ALL OUT AND THERE'S A REPORT SENT IN TO, IS IT SENT TO YOU REPORT WHERE IT BREAKS OUT THE QUANTITIES THAT GO TO SEARCH DEPARTMENTS AND THEN IT GOES TO YEAH, MINE WASN'T A NEGATIVE. 
          MINE'S POSITIVE. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THAT FOR THAT NUMBER. 
          I KNOW WHAT I SPEND A MONTH, SO I I, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I ASK. 
          DON'T SAY IT. 
          SO GRUMPY . 
          WELL CONSIDER MOST OF THESE TRUCKS WOULD, MOST OF THESE VEHICLES DON'T GO OVER 20 MILES A DAY. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, THE TRASH TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          IF THAT MAKES A COUPLE OF RUNS IS WHAT, 30 MILES WHEN YOU THROW THE, THE LOAD ON, UH, THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE USED ALSO. 
          SO WE GO THROUGH QUITE WHAT I SAY, BUT I MEAN IF OUR, IF OUR TRUCKS ARE STAYING LOCAL, WE'RE WHAT? SIX MILE? THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING OUTSIDE OTHER THAN TO THE LANDFILL. 
          ACTUALLY GET ONE MILE OF GALLON. 
          YOU SAID GALLON. 
          UH, HEY MAYOR, CAN WE TAKE A, A 10 MINUTE RUN RECESS? HE'S TALKING, THEY WANNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 
          OKAY. 
          TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, 
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WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT SET ASIDE. 
          WHAT'S THAT? UM, I THINK WENT INTO CAPITAL OF FOUR 11. 
          HOW SELF-INSURING MOST LIKELY WORKERS COMP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, PICK A NOTE BACK TO WHERE WE LEFT OFF. 
          UH, IN CAPITAL FOUR 11, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT GENERATORS, UH, ONE FOR THE SERVICE CENTER OR THE FLEET CENTER AND THE LIBRARY THAT WOULD BE SHARED. 
          AND THEN ONE AT THE, UH, AT THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF. 
          EXCUSE ME, SORRY. 
          UH, AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT, UH, OMITTED FROM, THIS IS A SCISSOR LIFT THAT SOMEHOW I DELETED, UH, WHILE I WAS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S 25,000 THAT WOULD BE GOING IN THERE. 
          BUT THAT'S A SPLIT COST. 
          YOU KIND DON'T WANNA EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS. 
          IT'S A SCISSOR LIFT. 
          WHERE AT EMS, THE LIGHTS THAT ARE INSIDE THE BAY AREA, EVERY TIME SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE OUT THERE, WE HAVE TO RENT A SCISSOR LIFT. 
          AND WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE PD NEEDS IT AS WELL OVER HERE. 
          AND THE RENTAL OF THESE THINGS IS, IS COSTLY. 
          SO THE IDEA THAT, UH, PD AND FOOTWORK AND EMS, WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE PURCHASE OF A SCISSOR LIFT WOULD SPLIT THAT COST BETWEEN ALL THREE APARTMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE ONE ON SITE WHERE WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO RENT ONE AND IT WOULD BE KEPT OVER AT EMS THAT THEY WOULD'VE THE SPACE OVER GINGER. 
          GINGER SAYS SHE HAD THE SPACE OVER THERE WHERE IT COULD BE KEPT OVER THERE. 
          THAT THAT ELIMINATES US FROM HAVING TO RENT ONE CONTINUOUSLY. 
          AND THAT WAY ALL APARTMENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE USE OF IT. 
          BUT WE WOULD SHARE THAT COST. 
          AND THAT, THAT 25, I THINK IT WAS 25,000 WAS A TOTAL COST THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE SPLIT UP BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UTILIZE THE, UH, SOMETHING THAT ALL COULD USE. 
          WE, THE COST UP WE'RE RENT, UH, SINCE TWICE A YEAR JUST TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE VEHICLE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S GUARANTEED EVERY YEAR WE'RE HAVING TO RENT, UH, TWICE A YEAR JUST TO DO THE NOT ANY THAT NEED BE DONE OUT THERE GOES DOWN THE, THERE'S ZERO WAY TO REACH IT WITHOUT EITHER BACKING THE TRUCK UP IN THERE OR DO WE HAVE A WAY TO MOVE IT? I'M SORRY? DO WE HAVE A WAY TO MOVE IT? YOU HAVE A WAY OF DOING IT RIGHT NOW? NO. 
          MOVING THE NEW YES, WE, WE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS ONE ON THE TRAILER. 
          OKAY. 
          BACK. 
          TRYING TO WORK ON ANYBODY USE IT. 
          GOT ANYBODY TRAINED TO MAINTAIN WE CAN TRAIN THEM TO USE IT. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT. 
          MAINTAIN IT. 
          YES. 
          I MEAN, I'M SORRY, . 
          IT'S HARD TO HEAR A GREASE GUN AND A BATTERY CORDS COUNTRY TO MAINTAIN IT. 
          MAINTAIN THE BATTERY DRIVE. 
          IT'S ELECTRIC. 
          YES, BUT THAT ONE THERE UP, YES. 
          I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE LIFTS, LIFTS. 
          WERE VERY COSTLY TO MAINTAIN. 
          AND YOU'RE BETTER OFF, YOU'RE BETTER OFF WHERE THAN YOU ARE ON. 
          AND SEWER LIFTS THE CHEAPEST, CHEAPEST LIFT YOU CAN RENT. 
          WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE GOES INTO 'EM? LIKE KEEPING 'EM, THEY'VE GOT OIL NOWADAYS. 
          ALL THE STUFF THEY'VE GOT, THEY GOT HYDRAULICS, THEY'VE GOT COMPUTERS, THEY GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THEM. 
          LIKE I SAID, I MEAN EVEN AIR  GENERATORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT, THEY'RE ALL THE NEWER ONES ARE ALL COMPUTERIZED AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S TRAINED ON IT. 
          YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA HIRE SOMEBODY THAT'S TRAINED ON IT. 
          THEY CHARGE YOU A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR. 
          COME OUT, PUNCH A BUTTON IN HERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'VE OWNED ONE FOR 10 YEARS. 
          I AIN'T NEVER DONE NOTHING BUT PLUG IT IN. 
          YEAH, BUT I BOUGHT MY NEW, SO YEAH, SOME OF 'EM DO. 
          SOME OF 'EM DON'T GOT GOOD, OF COURSE. 
          GOT GREASE. 
          THEY, THEY'RE LIKE EVERYTHING NOW. 
          THEY, THEY GOT ALL KINDS OF CIRCUIT BOARDS. 
          ONE, YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ALL THE CIRCUIT BOARDS AND ALL THAT IS PROBABLY NOT THERE, THERE NO, IT DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN, BUT THERE IS AN ARC TO ANALOG THAT, UH, THAT IS ELEGANT. 
          SO KEEPING 'EM SIMPLE IS USUALLY THE BETTER WAY TO GO. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FOUR 11 BEFORE WE MOVE INTO SOLID WASTE IN THAT DISCUSSION? 
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NO. 
          DID YOU FIND IT? NO. 
          WE ACTUALLY GOT THREE DIFFERENT QUOTES. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, DO YOU DO WHAT NOW? DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN TO COUNSEL WHAT IT IS AND WHAT, WHAT TYPE IT IS? THIS IS A, UH, GS 2032. 
          YOU HADN'T HAD ANY BATTERY? YOU KNOW, I HADN'T, BUT I PUT A BATTERY MAINTAINER. 
          I WAS TOLD PUT A MAINTAIN ON IT TRUCK. 
          IS IT GENIE LIVED? YEAH. 
          THEY'RE NOT CHEAP. 
          THEY'RE CHEAPER BATTERIES. 
          THE UM, THE HEIGHT MAXIMUM INDOOR IS 32 FEET. 
          REACH, WORKING HEIGHT IS 25 FEET. 
          THE, WHAT WERE YOU ASKING THE QUESTION ON THE, UM, I THINK HIS QUESTION WAS THE TOWING CAPACITY AND THE MAINTENANCE, THE WEIGHT OF IT IS 4,000 7 29 POUNDS. 
          IT LIKE MOST THINGS, THERE MAY BE A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT YOU PAY FOR TOO. 
          I DUNNO COST. 
          WHAT'S THE RENTAL COST? IT, IT'S ALL SPECS ON IT. 
          I MEAN I, WHAT DO WE SIT HERE AND REACH SPEC ON IT? YOU GUYS PUT THE RENTAL COST? YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. 
          AND I RENT IT FOR THE, THE BAY DOORS. 
          IT COST US $800 EVERY TIME THEY COME OUT. 
          SO I SAY ONE ONE DAY. 
          JUST ONE DAY. 
          THAT'S JUST THE COUPLE HOURS ARE THERE. 
          SO COST US $1,400 WHEN WE COME OUT TWICE A YEAR TO DO THE MAINTENANCE. 
          UH, OVER HALF OF THAT COST IS JUST THE COST ON WAS GETTING THEM DELIVERED, GETTING THEM PICKED UP. 
          RENT'S CHEAP. 
          WE DON'T CHARGE THAT ONE. 
          WE DON'T CHARGE THAT. 
          TYPICALLY. 
          TYPICALLY. 
          I'M SURE. 
          TYPICALLY THEY CHARGE $300. 
          CHEESE MAKES EASIER, MAN. 
          I'M IN THE WRONG BUSINESS OUT. 
          YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY MIGHT CHECK YOUR RATE SHEET. 
          YEAH, I CHECK MY RATE SHEET. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE TOOL CODE WE BRINGING THAT'S GOING INTO PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT HAS A NEW ADDED COST. 
          YOU NO, I DON'T RENT IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA GET STUCK IN THERE WITH SOMEBODY ON YOU GO PICK IT UP. 
          YOU GO PICK IT UP YOURSELF. 
          I'M GONNA COME OUT THAT'S BUY AND THEN RENT IT OUT TO OTHER CITIES. 
          . 
          WE COULD, WE COULD ALSO MAYBE TRY AND SEE IF, IF ANYBODY ELSE NEEDS IT. 
          I KNOW LIKE JACKSON HAS ONE YOURSELF OUT THERE. 
          WELL, IT'S A VERY USEFUL TOOL THAT BE USED CITYWIDE. 
          SO YOU KNOW, IT WON'T CENTER. 
          I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          I MEAN IT'S GONNA SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN AND MAKE THINGS EASIER, YOU KNOW, ON Y'ALL. 
          SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT A TREE IN MY BACKYARD. 
          WE COULD, WE COULD USE IT IN PARADES. 
          PUT IT ALL THE WAY UP AND JUST GO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          . 
          IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL. 
          I THINK ALSO LIKE MOSQUITO FESTIVAL, SCISSOR LIFT BRACES. 
          YOU NEED ONE . 
          REMEMBER THAT TIME WE HAD THAT REALLY WEIRD WORKERS' COMP. 
          THAT WAS FUN. 
          THE PROBLEM IS YOU AND I RENTAL WON'T LEND IT TO YOU. 
          OH YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I'M NOT A I'M NOT PLAN. 
          YOU'RE NOT. 
          DON'T FILE IT ON WORKER'S COMP. 
          TELL 'EM GO DOWN TO THE NEXT FIVE NEXT. 
          GET DOWN THERE TO THE NEXT, NEXT LEVEL. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          WE'VE INVESTED IN A ZIPPER. 
          WE'VE INVESTED IN STREET SWEEPERS. 
          WE'VE INVESTED IN OTHER STUFF THAT STAYED BROKE DOWN THREE FOURTHS OF THE TIME THAT WE OWNED IT. 
          WE HAVE A STREET SWEEPER. 
          OH, DON'T EVEN GO THERE. 
          NO, NOT WE HAD ONE. 
          WAS IT? WE PROBABLY STILL DO. 
          IS PROBABLY STILL BACK GONE. 
          DID WE GET RID OF IT? IT'S GONE. 
          HE HAD ACTUALLY REQUESTED ONE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT I CUT IT BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE ON THE, ON THE 1 0 6 FUND. 
          SO TRYING. 
          WE NEED ONE. 
          YES WE DO. 
          UM, BUT WE HAD, IT'S YEAH, I KNOW. 
          I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE'S OFFICE IS FOR. 
          SWEEPING THE STREETS, , ALL HOOD RATS. 
          IT MEANS SOME KIND OF PENALTY. 
          YEAH. 
          SWEEP. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE'RE OFF TOP . 
          SO HEADING 
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INTO, UH, SOLID WASTE, AS I MENTIONED IN MY MEMO, UH, WE'RE AT A CROSSROADS, MA'AM. 
          SORRY, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER . 
          OH . 
          UH, IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, RISING COST MAINTENANCE SERVICE LEVELS AND WE HAVE A, UH, WE, WE PROVIDE AN EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE. 
          THAT EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE COMES AT A COST. 
          UH, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF AT AN INFLECTION POINT 'CAUSE WE NEED TO REPLACE OUR REAR LOADING TRUCKS. 
          UM, WE HAVE ONE BUDGETED IN HERE IN VERSION A, VERSION B, UH, IS TALKING ABOUT A MASSIVE SEISMIC CHANGE TO THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS. 
          UM, AND WE FACE EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL ISSUES EXTERNALLY, WE'RE COMPETING, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE THE SOLE PROVIDER FOR RESIDENTIAL SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, WITH MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS THAT CONTROL, THEY HAVE GRANDER ECONOMY TO SCALES, BETTER EQUIPMENT. 
          UH, AND MOST OF THEM OWN THEIR OWN OWN LANDFILLS, WHICH PUTS US AT A REALLY PROBLEM, PRICE PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO PRICING BECAUSE WE'RE AT THEIR MERCY. 
          UH, THEY CONTROL THE TIP, THEY'RE ABLE TO COVER THAT COST UNDER, UNDER THEIR OWN FEES. 
          AND SO IT MAKES IT MORE ATTRACTIVE. 
          UH, WE HAVE A AGING FREE FLEET AND OUR OPERATORS ARE GETTING OLDER. 
          UH, AND SO WE'RE ONE OF, I THINK HOW, HOW MANY IN THE HOUSTON AREA? FOUR. 
          YEAH. 
          EIGHT, FOUR IN THE HOUSTON AREA, MAYBE EIGHT STATEWIDE THAT STILL OPERATE OUR OWN GARBAGE SERVICE. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'RE, WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS. 
          WE CAN CONTINUE GOING DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE'RE AT. 
          UH, WE CAN INVEST IN THE NEW TRUCKS AND CONTINUE RAISING RATES TO MEET THE OPERATIONAL COST. 
          WE CAN INNOVATE, UH, BY ADAPTING TO SEMI-AUTOMATED TECHNOLOGIES AS OUR COMPETITION DOES. 
          UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO AN AUTOMATED COLLECTION SYSTEM. 
          UH, EVERYBODY WOULD BE PROVIDED A CANISTER. 
          WE WOULD THEN TIP THAT. 
          UM, I KNOW FOLKS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT OR WOULD NOT WANT THAT. 
          UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD REDUCE OUR OVERALL OVERHEAD COSTS. 
          UH, STREAMLINE THE SYSTEM, MAKE US MORE EFFICIENT. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME LEVEL OF CONCIERGE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE CURRENTLY. 
          UH, OPTION THREE IS KIND OF AN AMALGAM OF ONE AND TWO. 
          WE WOULD, UH, REVOKE THE FRANCHISES THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED FOR ALL COMMERCIAL PICKUP. 
          UH, WE WOULD TAKE THAT OVER AND BECOME A MONOPOLY ON RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          AGAIN, THIS WOULD REQUIRE US TO MODIFY ORDER MORE DUMPSTERS AND ALSO MAYBE, UH, MODIFY THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE USING TO COLLECT THE, THE COMMERCIAL WASTE DEPENDING ON THAT. 
          AND ALSO POTENTIALLY INCREASING OUR OVERALL COST, UH, RELATED OPERATIONS BY, BY ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND ADDITIONAL RUNS. 
          UH, AND THEN FINALLY THERE'S WHAT THE NUCLEAR OPTION IS. 
          AND THAT IS TO OUTSOURCE GARBAGE SERVICE IN THE CITY. 
          WE WOULD RETAIN THE BRUSH CREW BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK THAT ANY PROVIDER WOULD WANT TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. 
          AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S STILL DESPERATELY NEEDED AS WE KNOW. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WOULD TURN THAT OVER. 
          UH, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS NO PRIVATE PRESERVE PROVIDER IS GONNA MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE DO. 
          THEY'RE NOT GONNA CREATE THE SAME LEVEL OF GOODWILL. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'LL HAVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE BLOW BACK. 
          UH, AND THEN ONCE WE TURN THAT OVER, WE'RE NOT GETTING IT BACK. 
          AND SO, UH, THE ONLY UPSIDE, UH, IS FISCAL EFFICIENCY OR FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY. 
          WE WOULD BE STANDING TO GAIN REVENUE, UM, INSTEAD OF, UH, HAVING A COST CENTER. 
          UH, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITUATION WHERE THE RATES WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER CONTAINED BECAUSE WE DO A THREE TO FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. 
          AND IF THE RATES STARTED GETTING TOO HIGH, WE'D GO SHOPPING AROUND AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE BOTTOM DOLLAR US FOR THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS AND THEN GO FROM THERE. 
          BUT THAT COMPETITION WOULD BE THE CHECK. 
          WHEREAS HERE WE'RE FACED WITH ALL THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, THE OPERATIONAL COSTS, UH, THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS BUDGET, KNOW THAT VERSION TWO, UH, REFLECTS GOING TO THE NUCLEAR OPTION, WHICH IS VERSION, UH, OPTION FOUR. 
          AND VERSION ONE REFLECTS CONTINUING ON AS WE ARE, UH, UNDER OUR CURRENT MODEL. 
          UH, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE HERE. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WOULD DROP IN PERSONNEL. 
          UH, WE WOULD, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A TRANSITIONARY PHASE. 
          IT MAINTAINS THE, UH, BRUSH CREW. 
          UH, BUT ABOUT SIX MONTHS WORTH OF THE OPERATING COSTS FOR OUR CURRENT OPERATORS. 
          UH, IT INCLUDES ABOUT SIX MONTHS WORTH OF OPERATIONAL COST, UH, AND CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. 
          WE ESTIMATE THAT THE AVERAGE, UH, THE AVERAGE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION CONTRACT IN, IN OUR REGION IS ABOUT $1.5 MILLION PER YEAR. 
          SO WE WOULD LOWER OUR OVERALL COST. 
          THAT WOULD BE PRORATED THAT FIRST SIX MONTHS AND THEN CONTINUE IN THE FUTURE YEARS. 
          AND THE REALITY IS, IS WHEN THESE GUYS COME IN, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY LOW BALL YOU FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS WITH A GREAT NUMBER, AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND START GRADUALLY INCREASING THOSE PRICES. 
          AND SO, UH, THE QUESTION I GUESS THAT'S BEFORE YOU ALL AS COUNSEL, UH, TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON IS HOW MUCH PAIN DO YOU WANT TO ENDURE? UH, AND HOW, WHERE DO WE 
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GO WITH ONE OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS OR FOUR OPTIONS? OR DO YOU WANT US TO JUST CONTINUE TO TRY AND, AND MAKE IT WORK AS WE ARE? SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS OPTION ONE ON THIS SIDE? OPTION ONE IS BASICALLY TO CONTINUE AS WE ARE. 
          UH, SO WE WOULD CONTINUE PROVIDING, UH, CONCIERGE LEVEL SERVICE, UH, WHERE WE GO AND PICK WHAT PICK. 
          I MEAN WHAT PAGE IS THE, WHAT PAGE IS THE DIFFERENT, UH, CHOICES ON. 
          SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT, IN YOUR RIGHT HAND COLUMN, YOUR FAR RIGHT COLUMN, THOSE ARE YOUR COST DIFFERENTIALS BETWEEN THE TWO MODELS. 
          OH, I SEE. 
          SO VERSION ONE IS THE OUTSOURCING. 
          NO. 
          VERSION ONE IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY ARE DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT DOES OKAY. 
          POST BUDGET VERSION TWO IS THE ALTERNATE. 
          JUST, YEAH, LEMME GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          AND THEN JOHN'S GOT A STATEMENT THAT HE'S PREPARED. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS, IS IF YOU DO THIS, UH, IF WE GO WITH OPTION FOUR, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ADVOCATING, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR DIRECTION. 
          UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A COST SAVINGS TO BE NETTED, BUT THERE'S ALSO, UH, THERE'S ALSO THE EMOTION AND THE, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR CUSTOMERS THE WAY THEY EXPECT TO BE SEEN. 
          WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE ONES DOING, WHAT DO YOU ADVISE? WELL, I HEARD, AND I, I'M ASKING YOUR OPINION. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          I WANT TO KNOW IF I COULD, IF I COULD READ THIS AND, AND, UH, AND I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION AT THE SAME TIME. 
          BUT, UH, UH, I DID ASK, PREPARE THE STATEMENT THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AND MY THOUGHTS ON IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I PUT 'EM THERE. 
          SO I MAY NOT BE LOOKING AT YOU, BUT I'M READING. 
          THINK ABOUT IT. 
          UM, C PROVIDES, AND I'M JUST GONNA READ IT IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          YES, SIR. 
          C PROVIDES RESIDE TRASH SERVICE TO THE SYSTEMS INCLUDED RESIDENTIAL TRASH SERVICE'S. 
          PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST STRENUOUS JOBS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, FEET ALONG, WEARS DOWN THE WORKERS TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO SWITCH OUT WORKERS ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK PERIODICALLY, THE COPS STEPPING UP AND DOWN OFF THE TRUCK TO PICK UP TRASH IS TOUGH. 
          WE USE TEMPS IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK UNLESS WE MUST GO TO A, A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE TO DO THAT. 
          MS JOB IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LEAST PAID JOBS IN THE CITY. 
          TRUCK REPAIRS ARE ALSO AN ISSUE. 
          THEY CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE. 
          THE COVER STRUCTURE IS EXPENSIVE. 
          OPERATE THE WEAR AND TEAR THEY GO THROUGH CONTRIBUTES TO THIS ISSUE. 
          THESE TRUCKS ARE USED FOUR DAYS A WEEK. 
          FOR THIS PURPOSE, WE MUST EXPECT REPAIRS. 
          OUR NEWEST TRUCK, THE REAR LOADER IS A 2019 MODEL. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A 2015 AND A 2009. 
          THE 2009 IS USED AS A BACKUP FOR THE JOB THESE TRUCKS PERFORM. 
          I WOULD'VE TO SAY IT'S PRETTY GOOD. 
          THE QUALITY OF TRUCKS THESE DAYS IS NOT THE SAME AS YEARS PAST. 
          AND WHAT YOU SPEND ON WHAT YOU GET TO DISCUSS THE TYPE OF SERVICE WE PROVIDE THE CITY OF PROVIDED A QUALITY OF SERVICE THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. 
          FIELD OF DREAMS OF BASEBALL MOVIE, YOU HAVE A SLOGAN, YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME. 
          THE CITY OF SANITATION DEPARTMENT SLOGAN SHOULD BE, YOU PUT IT OUT, WE'LL PICK IT UP. 
          IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW THEY CAN FEED SO MUCH TRASH WHEN, WHEN WE PICK IT UP TWICE A WEEK. 
          RISING LANDFILL COSTS AFFECTS US TREMENDOUSLY WHEN LOOKING AT OUR ORDINANCE ON TRASH PICKED UP. 
          IT'S JUST WORDS ON PAPER. 
          AND I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE IF YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT OUR ORDINANCE, THERE'S UH, SPECIFICATIONS THAT SPECIFY WHAT PEOPLE CAN'T PUT OUT, WHAT THEY CAN'T PUT OUT, HOW MUCH OF IT THEY CAN PUT OUT THE WEIGHT OF IT. 
          UH, I SAYS, UH, RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH HIGH QUALITY OF SERVICE THAN IS GOING TO EXPECT THAT THEY HAVE BECOME SO USED TO SUCH A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT ANY CHANGE IS GOING TO CREATE SET. 
          NOW WITH REGARDS TO COMMERCIAL DUMPSTER SERVICE, THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE SEA PROVIDES SERVICE. 
          CURRENTLY, WE ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING AN IN-HOUSE AUDIT. 
          ON THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE, WE PROVIDE A THREE YARD AND A FOUR YARD. 
          DUMPSTER PICKUP DAYS ARE DETERMINED BY THE CUSTOMER, THOSE WHICH CONSIST OF TWO TIMES A, A WEEK, THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES, FIVE TIMES, OR SIX TIMES A WEEK. 
          MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. 
          OUR AUDIT CONSISTS OF IDENTIFYING ALL DUMPSTERS, THE ACTUAL DAYS THAT EACH DUMPSTER SHOULD BE PICKED UP, AND THAT THE CUSTOMER IS BEING CHARGED CORRECTLY. 
          I WILL NOTE THAT SINCE 2008, OUR RATES HAVE ONLY INCREASED 6% SINCE 2008 IN THAT AREA FOR THOSE JOBS, 2008, A THREE YARD PICKED UP TWICE A WEEK IS, UH, IS ONLY A HUNDRED WAS IN 2008 IS 114 80. 
          TODAY IT'S A HUNDRED TWENTY ONE SIXTY NINE. 
          SO IT'S ONLY GONE UP ROUGHLY THESE $7 IN 17 YEARS. 
          WHAT THIS MEANS IS WHEN A DUMP, UH, GOING BACK TO WHAT I WAS, THAT THEY'RE CHARGED CORRECTLY. 
          WHAT THIS MEANS IS WHEN A DUMPSTER IS SET, IS PUT ON THE ACCOUNT THE SIZE OF THE NUMBER OF DAYS TO BE PICKED UP. 
          SOME ITEMS WE ARE FINDING ARE ACCOUNTS WITH THE 
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DUMPSTER THAT THE STATUS IS TURNED OFF NOT BEING CHARGED FOR THAT DUMPSTER. 
          THE DAYS CHANGE FROM TWO TIMES A WEEK TO FOUR TIMES A WEEK, OR VICE VERSA, FOUR TIMES A WEEK TO TWO TIMES A WEEK. 
          USUALLY IN A NOTE SECTION IT STATES WHAT DAYS OF THE WEEK THE DUMPSTER TO BE PICKED UP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          EACH DRIVER HAS A BOOK THAT LISTS, THAT COUNTS TO BE PICKED UP THAT DAY. 
          THIS BOOK IS BEING REVIEWED FOR ACTUALLY ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE NUMBER OF DUMPSTERS FOR EACH CUSTOMER HAS BEEN CHANGED. 
          SOME ACCOUNTS SHOW A THREE YARD CHANGE TO A FOUR YARD OR FOUR YARDS TO A THREE YARD. 
          WE ARE ALSO AT ACCOUNTS THAT ARE DISCONNECTED AND HAVE A DUMPSTER. 
          THE ACCOUNT IS INACTIVE. 
          THE DUMPSTERS PORTION STILL SHOWS ON ANOTHER TENANT TURNS ON PAYING A COMMERCIAL GARBAGE RATE MUCH LESS, WHICH IS AROUND 50 SOMETHING DOLLARS, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE CAUSE OF THE DUMPSTER. 
          THE DUMPER IS NOT CHARGED. 
          THE QUESTION IS, IS THE DUMPSTER STILL ON SITE? UH, WE DID HAVE ONE THAT I NOTICED THAT WHEN THE DUMPSTER WAS SET, IT WAS OFF UNTIL THEY COMPLETED THE DEAL. 
          BUT IT HAPPENED TO GO A YEAR AND TWO MONTHS BEFORE IT WAS ACTUALLY TURNED BACK ON TO WHERE THEY WERE BEING CHARGED. 
          THEY WENT OVER A YEAR, A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHERE THEY WERE NOT CHARGED. 
          LASTLY, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING. 
          WE NEED TO ENFORCE AND HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING. 
          WE HAVE WORKED WITH FIRE MARSH ON CODE TO TRY AND HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. 
          THIS HAS PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          THIS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY DUMPING. 
          IN SOME CASES, THEY GET THE TRASH PICKED UP. 
          THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT STILL EXISTS AND NEEDS MORE SUPPORT TO STOP IT. 
          IN CONCLUSION, THE CITY PROVIDES EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE IN ALL AREAS, NOT JUST SANITATION. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT AN ESTABLISHING PROCESS THROUGH UPDATED ORDINANCES, POLICY AND PROGRAMS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE RESIDENTS EXPECT AND DESERVE. 
          BUT RESIDENTS NEED TO BE A PART OF THAT AS WELL TO KEEP THE CITY CLEAN AND BEAUTIFUL. 
          WE ALL HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS. 
          THE CHALLENGE IS GETTING THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT COST OF THIS PROCESS. 
          SHOULD THIS BE SERVICE, BE OUTSOURCED? THERE WILL BE A SET OF RULES SET BY THAT PROVIDER. 
          QUALITY OF SERVICE WILL NOT BE THE SAME. 
          THEIR INTEREST WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS OUR INTERESTS ARE YOURS. 
          YOURS WOULD ONLY BE TO PICK UP, PICK UP THE TRASH, WHAT THEY ALLOW YOU TO PICK UP. 
          AND THE COST DETERMINED. 
          IF YOU DO THAT ONCE A WEEK OR TWICE A WEEK IN THE END, COMPLAINTS WILL STILL COME TO THE CITY. 
          UM, I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE I, I, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH A CHANGE LIKE THAT, I THINK CHANGE HAS CHANGED WHEN WE DO THAT. 
          LIKE CJ SAID, YOU GET RID OF IT, IT'S GONE. 
          IT'S GONNA BE ALMOST POSSIBLE. 
          GET BACK. 
          WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE DO THE WORK. 
          IF IT'S EVERY CITY I'VE GONE AROUND AND LOOKED AT THAT, THAT HAS A SERVICE. 
          THEIR METHODS ARE UP TO DATE TO WHERE YOU'RE NOT USING, YOU'RE USING ONE TRUCK AND THEY'RE PICKING UP THE CANS AND DUMPING. 
          THERE'S INVESTMENT. 
          EVERY DEPARTMENT AROUND HERE INVESTS IN THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO MOTIVATE TO, TO MOVE UP WITH THE TIMES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SANITATION, PUBLIC, WHERE HAS NOT GONE THAT DIRECTION. 
          SANITATION IS ONE OF THE AREAS. 
          WE GET CONFIDENCE ALL THE TIME. 
          WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN THERE BRINGING TRASH CREWS, COOKIES BECAUSE THEY APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY GO OUT THERE. 
          UM, IT IS A, IT IS VERY HARD. 
          PROBABLY, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE LEAST PAYING PEOPLE JOBS ON THE BACK OF THOSE TRUCKS. 
          GETTING SOMEBODY TO WORK IN THE BACK OF THAT TRUCK. 
          WE HAVE LITERALLY HERE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, HAD TO CHANGE PEOPLE OUT. 
          'CAUSE THEY COME IN, THEY FALL OUT. 
          THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST WIPED OUT WHEN YOU TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS. 
          UH, BUT IN MY OPINION, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO SAVE MONEY. 
          WE'VE DONE IT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          PUBLIC WORKS IS ALWAYS, WE'VE HAD OPEN POSITIONS FOR THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND WE HAVEN'T FIELD, WE'VE LOOKED AT WAYS TO DO IT. 
          WE DON'T JUST DO ONE PARTICULAR JOB. 
          MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES OVER THERE ARE MULTITASKING. 
          THEY, THEY'RE NOT JUST ASSIGNED ONE SPECIFIC THING. 
          THEY'RE, THEY MAY BE PUTTING SIGNS UP TODAY, TOMORROW, THEY'RE CHANGING OUT METERS. 
          NEXT WEEK THEY'RE CLEANING UP DITCHES AND NEXT TIME THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOWING. 
          AND WE, WE DO THAT ON A, ON A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STAFF. 
          WE KEEP CUTTING STAFF. 
          AND I'M NOT ASKING TO ASK STAFF. 
          I JUST NEED, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DOING STUFF PROBABLY IN A LOT OF AREAS. 
          AND I TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT FOUR YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO AGO, UH, AGO. 
          RISING COSTS OF LANDFILL COSTS. 
          THEY'RE GONNA KEEP RISING. 
          WE NEED, WE FIND OUT A WAY HOW WE CAN DO IT OR MAYBE WE DON'T KEEP IT. 
          BUT IT'S, UH, THERE ARE WAYS OUT THERE, BUT IT'S GOING COME TO A COST. 
          AND THAT'S IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          HOW PROFITABLE IS THE COMMERCIAL COLLECTION OR HOW PROFITABLE CAN IT BE? CAN WE MAKE, HOW PROFIT CAN IT BE? WHEN YOU LOOK AT, I LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES, WHAT THEY CHARGE, HOW THEY GO ABOUT DOING IT. 
          THERE'S MEANING THAT THEIR ORDINANCES AND PROGRESS. 
          I MEAN, YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PICK IT UP. 
          WE CATER TO 'EM. 
          AND, 
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AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T CATER, I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE WE'VE GONE TO THE POINT WHERE WE CARE TOO MUCH. 
          I MEAN, WHEN THEY, THOSE GUYS GET OUT THEIR TRUCK, IT'S NOT JUST A COUPLE OF BAGS. 
          IT MAY BE TWO BAGS, A CANON WITH STUFF IN IT IN FOUR OR FIVE. 
          IF YOU, IF YOU GO THESE OTHER ROUTES, YOU CAN SAVE MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK TO YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE I'M ASKING PROFITABLE HOW IT CAN BE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR RATES. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE WE CHARGE 6% SINCE 2008. 
          WELL, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IN OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS, UH, THEY ALL SAY THAT, UH, THEY CAN, THESE PRIVATE, UH, GARBAGE PICKUP COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING THESE, UH, DUMPSTERS AND COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS IN OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS, IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY. 
          BUT IF WE EVER HAVE THE CAPABILITY OR BASICALLY THE WILL TO TAKE OVER THAT BUSINESS, WE COULD TAKE OVER ALL THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS RIGHT NOW THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          IF IT'S A PROFIT MAKER, RIGHT. 
          THAT WE CAN USE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR WASTE CONNECTIONS LAWSUIT. 
          AND I THINK WHEN WE DID A LITTLE CHECK, WE THOUGHT IT HAD, I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          WE THOUGHT THEY HAD LIKE EIGHT OR NINE. 
          UH, WE GOT A LETTER FROM THEM 'CAUSE WE THREATENED TO START GIVING THEM TICKETS TO THEIR DRIVERS. 
          AND THAT REALLY SHOOK 'EM UP. 
          AND THEY SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOT 40 CUSTOMERS IN TOWN AND UH, WE WANNA DO A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. 
          WE WANT TO COME FORWARD AND START PAYING OUR FRANCHISE FEES AND WE WANT TO WORK IT ALL OUT. 
          BUT IF THERE'S 40 CUSTOMERS AND WE DON'T THOUGHT THEY ONLY HAD EIGHT, IF THOSE ARE PROFIT MAKING CUSTOMERS, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO TRY TO DO THE COMMERCIAL, JUST TAKE OVER THE COMMERCIAL AND USE THE INCOME ON THE COMMERCIAL TO OFFSET THE RE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE PROFITABLE OR NOT. 
          WELL, I I THINK I OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PROFIT SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING IT. 
          YOU'VE GOT MORE THAN WHAT JUST WASTE CONNECTIONS IN THE BUSINESS. 
          YOU'VE GOT WASTE MANAGEMENT WHO HAS A FRANCHISE WHO PAYS THEIR FRANCHISE FEES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN JOHN AND I STARTED, STARTED THIS DISCUSSION, WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT THE EXPECTED BILLING WAS ON HIS SIDE SHOWING THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS BASED ON HIS BOOK. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE A STEADY DROP OFF A DECLINE BECAUSE FOLKS HAVE TRANSITIONED EITHER TO WASTE CONNECTIONS TO WASTE MANAGEMENT. 
          SO WE'VE LOST REVENUE THERE, LOST BUSINESS, UM, AND THAT IT'S ALMOST A $20,000 PER MONTH GAP, RIGHT. 
          THERE WAS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT FROM EVERY YOU LOOKED AT, WE LOOKED AT WHAT, WHEN I SAY THE STATUS IS ON IN THE ACCOUNT, YOU LOOKING AT WHAT SAYS WERE ON, THEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK, SEE IF IT WAS ALL COMPARE THE TWO, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE WHAT WE HAVE LOST. 
          APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE PROBABLY THE ONE, THE BIGGEST ONES. 
          IT'S AMAZING ME WHAT THEY PAY. 
          SOME OF 'EM HAVE 17 DUMPSTERS AND THEY WANT TO GO TO, TO, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          17 DUMPSTERS A MONTH. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL CAPITAL COST OR ADDITIONAL TRUCK COST OR ADDITIONAL LABOR. 
          WELL, IN ORDER LESS LABOR INTENSIVE. 
          I DON'T YEAH, TWO GUYS ON THE BACK. 
          RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION WAS IN 2008. 
          I KNOW THE SITUATION NOW IS IS THAT IF WE MET LIKE THE FREQUENCY THAT THEY'RE PICKING UP AT WITH OUR LOAD, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY ADD SIZES AND WELL SIZE. 
          YEAH. 
          SAY LIKE THE STORE UP HERE, THEY'RE EIGHT YARD DUMPSTERS. 
          WE DON'T CARRY YARD. 
          OUR TRUCKS ARE ONLY 50, BE ABLE PICK UP THREE OR FOUR YARD. 
          SO WE, WE CAN'T, SO WE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH FOUR, FOUR YARDS TO MAKE UP FOR THEIR TWO EIGHT YARDS. 
          OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT TO GO IN A GARBAGE BUSINESS. 
          DEPENDING ON WHAT DIRECTION YOU GO. 
          COULD COULD BE ANYTHING. 
          YES. 
          I MEAN IT, IT'S, SO DOES, SO WE IN THE CITY BUSINESS, ARE WE IN THE GARBAGE BUILDING? I'M SORRY. 
          SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE GONNA BE IN THE CITY BUSINESS OR ARE WE GONNA BE IN THE GARBAGE BUSINESS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          AND HOW WOULD IT AFFECT HEAVY TRASH PICKUP? HEAVY TRASH PICKUP IS, UH, YOU, WE ALLOT SO MUCH ANYTHING OVER SAY A PICKUP TRUCK LOAD, WE CHARGE FOR THAT. 
          BUT I DID BRING THIS UP THE OTHER DAY THAT WE, THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE TAKEN OUR DUMPSTERS OUT, PUT OTHER DUMPSTERS IN. 
          THE QUESTION WAS WHY ARE WE PICKING UP THEIR HEAVY, HEAVY TRASH? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USING OUR DUMPSTERS THEN WHOEVER THEIR PROVIDER NEEDS TO PICK UP THAT TRASH. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ILLEGAL DUMPING WE'VE GOT AROUND HERE, I DROVE UP AND CAUGHT PEOPLE DOING IT AND THEY LAUGH AT ME WHEN I TAKE A PICTURE OF THEIR DRIVER, PICK HIS FENCE. 
          UH, I TOOK PICTURES YESTERDAY, I THINK IT WAS OVER THERE. 
          UM, YOU HAVE EVEN CLOSED AREA. 
          YOU GOT FOUR DUMPSTERS IN THERE. 
          THERE'S A SPACE THERE. 
          YOU'VE GOT DOORS, YOU'VE GOT MATTRESSES ACROSS THE STREET BY LAKE HARDWARE. 
          BY THEIR DUMPSTER. 
          THERE'S TWO MATTRESSES RIGHT THERE. 
          AND I'VE BEEN IN  WATCHING 'EM BEFORE. 
          COUPLE GIRLS COME UP THERE, THEIR TRUNK GOT GARBAGE OUT DOING THE DUMPSTER. 
          I MEAN IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. 
          BUMPY ROAD BEHIND UNITED RENTAL. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, UH, I THINK ROCK WAS ABLE TO CATCH THAT ONE. 
          THE CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT I SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION FIELD THAT AND THAT'S, PEOPLE GO THERE, DO SIDELINE CONSTRUCTION WORK. 
          WELL MY MOM LIVES OVER IN CL SO I'LL JUST DUMP IT BEHIND HER HOUSE AND IT GETS PICKED UP. 
          AND THAT'S, THEY DO AND THAT GETS BACK TO THAT SERVICE LEVEL EXPECTATION. 
          WE PICK, WE'VE, WE'VE CONDITIONED OUR CUSTOMERS 
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TO EXPECT THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE EVERYTHING. 
          MY CONCERN IS WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO FIND EMPLOYEES? BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON AROUND HERE THAT AIN'T LOOKING TO HIRE AN EMPLOYEE CAN'T FIND ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOT A JOB. 
          EVERYBODY WANTS A JOB, GOT ONE. 
          THE REST OF THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT. 
          NO PEOPLE DON'T. 
          12 AND TWO, IF WE GO TO THE OPTION WHERE WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO IT, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO OUR EMPLOYEES? WHERE DO THEY GO? WELL, YEAH, SO YOU'VE GOT, UH, IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 OPERATORS. 
          FOUR OPERATORS. 
          WE HAVE TWO DRIVERS ON THE REAR LOADERS. 
          WE HAVE TWO SIDE LOAD DRIVERS. 
          AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR TEAM, THEN YOU HAVE YOUR BRUSH CREW. 
          YES. 
          THE BRUSH CREW WOULD BE MAINTAINED, BUT WE WOULD LOSE THOSE OTHER POSITIONS. 
          SO FOUR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY'D BE RELOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          WELL WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE EARTH OPEN POSITIONS. 
          UH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE REALITY IS IS THE A THE MAYBE GOING TO, UH, ONE OF THE TWO OPEN POSITIONS WE'VE HAD FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO GET AN OPERATOR IN THERE. 
          ANOTHER OPERATOR BY STATE RULES WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO OPERATORS SIDE. 
          AND WE HAVE THAT. 
          I HAVE, WE NEED TO GET MORE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE MEETING THOSE POSITIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OUTSIDE OF THE OTHER, THE OTHER ISSUE YOU HAVE IS THE, THE STAFFING IN THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          THE AVERAGE AGES. 
          WELL, AT THE, AT THE CAP MEETING THE OTHER DAY, WE DISCUSSED THE MATTRESS ISSUE A LITTLE BIT THERE TOO. 
          AND UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF 'EM CAME UP THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY POSTED ON FACEBOOK, JUST GO DOUBLE THEM AT A DEPARTMENT PICK, PICK AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND GO DOUBLE IT. 
          AND I'VE DONE THE MATH. 
          I CAN BUILD AN INCINERATOR FOR MATTRESSES FOR LESS THAN 10,000 . 
          HEY, WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TALKING TO YOU. 
          I'M DEAD SERIOUS. 
          YEAH, NO, THIS WHOLE CONCEPT GOT ME TO YEAH, NO, WE'VE BEEN, WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH KENNY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH LAKE JACKSON ABOUT GOING IN. 
          'CAUSE THE REALITY IS, IS RIGHT NOW THAT THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE. 
          YOU CAN BUILD IT FOR $10,000. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT MIGHT COST YOU $150,000 TO GET A PERMIT. 
          WELL, THAT, THAT YEAH. 
          . 
          BUT AT $40 A MATTRESS, NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT 65, HUH? NO, NO, NO. 
          HE, HE QUOTED 40. 
          WE HEARD HIM. 
          HE'S ON THE RECORD. 
          I'M JUST FIGURING HOW MANY OF 'EM I CAN. 
          DIDN'T BSF JUST PUT IN A NEW INCINERATOR IN THEIR FACILITIES? BUT NO, WE, WE DID NOT. 
          BECAUSE ONCE WE LOOKED INTO THE REAGAN, THE COST TO OPERATE IS EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH BECAUSE OF THE REGULATORY IMPACT. 
          NO, I SAID DIDN'T BASF JUST PUT SOME IN THERE? UH, THEY MAY HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO CROSS IF WE COULD GET THE FOLKS AT THE PLANT TO BURN. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR TCA HOLE OVER FIVE ACRES. 
          I DON'T. 
          SO ARE YOU KIND OF ON THE FENCE OF OUTSOURCING IT, KEEPING IT, DO YOU MAYBE NEED MORE TIME, LIKE MAYBE THIS NEXT YEAR REALLY HONE IN ON THE PROS AND CONS? I KNOW I ASKED CJ WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, TIMELINES. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT BUDGET AT A DEFICIT BEFORE WE JUMP BACK DECISION. 
          SOMETHING THAT WE, LIKE I SAID, WE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE SAVE MONEY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, IT IS, ONCE YOU GET RID OF IT, YOU GOTTA DETERMINE THE CONTRACT. 
          THE CONTRACT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED. 
          AND THEN, AND KNOWING FROM WHAT, WHEN THEY SET THAT CONTRACT, ALL I SAID, ALL THEY'RE GONNA BE CONCERNED IS, IS THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA PROVIDE A DUMPSTER THERE. 
          IF YOU CAN PUT THAT DUMPSTER, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE THAT DOCK GONNA PICK IT UP. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE LAYING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          IT'S GONNA BE LAYING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          SO WHO'S GONNA PICK THAT UP? I MEAN, ARE WE GONNA BE PICKING IT UP OR, UH, THEY, WERE WE GONNA TURN AROUND AND HAVE, HOLD RESIDENCE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT, UH, FOR THEIR TRASH THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE ROAD? OR LET'S LAY BESIDE ME BECAUSE MEAN, TYPICALLY THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT WITH ONE DRIVER WITH A DEAL AND EACH GONNA HAVE THAT CALL GONNA EMPTY THAT TRASH CAN AND THAT'S IT. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE, THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT ARE INEVITABLE. 
          SEWER, TRASH AND YOUR TAXES. 
          THOSE, THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE HERE TO WHEN WE'RE ALL GONE. 
          SO I MEAN, SO IF WE GET RID OF IT, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE GET RID OF IT, WE'LL NEVER GET IT BACK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IF WE GIVE IT AWAY TO SOMEBODY, THEN WE EITHER GONNA HAVE TO BE GOING OUT FOR CONTRACT EVERY YEAR TO FIND THE BEST RATE OR WE'RE GONNA BE AT THE MERCY OF SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          SO THE CHANCES ARE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO IT ONE TIME A WEEK. 
          CHANCES ARE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND 
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THEN IF YOU, IF YOU DO IT TWICE A WEEK, THEN THAT'S GONNA DETERMINE YOUR COST AND, AND THEY GOTTA GIVE YOU A LITTLE TRASH CAN THAT'S NOT ANY BIGGER THAN THE ONES THAT WE'RE THAT YEAH. 
          THAT WE'VE BEEN RENTING TO PEOPLE OR SELLING TO PEOPLE. 
          YEP. 
          THEY CAN GIVE YOU WANT A TRASH CAN. 
          YEAH. 
          I, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I THINK, I MEAN OUR PUBLIC WORK SERVICE, OUR TRASH SERVICE, I MEAN, IS WHAT SETS US ABOVE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE GONE TOWARDS THE THIRD PARTY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OFFER THAT PEOPLE CONTINUOUSLY TELL ME. 
          LIKE THAT'S WE DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF WE GO TO A THIRD PARTY SERVICE AND WE, WE FALL ON THAT BALL TOO, IT'S ANOTHER THING THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, WELL WE DO THAT WRONG TOO, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO BE WILLING TO PAY TWICE THE FEE YEAH. 
          TO GET THAT SERVICE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO PAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY TWICE AS MUCH? WELL, I MEAN, TO GET YOUR WATER PICKED UP, I MEAN, TO GET YOUR GARBAGE TREE UP, MAYBE YOU PUBLICIZE. 
          WELL THAT'S SO, YOU KNOW, SAY YOU GET OUR SERVICE, THIS IS WHAT COST, IF WE GO TO A CONTRACT, THIS IS WHAT IT COST, BUT YOUR SERVICE IS NOT GONNA BE VERY GOOD. 
          WHAT IS THE RATE RIGHT NOW FOR I YES SIR. 
          SAY I'M ONLY PAYING LIKE 25 BUCKS OR SOMETHING TO GET IT PICKED UP TWICE. 
          $29 A MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ISN'T IT? UH, 24 0 9 IS YOUR CURRENT COST. 
          WE PROPOSED A LET ME GET BACK DOWN TO THAT SLIDE. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          AND I THINK JOHN, RESPECT TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I'VE SEEN THE SAME THING IN MY BUSINESS. 
          THE MINIMUM WE INCREASE OVER TIME. 
          SOME OVERSIZED, SOME WERE JUST WORKING SO HARD. 
          WHAT IS THE, AND THEN THE PROBLEM GOES FROM 6% TO 24. 
          WHAT HAPPENED, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WELL YOU GOT A DEAL FOR 10 YEARS, 50 YEARS AGO, THREE BUCKS. 
          SO CHANGE IS GONNA BE EITHER WAY, RIGHT? , THERE'S GONNA BE A COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT EITHER WAY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE SERVICE, WHAT HAPPENED THAT'S COME. 
          YEP. 
          SO WE, WE MODELED A 15% INCREASE, WHICH WOULD TAKE US TO 27 71, UH, IN TERMS OF MONTHLY GARBAGE CHARGING ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. 
          UH, THE REALITY IS, IS IF WE WERE TO CAPITALIZE AT THE LEVEL WE PROBABLY NEEDED TO BE CAPITALIZED TO, TO TAKE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A RATE INCREASE OF ALMOST 45%. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN AS AGGRESSIVE ON THE DUMPSTERS. 
          UH, WE'RE INCLUDING A 15% INCREASE ON DUMPSTER COST THIS YEAR. 
          BUT IF WE'RE ALREADY SEEING BUSINESSES MAKING BUSINESS DECISIONS COST ON BASED ON COST, AND WE'RE LOSING THOSE CUSTOMERS, IT BECOMES A TIPPING POINT. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK IF, IF WE'RE REALLY GONNA GET SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT LOOKING AT INVESTING IN TAKING AWAY, CLOSING OFF THE MARKET AS IT WERE, IN FIGURING OUT A WAY ABSOLUTELY. 
          TO MAKE IT A PROFIT CENTER. 
          UH, I THINK THAT IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL EXPENDITURE. 
          UM, WE KNOW THAT GOING IN, UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IF YOU RECALL BACK IN 2022, AND WE KNEW THIS DAY WAS GONNA COME, BUT WE WERE GONNA HIT A MARK WHERE OPERATIONALLY WE HAD EXPENSES CAPITAL WISE, WE HAD EXPENSES, WE WERE GONNA HIT THAT END OF LIFE. 
          AND HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE THAT DECISION? WELL, WE'RE KIND OF AT THAT POINT, WE CAN KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ANOTHER YEAR AND TAKE A LOOK AND STUDY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER NEEDED IS. 
          BUT I, IT, IT'S, WELL, I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, UH, I'M PRESUMING THAT THE TRASH TRUCKS ARE ABOUT LIKE FIRE TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE ONE, THEY'RE A YEAR OUT VERY MUCH. 
          IT TOOK US A YEAR, TOOK US A YEAR TO GET A YEAR AND FOUR MONTHS TO GET THE LAST ONE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I SAYING, THEY, THEY'RE A YEAR OUT. 
          IF YOU ARE TO ONE, THEY'RE A YEAR OUT. 
          AND, UM, I'VE GOT ONE IN EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE BEEN ORDERED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERY IN, UH, SEPTEMBER, THE SIDE DOOR AND IT'S $455,000 THAT I'M SPENDING ON MY SIDE. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE SEPTEMBER. 
          THEN YOU GOTTA FIND SOMEBODY TO DRIVE IT AND SOMEONE ELSE TO MAINTAIN. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND I PAID, I PAID MORE THAN WHAT THE CITY DOES FOR MY DRIVER AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE GETTING DRIVING WITH THAT. 
          I DID LOOK AT SOME OTHER AREAS AND I MEANT, I JUST PULLED ONE. 
          I I'VE ACTUALLY SET SEVERAL UP TO LOOK AT IT REAL CLOSE, BUT SOME AREAS ARE CHARGING IN EXCESS OF ONCE A WEEK, $31 AND 70 SINCE PER MONTH. 
          UH, PLUS SALES TAX ON HAVING ONE CARD, WHICH WOULD BE DECEMBER CARD. 
          AND THAT'S, UH, IF YOU HAVE THE SECOND CARD IS AN ADDITIONAL 1999. 
          SO, AND THEN I'VE GOT SOME OTHERS. 
          I, I'M TRYING TO FIND HERE WHAT NOT TOO MANY THINGS YOU CAN DO FOR $10 A WEEK ANYMORE. 
          YOU, YOU THINK? I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. 
          BUT ANYHOW. 
          AND YOU'RE AT $40 A MONTH. 
          I MEAN, FOR WHAT WE PICK UP $3 A MONTH. 
          I MEAN, I REALIZE THAT IT CAN, 
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CAN STRAP SOME. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PICK UP ALL THE NON NON-CON CONTAIN TRASH. 
          TO ME THAT'S GOTTA BE AN EXPENSE THAT WE ARE JUST, IT'S VERY TOTALLY UNDERWATER ON IT IS WE'RE VERY LABOR INTENSIVE. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S BACK TO CONDITIONING THE EQUIPMENT, THE LANDFILL FEES. 
          WELL, ORDINANCE COVERS AREAS OF THAT AS FAR AS WHAT YOU CAN PUT OUT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF IT'S BAGS, IF IT'S SUPPOSEDLY BAGS OF NOT LESS, UH, CAPACITY OF NOT LESS THAN FIVE GALLONS, NO MORE THAN 20 GALLONS IS A DISPOSABLE BAG. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT ENFORCING THAT. 
          WE'RE NOT ENFORCING THESE THINGS. 
          CANS, GUYS TRY TO PICK UP CANS AND IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE THEY CAN'T PICK IT UP. 
          AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO BAGS. 
          'CAUSE THE BACK INJURIES ON THE BACK OF THE GARBAGE TRUCK SUPPOSEDLY. 
          BUT IF THE CAN IS NOT THE TYPE CAN YOU CAN PUT ON THERE, THEN YOU CAN BACK SQUARE WATER. 
          THE THE CAN IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A LID ON IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT HAVING OPEN LID. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY DON'T HAVE LIDS UNDER IT RAIN TO FILL THE CAN WATER. 
          SO NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO FILL UP WATER AND, AND ALL THAT. 
          SO YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLE WE NEED TO LOOK AT REINFORCING IT. 
          IF, IF THE DECISION IS TO GO WITH THAT AND IT'S GONNA BE A EITHER WAY WE GO, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME COMPLAINT ABOUT SOMETHING, BUT WHICH, WHICH  MY CONCERN IS WHERE WHERE DOES THIS SPARE, WHERE DO YOU HAVE THIS SPARE TIME TO TO, TO DAMN THE GARBAGE BIN WE'VE TAKEN, WE'VE TAKEN, UH, AND PUT STICKERS ON CANS. 
          TELL THEM YOU CANNOT USE THIS. 
          CAN WE GO BACK OUT THE NEXT MONTH? THE STICKER GONE, THE CAN'S STILL THERE, SO WE ANOTHER STICKER ON THERE NEXT MONTH WE GO OUT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW HOW TO FIX THAT. 
          WHO MAKE, WHO MAKES PUT THE WHOLE CAN IN THE TRUCK. 
          WELL WE DO THAT TOO. 
          OR IF THEY HAVE DONE THAT, THEN WE GET A PHONE CALL. 
          YOU THREW AWAY MY CAN, SO NOW YOU OWE ME A CAN. 
          I PREFER WE DO A DRIVE BY. 
          WE END UP, WHAT DO WE DO? JUST DON'T PICK IT UP. 
          WE END UP BUYING A CAN. 
          NO, WE DON'T BUY 'EM A CAN WE TELL 'EM THAT? WE TELL 'EM WE TAG THAT CAN IT WAS ILLEGAL. 
          YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT 'EM A DIFFERENT ONE. 
          SO IF, IS IT NOTED IT GETS BACK TO THAT CUSTOMER EXPECTATION, CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVEL AND IF WE CAN FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT, UH, LIKE IN IN SHORE WE'VE MADE THAT TRANSITION FROM GOING TO BAGS TO CANISTERS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BLOW BACK AT FIRST, BUT THE REALITY WAS IS IT ENDED UP BEING EASIER AND MORE EFFICIENT TO GO TO A SINGLE TIP CART. 
          IF THEY WANTED TO RUN A SECOND, THEY COULD DO SO AND THEN GO INTO THE SIDE PICKUP AND IT CAUGHT THAT THE PROVIDER AT THAT TIME SAW A COST SAVING OR A COST A MARGIN INCREASE OF ALMOST 30%. 
          AND I THINK IMMEDIATELY WE SHOULD STOP PICKING UP THE HEAVY TRASH FROM APARTMENTS AND STUFF THAT ARE NOT PAYING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THAT SHOULD WE IS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. 
          WE WERE, WE WERE OBVIOUSLY JUST EVERYBODY, WHEN EVERYBODY START PAYING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND, AND ACTUALLY EMPLOYEE OVER THERE COME UP WITH IS FOUR $3 AND 33 CENTS A MONTH WOULD BE $10 A WEEK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT SHOULD PICK IT UP TWICE A WEEK. 
          THE RATE WOULD BE $43 33 CENTS. 
          WHAT WERE YOU SAYING, JOHN, ABOUT YOUR SOMEBODY? WELL WE WERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT AND, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF THE, WE WERE ASKING JUST BRAINSTORMING HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THE SAVING THIS AND, AND ACTUALLY THINK, THINK, UH, COLONEL, SHE GOES, WHY ARE WE PICKING UP HEAVY BRUSH FOR APARTMENTS THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO GO OUTSIDE OF US WITH THEIR DUMPSTERS? VALID POINT. 
          I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT, AND SO PASS IT ON AND SAID, NO, WE SHOULDN'T MEET. 
          SO WE'RE ABOUT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO USE US, THEN YOU GOT YOUR, YOUR SUPPLIER CAN PICK UP THAT STUFF TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THE ONLY OTHER, THE ONLY OTHER THING YOU COULD DO DO IS IF THEY, IF THEY'VE DECIDED TO USE SOMEBODY ELSE FOR, FOR, FOR THEIR HOUSEHOLD TRASH, THEN WE SET A RATE FOR HEAVY TRASH PICKUP. 
          BUT WE CHARGE 'EM THAT RATE. 
          I THINK IF THEY DON'T USE IT, THEY DON'T USE IT. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I THINK IF THEY DON'T USE US, THEY DON'T USE US. 
          YEP. 
          BECAUSE THEN YOU GET INTO, WE HAVE A RAIN FOR, FOR A LOAD, RIGHT? LIKE IF SOMEBODY GOT AN 800 POUND LOAD OUT THERE, WE CHARGE EM. 
          IF IT'S AN OVERSIZED LOAD, WE HAVE ONE OF THE GUYS THAT HEAVY BRUSH CREW GO BY IT AND SIZE IT AND THEN HE TAGS THE, HE HE PUTS THE TAG ON THE DOOR WITH THE COST AND IT TELLS THE TAG TELLS THEM THEY GOTTA PAY THAT. 
          WELL THE ONES, THE ONES THAT ARE USING OUR TRASH PICKUP. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH IT. 
          TAG PAY IT, WE GET A WORK ORDER SET HAVE YOU PILE AND PAY FOR IT, THEN WE GO PICK IT UP. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE USING IN OUR TRAFFIC. 
          BUT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE RATE. 
          DO YOU WANT US TO GO HIGHER THAN THE 15%? RIGHT NOW IT'S 25. 
          IT'S LIKE $25 AND SOME CHANGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          24, 24 0 9 
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PLUS SALES TAX ON, AND YOU'RE GETTING, AND I'M, AND THIS IS GOING TO 27 71 PLUS SEVEN THAT'S ON THERE. 
          BUT THIS IS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS OR RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU LIKE, RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TOO, IS WHEN WE MODEL THE RATES RIGHT NOW ON THE WATER, ON THE WATER SIDE BASE RATE SPACE RATE FOR EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW ON THE, ON THE GARBAGE SIDE, IF YOU'RE A SMALL BUSINESS THAT'S USING A CANISTER, YOU'RE PAYING THE SAME RATE FOR YOUR COMMERCIAL PICKUP AS YOU ARE AT YOUR HOUSE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S 25 BUCKS AND A CHANGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO LIKE, LIKE JEFF SAID, $10 A WEEK IS, IS NOT A BAD PRICE. 
          I WOULDN'T PAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, UH, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO FROM 25 TO 40 THOUGH, THAT THAT'S GONNA GET, WE ARE GONNA GET SOME, WELL, I MEAN, HEY, THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          30. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, HERE'S THE THING. 
          WE'VE GOT TO, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME INVESTMENT MONEY IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY IN THE BUSINESS, WE GOTTA HAVE SOME INVESTMENT MONEY TO BUY THE NEW EQUIPMENT. 
          WE GOTTA HAVE, WE GOT, OUR COSTS ARE GOING UP. 
          SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, IT, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT THE $27 WILL COVER WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          MM. 
          NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT IS A MISTAKE ON OUR PART THAT WE HAVEN'T WENT UP . 
          WE, I I RELATE TO THAT BECAUSE I'M DEALING WITH IT IN MY BUSINESS. 
          BUT THE FACT IS WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. 
          IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          SO EITHER WE CAN GO UP AND WE CAN, WE'RE GO OUT TO DEAL WITH SOME SETBACK OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ELSE. 
          WHO KNOWS, ONE LESS TRIP TO WHATABURGER, YOU CAN PAY YOUR GARBAGE BILL. 
          UH, THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY NO GOOD CHOICE. 
          MOST PEOPLE THINK I WOULD SAVE, BUT IT'S CALLED A BUDGET. 
          I WON'T GO THERE. 
          BUT AT ANY RATE, WHEN DO WE GO UP ENOUGH TO BE EVEN AT A BREAK EVEN? SO, UH, $34 IS WHAT WE ESTIMATE THE COST TO BE. 
          BE AT A BREAKEVEN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I DON'T SEE WHY COMMERCIALS ARE PAYING THE SAME AS RESIDENTIAL. 
          I DON'T EITHER. 
          WELL, I'LL SAY IT. 
          MY BUSINESS, I'M GETTING THE SAME CANISTER AS A RESIDENTIAL. 
          LIKE MY, MY GARBAGE CAN IS THE SAME ONE THAT YOU THAT A RESIDENTIAL CAN FOR THEIR HOUSE. 
          WE INHERITED. 
          JUST CURIOUS GUESS THE GARBAGE CAN GARBAGE. 
          IT'S NOT A DUMPSTER, IT'S A CAN. 
          SOMETHING LARGER THAN A CAN. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR ROUTE BOOK, YOU'RE ACTUALLY, I MEAN IT IS A GARBAGE CAN, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME ROUTE. 
          LIKE WE HAVE A STANDARD ROUTE THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE NOT ALL IN THE LINE. 
          THEY WORKING IN PARKING LOT. 
          THEY'RE WORKING BEHIND. 
          THEY'RE WORKING. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT DUMPERS ARE, ARE THEY DETERMINE WHAT DAYS OF THE WEEK? IT WAS TUESDAY, THURSDAY, MONDAY, FRIDAY. 
          MONDAY. 
          DID YOU DO THERE TWICE? SATURDAY? UH, THAT'S WHEN THE DUMPSTER DO WE KNOW WHAT IT COST US TO RUN GARBAGE LAST YEAR? LAST YEAR. 
          UH, HOLD ON. 
          LOOKING AT $2 MILLION INVESTMENT. 
          FOUR NEW TRUCKS AT AT LEAST FOUR NEW TRUCKS. 
          WELL THAT WAS, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT PLUS FOUR DRIVERS. 
          WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME DRIVERS, WE HAVE FOUR DRIVERS. 
          WE HAVE SOME DRIVERS. 
          BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO TO, TO MAINTAIN THE BUSINESS, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT AT LEAST FOUR NEW TRUCKS. 
          WELL, SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE IN THAT THE SIDE LOADERS ARE, ARE, ARE FAIRLY NEW. 
          ONE OF THE SIDE LOADERS RECEIVED. 
          AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE FOUR NEW TRUCKS. 
          YES. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW OUR BIGGEST AREA WHERE WE'RE, UH, BEHIND IS THE, THE REAR LOADERS, THE UH, RED TRACK. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN A SILO THAT WE RECEIVED 0.9 LAST YEAR. 
          ROCK PAYS FOR 2.3 THIS YEAR. 
          ARE THOSE GONNA GO TO THOSE, ARE THOSE GONNA BE SIDE LOADERS TOO? TWO, TWO FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL? OR ARE THEY GONNA BE 1 1 9? WELL, HOW CLOSE TO, WELL, HOW ARE YOU GONNA PUT, HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET THE TRASH CANS? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH ONE YOU GO WITH. 
          IF YOU GO WITH THE REAR OR IF YOU GO, WE LOOK AT THE OPTION TO PICKING UP THE SIDE, PICK UP ON THE DUMP ON THE CANS. 
          IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD, YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO PLUS THE CANS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MAYBE ONE, ONE REAR AND ONE SIDE ONE OF EACH. 
          OR IF YOU DO SO LIKE THAT, THEN YOU CAN PUSH YOUR AREA OUT. 
          YOU MAKE CERTAIN AREAS JUST PHASE IT IN. 
          YOU MAY BE, YOU TAKE THIS PART OF TOWN AND I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, A $2 MILLION INVESTMENT, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE PHASED DOWN. 
          I DON'T 200, I THINK YOU BUDGETED TWO 50 IN THE, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NO MECHANICAL. 
          THAT'S STILL HAND, THAT'S STILL HAND FILLED. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S STILL HAND FILLED. 
          YES. 
          THE OTHER ONE I WANT TO SAY WE, WE, I THINK IT WAS AROUND 3 3 85. 
          3 85 FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT SAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO A $2 MILLION INVESTMENT FOR FOUR NEW TRUCKS. 
          YES. 
          SOMEWHERE IN THAT VICINITY. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU DO THE, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE INCREASE AND THERE'S GONNA BE INCREASE REGARDLESS OF SMALLER INCREASE, A LARGER INCREASE, WHATEVER THE INCREASE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE TO DO SOME, SOME PUBLIC RELATIONS SOMEHOW AND JUST SAY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE OUTSOURCE, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING A SMALL LITTLE, CAN WE ONLY PICK UP THE CAN? EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND IT 
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DOESN'T GET PICKED UP. 
          YOU GOTTA HAUL IT OFF YOURSELF. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST PUBLICIZE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING VERSUS A THIRD PARTY. 
          UH, JUST SO PEOPLE CAN APPRECIATE THE VALUE. 
          AND THEN MAYBE EXPLAIN IT IN THE $10 A WEEK OR $8 A WEEK OR, I MEAN, WELL, I THINK, I THINK IF THERE ALSO, WE NEED TO RECON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT DIDN'T I JUST HEAR YOU SAY ONE PICKUP FROM ONE PRIVATE COMPANY IS $31 A MONTH. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ONCE A MONTH, ONE PICK ONE PICKUP ONLY IN YOUR, CAN I SAY ONE PICKUP? ONE PICKUP, $31 A MONTH. 
          I THINK IT ALSO GETS BACK TO RECONDITIONING OR RESETTING THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA PICK EVERY SINGLE THING UP BECAUSE WELL, HOWEVER YOU PUT THAT PR TOGETHER. 
          YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING YOU COMPARE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING VERSUS WHAT YOU WOULD GET WITH THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDER, WHICH WOULD NOT BE AS AS GOOD. 
          LET'S SEE, WHAT'S OUR ORDINANCE SAY RIGHT NOW AS FAR, IS THERE A LIMIT ON TRASH CANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? YES, THERE IS. 
          THERE IS. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS, IS EVERYBODY HAS GOTTEN SO ACCUSTOMED AND WE'VE GOTTEN SO ACCUSTOMED TO PROVIDING THAT SERVICE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE JUST, WE, IT'S CROSS CONDITION. 
          WE JUST NEED TO GET STRICTER ON THAT. 
          THEY SET THEIR EXPECTATIONS HERE. 
          WE'VE LIVED UP TO 'EM. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT AIN'T EQUATE $7 AND 15 EXCEPT ROOF TRASH, TRASH. 
          NO, I MEAN, I, I'VE SEEN SIX TRASH CANS OUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          LIKE ONE THAT'S NOT FAR FROM 10 A WEEK. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING 15%. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S ENOUGH. 
          NOW, IF, IF WE RAISE GARBAGE, IS THAT ALSO, IS IT DOUBLING WITH SEWER? 'CAUSE ISN'T IT THE SAME THING WITH GARBAGE? NO, NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, YOU'RE THINKING OF WATER. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO YEAH. 
          SO THE WATER RATE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING A, A BASE LEVEL INCREASE IS 7.5, WHICH ACTUALLY EQUATES TO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE FIGURE THERE ON THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU EQUATES TO WHAT IS A NET AVERAGE 10% INCREASE IN TOTAL BILLING. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT, SO WE WOULD BE GOING UP ON THE WATER BILL, GARBAGE BILL. 
          BOTH OF 'EM COME ON THE SAME BILL. 
          THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE TO BRING BOTH RATES UP NO MATTER WHAT. 
          THEY'RE GONNA SEE A BIG HIT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE AVERAGE BILL BE? SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BLUE LINE THERE AT THE BOTTOM. 
          1 0 1 36 IS YOUR AVERAGE BILLING BASED ON CONSUMPTION IN THE CITY THIS YEAR. 
          BLUE LINE. 
          OH, I SEE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE IT NOW. 
          THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I PAY RIGHT NOW. 
          I KNOW. 
          I, 'CAUSE SAY IT'S NOT MUCH HIGHER THAN, WHAT IS LAKE JACKSON'S SURGERY? LAKE JACKSON'S SCAR RETREAT WAS 27 AND 34. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS 27 SOMETHING. 
          IT WAS 27. 
          THEY'RE RAISING IT, I DON'T KNOW BY HOW MUCH THEY WERE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE IT, BUT THEY WERE, I THINK IT WAS IN THE PAPER TODAY. 
          YESTERDAY. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER THEY USED PRIVATE. 
          IT WAS YESTERDAY. 
          NO, NO. 
          THEY'RE INTERNAL AS WELL. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          AND, AND WE'RE KIND OF TWO PEAS IN A POD DOWN HERE. 
          UH, I WILL SAY I WILL GIVE LAKE JACKSON CREDIT. 
          THEY'VE HAD OUR BACK. 
          WE'VE HAD THEIR BACK WHEN WE'VE HAD NEEDS. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE THE LAST TWO SOLE CITY PROVIDERS IN OUR REGION, WHICH PUTS US AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE HAVE A CLOSE LANDFILL, BUT WE DON'T CONTROL THAT LANDFILL. 
          AND SO WE'RE SUBJECT TO THE WHIMS OF BASICALLY OUR PRIMARY COMPETITOR IN THE MARKET. 
          LIKE JACKSON DOES HAVE A BRUSH LANDFILL, CORRECT? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY HANDLE THEIR BRUSH THERE. 
          AND THE ANSWER WAS NO. 
          I'LL HAVE A ROLL OFF WHERE THEY, YOU CAN BRING STUFF TO THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IF YOU GET WITH THE TIMES THEY, MAYBE WE PHASE IT IN YEAH. 
          AS WE GO. 
          BUT LIKE WE'RE SAYING, WHEN DO WE DO THAT? DO WE? YEAH. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE WHAT IF WE MAKE IT A RASH, IRRATIONAL DECISION, GET RID OF IT, THEN THAT'S DONE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IF, IF YOU, IF IT'S DECIDED THAT WE GO FORWARD LOOKING AT HOW WE, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE THE RATES. 
          BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT HOW WE DO IT, DO THE WORK, AND WE NEED TO DO IT MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT OVER TIME PEOPLE WILL APPRECIATE THAT. 
          HOPEFULLY. 
          I MEAN, WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO PUT SOME FIGHT INTO THE RULES TO WHERE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE THROWING STUFF OUT THERE OUTSIDE. 
          I WAS JUST ABOUT BET YOU THAT IF I PUT MY TRASH AND MY PICKUP AND HAULED IT TO SEA BREEZE TO DUMP IT, THAT THEY WOULD CHARGE ME $5 EVERY TIME I WENT OUT THERE AT LEAST. 
          NO, IT'S CUBIC YARD. 
          IF IT'S IN THE, WELL SAY, BUT IF I JUST TOOK A, IF I JUST TOOK A BUY TWO I, ONE TO TWO TRASH BAGS THAT I HAVE EVERY, EVERY TIME THEY PICK UP MY TRASH, IF I PUT IT IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK, HAUL IT SEA BREEZE, I BET THEY CHARGE ME AT LEAST FIVE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. 
          NO, IT WOULD BE CUBIC YARDS AT THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK, WHETHER IT'S FULL OR NOT. 
          REALLY? YES, SIR. 
          IF I TAKE A MOTOR HOME OR AN RV OUT THERE, IT'S CUBIC YARDS OF HOLLOW SPACE INSIDE COST ME 680 SOMETHING DOLLARS TO GET RID OF A JUNK CAMPER THAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN TOWED AWAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU PUT THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK, YOU MIGHT AS WELL FILL IT UP. 
          YEAH, IT MIGHT WELL COLLECTED FOR, FOR THREE MONTHS, HUH? YEAH. 
          SO, AND THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. 
          FORMALLY. 
          IT'S WEIGHTAGE, THEY WEIGH YOU. 
          WHEN YOU COME IN. 
          THEY WEIGH YOU. 
          WHEN YOU GO OUT HERE, IT'S ACTUALLY 
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QIC YARDAGE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT LEADS TO BRUSH BRICKS COST, CUIC YARD TRUCK. 
          WE TAKE IT IN THERE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE YOU FOR THAT, THAT YARDAGE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT BUSINESS MODEL OF THAT. 
          OH, IT'S BRILLIANT. 
          THERE'S NO WEIGHING, THERE'S NO, IT'S, YEAH, NO, IT'S A BRILLIANT BUSINESS MODEL ON THEIR PART. 
          BUT MAN, IT KILLS US. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU GO IN WITH A HALF FULL TRUCK OR A FULL TRUCK, YOU'RE PAYING THE SAME PRICE. 
          WELL, I DON'T WANNA BE BROKEN RECORD, BUT IF WASTE CONNECTIONS IS PICKING UP COMMERCIAL, DO THEY PAY LANDFILL? NO. 
          NO. 
          SO I MEAN, WE COULDN'T COMPETE WITH THEM 'CAUSE WE'RE PAYING FOR LANDFILL, BUT THEY DON'T. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S, AND THAT DOESN'T, CAN WE PUT THAT IN THEIR CONTRACT SOMEWHERE? WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, WHEN WE, WHEN I, IN MY INITIAL DISCUSSION, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I TRIED TO POINT OUT IS, IS THERE'S A SUNK COST FALLACY WITH THEIR MODEL BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S JUST OVERHEAD TO THEM. 
          SO THEY'RE ABLE TO BUY DOWN, THEY DON'T PAY THEMSELVES FOR TIPPING. 
          THEY MAY CHARGE, THERE MAY BE AN INTERNAL LIGHT ITEM, BUT THEIR ACTUAL COST OF OPERATION IS LOWER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL CHARGE. 
          WHERE ARE THEIR TRUCKS THAT I WOULD THINK THEIR TRUCKS WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE FARTHER THAN OUR TRUCKS. 
          NO, THEY HAVE A YARD THERE. 
          THEY HAVE A TRUCK. 
          THEY HAVE ABOUT 15 TRUCKS. 
          20 TRUCKS RIGHT OUT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          AND THAT'S, SO YOU'VE GOT ANGLETON, FREEPORT, SURFSIDE, OYSTER CREEK, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS EITHER THEM OR ANOTHER PROVIDER. 
          WE'RE ON AN ISLAND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, WELL, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE WELL, I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET YOU THAT IF WE WENT TO PRIVATE, THAT WE'D FILL CITY HALL UP. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF PRIVATE. 
          NO. 
          SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO PUT A GAME PLAN TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE FEASIBLE AND COST EFFECTIVE. 
          AND YEAH. 
          THIS, THIS ISSUE JUST IS COVER OUR COSTS, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE. 
          I THINK I REALLY DO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          15% IS IN THERE. 
          I JUST, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL MODEL IT HIGHER AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU, UM, AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          DO IT AT LIKE 30, 35 AND 40 SO WE CAN SEE WHEN YOU SAY 35 AND FOUR, 30, $30 A MONTH FOR, FOR THE GARBAGE SERVICE. 
          35 OR 40. 
          YES. 
          I JUST THINK 40 IS GONNA BE TOO BIG OF A STEP WHERE THE BREAKEVEN IS 34. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOW, BASED ON THIS, AND THIS YEAR MAY BE AN EXCEPTIONAL YEAR, BUT IT'S BEEN KIND OF TRENDING HIGHER. 
          SO, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, WE TOTAL, OUR TOTAL OPERATIONAL BUDGET, UH, FOR THE YEAR ADOPTED WAS ONE NINE. 
          UH, AS OF JUNE 30, UH, WE WE'RE AT 1.7 WITH BASICALLY THREE MONTHS TO GO. 
          AND THEY'RE HEAVY MONTHS IF WE GET A MM-HMM . 
          HERE'S MY, HERE'S MY QUESTION. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT THE ILLEGAL DUMPSTER, THE ILLEGAL DUMPING IS COSTING THE CITY OF CLEVELAND? JUST A WILD GIFT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON, IS IT 50,000, 60,000, 70,000? PROBABLY, PROBABLY. 
          BUT THEN YOU, BUT BY NOT WHAT IT MIGHT BE WORTH HIRING SOMEBODY TO DRIVE AROUND THE DUMP PEOPLE ILLEGAL DUMPING, I WOULD SAY. 
          UH, YOU'VE GOT A A, AN AMALGAM THERE. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST GOING AND DUMPING STUFF. 
          WE'RE USUALLY ABLE TO FIND THAT PILE AND IDENTIFY THAT INDIVIDUAL. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE DUMPSTER FREE RIDERS. 
          THE DIVERS, OR DUMPSTER OR DUMPSTERS. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE FREE RIDERS THAT'LL GO BY. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS CITY, WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN THE FIFTIES, NOBODY GAVE ANY THOUGHT TO SANITATION BEING SECURED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO YOU'VE GOT MAKESHIFT ENCLOSURES THAT ARE PRETTY EASILY DEFEATED. 
          I'VE SEEN PEOPLE GROWN THROUGH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX FROM WHO'VE GOTTEN WHERE THEY DO THE SAME THING AT THE SPCA WITH ANIMALS, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. 
          THEY DRIVE UP THERE AND THROW 'EM OVER THE GATE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. 
          AND SO, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF LEGITIMATE CUSTOMERS ARE PAYING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO BE ABLE TO DUMP INTO THEIR DUMPSTER. 
          WELL, I MEAN, WE ALL ARE. 
          EVERYBODY THAT PAYS THE TRACTOR, NO, PAY IT FOR THEM, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          TO ME, THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE HEAVY, THE HEAVY DUMPSTER CONSTRUCTION STUFF. 
          I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY THROWS A SACK OF GARBAGE IN YOURS OR SOMEBODY'S DUMPSTER, I GET THAT'S ILLEGAL DUMPING. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, BUT JUST HELP DOES THAT, THAT COST EFFECT IS NOT THE SAME AS COMING OVER AND DUMPING A, A HALF A HOUSE FULL OF RECONSTRUCTION FROM SOME OTHER TOWN OR FROM ANOTHER TOWN. 
          SOME RENTAL SUBCONTRACT DUMP, MOVING OUT AND LEAVING ALL THEIR CRAP IN THEIR HOUSE. 
          AND THEN THE OWNER JUST PUTS IT ALL OUT ON THE ROAD. 
          IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          TWO PEOPLE ARE PICKING UP CANS AND IT TAKES AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE TO PICK UP BULK TRASH ON SIDE. 
          I THINK PROBABLY FOUR. 
          BUT, UH, THE COST EFFECTIVE IN THAT TAKE TWO DRIVER, TAKE TWO DRIVERS AND OPERATOR. 
          SO AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE. 
          DID WE JUST ASSUME THAT PICKING UP BRUSH AND DEBRIS WAS JUST PART OF TRASH? OR IS THAT KIND OF A SEPARATE DEAL THAT WE, THAT WAS, IF YOU RECALL, THAT HAPPENED. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S BEEN ONGOING AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE WHERE WE'VE COMBINED THE TWO, WE ACTUALLY, I'VE DEALT WITH MY SHERIFF. 
          YES. 
          PEOPLE FUSSING WITH TREES THAT THEY PILED OUT AND BRUSHED. 
          BUT 
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SOMEBODY CUTS A TREE. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER THING. 
          YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME OUT THERE AND CUT YOUR TREE DOWN AND THEY PILE IT OUT THERE BY THE ROAD, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY CHARGING THEM FOR THAT DISPOSAL. 
          WELL, IT COMES EITHER WAY. 
          I FOUND OUT, OUT WE'RE PICKING IT UP. 
          IF THEY DON'T HOMEOWNER, IF THEY DON'T HAUL IT OFF, IT'S ONE FEE. 
          IF THEY DO HAUL IT OFF, IT'S ANOTHER, THEY SIT OUT FRONT, THE CITY WILL PICK UP. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, AND THEN END, WE END UP CHARGING THE HOMEOWNER FOR IT. 
          WE END UP CHARGING THE HOMEOWNER AND THE HOMEOWNER'S UPSET, BUT THE CITY'S A DEAL. 
          Y'ALL HAUL TWO OFF FOR ME AND I'D PAY THE CITY TO DO IT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WELL, THE OTHER THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS ON BRUSH, THEY MAKE YOU CUT IT LIKE A SUPER SMALL SIZES AND CORRECT. 
          BUNDLE IT UP. 
          AND LIKE JOHN SAID, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN OVERLOOKED THAT WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP AND REDO. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, I AGREE. 
          AND MAYBE THE FEES FOR HEAVY TRASH SHOULD BE MORE THAN THE FEES OR REGULAR TRASH. 
          AND I KNOW THAT JUST MAKES THINGS MORE CONFUSING. 
          BUT NO, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A FAIR POINT. 
          AND IT DOES GET BACK TO WHAT MR. DUNCAN SAID. 
          IF YOU LIVE IN A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN, IN HOUSTON, YOUR BUNDLES HAVE TO BE TIGHT. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE TIED, THEY HAVE TO BE OF A CERTAIN THAT IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, I'M GONNA DUMP THIS STUMP OUT THERE AND HOPE THE CITY GRABS IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IN AUSTIN, YOU HAD TO, THEY HAD TO BE WITHIN TWO FEET. 
          LIKE IT WOULD BE SO BIG AROUND, YOU HAD TO TIE IT WITH TWINE, AND THEN YOU HAD TO STOCK THEM WHERE YOU COULDN'T JUST STOCK 'EM IN A PYRAMID. 
          NOPE. 
          THEY HAD TO BE LAID OUT ON THE GRASS AND IT'S A PAIN. 
          BUT PEOPLE END UP COMPLYING. 
          WELL, THEY DO. 
          ONE MORE TIME. 
          IT'S JUST, WE'VE GOTTA CONDITION OUR STAFF AND OUR CUSTOMERS TO EXPECT DIFFERENT, HERE'S, HERE'S THE THING THAT BURNS ME ABOUT THE, THE HEAVY TRASH IS THAT NINE OUT OF 10 OF 'EM JUST THROW IT IN THE DITCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          AND IF WE GET FIVE INCHES OF RAIN, WE GOTTA GO CLEAN IT OUT THERE. 
          OR WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING PHONE CALLS FOR PEOPLE GETTING YEP. 
          WATER, YOU KNOW? YEP. 
          YEP. 
          PEOPLE DON'T USE COMMON SENSE. 
          I MEAN, WHEN I PACK MY TRASH, CAN I PUT THE LIGHT ONE ON THE BOTTOM AND THE HEAVY ONE ON TOP IN CASE THEY GOT, THEY CAN'T PICK THE CAN UP. 
          THEY CAN PICK THE HEAVY ONE UP, THROW IT IN, THEN DUMP THE CAN. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE. 
          I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS WHOLE WORLD IS LACKING THAT EXTREMELY WELL. 
          I THINK WE ALL AGREE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. 
          I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL MAP, DO SOME, DO SOME MODELS ON IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND WE WILL, I MEAN, WE CONSIDER WHAT, I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT A DEFICIT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE'S SOME PHILOSOPHICAL THING. 
          YOU, I MEAN, DO YOU START OKAY, FROM NOW ON, WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT EVERY YEAR SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SHOCK VALUE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU GRAB, SO WE, CAN YOU DO A GRADATION, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND IS THE ONLY MONEY, IS THE ONLY FUND THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY ON. 
          CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          , I'M SHOCKED THAT WE CLOSEST WE ARE, TO BE HONEST. 
          SO, WELL, THAT'S THE TESTAMENT TO THAT MEANT RIGHT THERE MEAN IT'S QUITE OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE INVESTMENT AFTER INVESTMENT, AFTER INVESTMENT IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR FUND BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE, OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE, AND THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT THAT IT TAKES TO DO IT. 
          I THINK AT LEAST OUR CONSENSUS IS THAT WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT. 
          HONESTLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT FORGOT, JUST FIGURE OUT, WELL, WE NEED TO SIT OUT WHATEVER IT TAKES. 
          I DON'T KNOW, HALF NOW, HALF NEXT YEAR. 
          I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT TO GET THERE AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT WELL, SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE NEVER STAGGER A RATE INCREASE, BECAUSE THAT JUST CREATES CONFUSION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'RE GONNA MODEL, WE'LL MODEL OUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE'LL GIVE YOU THREE OPTIONS AND SAY PICK WHICH PICK ONE, ONE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. 
          15 BEING THE BASELINE, 15%. 
          SORRY. 
          LOOK, LOOK AT IT. 
          LOOK AT THE COST OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THE AUTOMATED PART AUTOMATION PART OF IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR INVESTMENT'S GONNA BE. 
          AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT LIKE THE CIP PUT IT ON THREE YEAR PLAN, FOUR YEAR PLAN, FIVE YEAR PLAN. 
          SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANT TO REAL QUICK, JUST WANNA MENTION A COUPLE THINGS. 
          JUST I KNOW SINCE OUR LAST TIME WE MET, UH, SINCE THEN, OUR LEAD AND COPPER SERVICE LINE INVENTORY THAT WE DID, UM, THAT WAS REQUIRED TO BE DONE BY OCTOBER OF, UM, UM, LAST YEAR. 
          AND ALL THAT WAS COMPLETED, TURNED IN AND, AND ACCEPTED. 
          AND WE WERE NOTIFIED ALL THOSE RESIDENTS BACK IN, IN, UH, NOVEMBER. 
          THAT, THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THAT, UH, BY THE RESULTS OF OUR, OUR SURVEY. 
          UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING LETTING COPPER SAMPLING RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR OUR, OUR, BETWEEN JUNE AND SEPTEMBER. 
          WE'RE DUE TO DO THOSE THIS YEAR. 
          HOPEFULLY AFTER THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE ON A, UM, THREE MONTH ROTATION TO WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE TO GO ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS. 
          SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OTHER HIGHLIGHTS THAT, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY MORE TIME AS THE, THE WATER REPORT 
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THAT CAME OUT, UH, THE CCR TWO, THREE WEEKS AGO, THE CCR REPORT, THAT'S A REQUIRED REPORT THAT WE HAVE TO TURN OUT EVERY YEAR. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT DONE IN HOUSE OR IS THAT DONE THROUGH ONE OF THE AGENCIES? WE, WE DO THAT ON PART OF THE, UH, TEXAS WATER WATCH SITE. 
          WE GO IN THERE AND WE GENERATE THE REPORT AND WE MAKE SURE EVERYTHING ON THE REPORT IS SUPPOSED WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          UM, WE HAD, UH, B W'S REPORT ON THERE AS WELL, IF THERE'S ANY NOTATIONS, I THINK INCLUDED ON THAT, WE HAD TO ADD THE PORTION ABOUT THE LEAD AND COPPER INVENTORY THAT WAS ADDED THIS YEAR. 
          UH, THOSE ARE REQUIRED TO BE DONE AND MAILED TO RESIDENTS BY JULY 1ST. 
          WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, THAT THAT'S DONE IN HOUSE, THE NOT PART OF WE, WE DO FEES OR ANY OF THAT. 
          AND THEN WE, WE TAKE IT DOWN TO DETAIL AND THEY ACTUALLY PUT IT ALL, ALL THE, UH, DEALS AND THEN WE MAIL 'EM OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE PREPARE A REPORT THAT COST THE COST WOULD MAILED THEM OUT. 
          IS IN YOUR BUDGET AS WELL? YES. 
          THAT, THAT IS BUDGET IN THAT AREA THERE. 
          AND IT'S LISTED. 
          IT MAY NOT BE OUT MY EYES. 
          IT'S IN, IN POSTAGE. 
          THAT PART OF THE DUES. 
          IT IS PART, IT IS PART OF THAT, UH, FEE IN THERE. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S A ROUND THREE JASON, SO Y'ALL CAN START JUST SENDING ME ONE. 
          WE START SENDING YOU ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          I GOT, I GOT TWO SERVICES, BUT YOU CAN ONLY SEND ME ONCE I SAVE. 
          YOU SAVE. 
          SO WE TRY, WE TRY TO WEED OUT THE DOUBLE ONES. 
          SAVING YOUR SAVE YOURSELF ONCE NOW WE SAVE SOME MONEY THERE. 
          WE'RE SAVING MONEY THERE. 
          THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR PART ONE. 
          IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK OR WE CAN WALK STRAIGHT. 
          THAT WAS A LOT TO ABSORB, SO. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. 
          WELL, I DON'T THINK APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND, AND, UH, IT ALSO ALLOW ME TO GO FIRST. 
          SO WELL WISH YOUR MOM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY FROM ALL OF US. 
          PLEASE. 
          WE'VE GOT 35 OF US WILL MAKE YOU TO HER. 
          OH, THAT'S AWESOME. 
          ALL MEETING. 
          WELL, Y'ALL DON'T, DON'T OVERWHELM HER AT HER AGE, BUT SHE, WE SURPRISED HER LAST YEAR AND SHE LIKED THAT. 
          SHE SAID. 
          SO WE'RE ALL GONNA GO BACK THERE THIS YEAR. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          WELL, ENJOY. 
          WELL, YOU HAVE A GOOD TRIP AND THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR ALL THE WORK. 
          THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          Y'ALL SUPPORT THIS SITUATION SOUNDED DIRE, BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE WITHOUT JOHN, HOW MUCH WORSE IT BE? UH, IT'S NOT ME. 
          IT'S, IT IS, IT IS. 
          ALL THOSE. 
          WELL, AND YOUR CREW, ALL THAT GROUP OVER THERE, THEY, THEY, WE ALL SEEM TO WORK TOGETHER REAL WELL. 
          AND, UH, EVERYBODY GETS ALONG, UH, WHICH IS A BLESSING. 
          WELL, WE'RE THANKFUL. 
          THANKFUL FOR ALL OF Y'ALL. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          BE SAFE. 
          HAVE FUN TODAY. 
          SORRY. 
          UH, SO YOU GUYS, DETECTIVE BUR OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START, UH, PART TWO OF OUR PRESENTATION. 
          PART TWO INCLUDES, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND, UH, EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE GENERAL, GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS ALWAYS THE CLOSER AND USUALLY EVERYBODY'S ASLEEP BY THE TIME WE GET THERE. 
          SO, UH, AS MAYOR NOTED, NOT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT MORE YOU'RE GOOD. 
          IS IT THIS, DOES IT MATTER? OKAY. 
          NO, IT'S OKAY. 
          REMIND LENA TOO. 
          CLOSE'S MY PHONE TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE, UH, POLICE IS BASICALLY HELD STEADY. 
          UH, WE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY IMMINENT NEED AND THERE'S GONNA BE PRESSURE COMING. 
          UH, WELL, IT MAY ALREADY BE HERE. 
          IN TERMS OF COMPETITIVENESS IN THE MARKET FOR OFFICERS, UH, THE CITY OF HOUSTON SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED THEIR BASE PAY THIS PAST YEAR, UH, THAT WE'RE SEEING A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT. 
          IT'S AT MANVILLE, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          AND WE WILL SEE THAT PRESSURE JUST LIKE A WAVE MOVING SOUTH. 
          SO, UH, WE CAN EXPECT TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME MOVES THERE, UH, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE TO TRY AND MAKE SURE WE'RE REMAINING COMPETITIVE. 
          UM, CHIEF, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR MAJOR CHANGES? REALLY, THERE'S MAJOR CHANGES. 
          THE BUDGET IN, IN GENERAL WENT DOWN. 
          UH, WE ARE ASKING THE, I GUESS THE ONLY MAJOR THING WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR IS THE THREE VEHICLES. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THE TAHOES JUST HAVE NOT LASTED. 
          UH, WE ARE SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ON MAINTENANCE OF THOSE AND FIXING THE ISSUES. 
          SOME, BUT WE'VE DONE MORE WARRANTY WORK THAN WE HAVE, EVEN HAVING 'EM FIXED. 
          UM, WE HAVE TRANSITIONED TO THE FORDS, NOT, NOT 'CAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE TAHOES. 
          IT'S JUST WHAT YOU CAN GET. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE TRUCKS BEFORE THIS TIME. 
          THE, THE FORD, UH, P IUS. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL PROBABLY STAY WITH UNLESS TOYOTA STARTS MAKING A POLICE VEHICLE THAN WE MAY, UM, TRANSITION THERE. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE 
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THOSE VEHICLES TO WHERE WE CAN GET RID OF THESE THAT ARE, ARE COSTING US, UH, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, UH, WORK WITH JOHN AND TO MAKE SURE BETWEEN OUR TWO STAFFS, WE'RE STAYING ON SOME OF THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE TO, TO KEEP THOSE UP AND GOING. 
          UH, THE THE PROBLEM IS, IS JUST THE WAY POLICE VEHICLES, NOT JUST HERE, BUT EVERYWHERE ARE DRIVEN MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND, AND YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE. 
          UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET THAT, UM, I ACTUALLY ASKED TO, TO BE TAKEN OUT. 
          CJ WAS NICE ENOUGH TO LEAVE THEM IN, BUT I EXPECT THEM TO BE TAKEN OUT AND US FIND OTHER WAYS TO PAY FOR THEM. 
          UH, THE RADARS AND THE SWAT KITS, UM, I'M GOING TO TRY TO PURCHASE THOSE. 
          I'M, I'M GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT TO MAKE SURE, BUT SEE WHAT I CAN, UH, BUY OUT OF THE, UH, DRUG FORFEITURE FUND. 
          I LEAVE TOMORROW TO GO TO A CONFERENCE TO WHERE I WILL PRESENT, UH, TO TRY TO GET THE GRANT FOR THE LICENSE PLATE READERS. 
          SO IF I'M ABLE TO GET ALL THAT OUT, THAT'LL ACTUALLY REDUCE US DOWN ANOTHER 174,000 OUT OF OUR BUDGET. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, NOT SPEND ANYTHING EXTRA. 
          UM, THE ONE THING THAT THE, I, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THE BIGGEST ASK WAS, WAS FOR THE SECOND CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, WITH TALKING DURING BREAK, THAT I THINK THAT THE THING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT, AND, AND I'M NOT TALKING BAD ABOUT ANYBODY PREVIOUS, BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT'S WHERE IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LAST PROBABLY 15, 20 YEARS OF LACK OF ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND NOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO SOME OF THOSE AND GET WHERE WE ARE, UM, IT, IT, IT IS JUST, UM, A, A MUCH BIGGER DEAL. 
          BOTH, UM, MY FIRE MARSHAL IS ALSO CERTIFIED CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO HE HELPS OUT WHERE HE CAN, MY ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL WILL BE GOING TO CODE ENFORCEMENT SCHOOL, THE ADMIN THAT ASSIST WITH ALL THAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY SEND HER TO CODE ENFORCEMENT SCHOOL TO WHERE SHE HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF THAT AS WELL, UM, TO KIND OF HAVE THAT, UH, FORCE MULTIPLIER IN THAT WAY. 
          AND THEN HOPEFULLY MIDYEAR BE ABLE TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON TO, TO KIND OF GO AT THESE THINGS. 
          UM, AND TRYING TO CLEAN UP, UH, THOSE, THOSE DEALS. 
          BUT QUITE HONESTLY, WE JUST DON'T, WE ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MUCH THIS YEAR. 
          UH, WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AFTER THE, EVEN THE CIP MEETINGS, I TOLD CJ THAT WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BUILDING, WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE GOTTA DO. 
          JUST BECAUSE I CAN'T, WITH GOOD CONSCIOUS ASK THE CITIZENS FOR OUR NEW BUILDING WHEN WE NEED THEIR WATER AND THEIR SEWERS FIXED. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO, TO CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE GOT AND, UH, AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          I DO WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK Y'ALL, UM, AGAIN, FOR SEEING OUR NEEDS WHEN IT CAME TO PERSONNEL, WHEN IT CAME TO THE, TO THE SALARIES AND BEING COMPETITIVE. 
          UM, AGAIN, KNOCKING ON WOOD, I HAVEN'T LOST AN OFFICER SINCE MAY OF 20, I MEAN MARCH OF 24. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BUILT SOMETHING OVER THERE PERSONNEL WISE. 
          NOT JUST MONEY, BUT I THINK, UM, WITH MORALE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE DOWN THAT ROAD. 
          I, I'M NOT TOO TERRIBLY CONCERNED YET ABOUT THAT WAVE COMING FROM HOUSTON. 
          UM, MAMBA IS, IS TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT THEY, THEY REALIZE THEY CAN'T TURN IT OVER IN A DAY. 
          THE KIND OF THINGS THAT HOUSTON DID, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THAT'S CRAZY MONEY THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSTON, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT, WE'LL, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA COMPETE WITH SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, IT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE THAT FLOW. 
          BUT I'M, I'M, I'M PROUD OF MY FOLKS. 
          WE'VE HAD A VERY TOUGH WEEK. 
          UM, I HADN'T GOTTEN A LOT OF SLEEP IN THE LAST SEVEN, EIGHT DAYS, UM, BUT MY FOLKS HAVE TAKEN CARE OF BUSINESS AND DONE THINGS RIGHT AND, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH, WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE 
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EVERYTHING. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF VEHICLES. 
          I KNOW WE'VE GOT THREE THIS YEAR. 
          WE BOUGHT TWO THREE LAST YEAR. 
          DO WE NEED, WE, WE GOT THREE LAST YEAR. 
          WE WERE ASKING FOR THREE THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, THAT WILL PRETTY MUCH PHASE OUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE JUST COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY. 
          HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ALL THE, THE THREE FROM LAST YEAR? YES, SIR. 
          THE, THE, UH, THE FORDS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET MUCH QUICKER. 
          UH, AND WE WERE THE TILES IN ADDITION, AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THE BREAK AS WELL DURING OUR PAINT SCHEME. 
          UM, WE'VE GONE, Y'ALL NOTICED PROBABLY THAT WE'VE GONE TO THE SOLID BLACK, AND PART OF THAT IS, IS WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE BLACK VEHICLES QUICKER THAN WE CAN GET THE WHITE VEHICLES. 
          AND BECAUSE MOST DEPARTMENTS USE WHITE VEHICLES, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DONE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET 'EM QUICKER AND GET 'EM ON THE ROAD. 
          I LIKE THE BLACK ONES. 
          I DO TOO. 
          I REALLY LIKE THE LIGHT SYSTEM, THE PACKAGE THAT Y'ALL HAVE NOW. 
          AND WHERE THE OTHER THING THAT IS IMPROVED IS THE UPFITTER THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE'VE BEEN USING. 
          UM, THEY HAVE OPENED UP ANOTHER LOCATION IN SANTA FE, WHICH GETS THEM A LITTLE CLOSER THAN US BEING, HAVING TO GO TO HOUSTON. 
          AND THEIR SANTA FE LOCATION IS SUPPOSED TO GEAR MORE TOWARDS THE SMALLER AGENCIES TO HELP US OUT. 
          BECAUSE BUSINESS IS BUSINESS AND HOUSTON PD HARRIS COUNTY P UH, SOS USING THAT SAME COMPANY. 
          AND LET'S FACE IT, IF THEY'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, 300 VEHICLES TO OUR THREE, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE 300 VEHICLES FIRST. 
          WE GET PUSHED TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. 
          THE SANTA FE LOCATION THAT THEY'VE OPENED UP SHOULD HELP THE SMALLER AGENCIES GET THEIR STUFF A LITTLE QUICKER AS WELL. 
          CHIEF ON THE, ON THE RADARS, IS THAT THE RADARS THAT YOU CAN MOVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR CORRECT. 
          THOSE, THOSE, THE RADAR, THE RADARS ARE, IT'S, IT'S THAT, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. 
          IT'S MONITORING. 
          THOSE WILL ASSIST NOT JUST US, BUT THEY'LL HELP, UM, JOHN AND PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY EVEN IN THE CIP OF SHOWING WHERE THE MOST OF OUR TRAFFIC IS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, THEY DO NOT, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT I CALL THE SEXY THINGS THAT YOU PUT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SPEED TRAILER, WHATEVER THEY HAVE, THE LIGHTS, THE TRAILERS AND ALL THAT. 
          THOSE ARE FINE, BUT I'LL BE HONEST, ONCE THEY'RE THERE A LITTLE BIT, PEOPLE IGNORE WHERE IT BECOMES A GUN AND THEY GAME TO SEE, HEY, HOW QUICKLY CAN I GET THIS UP TO, THESE ARE JUST BOXES THAT WHEN WE GET A COMPLAINT SOMEWHERE, WE CAN PUT 'EM UP AND SEE DO WE LEGITIMATELY HAVE AN ISSUE OR DO PEOPLE JUST THINK WE HAVE AN ISSUE. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, THE, THE, THAT'S WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE 'EM AROUND TOWN AND THEY, THEY TELL US IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE, THEY TELL US WHAT TIME OF DAY, WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK WE HAVE ISSUES. 
          AND THEY ALSO GIVE VERY GOOD TRAFFIC COUNTS. 
          THAT'S NICE. 
          SO YEAH, CHIEF DID ASK TO HAVE THESE ITEMS REMOVED AND I WAS LIKE, NO, THESE ARE ALL FORCE MULTIPLIERS. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY WANT TO YEAH. 
          DO WHAT WE CAN TO AUGMENT THEIR, I THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE 'EM RIGHT WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          YEP. 
          WELL HOPE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO, AGAIN, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET 'EM. 
          UM, BUT I, WHAT I'M, I'M HOPING TO TRY TO USE SOME OTHER MONEY, UH, TO GET THOSE AS WELL. 
          SO LICENSED PRO PLATE READERS, ARE THOSE JUST LIKE ON THE ENTRANCES TO TOWN? IS THAT WHERE THEY WOULD BE PLACED? YES, MA'AM. 
          I, I'VE GOT FIVE OF 'EM. 
          WE DON'T COVER EVERY SINGLE, UH, PLACE, BUT WE'VE GOT 3 32 COMING, UH, FROM LAKE JACKSON. 
          FREEPORT ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE ONE THAT WILL BE ON STRAT RIDGE COMING IN FROM THE COUNTY, ONE ON 2 88 B COMING IN FROM RIDGEWOOD WAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLANTATION, THOSE GETS A LITTLE TRICKY, BUT TRYING TO JUST COVER UP COVER WHERE THOSE FOLKS ARE COMING IN, UM, THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, MOST OF THE SURROUNDING AGENCIES ALSO USED, WHICH GIVES US THAT ABILITY TO WORK WITH THEM AS WELL TO GET THOSE WHERE THE OTHER THING THAT IT'S NOT JUST THOSE, THAT, THE OTHER PIECE WITH THAT IS ACTUALLY A MOBILE, UH, UNIT. 
          IT'S A TRAILER THAT HAS LIVE FEED CAMERAS AND THE LICENSE PLATE READER ON IT. 
          SO TWICE A YEAR WE WOULD USE IT LIKE MOSQUITO FESTIVAL AND, UM, THE GIVE BACK FESTIVAL, WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT IT AT THE PARK, OUR DISPATCH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE LIVE FEED AGAIN. 
          UH, IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL FIGHT BREAKING OUT, SOMETHING 
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OF THAT, THEY CAN SEE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          THE OTHER PART IS THAT WE CAN'T, LIKE RIGHT NOW, UM, WHICH HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE SUMMER, AND IT'S NOT JUST US LIKE JACKSON RICHWOOD, UM, ARE ALL GETTING HAMMERED WITH CAR BURGLARS. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, NO ACCIDENT THAT IT HAPPENS DURING THE SUMMERTIME, UM, WHEN SOME OF OUR CHILDREN DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO AT NIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UM, SO WE ALL THREE OF OUR AGENCIES, BUT THIS WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THAT UP AT APARTMENT COMPLEX AT OUR HOTELS, UH, WHERE WE HAD GOT HIGH NARCOTIC AREAS AND THEY'RE VERY VISIBLE AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT I'VE, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION. 
          WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE? DO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE? THEY, THEY ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. 
          AND IF NOTHING ELSE, WHILE THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE NOT COMMITTING THOSE CRIMES. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR HIGH NARCOTIC AREA OF TOWN, IF WE STOP OUR DRUG USERS FROM GOING THERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THIS ISN'T THE MOST POPULAR THINGS TO SAY, BUT LET'S, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE QUOTE UNQUOTE WORLD DRUGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE BUSH ONE, UM, THAT WE'RE, THAT'S A LOSING BATTLE. 
          AND IF POLICE AND CHIEFS OF POLICE ARE VERY HONEST ABOUT THE WAR ON DRUGS, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO STOP DRUGS. 
          OUR GOAL IS USUALLY TO RELOCATE IT , AND IF WE LOCATE IT, RELOCATE OUT OF OUR CITY LIMITS, THAT'S WHERE OUR RESPONSIBILITY COMES. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE TRAILERS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS ASSIST US IN DOING THAT. 
          SO, AND WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY THAT ONE WAS? THE, THAT 1 44. 
          THE, UH, LICENSE PLATE RE THAT LICENSE PLATE READERS. 
          AND THAT IS WHAT I'M LEAVING TOMORROW. 
          UH, THERE'S A GRANT THAT I'M WORKING ON. 
          I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT, UH, THROUGH THE STATE. 
          UM, I WILL BE MAKING A PRESENTATION AND I FEEL THAT WE'LL HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SHOT AT GETTING THAT. 
          HOW MANY, HOW MANY ARE IN THE, ARE IN THE 1 44? THERE'S FIVE, FIVE OF THE LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THEN ONE TRAILER. 
          SO FIVE FIXED PLUS THE MOBILE UNIT? CORRECT. 
          SO IS THAT JUST LIKE ONE UNIT OR NO, NO, NO. 
          IS THAT FIVE READERS THAT YOU IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONE READER, BUT IT WILL COME OUT AND GET EVERYTHING THAT PASSES THROUGH THAT. 
          SO THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND TOWN THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THAT. 
          THEN THE, UH, TRAILER HAS SEVERAL CAMERAS IN A, A LICENSE PLATE READER AS WELL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          OKAY. 
          STILL NOT GETTING THE FULL. 
          SO, SO IF YOU THINK, SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE FIXED ASSETS THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING AT THE ENTRANCE, THE MAJOR TRAFFIC AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE MOBILE UNIT THAT CAN BE DISPATCHED WHEN WE HAVE A POCKET, AH, HOT POCKET. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, I'M NOT GONNA NAME NAMES, BUT THERE'S ONE MOTEL HOTEL THAT WE'VE HAD 173 SERVICE CALLS, SO WE CALL WOW. 
          AND SO WE COULD SET IT UP IN THAT PARKING LOT MM-HMM . 
          THAT, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT GETS THEM, GETS THE, THE, THE CLIENTELE THERE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HURT THEIR BUSINESS, BUT WE WOULD RATHER THEIR BUSINESS BE LEGITIMATE, LEGITIMATE GOOD BUSINESS VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES. 
          SO THERE ARE ABOUT LIKE 28,000 A PIECE OR, WELL, YOU HAD, THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, KIND OF TWO SIDES TO THIS. 
          YOU HAVE THE COST OF THE, THE, UH, ACTUAL LPR MM-HMM . 
          BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE SOFTWARE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES INTO THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THAT IT'S A COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO THINGS. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE CAMERA OR THE TRAILER. 
          ONCE YOU HAVE THE SOFTWARE, YOU CAN ADD AS MANY READERS AS YOU WANT. 
          OR IS IT PER READER? YOU HAVE TO ADD THE SOFTWARE TO EACH? YEAH. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD THE SOFTWARE THAT COST NOW THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING COST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, THEY, WE CAN ADD MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL START, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL. 
          WE'LL START WITH THE FIVE MM-HMM . 
          IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE'LL START ADDING ADDING MORE AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, THE NICE PART ABOUT THIS SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THEY ARE VERY OPEN WITH THEIR INFORMATION. 
          SO THE LAKE JACKSON USES THIS SAME SYSTEM. 
          SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING, WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO CHECK LAKE JACKSON'S CAMERAS AS WELL, AS WELL AS THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK OURS AND ON THROUGH THE, THAT TYPE OF DEAL. 
          HOUSTON PD USES THESE, SO IT, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A SYSTEM THAT'S VERY ROBUST AND IT WILL HELP US. 
          BUT IF, IF WE MET, LET'S 
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SAY, SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT WHO'S COMING INTO TOWN, BUT IF THEY LEAVE TOWN AND GO INTO ANOTHER JURISDICTION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CATCH THAT AS WELL. 
          SO IT, IT GIVES US A BIGGER UMBRELLA THAN JUST OUR FIVE SQUARE MILES. 
          AWESOME. 
          THAT WAS GREAT. 
          AND I WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME TEAM KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT, BUT THE TURNOVER WE WERE AVERAGING, WHAT, 75%? I, I, I, I A LOT . 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, I HATE TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I HATE THE JINX. 
          THIS, YOU DON'T, YOU DESERVE CREDIT. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WHAT I'LL, WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT OUR TURNOVER, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS KIND OF, YOU GET THAT RIPPLE EFFECT FROM OUR UNIFORM BUDGET HAS GONE DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO BUY BRAND NEW UNIFORMS, BRAND NEW VEST. 
          THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT COME OUT OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE. 
          AND SO WE'VE HAD THAT RIPPLE EFFECT OF BECAUSE OF, OF NOT HAVING THE, THE TURNOVER, WE'RE NOT BUYING NEW UNIFORMS. WE'RE BEST AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT COMES WITH THAT MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S LITTLE THINGS THAT HAVE COME INTO A BIGGER THING. 
          SO THE LAST FIVE YEARS YOU AVERAGE 65, 70 5%, UH, RETENTION. 
          UM, MOST OF THE TURNOVER, OF COURSE IN THE PD AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE AT SETTING THAT SINCE OCTOBER 93% RETENTION. 
          NICE. 
          AND I'VE GOT, AND, AND AGAIN, I'VE GOT JUST THE ONE OPENING AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF APPLICANTS AND IT'S JUST PEOPLE WHERE YOU, WE'VE BEEN PICKY WITH OUR APPLICANTS AND I, I THINK THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE JUST WOULD RATHER HAVE GOOD PEOPLE THAN JUST HAVE MORE BODIES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE WE'RE AT WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          WELL, SOMETIMES ALL IT TAKES IS THAT ONE BAD APPLE TO CORRUPT THE WHOLE BUNCH, SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BEING PICKY IS NOT A BAD THING. 
          WELL, HE'S EVEN HAD PEOPLE, OTHER OFFICERS COME FROM OTHER, COME FROM OTHER CITIES WHERE IT USUALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, AND THAT, AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD OFFICERS LEAVE FOR MORE MONEY AND I'VE HAD 'EM COME BACK AND VISIT, AND THE, THE DOWNSIDE OF MAKING MORE MONEY IS YOU SPEND MORE MONEY. 
          AND I'VE HAD THOSE OFFICERS TELL ME, IF I COULD MAKE THE SAME MONEY I COME BACK TOMORROW. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED, UM, AT THE CORE OF THE PD WITH THE EMPLOYEES, UM, WE WE'RE, WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD PLACE AND IT'S TAKEN US A WHILE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN I TOOK OVER, I TELL MY FOLKS, THIS WASN'T A REVOLUTION, IT'S AN EVOLUTION. 
          AND WE JUST, WE HAVE, WE'VE SLOWLY EVOLVED TO WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          AND, UM, I'M PROUD OF THE JOB THAT THEY DO. 
          SO, AND HIS REWARD FOR THAT WAS, UH, INHERITING CODE ENFORCEMENT OF FIRE MARSHAL,  , WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I KNEW THAT WAS COMING. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB AS WELL. 
          AND HOPEFULLY GETTING, UH, THEM WITH SOME ASSISTANCE IS, UH, WILL HELP AS WELL. 
          UH, WITH SOME OF THIS, WHAT I EXPLAIN TO FOLKS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES IS WE HANDLE A COMPLAINT AND THAT PERSON'S GOING, OKAY, I'LL FIX IT. 
          BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE, THAT ONE, THAT ONE AND THAT ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO YOU GET SO MUCH OF THOSE TREE BRANCHES GOING THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE FIGHTING THAT WE, WE ARE GIVING THEM, GETTING THEM SOME TOOLS TO DO SOME THINGS. 
          UM, WE DID UP THE, UH, DEMO BUDGET BECAUSE WE'VE STARTED DEMOING SOME OF THESE, UH, BUILDINGS AND, AND RESIDENCES THAT ARE UNSAFE. 
          WE DID UP THAT BUDGET A LOT OF, YEAH. 
          A LOT OF THE BUDGET THAT WENT UP WAS ON THAT SIDE OF IT, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO THERE TO GET US, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE, THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WANT, BUT WE'VE GOTTA CLEAN UP WHAT WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE TO COME HERE. 
          AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS A POPULAR THING TO, TO DO. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING ON SOME THINGS TO WHERE Y'ALL MAY START GETTING MORE COMPLAINTS. 
          WE'RE GONNA START ISSUING CITATIONS MUCH MORE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'VE BEEN GIVING PEOPLE THE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. 
          AND OUR BIG PUSH LATELY HAS BEEN THE JUNK VEHICLES. 
          AND WHAT'S BEEN PRETTY NICE IS WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, UH, WITH THAT. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO, UM, FORCE THEM, BUT THOSE WILL BE COMING AND THAT'S WHEN THE COMPLAINTS START COMING. 
          YEP. 
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ABOUT OUT OF THE BLUE TESTIMONIAL. 
          BUT, UH, ON THE, ON THE PD SIDE, YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL CASE WITH A STABBING AND SOMEBODY BLEEDING TO DEATH IN THE CAR, AND I GOT COPIES OF ALL THE POLICE CAMS OR A DIFFERENT AGENCY, NOT CLUE. 
          AND, UH, THE OFFICERS ARE NOT TAKING WITNESS STATEMENTS. 
          THEY'RE SOMEBODY LEADING OUT DYING AND THEY'RE JOKING AROUND ABOUT THE AMBULANCE AND THEY, IT IS JUST, IT, THEY JUST LOOK HORRIBLE. 
          AND, UH, PARTICULARLY NOT QUESTIONING WITNESSES OR GETTING NAMES OR DOING ANYTHING. 
          SOMEBODY, SOME OFFICER SAID, SHOULDN'T WE BE DOING THIS AND SAY, NAH, WE'RE NOT GONNA LET CID DO THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HERE INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK OR WHATEVER, THE CRIME THAT WE HAD. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE OFFICERS WERE YOU BEING THOROUGH IN THEIR INVESTIGATION? VERY THOROUGH. 
          YOU KNOW, THE PATROL OFFICERS AND, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE DETECTIVES AND PATROL OFFICERS AS FAR AS GETTING PEOPLE'S NAMES AND MONITORING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO IT SEEMS KIND OF LIKE, THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, A RANDOM TESTIMONIAL, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT TWO, THE WAY TWO SIMILAR SERIOUS CASES WERE HANDLED BETWEEN OUR CITY AND ANOTHER CITY, IT WAS JUST NIGHT AND DAY AS FAR AS THE QUALITY OF, UH, DO, DO WE HAVE DRONES? DO WE HAVE A DRONE  YOU WANT ONE MAYOR? WE WE DO NOT. 
          WE DO NOT, WE DO NOT HAVE A DRONE. 
          UM, I'VE GOT, I'VE HAD MY OFFICERS ASK ME ABOUT 'EM, I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, TR AGAIN, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE WHAT WE NEED THE MOST. 
          UM, I'M, I'M A PERSON THAT IF I'M GOING TO BUY EQUIPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND FOR ME, LOOKING AT HOW WE WOULD USE A DRONE, I WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE A DRONE PILOT ON EVERY SHIFT TO MAKE SOMEBODY AVAILABLE. 
          AND AS I APPRECIATE WHAT, UH, MR. DUNCAN SAID ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, OUR INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED MONDAY, WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE WITHOUT THE HELP OF EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE DRONES, UM, LAKE JACKSON'S GOT A, A PRETTY ROBUST DRONE PROGRAM. 
          UH, CHIEF OZZIE'S, UH, HUSBAND WAS OUT THERE AND FLEW TWO DIFFERENT DRONES FOR US. 
          AND WE JUST, WE USE OUR RESOURCES AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY WELL, I JUST WONDERING, BUT BECAUSE I, I WAS, I STOPPED TO BUY MY AUTO TICKET YESTERDAY AND I HEARD A GUY ON THE PHONE AND HE SAID, YEAH, WELL THEY HAD DRONES OUT THERE. 
          THEY HAD . 
          IT WAS, THAT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, UH, LAKE JACKSON FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE THAT WAS HELPING US. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'VE GOT 'EM, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S GOT 'EM. 
          UM, RICHWOOD FIRES THINK NOT EVERY AGENCY WAS HELPING OUT WITH THAT STATE. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S FABULOUS SITUATION LIKE THAT. 
          IT WAS AMAZING. 
          I, I WILL TELL YOU, UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE TEXAS RANGER THAT DAY, MORE THAN I REALLY WANT TO. 
          BUT I MEAN, THEY'RE FRIENDS OF MINE, BUT YOU DON'T WANNA SPEND TIME THAT WAY. 
          I'D RATHER HAVE A, A DOPE BEVERAGE WITH 'EM . 
          UH, BUT THE, THE THING THAT THEY COMPLIMENTED US ON IS THAT WE DID NOT HESITATE TO ASK FOR HELP AND TAKE THAT HELP. 
          THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF AGENCIES, AND I HATE TO SAY IT IN PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, EGOS PLAY A BIG PART AND THERE'S A LOT OF AGENCIES THAT WON'T ASK FOR HELP OR, OR EVEN TAKE THE HELP WHEN IT'S, AND THEY WERE VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF US IN THAT, NOT JUST THE JOB WE DID, BUT WE WERE, WE SAID, PLEASE HELP. 
          AND, UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN MY PRESS RELEASE, I THINK I GET EVERYBODY THAT HELPED US IN THAT. 
          BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT, OF ALL THEM. 
          I ACTUALLY, ON TUESDAY, I CALLED MY DETECTIVES TOGETHER AND I ASSURED THEM. 
          I SAID, I WANT Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND ME CALLING FOR ALL THIS HELP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ABILITIES. 
          WE JUST NEEDED THAT HELP. 
          AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH, WE'RE ACTUALLY THANKING YOU FOR GETTING US THAT HELP. 
          SO, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR DRONES, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A, AN EXTRA PERK FOR US, BUT IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, WE'VE GOT THE HELP THAT, THAT THEY USING AND, UH, DRONE PILOTS, THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THEY LOVE THEIR TOYS, AND SO THEY DON'T HESITATE TO COME HELP WHEN WE ASK FOR IT. 
          LIKE I SAID, I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE I HEARD SOMEBODY MENTION IT AND I I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, WE, WE DON'T, AND, BUT WE, WE'VE GOT ACCESS TO THEM. 
          IT'S KIND OF BECOME A RUNNING JOKE IN THE IN COME BUDGET SEASON ABOUT THE DRONES. 
          SO THERE, THERE WAS OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE ASKING FOR THEM EVERY YEAR, AND ONE OF THE TOP OF LINE NASA 
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RATED DRONES. 
          AND SO IT'S, YEAH. 
          IT'S BEEN A RUNNING JOKE OF IT. 
          ALSO, MAYBE AT ONE POINT MIGHT BE USEFUL THOUGH. 
          I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ONLY HAVE TO USE 'EM FOR PD. 
          I MEAN, WE USE 'EM FOR FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          BUT THAT, AND THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE. 
          UM, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS WHEN WE NEEDED A HAND, LET'S SAY LIKE THIS INCIDENT, OR EVEN IN OTHER THINGS, LIKE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WATER OR DRAINAGE PLATFORM ASSISTANCE, WE HAVE OTHER RESOURCES WE CAN CALL WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE EXPENSE OF TRAINING EQUIPMENT, LICENSING, MAINTAINING THAT LICENSE. 
          UM, LAKE JACKSON HAS A GREAT, A GREAT PROGRAM. 
          HEROIN HAS WHAT IS PROBABLY THE STATE OF THE ART IN THE WORLD. 
          I MEAN, PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER EUROPE TO STUDY THEIR DRONE PROGRAM. 
          THEY'RE WILLING TO SEND THEIR FOLKS DOWN. 
          SO, AND AS THE, THE, THE DOWNSIDE, UM, IS AS DRONE PROGRAMS ARE MOVING OUT, THE COURTS ARE GETTING MORE INVOLVED WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE'S PRIVACY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS, 'CAUSE WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT IT FORTS THINGS SUCH AS CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT THEY'VE ACTUALLY SAID, OH YEAH, YOU'RE VIOLATING PEOPLE'S PRIVACY TO GO AND LOOK ON THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          SO, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BECOMING ROBUST, BUT THE COURT SYSTEM'S ALREADY STARTING TO BRING SOME OF THAT BACK IN. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S JUST, THEY'RE, AND I LOVE THEM AND THEY'RE GREAT, BUT THERE'S JUST THINGS WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON. 
          I THINK MAYBE IF WE HIRE SOMEBODY TO BOTTOM TO THE ILLEGAL DUMPSTER DUMP IT, WE CAN TEACH THEM TO FLY DRONES. 
          WELL, WE'LL HAVE A CAMERA, WE CAN MOVE AROUND. 
          BUT THAT, THAT KIND OF GET TO THE POINT. 
          CHIEF'S MAKING, UH, THERE WAS RECENTLY A RULING WHERE YOU CAN'T DO, UH, THERE WAS ONE CITY IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY THAT WAS USING 'EM ON TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          UH, AND THEY ENDED UP WITH A CASE WHERE THEY AREN'T ABLE TO DO A BLANKET WARRANT ANYMORE. 
          THEY HAVE TO GET AN INDIVIDUAL WARRANT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FLY OVER IT AND TAKE ANY FOOTAGE. 
          I WILL SAY I SAW SOMETHING RECENT, I DO NOT REMEMBER WHAT CITY IT WAS THAT WAS USING THEM FOR FIREWORKS, AND THEY WERE MAILING THE CITATIONS OUT FROM THEIR DRONE FOOTAGE. 
          OH MY. 
          FOR THE PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S FABULOUS. 
          SO I THOUGHT I WAS LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR, I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA SPEND MONEY ON, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRETTY COOL USE OF THAT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE FUN. 
          POLICE, THERE'S THE WAY TO PAY FOR IT. 
          , I CAN ASSURE YOU, EVERY YEAR THEY CAME AND PARKED ON MUSTER. 
          WELL, THE, THE THING WE TALK ABOUT IS THE, THE THING, YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR BEST BETWEEN PATROL ACTUALLY HAD BOTH FIRE MARSHALS OUT THIS YEAR, UH, ROAMING AROUND AND, AND OUR FIRE MARSHAL LIVES ON THE STREET. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THEY, THEY, THEY HIDE, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY SEE HEADLIGHTS OR CARS COMING, THEY RUN AND THEN AS SOON AS YOU TURN, WELL, YOU CAN'T HIDE THE SMOKE. 
          YEAH, RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT TRY TO PROVE WHO IT WAS AND FIND THEM. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          SO, WELL, I WILL SAY THIS YEAR WAS NOT AS BAD AS LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS. 
          WELL, I HOPE YOUR WEEK GETS EASIER NEXT WEEK. 
          I, I WON'T BE IN TOWN, SO LET'S HOPEFULLY KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE A WEEK LIKE THIS, YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN TROUBLE. 
          YEAH, I'LL BE, I I'LL BE KIND. 
          YOU KNOW, THE GRANT MAY GO AWAY. 
          I WE'LL SEE. 
          SO, NO, NO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          CHIEF THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          CHIEF FOR ALL YOU DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND YOUR TEAM. 
          AND YOUR TEAM. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UP NEXT IS FIRE. 
          WE'RE BOTH SINGING FIRE UP HERE. 
          , UH, HAD TO GET THAT ONE OUT TOO. 
           MY BAD. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN IT PERSONALLY. 
          THIS YEAR'S BUDGET PRIMARILY HAS RE UH, STAYED THE SAME FOR FIRE. 
          UH, THEY DID MAKE AN ASK FOR SOME VEHICLES. 
          UH, WE ASKED THEM TO HOLD OFF ON THOSE FOR THE TIME BEING UNTIL WE CAN GET THE FUND 1 0 6 REPLENISHED. 
          UM, BUT WE DID, THEY DO HAVE SOME GEAR THAT THEY NEED, UH, AND A COUPLE OF CAPITAL BUILT FACILITIES. 
          INSTRUCTIONS CHIEF DO WANT, YES, AS FAR AS GEAR AND ARROW HANG AS FAR AS WE DO HAVE, UH, WE'RE PUTTING A ROBUST, ROBUST ASPECT OUT THERE AND HANG AS FAR AS TO TRY TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. 
          AND WE'VE GOT THREE NEW CANDIDATES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ON IT. 
          SO WE ARE WITH THE, THE ASPECT OF THE, UH, GEAR EXPIRATION AND EVERYTHING. 
          WE ASKED FOR, UH, SOME MORE GEAR ONTO THEIR, THE BUNKER GEAR AND THAT'S INCREASING IN COST ALL THE TIME, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          AND THEN 
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AS FAR AS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IN EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE BUILDING AND NARROW, HANG ON STATION TWO, IT'S MORE OF A PLACE THAT WE CAN DO SOME TRAINING, ADDITIONAL TRAINING, UH, OF COURSE IN NARROW HANG WE GOT STATION ONE, BUT OF COURSE IN NARROW HANG WITH OTHER ASPECTS, WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO TWO SEPARATE TYPE OF TRAININGS ON AT ONE TIME. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT THE UPSTAIRS OF STATION TWO THAT IS ALREADY DECKED OUT. 
          IN THE PAST IT WAS UTILIZED IN NARROW HANG FOR TRAINING AND THEN, UH, EMS AND NARROW HANG AS FAR AS MADE IT WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          AND WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, BUILD THAT BUILDING BACK UP. 
          SO WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, FLOORING UP ON THE UPSTAIRS, UH, FROM THE PLYWOOD AND NARROW LANE TO BE ABLE TO BE MORE COMFORTABLE AND HOLD ON TO AS FAR GETTING AIR CONDITIONING ASPECTS UP THERE FROM THE DUCT WORK WE HAVE ALREADY UP THERE. 
          AND AS FAR AS SIGNAGE ON THAT BUILDING WHERE EVERYONE KNOWS AND EVERYTHING THAT IS A FIRE STATION WITH THE, UH, ABILITY WITH PEOPLE KNOWING AND EVERYTHING WHERE THEY CAN GO TO AND UH, WHAT WE HAVE OTHER DOCK TRAINS AS FAR AS BEING SIGNED OUT ONTO THERE. 
          AND THEN DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE BATTERIES AND THE NEED UH, UH, FOR THE HEARST EQUIPMENT? YES, AND THE BATTERIES AND STUFF. 
          AS FAR AS ON THE ASPECT, EVERYTHING IS COMING IN AS FAR AS BEING MORE PORTABLE ASPECT IN THEIR HANG HAVING BATTERIES, BUT TECHNOLOGY IN THEIR HANG, WE NEED TO KEEP A NARROW HANG AS FAR AS REPLACEMENT OF THOSE ON A ROUTINE BASIS. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY IN MERRI HANG, THEY HAVE A EXPENSIVE PRICE IN EVERYTHING. 
          YOU ALMOST CAN BUY A NEW TOOL IN MERRI HANG FOR THE PRICE OF BATTERIES AND STUFF, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE ROBUST OF KEEPING THOSE, UH, PORTABLE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON A GIVEN ON IT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT SOME OF THAT EXPENSE YOU SHOULD KEEP IN YOUR, IN YOUR BUDGET YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO IN HY UH, ASKED CJ IDENTIFIED HAN. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DID ASK AND THEY'LL HANG AS FAR AS GOING TO THERE. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND THE ASPECT OF TIGHTNESS OF THE, UH, BUDGET AND STUFF, BUT WE ARE JUST TRYING TO INTRODUCE THAT AS FAR AS FUTURE REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT. 
          ARE THOSE BATTERIES REALLY THAT EXPENSIVE? YES MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          WOW. 
          YES. 
          LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, IT SAYS TWO BATTERIES. 
          DOES THAT MEAN TWO BATTERIES? IS THAT, THAT'S TWO BATTERIES FOR $9,000 A PIECE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THE THING YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, BUT, BUT THEY'RE A GROUP OF BATTERIES AND STUFF THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A NINE VOLT OR EVEN WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR CAR. 
          NO, IT'S, IT'S, I WOULD, IT'S A WHOLE LIPO THAT IS REQUIRED. 
          YOU'VE GOTTA GENERATE ENOUGH AMPERAGE AND WATTAGE TO POWER THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY'RE HEAVY DUTY. 
          AND THEN THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS ONE THAT IS GONNA FAIL ON YOU OUT IN THE FIELD, AND NOW YOU'VE GOTTA USE THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. 
          SO YEAH, THEY, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. 
          THAT'S, UH, EVERY EV OWNER'S WORST NIGHTMARE IS NO, THE BATTERY'S DYING. 
          IT'S MOST EXPENSIVE YEAH. 
          AS THE EV ASPECTS. 
          AND IT'LL HANG AS FAR AS THE CAR OWNERS. 
          YOU ALMOST CAN GO BUY A WHOLE NEW CAR AND IT'LL HANG FOR REPLACING THE BATTERY BANK. 
          YEAH. 
          DANG. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S, WOW. 
          AND, AND SO DO THESE COME WITH THE CHARGING STATION? OH, WITH THEM? THAT'S NOT A SEPARATE COST. 
          NO, NO, IT'S NOT. 
          IT'S, IT'S SELF-CONTAINED. 
          IT'S SELF-CONTAINED ASPECT AND IT'LL HANG AS FAR AS FOR THE TOOLS. 
          WOW. 
          AND WE CHANGE STUFF AND WE ARE LOOKING IN, IT'LL HANG. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT, EVEN THE ASPECT AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS SMALL TOOLS, I'VE GOT LIGHTING, UH, ASPECTS TO THOSE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE DID AND AS FAR AS WE MADE AS OTHER APPLIANCES AND EVERYTHING'S LIKE, UH, THE LIGHT PLANTS THAT WE HAVE AND THERE THE LIGHT TIRES MAKING EXPECTING EVERYTHING WHERE THEY CAN BE PLUGGED INTO AN AUTOMOBILE AND LIKE YOUR, UH, SEVEN PRONG ASPECT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
          SO YOU CAN JUST PLUG IT IN INSTEAD SPEND IT INSTEAD OF SPENDING $12,000, WE CAN GET THAT DOWN TO ABOUT, UH, FOUR TO $5,000 OR EVEN BY THE, SOME OF THOSE NEW PORTABLE GENERATOR. 
          YEAH, THE SOLAR. 
          THE SOLAR. 
          WELL THE SOLAR GENERATOR POWER. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE YEAH, WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT. 
          UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT POWER GENERATION IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE DO OUR BACKUP SYSTEMS, UH, LANDON'S GOT EVERYBODY ON A REALLY GOOD BACKUP SYSTEM, SMALL SCALE FOR LAPTOPS, BUT EVEN LOOKING AT GENERATOR COSTS AND WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE HEADED, LOOKING AT THE MODEL, BUT LIKE BASE USES YOU, I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THEIR ADS ON FOR A HOME, HOME BATTERY GENERATOR, UH, FOR ABOUT HALF THE COST OF A GENERAC THAT IS 
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SOLAR AND DIRECT FEED. 
          SO YOU'RE ABLE TO GENERATE, KEEP THAT BATTERY TOPPED OFF AND TRICKLED OFF INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RELY ON, ON GAS, NATURAL GAS OR DIESEL. 
          SO, AND AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FOR SOME, YOU KNOW, I DID ASK FOR MORE GEAR AND STUFF ONTO THERE, BUT WE, I FOUND A WAY IN EVERYTHING AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'VE GOT A, UH, SAFER GRANT THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR TO BE ABLE TO, THEY GIVE SO MUCH IN EVERYTHING FOR A SET OF, UH, BUCKET GEAR AND EVERYTHING. 
          YOU'RE LOOKING IN EVERYTHING TO OUTFIELD, UH, SOMEONE IN A, IT'S ROUGHLY IN ARROWING YOU'RE LOOKING AT FIVE TO $8,000 PER BUNKER GEAR. 
          THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 
          PER, PER PER PERSON. 
          PER PERSON. 
          PER PERSON. 
          AND, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE, UH, SCBA THAT ARE LIFE SAVING, UH, APPARATUS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO INTO THE FIRES WITH. 
          LOOKING AT THAT WE'RE GETTING, WE APPLY FOR THE SAFER GRANT FOR NEW FIREFIGHTERS THAT COULD COME INTO THE, UH, OUR MEMBERSHIP SAFER GRANT WOULD PAY HIM NEVER PAYING 90% OF THAT COST FOR THAT BULK OF YEAR. 
          AND WE WOULD ONLY HAVE TO BE IN ANG A SMALL AMOUNT OF STUFF TO IT. 
          DANG. 
          SO EVERY PENNY HELPS. 
          EVERY PENNY HELPS IN ANG AND WE FOUND OUT IN ANG THAT THERE IS MONEY LEFT IN THE SAFER GRANT AND THERE THEY CALLED OUT TO ME IN ANG, WE APPLYING FOR IT AND WE'RE ALWAYS ON THE, UH, EXPECTING THEY HANG AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET NEW MEMBERS IN WILL HANG AS FAR AS WE HAVE THE, UH, THAT IS OUR MEMBERSHIP RIGHT NOW. 
          OUR MEMBERSHIP RIGHT NOW IS, UH, DOWN RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY WITH THE, UH, AUXILIARY IN . 
          WE GOT ABOUT 19 MEMBERS RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT AROUND 20. 
          YEAH. 
          IN, WE'VE BEEN HOLDING AROUND THERE. 
          BUT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO HOLD THE, UH, THE ASPECT OF HAVING THE COUNT IN NARROW HANG GOING TO THEIR, AND WE EVEN HAVE HELD ONTO WHAT CO HAS HELPED US WITH AND STUFF ONTO THERE AS FAR AS ATTRACTION TO GET MEMBERS AND AS FAR AS RETAINING THEM, UH, WE'RE UPPING OUR EXPENSE AND EVERYTHING TO OUR PENSION, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT INTO THE SAME COST AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS LAST YEAR WITH THE MEMBERS TO MATCH THE AREA OF FIREFIGHTERS, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MATCHING ONTO THEIR, AND THAT MAKES AN ATTRACTION AND ALL TO GET NEW MEMBERS. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          Y'ALL DO. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A, WE THANK Y'ALL AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS IT GO, CONTINUOUS SUPPORT AND THEN THE MANAGEMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE AND NEIL HANG WORKING WITH THIS AND EVERYTHING THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE WORD NO, BUT WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HANG AS FAR AS BEING A CITIZEN AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS ONTO THERE, WE ALWAYS TRY TO TELL YOU YES WHEN WE CAN. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T AMOUNT HANG, IT'S WORTH THAT. 
          BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND, HANG AS FOR KNOWING IN NO HANG WHERE WE MAY GET SOME OTHER EXPENSE AND THEY HANG YOU. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER THAT WE LOOKED AT ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO, $564 MILLION FOR MM-HMM . 
          REPLACING WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES. 
          AND I WAS IN HERE. 
          I SAW IT, AND I WAS CRINGING BACK THERE IN LINE. 
          THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TELL WE'RE A LITTLE BIT SHORT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, AS A CITIZEN IN EL AND AS A ONTO THERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART VERY WELL. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          ANY QUESTION? I CAN'T SPEAK. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          GET UP HERE, GET OUT, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WITH THAT, UH, FUN OPENING . 
          UH, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO KEEP A BRIEF, NOT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OVER HERE IN, UH, FUND FOUR 10. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS NOW FUND FOUR 10, YOU MAY REMEMBER IT WAS FOUR 12 LAST YEAR. 
          COREY IS STILL THANKING ME EVERY DAY BY KICKING ME IN THE S**T. 
          NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          UH, FOR MAKING THOSE, UH, NUMERICAL TRANSITIONS. 
          UH, EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH BASICALLY IS HELD THE SAME. 
          UH, YOU DO HAVE TWO OPEN POSITIONS THAT YOU ARE KEEPING. 
          WE HAVE THREE, THREE, UH, WE HAD TWO. 
          WE'VE HAD TWO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          BUT, UM, NO ONE HAS MET OUR EXPECTATIONS. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE FOUR PART-TIMERS. 
          THEY'RE ALL PARAMEDICS. 
          UH, THEY ALL WORKED, UH, EXCEPT FOR ONE WORKED FULL-TIME FOR US AT ONE POINT. 
          UH, A COUPLE OF THEM WENT ON TO GET THEIR BACHELORS DEGREE. 
          ONE OF 'EM IS PRE-MED. 
          HE'S BEEN, UM, GOING TO SCHOOL TO BE A DOCTOR, BUT THEY ALL ALSO WORK FOR US PART-TIME. 
          AND WE HAD FILLED THOSE POSITIONS EFFORTLESSLY WITH THEM. 
          UM, SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY SAVING THE CITY MONEY, NOT FILLING THOSE 
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POSITIONS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT DISTRESSING, UM, ON THE EMPLOYEES OR THE STAFF. 
          AND SO WE'RE JUST GONNA COAST US THE WAY WE ARE. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO FIND QUALIFIED, UH, PEOPLE FOR THE POSITIONS. 
          AND SO I WOULD RATHER JUST, UM, TRUST THE TEAM I HAVE AND LET 'EM HANDLE IT. 
          AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING GREAT THAT WAY. 
          SO YES, WE'RE GONNA ROLL FORWARD WITH . 
          UM, FOR NOW, NOW THEY MADE A CAPITAL, UH, VEHICLE REQUEST AS WELL. 
          UH, TRYING TO GET A UTV FOR USE, LIKE WHEN WE HAVE MOSQUITO FESTIVAL, RATHER THAN HAVING TO BEG LAKE JACKSON FOR THAT. 
          UM, WE MIXED THAT. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR IT, BUT WE'RE AGAIN, TRYING TO REDUCE PRESSURE ON 1 0 6. 
          SO I OFFERED IT UP. 
          I, UM, I, WHEN I REQUESTED IT, I KNEW THAT THERE WAS A CHANCE THAT IT WOULD BE CUT. 
          WE WERE OKAY WITH THAT. 
          IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE GET IT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BORROW ONE. 
          MY FEAR IS THAT IF WE KEEP BORROWING IT, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN AND NOW WE HAVE TO PURCHASE, UM, THE COST OF THAT. 
          AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE WE GO BACK TO LAKE JACKSON. 
          UH, BUT EVENTUALLY WE'LL ASK FOR IT AGAIN. 
          AND WHEN THE CITY'S IN A BETTER POSITION, YOU KNOW, REVISIT IT. 
          SO IT WAS NOT, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OVER IT. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE GREAT IF WE GET IT. 
          I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE DID ASK FOR THAT WAS DIFFERENT IS WE'RE TO REPLACE A FURNITURE. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, I CUT MY TRAINING BUDGET, I CUT MOST OF, OF THE BIG TICKET ITEMS DOWN AND, UH, WITHOUT ANY, IT'S NOT GONNA DEPARTMENT WE'RE GOOD. 
          THEY UTV THAT COULD BE USED, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          THE IDEA WOULD BE TO, YEAH, WHEN I WENT, WHEN I BROUGHT IT TO BROUGHT IT BOARD, I ACTUALLY WENT TO CHIEF FIT WAS LIKE, HEY, THIS COULD BE A PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY THING. 
          NOT JUST AN EMS THING. 
          LIKE WE CAN PUT PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE SIDE OF, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY EMS. THE ONLY THING I WANTED WAS THE, UM, CART IN THE BACK TO BE RETROFITTED FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, THE A, UM, HIGHWAY CALL IT ON IT, IT WAS MORE JUST WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE GO DOWN, IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET TO THEM BECAUSE OUR AMBULANCE IS ON SOLID GROUND. 
          SO WE USUALLY HAVE TO EITHER DRAG A STRUCTURE THROUGH THERE, OR WE HAVE TO FIND A GOLF CART TO GET THEM, UH, FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK TO SOLIDS, UH, GROUND. 
          WE BORROW IT FROM LAKE JACKSON MAY HAVE BEEN VERY GENEROUS IN LETTING US BORROW IT, AND WE, THEY'VE NEVER TOLD US NO, BUT IT'S NOT OURS. 
          AND IF SOMETHING, GOD FORBID, SOMETHING HAPPENED TO IT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. 
          SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE, IN, WHEN I PRESENTED IT, IT WASN'T JUST FOR MOSQUITO FEST. 
          WE HAD A GIVE BACK FESTIVAL THAT WE COULD UTILIZE IT FOR DEER AFTER BUR, UM, KEITH DITCHES GUYS WERE OUT ON THE STREETS TRYING TO MANEUVER THROUGH STREETS THAT HAD TREES DOWN ON IT, UH, AND PASSABLE ROADS. 
          THESE THINGS WERE DESIGNED TO GET IN THERE AND SURVEY THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS SAFELY OR SAFELY BEEN TAKEN A UNIT OFF. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S GOT OUR, IT'S GOT A LONG LIST OF ATTRIBUTES THAT IT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR, BUT THEY'RE NOT CHEAP. 
          AND HOW MUCH? 25 OR 40? WELL, IT SAYS 40 40. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          THAT'S, UH, SO WHAT YOU SEE IS THE, OH, THAT'S TRANSFER BACK. 
          THAT'S THEIR REPAYMENT INTO THE FUND FOR PRIOR EQUIPMENT PURCHASES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE TOTAL UPFIT ON THE UTV WAS 43,000 ROUGHLY. 
          UM, I HAD OFFERED TO GET HER ONE OF THE TMU TRUCKS THAT I FOUND. 
          HE DID . 
          HE DID. 
          NO, YOU DIDN'T. 
          HE DID. 
          HE DID NOT. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU, UM, I MEAN, IF I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO PICK IT UP AND PUT IT IN MY CAR,  TRANSPORT IT THERE, IT WOULD, UH, YOU SAW IT GO UP THE HILL, RIGHT? I DID. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I DID. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS IMPRESSIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REVISIT NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, WHEN I WENT TO JOHN ABOUT SCISSOR LIFT, I, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT MORE OFTEN WHERE WE COME TOGETHER AND ASK FOR ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND IT BE UTILIZED FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND THIS IS THE SAME THING. 
          IT, IT COULD BE UTILIZED WITH US, THE PD, WE WOULD HOUSE IT OVER. 
          WE'VE GOT THOSE BIG BASE, IT COULD SIT IN THERE AND NOT BE OUTSIDE WHERE IT COULD GET BORN. 
          NOW ABOUT THE WEATHER. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND WHY IT GOT CUT THIS YEAR, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT EXPECT TO BE LESS END NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT I, I COULD SEE THAT BEING AS A BIG BENEFIT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, DURING OUR HURRICANE SEASONS WHEN WE DON'T EXPECT IT AS MUCH. 
          WELL, LATELY, UH, IT AIN'T GOTTA BE SUMMER OR HURRICANE FIRST US TO GET HIT BY A STORM OF SOME SORT. 
          SO, WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT A GRANT WOULD COVER SOMEWHERE. 
          SOMEWHERE. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD HAVE TO PASS THE BUCK OFF. 
          SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF E EM S PREP GRANTS OUT THERE. 
          WE'RE A STANDALONE EMS AGENCIES. 
          SO THERE ARE YOU OJ GRANTS OUT THERE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT GRANTS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PASS THE OFF TO, TO PITCH TO, TO DO THAT. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE THERE WAS, THERE'S 
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A GRANT OUT THERE. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO THAT CONFERENCE. 
          , YOU CAN FIND OUT WHILE YOU WERE THERE. 
          THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS IS MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT CONFERENCE. 
          WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD SAY YOU WERE PATROLLING IT TO ONE THING TO KIND OF ADD THAT CHIEF  STILL, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITHIN OUR THREE DEPARTMENTS TO KIND OF SOMETHING I WISH I WOULD'VE MENTIONED, AND I WANT TO KIND OF THANK OUR PARTNERS WITH SOME OF THIS. 
          WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF GETTING A, UH, FEMA TRAILER FROM DOW, UM, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DONATE TO US. 
          AND THEN BASF IS GOING TO DONATE US MONEY TO OUTFIT IT. 
          SO WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A MOBILE COMMAND TRAILER THAT WILL BE ABLE TO STEP BY MOSQUITO FESTIVAL. 
          THESE OTHERS WILL HAVE THAT. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT, UH, EQUIPMENT IN THERE. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT, UH, A MOBILE DISPATCH THE WHOLE NINE YARDS SO THAT FOR OUR THREE, UH, DEPARTMENTS, WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY MOVE THIS TRAILER IN AND DO THAT AS WELL. 
          SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO ALL WORK TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS OF, OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE CAN USE TOGETHER. 
          AND THIS TRAILER, AGAIN, WITH OUR, OUR INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS, IS GONNA BE A GOOD OPTION FOR US TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S, I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          I KNOW IN THE PAST NOW, NOW HAS HAD SOME GRANT PROGRAMS WHERE WE'VE GOT STRETCHERS AND SOME OTHER STUFF NOW. 
          SO THE, THE, THE LIGHT TOWERS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THE RADIOS THAT WE USED TO CARRY, THE FIRST LUCAS THAT WE EVER PURCHASED, UH, WERE ALL, ALL CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY GALL GRANTS. 
          AND THEY WERE AMAZING. 
          AND I WROTE THOSE GRANTS EVERY YEAR SINCE OH EIGHT. 
          AND WE GOT THEM EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          AND THEN THEY STOPPED. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY JUST STOPPED THE GRANT. 
          AND, UM, IT'S SUPER SAD. 
          AND I WISH IT WAS STILL THERE BECAUSE IT WAS A GRADE FOR, UM, ALL, ALL THE COMMUNITIES. 
          I MEAN, WE ALL WROTE GRANTS FOR IT, AND IT WENT UP TO $25,000. 
          SO THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          EVEN IF IT DIDN'T HURT, UH, PAY FOR YOUR ENTIRE PROJECT, IT, IT PAID FOR A HUGE CHUNK OF IT. 
          THE AEDS THAT WE JUST REPLACED IN THE CITIES, ALL THE DEPARTMENT, THE CITIES, THE FIRST AEDS THAT WE BOUGHT WERE FROM THE DOW COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THE COMMUNITY GRANTS. 
          SO IT, IT'S SAD, BUT IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. 
          NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVER PLAN ON BRINGING BACK, BECAUSE I'LL BE THE FIRST IN LINE TO WRITE A GRANT FOR IT, BUT CURRENTLY IT'S, WELL, I KNOW RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, UH, IT'S SAID HOPEFULLY BY 2027 THINGS MAY TURN AROUND A LITTLE BIT. 
          I KNOW  AGAIN, YOU LET, YOU LET ME KNOW IF THEY OPENED THAT BACK UP. 
          'CAUSE WE'LL BE FIRST LINE. 
          SO THIS IS NOT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE COULD SPLIT THE COST BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS QUESTION. 
          WE CAN SPLIT THE COSTS. 
          THE THE COST IS, IT'S NOT THE COST ALLOCATION THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          IT'S THE FUND BALANCE AND THE BENCHMARK IN FUND 1 0 6, YOU HIT THAT NUMBER, UH, THIS YEAR WHERE WE NEED TO REPLENISH AND LET THE FUND BILL BACK UP, WHICH IS WHY I WAS GET IN MY NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL ASK FOR IT. 
          WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE TRYING. 
          , I APPRECIATE AND YOU GUYS ARE, YOU GUYS HAVE NEVER DONE US WRONG IN THAT ASPECT. 
          WE DON'T EVER SIT HERE AND AFRAID YOU'RE GONNA TELL US THAT YOU GUYS ARE GREAT IN SUPPORTING WHAT WE NEED AND WE TRY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF, OF THAT, UM, AND, AND THE TAXPAYER MONEY. 
          SO IT, IT WOULD, IT IS A WANT. 
          IT'S NOT A NEED. 
          UM, WE WANT IT AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET THERE. 
          AND SO WE'LL ASK YOU, KIM, NEXT YEAR, I THINK RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, YOU GUYS, AND SINCE 2019 WHEN I TOOK OVER AS CHIEF HAVE REPLACED ALL THREE OF MY AMBULANCES, WHICH IS JUST UNPRECEDENTED IN THIS, UH, DEPARTMENT THAT WE REPLACED CARDIAC MONITORS. 
          WE HAVE IMPROVED THE PAY FOR MY PARAMEDICS. 
          THEY GET TOP NOTCH TRAINING. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE NEVER TOLD US. 
          NO. 
          SO WE, WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING BIG THIS YEAR. 
          WE'LL WAIT AND, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT WHOLE THING WILL BE IN A BETTER, HOW, HOW ARE OUR, ARE OUR AMBULANCES IN PRETTY DECENT SHAPE? VERY GOOD SHAPE. 
          WE'VE GOT THE FIRST ONE THAT WE PURCHASED, WHEN I SAY, UH, OVERAGE 2019, IT WAS A DEMO UNIT AND WE GOT IT. 
          WE GOT IT CHEAP. 
          AND SO IT'S GOTTA BE FIRST ONE GET REPLACED, BUT I'M THINKING 20 27, 20 28. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO START IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, I DON'T WANNA GET US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE HAD THREE UNITS THAT WERE LITERALLY LIT DUCT TAPE, KEEPING THE WHEEL ON. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO GET US IN A ROTATION OF REPLACING THOSE UNITS BEFORE THEY QUALIFY. 
          BEFORE, BEFORE I HAVE ONLY TWO UNITS BECAUSE I'VE GOT ONE THAT'S COMPLETELY OUTTA SERVICE. 
          AND SO I THINK 2027, WE'LL HAVE TO START TAKING A HARD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SPECKING ONE OUT. 
          BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING GREAT. 
          GOOD. 
          AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE, I KNOW THEY GET A LOT OF USE, SIR. 
          I KNOW THEY GET A LOT OF USE. 
          I SEE 'EM ALL, THEY DO. 
          OUR CALL 
          [03:00:01]
VOLUME HAS BEEN UP THERE. 
          UM, AND IT'S SUMMERTIME AND IT SHOWS AND THEY, I THINK THE COMMUNITY AROUND US, ALL OF US IN GENERAL, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL SEEN IN OUR, SO YES, THEY GET PLENTY, PLENTY OF ROAD TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY MAKE, THEY MAKE AT LEAST THREE TRIPS TO, TO THE VILLAGE ON THE, ON THE CREEK DOWN HERE ABOUT THREE TIMES A DAY, DON'T THEY? THEY, THEY LIKE US THERE. 
          THEY, THEY DON'T LIKE TO LET IT GO TOO FAR BEFORE THEY SAY TIME TO US. 
          SO THEY CALL US ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND THEN THEIR SISTER. 
          HOW, HOW MUCH DID YOU DECREASE YOUR TRAINING BUDGET BY? UH, I TOOK IT FROM 20,000, I THINK I DROPPED IT TO 16. 
          16, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          THAT WAS UNTIL WE, I THINK GOT EVERYBODY TO, I KNOW EVERYBODY. 
          UH, SO WE'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF BASICS LEFT. 
          MOST EVERYBODY ELSE IS ADVANCED. 
          AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE IN PARA MEDICAL SCHOOL RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, IT WAS, WE, WE MAY NEED TO UP IT LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW, 16 IS AMPLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO THE TRAINING THAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          AND SO I WAS LOOKING FOR BUDGET ITEMS THAT I COULD REDUCE WITHOUT BURDENING THE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS A PRIME AREA TO DROP A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY WITHOUT IT BEING A BURDEN ON ME OR MY GUYS. 
          SO YEAH, WE, THAT'S AMPLE MONEY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DID YOU WANT TO DISSUADE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS YOU'RE NOT A LOCKED FIXER? YES. 
          UM, WE DO NOT, WE DO NOT UNLOCK CARS. 
          UH, UNFORTUNATELY, NO MATTER HOW ANGRY IT MAKES SENSE, WE DO NOT UNLOCK CARS. 
          BUT APPARENTLY SOMEBODY TOLD THEM, NOT ONLY DID WE UNLOCK CARS, BUT WE WILL HOLD YOUR GUN  WHAT? SO THAT YOU CAN GO INTO THE PLANT AND THEY WERE, WHAT THEY WERE HANDS DOWN THAT ABSOLUTELY EMS COULD HOLD ONTO THEIR WEAPON SO THEY COULD GO INTO WHY THE HECK WOULD EMS HOLD ONTO IT? ARE PEOPLE CALLING 9 1 1 WITH THIS? NO, NO. 
          WELL, ONE OF 'EM. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THEY DID STRAIGHT CALL STATION AND SAID, HEY, I'M, I'M GONNA COME DROP MY WEAPON OFF. 
          , TAKE, TAKE IT TO PD. 
          NO, YOU'RE NOT. 
          WHY? I WAS TOLD I COULD. 
          I DON'T. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS WRONG. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DON'T WANNA BE WEAPON STORAGE FOR ANYBODY OTHER THAN AROUND, SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          I CAN'T EVEN CALL A WEAPON HERE, SIR, YOU'RE NOT BRINGING YOUR WEAPON HERE. 
           MISINFORMATION OUT THERE. 
          SO NO, THE PD ONLY UNLOCKS FOR LIKE EMERGENCIES, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE NOT A LOCKSMITH SERVICE. 
          DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT SERVICE. 
          WE ALL JUST KIND UNLOCK A BAR. 
          IT'S . 
          WE HAVE. 
          YEAH, BUT WE'RE NOT, THEY DO NOT. 
          WE, WE DON'T, IN THIS CASE, SOMEBODY CALLED 9 1 1 UNDER ONE PRECENSE. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THERE, THEY WANTED US TO REACH THE DOOR FOR WOW. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          DID YOU  SO NEAR EVERYTHING I'D HAVE PUT MY FIST THROUGH THE WINDOW AND BEEN LIKE, IT'S UNLOCKED. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          LIKE I SAID EARLIER, COMMON SENSE HAS GONE OUT THE WINDOW. 
          ABSOLUTELY HAS. 
          YEAH. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR EM? S NOPE. 
          NO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM. 
          Y'ALL DO A GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE MY RIDE I HAD LAST YEAR,  MAYOR. 
          I'M GLAD YOU TOUCHED ON THAT. 
          DID I SAY ONE OTHER THING? OUR BILLING SERVICE HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER. 
          UM, WE ARE DOING REVENUE COLLECTION PERCENTAGE WISE IS THE HIGHEST IT'S BEEN SINCE I JOINED US. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT, UH, I KNOW IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR YES, 20 YEARS. 
          UH, BUT THEY'VE BEEN FASTER AND BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT, WHICH IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. 
          GOOD. 
          WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE INTO QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          UH, THIS IS THE LIBRARY PARKS GREAT. 
          TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL, HOT C-V-B-E-D-C, ALL THE COOL STUFF. 
          ALL THE FUN STUFF. 
          THE MINISTRY OF FUN WE LIKE TO CALL IT. 
          DO WE YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK OR YOU NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT GOT, UH, WITH THAT LIBRARY FUND, WE DID INCREASE SLIGHTLY, UH, THAT INCREASES DUE TO OPERATIONAL COSTS. 
          UH, WE DO IN CON, UH, SHOULD HAVE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WERE LINED OUT, FINISHED, UH, THE BACK DOOR, THE FRONT DOOR AND THE OTHER, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          MOVING ON PARTS. 
          WILL YOU READY TO COME UP? NO, SIR. 
          NO, WE DID NOT. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO AS, UH, REPORTED IN THE, UH, IN A PRELIMINARY, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, THE BROAD OVERVIEW, WE DO ANTICIPATE ADDING UP, UH, ANOTHER POSITION MID-YEAR. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ARE, UH, SINCE WE BROUGHT RACHEL ON BOARD. 
          YEAH, THAT'S BIG NEWS FOR ME. 
          I HAVEN'T HEAR THAT YET. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, YOU DIDN'T READ? 
          [03:05:01]
YEAH, NO, THAT'S IN THERE. 
          I MISSED IT. 
          OH, CONGRATULATIONS. 
          UH, I WAS ASKING FOR THE OTHER DAY. 
          YEAH. 
          MY MATH WORKED OUT. 
          SO, UH, WE, UH, THE OTHER THING IS, IS RACHEL GOT HERE AND SHE WAS REALLY MEAN AND MADE US TAKE, UH, CHRISTMAS IN THE PARK OUT OF THE, UH, HOT FUND AND OVER TO THE PARK. 
          THAT WAS ME. 
          OH, THAT WAS COREY. 
          IT DIDN'T FIT THERE. 
          YEAH, IT DID NOT FIT. 
          SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S BEEN MOVED OVER. 
          UM, GONNA TRY AND DEFLECT YOUR INJURY. 
          YEAH, I KNOW. 
          SO JUST NEEDED TO MOVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, OTHERWISE OPERATIONAL COSTS HAVE PRETTY MUCH STAYED THE SAME. 
          UM, CAPITAL EXPENDITURE WISE, DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE? SURE. 
          SO CONTINUING ON WITH OUR, WITH OUR PARKS IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, WE'LL BE UPGRADING AT HARDY, NO, NOT AT HARDY, UH, AT WILSON AND BROADISH PLAYGROUNDS AND SUCH THIS YEAR, UM, THAT'LL ROUND OUT ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS IN THE CITY BEING LESS THAN 10 YEARS OLD. 
          UM, SO WE'RE REPLACING SOME YOU THAT HAVE BEEN 25 PLUS YEARS OLD. 
          THIS WILL BE THE LAST ROUND OF PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS TO BRING ALL THAT UP TO SPEED. 
          UM, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, WE'LL START INTO SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS IN THAT PLAN WITH THE NEW SIGNAGE, START TRYING TO WORK IN THE TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED. 
          SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE SUPPORT THESE LAST COUPLE YEARS SO WE CAN UPGRADE THESE FACILITIES AND BRING 'EM, BRING 'EM UP TO SPEED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING WITH THAT, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THE LAST I THINK EITHER TWO OR THREE BUDGETS TO GET, UH, GRANTS FROM GAME TIME PLAYGROUND CORPORATION, THAT SHOULD BE OPEN AGAIN THIS FALL. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN OFFSET SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THIS PLAYGROUND MONEY, UH, WITH GRANT FUNDS. 
          AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE DONE A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN, IN GRANTS ON, IN PLAYGROUND GRANTS THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UM, AND I SAID THAT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, ELSE IS, IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH, WITH THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          NO, NO BIG CHANGES. 
          AND YOU FINALLY HAVE A WORKING HVAC SYSTEM. 
          WE DO. 
          UH, THE, THE CHILLER PROJECT WAS COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND IT HAS BEEN WORKING VERY WELL. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT SOME SOFTWARE ISSUES, BUT IT'S NOT JUST RELATED TO THAT ALL AROUND, BUT WE'VE PATCHED THROUGH 'EM AND WORKING 'EM OUT NOW. 
          BUT NO, THAT, THAT WAS A GREAT PROJECT. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO CLIMB UP IN THE ATTIC TWO OR THREE TIMES A DAY TO RESET CHILLERS AND BLOWERS AND MOTORS AND OH MY GOD. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S HELPED US OUT QUITE A BIT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON PARKS? NO. 
          I MEAN, Y'ALL DID A GOOD JOB. 
          YEAH, WE CAN MOVE THE MOSQUITO FIST. 
          SORRY. 
          WHAT'S THAT, ERIC? I'M SORRY. 
          I SAID Y'ALL DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE PARKS IMPROVEMENT THIS PAST YEAR, SO I APPRECIATE IT. 
          MADDEN. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I GUESS I SHOULD MENTION THAT CJ DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON TOO MUCH. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH AND LOOKING AT AUTOMATED MOWING SYSTEMS. UM, SO WE, I KNOW WE LEFT SOME OF THE MONEY IN THERE LABELED FOR MOWING OR CONTRACTOR STUFF, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME WAYS THAT, THAT MAY BE AT THE SMALLER PARKS THAT WE CAN PUT AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM THERE THAT KIND OF HANDLES IT ON ITS OWN. 
          IT'LL BE GPS PROGRAMMED AND, AND KIND OF GUIDE IT. 
          IT WILL CHARGE ITSELF ON SITE, UM, AS A WAY TO HELP US, YOU KNOW, GET, GET MORE THINGS DONE AT ONCE. 
          SO WE'RE, WE NORMALLY MIGHT HAVE TO SEND, YOU KNOW, TWO PEOPLE, BASICALLY THE WHOLE CREW RIGHT NOW TO A PARK TO MOW AND TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          UM, NOW WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET THINGS SET UP TO HAVE, HAVE THE ROBOT THERE AND THE CREWS CAN GO TO ANOTHER PLACE OR, OR DO SOME OTHER WORK AT THE SAME TIME. 
          UM, SO THAT'S BEEN PRETTY INTERESTING. 
          BUT I'M HOPING WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT ONLINE DURING THIS BUDGET YEAR AS WELL. 
          AND I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, THE CITY OF JERSEY VILLAGE ACTUALLY, THEY'VE, MAN, THEY'VE LIKE, THEY'RE LOT A LITTLE, I ACTUALLY HAVE MORE CAFFEINE IN MY SYSTEM NOW, AND I STILL CAN TALK, SO MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. 
          MAYBE IT'S ME. 
          COMMON DENOMINATOR, RIGHT? UH, NO, UH, CITY OF JERSEY VILLAGE HAS MADE THIS TRANSITION. 
          THEY'RE USING, BASICALLY, I THINK THEY'VE PAIRED THEIR, THEY'VE GOT MAYBE THREE OPERATORS THAT CONTROL SIX DIFFERENT REMOTE CONTROL MOWERS OUT IN THE FIELD. 
          AND THEN THEIR PARKS AND THEIR GOLF COURSE ARE ALL HANDLED BY ONE PERSON AND ABOUT 14 ROBOTS. 
          AND THEY ALL MOW WEED, EAT LANDSCAPE THAT AREA UNDER THAT SUPERVISION. 
          AND IT'S AUTOMATED. 
          SO, DANG JERSEY VILLAGE, THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP. 
          I'M LIKE FEELING KIND, PROUD RIGHT NOW. 
          DON'T, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE MY GOOD FRIEND AUSTIN, PLEASE, A BIG HEAD. 
          BUT THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB OF FIGURING OUT BETTER WAYS TO SKIN CATS FOR A WHILE NOW. 
          AND YEAH, SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE DEFINITELY STEPPED UP THEIR GAME. 
          UH, AND THE BEAUTY OF THOSE SYSTEMS IS, IS THEY, THEY DO HAVE A POWER LEAD IN, BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY SOLAR POWERED. 
          SO IT'S, THEY GO IN, THEY POWER BANK UP, THE SUN RECHARGES THE BATTERY WHILE THEY'RE OUT MOWING, THEY GO BACK IN AND THEN THEY RECHARGE. 
          AND THERE'S THAT VERY LITTLE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ELECTRICITY TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM. 
          NO, I GUESS, UH, THE, THE, SOME OF THE RESEARCH, THE REPORTS THAT I'VE PUT TOGETHER AND SHARED WITH CJ OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, UM, YOU 
          [03:10:01]
KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF A NEW MOWER AT ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15, $16,000 MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE, THE SETUP FOR ONE OF THESE AUTOMATED UNITS IS ABOUT HALF OF THAT SIX, ABOUT $6,000. 
          UM, THE UNITS THEMSELVES ARE ABOUT THREE, THREE TO FOUR. 
          UM, SO ONCE THE INITIAL SETUP'S DONE, YOU CAN START ADDING OTHER UNITS AND KIND OF SCALING THE SYSTEM UP. 
          UM, BUT THE, THE ROI ON THAT IS, IS LESS THAN FIVE YEARS TO PAY FOR ITSELF IN AND LABOR AND FUEL AND MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, YOU DON'T HAVE BENEFIT COST EITHER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I, I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE. 
          I'M NOT, MAYBE SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, I TOLD CJ THOUGH, UM, I'M NOT FULLY CONVINCED THE TECHNOLOGY IS, IS WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE OR WHERE WE IMAGINE IT TO BE, BUT IT'S GETTING REALLY CLOSE AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND WAYS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE IT MOVING FORWARD. 
          GOOD THING ABOUT MOST OF OURS ARE FLAT. 
          YES. 
          THAT HELPS . 
          ALTHOUGH A LOT OF THESE SYSTEMS THOUGH, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RATED UP TO LIKE A 15 TO 20 DEGREE SLOPE TO GET IN. 
          THEY CAN DO DITCHES, THEY CAN COVER SOME RUTS AND ROUGH TERRAIN AND, UM, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT'S THE LIKE, BUT IMPRESSIVE VIDEOS VERSUS REAL LIFE IS USUALLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT TOO. 
          SO YEAH. 
          WHAT'S THE SECURITY LEVEL ON THESE? LIKE, ARE PEOPLE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND TAMPER WITH THEM OR, THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN? YES. 
          UM, THE SYSTEM THAT HUSS MARTIN MAKES THE SYSTEM I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT MOSTLY, UM, THE UNITS WHEN I REALIZED THAT THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT 30 POUNDS WAS KIND OF SCARY. 
          YEAH. 
          SOMEBODY JUST RUN THROUGH THE PARK, PICK IT OUT. 
          UM, BUT SO THEY ARE ALL GPS MONITORED AND ALARMED IF THEY'RE TAKEN OFF OF THEIR AREA, THEY SOUND AN AUDIBLE ALARM, THEY SEND AN ALERT, UM, THEY'RE ALSO PIN AND PASSWORD PROTECTED. 
          SO EVEN IF YOU GOT IT HOME AND WERE ABLE TO CUT THE SPEAKER OR WHATEVER, YOU CAN'T OPERATE IT, YOU CAN'T GET INTO IT. 
          YOU CAN'T MAKE IT RUN AT YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT GETTING THROUGH THE PEN AND THE PASSWORD TO GET INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          SO, UM, THE POTENTIAL'S THERE, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE FOR SOMEBODY TO PICK IT UP AND WALK AWAY. 
          UM, BUT IT IS, AND IT MAY HAPPEN, BUT I, I THINK THOSE FOLKS WOULD LEARN VERY QUICKLY. 
          THERE'S NO VALUE IN THAT. 
          'CAUSE THE UNIT IS USELESS ONCE IT LEAVES ITS DESIGNATED AREA. 
          COOL. 
          THIS WILL NOT WORK . 
          YEAH. 
          DON'T TRY IT. 
          WELL, BECAUSE, BECAUSE FOLKS ALWAYS READ THE SIGNS. 
          SO, I MEAN, AND THAT'S HONESTLY A CONCERN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT ERIC AND I HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT, THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND STUFF WE PUT IN AT THE PARK LAST YEAR, LESS THAN A MONTH AFTER THEY WENT IN, ALL THE, ALL THE RIMS WERE BROKEN. 
          THE RIMS WERE RIPPED DOWN. 
          UM, WE'VE SPENT OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REPLACE THAT ON A BRAND NEW PROJECT. 
          'CAUSE I MEAN, PEOPLE DESTROY STUFF. 
          SO THAT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN AND SOMETHING THAT WE TRY TO MITIGATE AND FIND WAYS TO WORK AROUND. 
          IS THAT, WAS THAT, WELL, DO WE KNOW IT WAS THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO DUNK AND HANG ON IT OR? MM-HMM. 
          SO I MEAN, AND, AND WE PUT STUFF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDED THE TRIPLE SPRING, DOUBLE RIM BREAKAWAYS. 
          I MEAN, THEY, THEY WERE EXPECTING RIMS, BUT I HOPE IT WILL LAST A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'VE REPLACED CLOTH NETS WITH METAL NETS, WITH CHAIN NETS AND JUST, UH, STUFF THAT MAYBE DOESN'T LOOK AS NICE, BUT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DURABLE AND PROTECTED FROM VANDALISM AND MISCHIEF. 
          AND FOR THE RECORD, I, I JUST FLOATERS, THAT'S ALL I WORK ON. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO NOT KNOW , IT'S UH, NO, I, THE REALITY IS, IS KIDS ARE GONNA KID. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY'RE GONNA FIND A WAY. 
          YET MY, I THINK IT WAS MY DAD THAT TOLD ME, IF, IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BREAK AN ANVIL AS A KID, YOU'RE GONNA DO IT. 
          SO MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S, YEAH. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THE ONLY, THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I WOULD HAVE IS, AND CJ WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS THE MOWING. 
          I MEAN THE, YEAH. 
          THE, WE, WE SET THAT MONEY IN LAST YEAR TO GO FIND ABOUT WAYS TO HELP OUR DEPARTMENTS WITH THE MOWING, WHETHER IT BE CONTRACTING OR DO SOMETHING. 
          I MEAN, WE PUT, WHAT, 470 AROUND THAT BUDGET IN AND I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE EVER DID ANYTHING WITH IT, SO. 
          WELL WE, YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT SOME OF IT, BUT NOT NEAR ENOUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHATEVER YOU THINK IS, WILL BE USEFUL. 
          I MEAN, I, I WANT IT TO HAPPEN JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVE THAT MONEY IN THERE FOR THAT REASON. 
          AND I, AT LEAST FOR ME, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I GET TEXTS ABOUT THE MOST IS, HEY, WHY ARE, WHY, WHY DO OUR, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ABOUT OUR PARKS MUCH BECAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT WE CAN TRY. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, KEEPING UP WITH IT. 
          UH, BUT I MEAN, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GET THE MOST IS WHY IS WHY IS IT ALWAYS OVERGROWN? WHY DOES THE CITY LOOK LIKE THIS? WHY DOES LANDSCAPE, I MEAN, AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS GET THE SAME THING TOO, BUT I MEAN, MONEY'S IN THERE FOR THAT REASON. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR WE CAN FIND, IF IT'S NOT CONTRACTING, IF WE CAN FIND SOMETHING AUTOMATED OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL MULTIPLY OUR FORCES. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT DOING THE RESEARCH AND LOOKING INTO THIS AND TRYING TO PUT SOME OF IT INTO ACTION. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ON THE, THE FEWER VOLUME OF  OF CALLS YOU GET. 
          UM, AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, Y'ALL SAW HOW BIG MY SMILE GOT WHEN I HEARD 
          [03:15:01]
THAT THERE WAS A, A POSITION AVAILABLE IN MID-YEAR. 
          SO YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ALL MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND MAKING THINGS BETTER. 
          SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO ON THAT FRONT, I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND TALKING ABOUT THAT, HOW, AND I FORGOT TO ASK JOHN THE SAME QUESTION. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THAT BUDGET LOOKING LIKE? DID WE LEAVE IT AT THE SAME, YOU CARRIED THE SAME NUMBERS FORWARD NOW INSTEAD OF SHOWING UP IN FOUR 11, IT SHOWS UP IN FUND 4 0 5 ON JOHN'S SIDE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WILL SIDE, IT'S STILL THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, I MEAN THE, BASICALLY ALL THAT WE HAVE LEFT FOR, FOR THE YOUTH IS OUR PARKS. 
          I MEAN, OUR LITTLE LEAGUE PROGRAMS ARE GONE, OUR SOFTBALL PROGRAMS ARE GONE. 
          SO BASICALLY ALL WE HAVE IS A PARK. 
          SO WE GOT, WE HAVE TO TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE GOT. 
          POOL'S GONE. 
          , I WAS GONNA SAY, NOTHING WAS MENTIONED ABOUT POOL, BUT THERE YOU GO. 
          WELL, YEAH, WE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CIP DISCUSSIONS, THE MORE WE LOOKED AT IT, THERE'S JUST THAT, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE OH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          BOND ISSUE. 
          AND I GUESS WE KIND OF MISSED IT TOO, IF Y'ALL DIDN'T NOTICE. 
          UH, WE DID PUT MONEY IN THE PARKS BUDGET THIS YEAR TO, TO, AT THE VERY MINIMUM FILL IN THE POOL THAT'S UP THERE RIGHT NOW JUST TO ALLEVIATE THE SAFETY ISSUES. 
          UM, GATES, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES. 
          THE LOCKS ARE GETTING CUT, THE GATES ARE GETTING OPEN, THE FENCES ARE GETTING PULLED UP. 
          UM, SO IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. 
          IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALMOST CONSTANTLY RUNNING PUMPS OVER THERE EVERY TIME IT RAINS TO, TO GET NASTY DIRTY WATER OUT. 
          UM, SO WHATEVER THE FUTURE HOLDS OVER THERE, I THINK IN THE MEANTIME IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO, TO PUT SOME, SOME DIRT IN THAT HOLE, LEVEL IT OFF AND, AND, AND GET RID OF SOME OF THE, THE LIABILITIES AND THE ISSUES. 
          WITH THAT BE SAID, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD PILE OF DIRT DOWN AT, UH, AT BRAESWOOD AND OLD ANGLETON. 
          YES. 
          I'M NOT, IS THAT OUR, I'M NOT SURE THAT BELONGS TO US. 
          . 
          WE BOUGHT IT. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT CORNER LOT, THAT BLOCK. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          WE PILED, WE PILED A BUNCH OF DIRT ON IT. 
          YEAH, WE DID. 
          WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF WE NEED, IF WE NEED SOME DIRT, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT FROM THERE. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE GOT SOME MIGHT BE ABLE TO TALK TO JEFF TOO. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          WELL, YEAH, BUT THEY'VE STILL GOT MORE THAT'S GONNA COME OUT SO WE, WE CAN TALK TO THE SCHOOL BY GETTING THEIR TAILINGS AS WELL. 
          SO. 
          YEAH. 
          ARE YOU PUTTING ANY MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THIS HERE OR NO? NOT CURRENTLY. 
          NOT CURRENT. 
          NO. 
          I, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL FINISH UP THE PLAYGROUNDS WITH THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, I THINK THE NEXT ROUND OF STUFF WILL, WE WILL, WE WILL FOCUS ON THE TRAILS AND RESTROOMS AND PARKING LOTS THAT ARE INCLUDED. 
          THE PARKS PLAN. 
          OH, RESTROOMS WOULD BE BIG. 
          I THOUGHT MILSTEAD WAS GONNA GET ONE. 
          NO, THOSE WHAT'S THAT? I SAID WASN'T MILSTEAD GONNA GO? YOU'VE GOT A, YEAH, SO YOU'VE GOT $150,000 AT MILSTEAD TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND PROBABLY, I MEAN, WE, WE STARTED IT ON THE, THE ENGINEERING AND STUFF FOR THE FISH AND PIER AND A SIDEWALK ADDITION. 
          UM, MY PLAN WAS WE, WE BASICALLY CARRY THAT MONEY OVER AND FINISH THAT PROJECT IN THIS BUDGET. 
          AND, UM, I MEAN WE, WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE PARKS PLAN. 
          I'VE GOT A SIX YEAR PLAN MAPPED OUT. 
          WE'RE IN YEAR THREE OF IT. 
          UM, SO HOWEVER Y'ALL WOULD LIKE US TO PROCEED, BUT I'LL SAY THURSDAY, I GUESS IT WAS THURSDAY AFTERNOON WHEN WE, I SPENT SEVERAL HOURS OUT. 
          WE WERE MEASURING FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS AND GETTING STUFF STARTED FOR THIS. 
          UM, AND I GOT BACK TO THE OFFICE. 
          I TOLD MICHELLE, I SAID, I, I REALLY SEE THE NEED FOR SOME MORE BATHROOMS IN THE PARKS. 
          'CAUSE YEAH, I WAS, I WAS NEARLY FLOATING BY THE TIME I GOT BACK TO THE OFFICE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          THAT IS IMPORTANT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK BOTH PARKS SHOULD HAVE  AND I WILL SAY MY SON EVERY YEAR ASKS ME ABOUT TO SAY THIS, THAT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET TO HAVE A VIDEO ARCADE. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THAT FOR MY SON, SO HE KNOWS IT'S ON THE RECORD. 
          I ASKED FOR ONE. 
          MR. H JR JUST LIT UP  A VIDEO ARCADE WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I'M JUST SAYING . 
          UH, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION. 
          WHAT WAS IT? UH, HOW IS OUR, HOW, HOW IS OUR GYM EQUIPMENT HOLDING UP REALLY WELL? UH, WE DO A QUARTERLY MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WHERE THE, THE MANUFACTURERS COME IN, DO, DO PMS ON IT, YOU KNOW, THREE TIMES A YEAR OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR, I GUESS QUARTERLY. 
          UM, THE GOOD THING, I, I GUESS IT'S ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CATCH 20 TWOS. 
          THE GOOD THING IS, UM, I MEAN WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS OVER THERE. 
          I THINK EACH MONTH WE AVERAGE ABOUT 750 VISITS. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T GET THE USE THAT, YOU KNOW, A FITNESS CLUB OR, OR ONE OF THOSE GETS, AND I HATE TO MAKE COMPARISONS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN ANGLETON, WE REPLACED EQUIPMENT LIKE EVERY THREE TO FOUR YEARS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. 
          BE BUT WOULD REPLACE A TREADMILL IN THREE YEARS. 
          IT WOULD LITERALLY HAVE 21 TO 40,000 MILES ON IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, ELLIPTICAL MIGHT HAVE 10 MILLION STEPS IN THAT, IN THAT TIMEFRAME OR WE'RE, WE'RE JUST MUCH LOWER VOLUME. 
          SO IT LASTS A LOT LONGER FOR US. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S APPROACH TO 10 YEARS OLD, ISN'T IT? JUST ABOUT, I MEAN, THE CENTER OPENED IN 13. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SO THIS, THE BUILDING IS 
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12 YEARS OLD. 
          I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE REPLACEMENT CYCLES WE'VE ADDED, ADDED AND REPLACED PIECES AS NEEDED. 
          BUT WE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR NEEDING TO DO A FULL, A FULL SCALE WHOLESALE REPLACEMENT OF EVERYTHING. 
          WE MIGHT JUST START PICKING AND CHOOSING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND WE DO WHEN WE NEED TO A YEAR. 
          WELL, NOT EVEN AS REALLY NEED TO. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL YOU GOTTA REPLACE IT. 
          JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST PUT ONE IN THE BUDGET A YEAR MAYBE. 
          UM, JUST AS A, IF IT DON'T HAVE TO BE REPLACED, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT. 
          BUT IF IT HAS, IF IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, YOU HAVE THE MONEY REPLACED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND WE DO, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT AND THE EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND SO, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I CAN LOOK AT CALENDAR GETTING A ROTATION GOING FOR SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IS, YOU KNOW, THE TREADMILL THESE DAYS IS ABOUT $10,000. 
          DANG. 
          I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL DO WITH A FEW PEOPLE THAT YOU DO IT WITH. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK Y'ALL FOR THE SUPPORT AND YEAH, I MEAN, I MADE A COMMENT THE OTHER NIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A, A SMALL BUT MIGHTY TEAM AND THEY, I'M GONNA SAY THEY, THEY WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF EVERY DAY AND, AND TRY TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PARTS BEFORE WE JUMP INTO GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL IF Y'ALL MAKE IT TO AUGUST THE FIRST, THAT'D BE A GOOD THING. 
          , IF WE MAKE IT TO JULY 27TH, IT'LL BE A GOOD THING. 
          SO, UH, HOLD ON. 
          LEMME GET TO OUR REVENUES. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          UH, WILL AND HIS TEAM WORK REALLY, REALLY HARD, UH, ON SPONSORSHIPS AND THAT'S PAID FRUITION AS BEEN EVIDENCED BY OUR VISIT FROM EASF IN, WHAT WAS THAT? IT SEEMS LIKE SIX MONTHS AGO, BUT I WAS, IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO SIX MONTHS AGO,  IN BUDGET YEAR TERMS. UH, BUT NO, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB THERE. 
          UH, DO YOU KIND OF WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON THIS YEAR? SURE. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBERS UP THERE, THERE A LITTLE BIT WONKY, BUT, UM, WE TYPICALLY BUDGET, UH, ABOUT $45,000 IN REVENUE TO COME IN FOR SPONSORSHIPS. 
          UM, THE LAST COUPLE YEARS I'VE CHALLENGED MICHELLE AND TOLD HER THAT WE, WE WANT TO SEE THAT CLOSER TO 60, UM, LAST COUNT THIS YEAR WITH CASH DONATIONS AND IN KINDS, WE'RE ALMOST PUSHING 70. 
          UM, SO THE SUPPORT IS THERE, THE COMMUNITY THERE, MICHELLE AND MICHELLE AND HER TEAM ARE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB ON, ON REACHING OUT AND WORKING WITH THESE FOLKS AND GETTING THE SPONSORSHIPS IN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ERIC HELPED US OUT MAKING THE CONNECTION AND PUTTING THIS WITH BASF THIS YEAR. 
          UM, FESTIVALS COMING ALONG. 
          UH, WE ARE, SEE THURSDAY WAS TWO WEEKS OUT, SO WE'RE 12 DAYS, 11 DAYS OUT FROM, FROM KICKING OFF. 
          UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, I HOPE WE ALL KNOW, UH, WITH THE BASF SPONSORSHIP, THURSDAY NIGHT WILL BE NO ADMISSION, COMPLETELY FREE AT THE GATES FOR EVERYBODY TO GET IN. 
          UM, WE'LL HAVE TWO, TWO LOCAL BANDS THURSDAY NIGHT, 80 PLUS AND DIRTY UNCLES, KIND OF SOME EIGHTIES ROCK AND ROLL, REALLY GOOD COVER COVER BANDS. 
          UM, FRIDAY NIGHT WILL BE OUR, OUR COUNTRY NIGHT. 
          WE'VE GOT A TAYLOR SWIFT COVER BAND OPEN IN THE EVENING. 
          WE'VE GOT EASTON CORBIN AND RANDALL KING ROUNDING OUT THE NIGHT. 
          AND THEN ON SATURDAY WILL BE OUR, AND I'M, I'M ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED THAT THE BOARD, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE HISPANIC HERITAGE NIGHT FROM, WE STARTED ON THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND NOW SATURDAY. 
          UM, THAT'S BEEN OUR BIGGEST NIGHT OF THE FESTIVAL EVERY YEAR I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          UH, SO TO BE ABLE TO, TO MOVE IT TO SATURDAY, I THINK IS GONNA BE A BIG BENEFIT FOR THE EVENT FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT THREE BANDS THAT NIGHT, THE SOUTH TEXAS HOMIES, LAIA AND ME, I'M ANTHONY. 
          THOSE WILL BE OUR THREE BANDS THAT NIGHT. 
          UH, COOK-OFFS GO EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE 5K, THE TURN TO THE WASHERS, THE HORSESHOE, THE CORN HOLE. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S SHAPING ENOUGH TO BE A, TO BE A REALLY GOOD YEAR. 
          AND I'M, OTHER THAN HEARING TRIPLE DIGITS COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS ON THE, ON THE WEATHER FORECAST, I'M SUPER EXCITED FOR IT. 
          BUT WE HAVE A HEAT RIDER ON THE, WE DO HAVE HEAT INDEX INSURANCE. 
          IF WE HIT A HUNDRED, 106 HEAT INDEX ON ANY DAY OF THE FESTIVAL, WE GET AN INSURANCE CLAIM. 
          UM, I THINK IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, 20, 22, EITHER 21 OR 22, WE HIT THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE EVENT, UM, WHICH WAS A, A VERY NICE PAYOUT. 
          UM, LAST YEAR THAT WOULD'VE BEEN 22, 23. 
          WE GOT A LITTLE BIT ONE DAY WE HIT OUR RAIN. 
          SO WE GOT, UH, THE RAIN PAYOUT LAST YEAR. 
          OBVIOUSLY THE HURRICANE, WE ARE ABLE TO CANCEL THOSE PREMIUMS AND GET THOSE REFUNDED. 
          SO WE DIDN'T LOSE THAT LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. 
          UH, THIS YEAR. 
          WE ALSO, WE, WE'VE GOT IT AGAIN. 
          WE'VE GOT THE RAIN, WE'VE GOT THE HEAT, SO, UM, WHICHEVER WAY THE WEATHER WANTS TO GO, HOPEFULLY IT'LL, HOW ARE YOU ON VOLUNTEERS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS? DO YOU NEED VOLUNTEERS? UH, WE ALWAYS NEED VOLUNTEERS. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY THERE'S NO MAJOR HOLES OR 
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PRESSING NEEDS RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HELP OUT, WE ALWAYS HAVE A NEED AND CAN AND CAN FIND A JOB FOR 'EM. 
          I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED THE TICKET, UH, THE, THE BEER TOKEN BOOTHS. 
          IT'S JUST FUN. 
          SO I WOULD TELL YOU, UH, THURSDAY NIGHT IF YOU WANTED TO, TO HELP OUT FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, WITH SEVERAL GROUP LULAC, THE HISPANIC CHAMBER, SEVERAL OF THOSE GROUPS, AND THEY'RE GONNA MAN IT FOR US FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY NIGHT. 
          UM, THE BAR, THE TOKEN BOOTH AND THE TOURNAMENT BOOTH, UM, THURSDAY NIGHT JUST BEING KIND OF OPENING NIGHT AND TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE OTHER NIGHTS. 
          WE'RE GONNA MANAGE IT WITH OUR CORE GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD BE A DEFINITE A NIGHT IF YOU WANTED TO. 
          I'D LOVE TO COME GET, GET IN. 
          THERE'D LOVE TO. 
          WE WELCOME IT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE AIR CONDITIONING IN THOSE TICKET BOOTHS NOW. 
          OH, WELL. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT SITTING IN A CHICKEN COOP ANYMORE. 
          WE, WE'VE GOT LIGHTS AND AIR CONDITIONS FOR YOU. 
          IT WAS FUNNY EVEN WHEN IT WAS A TWO . 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          NO, WE HAVE TO COUNT. 
          WE HAVE UPGRADED ELECTRICAL IN THE PARK. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          COOL. 
          WELL, UH, COUNT ME IN FOR THURSDAY NIGHT. 
          NO, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COOL. 
          AND REALLY THERE'S NO, NO MAJOR CHANGES IN THE BUDGET. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN HOLDING STEADY PRETTY MUCH THE LAST THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, COSTS GO UP, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO, TO WORK AROUND IT. 
          ENTERTAINMENT, AS ALWAYS IS THE, THE SINGLE BIGGEST COST. 
          WHO'S THAT? YOUR SPONSOR? WHO'S THAT? WHO'S THE PAPA HEADLINING THIS YEAR? WHO, WHAT ARE THEY? WHAT BRAND? OH, UH, ULTRA ULTRA IS THE, THE BRAND SPONSOR. 
          UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS EXCITED. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS EXCITED TO SEE IT START. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS EXCITED TO GET TO THE END OF SATURDAY NIGHT AS WELL. 
          , THAT'S THE BEST PART OF IT. 
          , I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'M RIGHT BACK OUT THERE AT SEVEN 30 SUNDAY MORNING, MEETING THE, THE COUNTY CLEANUP CREW. 
          SO MONDAY, MONDAY OR TUESDAY IS USUALLY WHEN I CAN TAKE A BREATH AND STAY HOME FOR A DAY OR TWO. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD JOB, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE Y'ALL. 
          THANKS SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO WITH SOPHIA COOPER. 
          YEAH, I FALL ASLEEP. 
          I'M DONE. 
          DONE. 
          NEXT UP IS OUR HOT, FUN, HOT CBB AND, UH, RACHEL JUMPED IN AND FOUND ALL THIS. 
          NO, SHE, UH, SHE'S, SHE'S HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND I WANNA GIVE HER ALL THE CREDIT IN THE WORLD. 
          UH, SHE'S HANDLED THINGS EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THE FUND, UH, WE HAVE DECREASED OUR EXPENDITURE, UH, PROJECTIONS. 
          UH, WE HAVE A SLIGHT UPTICK IN REVENUE THANKS TO DOGGETT DETERMINATION FROM FINANCE AND OUR ATTORNEY, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF IT. 
          AND SO, UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO HOPEFULLY REPLENISH THE FUND JUST A LITTLE BIT GOING INTO THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN START SUPPORTING SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS, THIS, THIS FUNDING. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, WE, UH, PROJECT A SLIGHT UPTICK IN HOTEL MOTEL TAX. 
          UH, WE, UH, ARE GENERATING SOLID INTEREST AND, UH, AND HOPEFULLY THE LATE PENALTIES WON'T BE AS FREQUENT AS THEY HAVE BEEN. 
          SO IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURE, UH, WE'VE GOT THE SAME DEC THE DECORATION BUDGET THAT HAS TO COME OUT, DOESN'T IT? OR DOES IT? YES, YES, YES. 
          THAT, THAT GOES OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'RE SO MEAN. 
          UM, CHAMBERS. 
          WELL, I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT IN THERE. 
          WELL, IT, IT'S JUST THE PARKS. 
          IT'S, IT'S BEEN THERE, BUT IT'S GOTTA MOVE OVER TO PARKS BECAUSE IT'S, UH, PART OF THE CHRISTMAS IN THE PARKS PLATFORM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S NOT AN ALLOWABLE EXPENDITURE. 
          UM, SO, UH, SUPPORT FOR THE VISITORS BUREAU, SUPPORT FOR THE CHAMBER CONTINUES. 
          UH, THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND SCIENCES YOU CAN SEE TAKE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT HU HIT. 
          UH, BUT WE'RE CAPPED UNDER THAT AGREEMENT AT 15% OF TOTAL. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER COMES FROM. 
          UH, IT'S NOT LIKE WE WANT TO CUT THEM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING 'EM THE WAY WE HAD BEEN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, THE CITY MAGAZINE, HAVE THEY DONE ANOTHER, ARE WE LOST OUR PUBLISHER? WEREN'T THEY SUPPOSED TO DO TWO YEARS THOUGH? YEAH, THEY WERE. 
          AND UH, THEN WE HAD TO FALL BACK. 
          I DON'T WHO DID OUR CALENDAR THIS YEAR. 
          OH, SHE'S GONE. 
          SO DID WE PAY THEM THE FULL AMOUNT AND THEY NO. 
          DID THE SECOND YEAR? NO, THEY DID NOT PAY FOR THE FULL, WE PAID FOR THE ONE RUN AND THEN THEY CLOSED UP SHOP AND OKAY. 
          YEAH, NO, WE DIDN'T PAY FOR THE FULL THING AND OH, OKAY. 
          BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEBODY TO PICK THAT METAL UP, BUT OKAY. 
          MOST OF THE PRINT SHOPS, SMALL, SMALL SERVICE 
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PRINT SHOPS LIKE THAT ARE JUST CLOSING THE DOORS, SO. 
          WOW. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON HOT? NO. 
          FINE. 
          AND AS CHIEF ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT, WE'VE BEEN HIDDEN ON THE, ON THE ACTUAL TAX COLLECTION. 
          WE ARE SEEING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CALLS TO THE HOTELS AND MOTELS. 
          THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING WITH THEM. 
          WE HAVE ONE HOTEL THAT HAS A, AN IDEA THAT THEY WANNA CHANGE THE BUSINESS MODEL. 
          UM, BUT WERE YOU ABLE TO DISSUADE HIM OR WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS, I MEAN, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS TO FIND ALTERNATIVE, TO FIND SOMETHING THAT MAYBE MEANINGFULLY IMPACTS THE CITY AND ALSO HELPS MAKE REVENUE ON OUR OWN. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT'S THAT CORRIDOR IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, SO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S STRATEGIC USE FOR THE PROPERTIES OVER THERE. 
          MOVING OVER TO EDC, UH, AS DISCUSSED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE, ON THE, OH YES. 
          THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND SCIENCE IS NOT HERE THIS YEAR. 
          IT IS, IT IS. 
          IT'S $65,000. 
          IS IT ON THE PHONE? YES, IT'S ON. 
          I THOUGHT SO. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, IT'S A LINE OFF, BUT YEAH. 
          'CAUSE IT'S ON THE CHAMBER. 
          OH, YOU YEAH, YOU MOVE IT DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, THAT'S THE $65,000 CHARGE TO THE I'M OFF LINE. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          YEAH, NO, NO, THAT'S, IT'S, I THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO YEAH. 
          UM, SO IF YOU GO BACK, OH YEAH. 
          THE EXPENDITURES ARE, THERE'S THE CBB GETS 25, THE CHAMBER GETS 25, AND THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND SCIENCES GETS 65. 
          IS THAT, WAS THAT REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE TWO 50? THOSE LINES DON'T MATTER. 
          THAT'S, THAT WAS THE CAB. 
          THAT WAS THE CAB THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY SET. 
          THAT'S BEEN RUNNING TWO 50 YEAR OVER YEAR SINCE I'VE GOTTEN HERE. 
          WOW. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SPEND 250,000. 
          NO, OUR TYPICAL, YEAH, IT'S CA AT WE, WE THE MAX AND THE AGREEMENT IS 15% OF THE YEAR ANNUAL TAKE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE WE WERE IN 2018, THAT WAS 15% OF OUR REVENUES. 
          IT KIND OF JUST ILLUSTRATES OR DRIVES HOME THE FACT HOW FAR WE'VE FALLEN IN TERMS OF REVENUE FROM THE HOT FUND. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT CONTRACT AND A PERCENT, YES. 
          15 TO 15% OF TOTAL REVENUE MAX. 
          SO MOVING TO FUND OH SIX AS DISCUSSED IN THE OPENING, UH, WE DO HAVE THE ONE TIME TRANSFER THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE, UH, BACK TO COVER THE MORTGAGE PAY DOWN ON THE KROGER. 
          UH, WE ANTICIPATE A SLIGHT UPTICK IN SALES TAX REVENUE INTEREST INCOME CONTINUES TO REMAIN STRONG. 
          UH, WE HAVE BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THE HIGHER INTEREST RATES. 
          I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY, UH, SHARES THAT JOY, BUT, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S A GOOD THING FOR US. 
          AND THEN MOVING INTO THE, UH, MOVING INTO THE ACTUAL OPERATING BUDGET, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE ONE TIME TRANSFER, UH, THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. 
          UH, OTHERWISE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME. 
          WE HAVE REALLOCATED AND REDUCED SOME OF THE FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS JUST GIVEN THE, THE NATURE OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN FUND BALANCE. 
          UH, WE, AS YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE BACK ON THE FIRST SLIDE, HAVE BROUGHT IT DOWN. 
          WHOOP, WENT TOO FAR, HAVE BROUGHT IT DOWN, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          UH, THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE'RE NOT GETTING THINGS DONE OR WE'RE, BUT WE DO NEED TO START HOLDING BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN LET THAT FUND BUILD BACK UP SO WE CAN START TAKING ON SOME MAJOR PROJECTS. 
          AND AGAIN, DEBT, UH, OUR DEBT SERVICE ON THAT 20 2005 NOTE, UH, HAS BEEN RETIRED THANKFULLY, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE OUTSTANDING NOTE, UH, FROM THE 2013 NOTE, WHICH HELPED FUND THE FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE THAT IS SET TO FALL OFF, UH, IN 2030. 
          BUT THE PAYMENTS ACTUALLY OPPOSITE OF THAT 2007 ISSUE IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          THAT ONE TENDS TO TAIL DOWNWARD. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS OUR MAX CAP ON, UH, PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST. 
          AND THEN IT SHOULD START TO FALL AWAY A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO CITY HALL IS PAID FOR? CITY HALL IS NOW PAID FOR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          JUST IN TIME. 
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NO WONDER IT'S FALLING APART. 
          . 
          , I WAS GONNA SAY, JUST IN TIME FOR THE ROOF TO FAIL. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S FINALLY PAID OFF WHERE WE'LL BE PAID OFF AS OF, UH, SEPTEMBER 30TH THIS YEAR. 
          UH, WE, UH, WE DID INCREASE THE BUDGET OF, WE PUT MONEY IN THERE FOR THE, UH, SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT INCLUDES THE SHANKS LENGTHS IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AS DISCUSSED DURING THE CIP, UH, AND THEN SOME OTHER PROJECTS OR POTENTIAL PROPERTY PURCHASES THAT WE MIGHT TRY TO ENDEAVOR ON AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY AND GAIN CONTROL OF MORE STRATEGIC PIECES AROUND TOWN. 
          AND THEN WE WANTED TO GIVE RACHEL A. LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO DO SOME THINGS. 
          UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR UPGRADES INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT REFLECTED HERE. 
          IT SAID IT'LL SHOW UP IN, UH, IN, UH, IN 4 0 5. 
          IT'S BUDGET IS THE INTRODUCTION OF PLACER AI. 
          UH, AND I'LL LET YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT IT DOES. 
          SURE. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE FUNCTIONING WITH A LOT OF DATA. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE DATA TO KIND OF FIND OUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED. 
          UM, TYPICALLY MOST CITIES USE THE DATA TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES THEY NEED TO RECRUIT. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WAY YOU ALSO GO TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND MAKE THAT BUSINESS CASE FOR IF YOU COME HERE, THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL, THIS IS WHY THIS LOCATION IS MORE STRATEGIC. 
          THIS IS WHY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH OUR CITY IS ONLY 10,000, WE ARE AT A CENTRAL NEXUS WHERE YOU, WE GET, UM, TRAFFICKED FROM FREEPORT WHERE WE GET, WE HAVE THE LAKE JACKSON, WE HAVE RIDGEWOOD SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. 
          YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SHOPPERS ARE NOT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR THEM. 
          THEY'RE GOING FOR WHERE THEY'RE GONNA FIND WHAT THEY NEED VERSUS CITY LIMITS. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THAT. 
          UM, SOFTWARE WILL ALLOW US TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE EVERYONE IS GOING, WHAT ROUTES ARE GOING FROM THE RETAIL PERSPECTIVE. 
          IT'LL BE VERY USEFUL FROM THE HOTEL EXPENDITURES AS WELL. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK WHO EXACTLY HOW FAR OUR, UM, EVERY, UM, OUR VISITORS ARE COMING. 
          SO THAT'LL HELP US BE MORE STRATEGIC IN ADVERTISING. 
          AND AGAIN, AND ALSO WITH LEAKAGE. 
          UM, LEAKAGE IS WHAT'S CALLED WHERE IF SOMETHING'S MISSING FROM YOUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET. 
          SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GROWTH IN SOME PARTS OF THE CITY, MAYBE A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO PAIR LAND FOR SPROUTS. 
          THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THAT'S AN OVER AN HOUR AWAY. 
          THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT COULD SHOW THE NUMBERS, WE CAN MAKE THAT CASE TO A SPROUTS AND SAY, LOOK, WE ARE A GOOD LOCATION. 
          WE'RE ABOUT AN HOUR AWAY FROM YOUR LAST RENEWABLE INTERFERE. 
          AND AS WE GROW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU WILL, THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE LOCATION FOR YOU. 
          SO IT'S PART OF THE MARKETING, BUT IT'S ALSO KIND OF SO THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN THINGS THAT YOU NEED VERSUS JUST KIND OF GUESSING. 
          COULD BE. 
          WE'LL THROW IN ARCADES AND SEE. 
          OR AT ARBY'S, HE WANTS AN ARBY'S TOO. 
          YEAH, ARBY'S IS KILLING IT THIS YEAR. 
          SO IT'S FUNNY ENOUGH, THEY'RE THE ONES, I THINK THEY JUST ACQUIRED HOOTERS. 
          UM, SO WHO KNEW THAT ARBY'S HAD SO MUCH MONEY TO PICK UP HOOTERS? LIKE I THOUGHT MAYBE ARBY'S WITH AN ARCADE. 
          YEAH, I BET YOU WERE GONNA SAY AN ARBY'S WITH THE HOOT. 
          IT WAS FUN. 
           OR ALL THREE IN ONE? I MEAN, HEY, THAT WOULD BE POSITIVE. 
          ARBY'S AN ARCADE. 
          TALK ABOUT A FAMILY EXPERIENCE THERE. 
          . 
          THANK GOD THE CHIEF LEFT. 
          ALL OF YOU THAT BRING THE WHOLE FAMILY. 
          LUCKY THAT THE CHIEF IS NO LONGER HERE. 
          . 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          BRINGING THE WHOLE FAMILY. 
          ISN'T THAT RIGHT? EVERY SENT A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE. 
          YEAH. 
          A COMBO AND THEN PUT IT IN A SHOPPING CENTER WITH SOME OTHER GREAT STORE. 
          SOMETHING FOR MOM TOO. 
          HEY, THERE YOU GO. 
          THAT'S FUNNY. 
          BRING THE MAGIC MIKE REVIEW. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          MAKE IT A FAIR. 
          WE NEED A WE NEED A BLIZZARD. 
          A BLIZZARD. 
          YEAH. 
          WE NEED A DAIRY QUEEN, DAIRY QUEEN. 
          A DAIRY QUEEN, DAIRY QUEEN. 
          WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW THIS, THAT, THIS REALLY, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE JOKING, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING TO GIVE YOU MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF SEMBLA OF HOPE. 
          I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WATCHING A LOT OF GROWTH AROUND US. 
          THE GOOD THING ABOUT GROWTH IS AT A CERTAIN POINT, OTHER PLACES GET CAPPED AND THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE BEST MARKETING, UM, TAGLINE WE CAN HAVE. 
          BUT BEING THE PLACE WHERE THERE DEVELOPMENT IS CYCLICAL. 
          SO AS LONG AS WE'RE SMART AND WE'RE PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO NOT TAKE WHATEVER COMES OUR WAY, BUT BE STRATEGIC IN WHAT WE NEED, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT LEVERAGE AND GROWTH. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THE WHY THAT SOFTWARE IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S AT LEAST MY HOPE FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO THAT WE CAN START GOING FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY VERSUS US BEING RELEGATED TO THIS IS ALL THAT WE CAN TAKE. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THAT DOESN'T HELP US AS A COMMUNITY TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          DO YOU WANNA KIND OF TOUCH ON THE, I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THIS BUDGET NECESSARILY, BUT KIND OF THE VISION FOR 
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ADDITIVE MANUFACTURING? SURE. 
          WELL, WELL, MR. WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRATEGY 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. 
          SO ONE OF THE BIG THREE, UM, WE HAVE THREE IDEAS OF INDUSTRIES WE'D LIKE TO START TARGETING. 
          UM, THE FIRST ONE IS ADDITIVE MANUFACTURING, WHICH IS BASICALLY IN ESSENCE 3D PRINT PRINTING. 
          UM, IT'S AN EARLY STAGE, UM, INDUSTRY THAT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON V TWO B. 
          THE REASON WHY WE FEEL WE HAVE A POTENTIAL ADVANTAGE IS THAT THE US NAVY HAS ACTUALLY BECOME RECENTLY IN THE PAST YEAR, VERY PROACTIVE ABOUT THEY'VE SET SOME TARGETS FOR THEIR MODERNIZING AND CUTTING COSTS WITHIN THEIR SERVICES. 
          SO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO NOW FOCUS ON PROGRAMS AND SUPPLIERS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          ACTUALLY THEY'RE TRYING, THEY'VE ACTUALLY RELEASED A VERY BIG SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR THAT, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE ADDITIVE MANUFACTURING SPACE BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT INSTEAD OF THEY CAN RE UM, REDUCE THEIR OVERHEAD BY PRINTING THE PARTS AND HAVING THEM THERE. 
          SO IF THEY HAVE A PRINTER WITHIN, SAY THE BOATS, THE SUBWAYS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO KIND OF WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO BE SHIPPED AND EXPORTED AND MOVED THERE. 
          SO THAT IS A VERY, IT'S KIND OF, THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER CITY THAT'S REALLY AHEAD. 
          IT'S IN VIRGINIA. 
          THEY ARE VERY ADVANCED IN THAT ADDITIVE MANUFACTURING SPACE, BUT HAVE COMPETING WITH ONE PERSON VERSUS COMPETING WITH EVERYONE FOR ENERGY, FOR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ADVANTAGE THAT WE'RE A PORT, WE ARE A MANUFACTURING HUB. 
          WE ARE ALSO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT IS VERY PROACTIVE WITH, UM, A NEW INDUSTRY. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS IN THE MANUFACTURING OR THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY MOSTLY, OR UM, UM, ADJACENT INDUSTRIES THAT MAY COME WITH THAT. 
          THAT INCLUDES BATTERY MANUFACTURING, THAT INCLUDES JUST BATTERY STORAGE, UM, ENERGY STORAGE AND OTHER SPLINTER BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIES THAT MAY SPRING UP FROM THAT. 
          THE REASON WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S BECOME A PRIORITY FOR, UM, THE AUSTIN AND SORT OF CENTRAL AREA. 
          SO THE IDEA THERE IS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO OUTDO THEM, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE AT LEAST PICK UP SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY MAY WANT. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING FOR BIG THINGS BY BEING IN PROXIMITY TO THAT. 
          AND ALSO, IF THEY ARE GOING FOR THAT, THAT MEANS THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PRO. 
          TYPICALLY, THERE'S PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE IN SUPPORT AT THE STATE LEVEL TO BRING THOSE INDUSTRIES IN. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WATCHING SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON. 
          AND THE THIRD ONE IS HEALTHCARE, UM, OR PHARMACEUTICAL, UM, MANUFACTURING. 
          AND THAT REALLY IS BECAUSE PEARLAND IS, THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT PEARLAND IS DOING. 
          AND THERE AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME THOUGHT. 
          WE ARE CLOSER TO HOUSTON, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MEDICAL HUB. 
          WE ARE STILL, UM, PARALLEL WE KNOW IS GONNA BE, IS MORE ADVANCED THAN ER HAS MORE FUNDING TO ATTRACT THOSE. 
          SO IF WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA BEAT THEM, BUT WE MIGHT GET SOMETHING THAT IS MORE FITTING FOR US VERSUS THEM. 
          AND SO THAT'S SORT OF THE START OF HOW WE CAN GO, GO AHEAD AND BUILD OUT SOME, UM, AND SEE WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          UM, I WILL ADD THAT TYPICALLY IN, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL COMES AT THE END. 
          SO THE WAY THAT YOU START OFF IS THAT YOU START OFF WITH THE, YOU START OFF WITH THE JOBS OR YOU START OFF WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE WORKFORCE. 
          YOU THEN GO INTO THE JOBS THAT MATCH THAT WORKFORCE. 
          YOU GET THE HOUSES AND THEN YOU GET THE RETAIL. 
          SO THAT'S SORT OF AT THE END. 
          UM, SO WE'VE GOT LIKE A PATH TO GO, BUT AT LEAST WE KIND OF KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          SO THAT'S SORT OF THE BROAD VISION OF HOW WE WILL GET TO THAT 550. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AT THE CAP MEETING THE OTHER DAY TOO, WAS THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER HOSPITALS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR AREAS DOWN THIS WAY. 
          SO THAT'S, YEAH. 
          ACTUALLY WHEN WE, UM, WHEN CJ BROUGHT UP THAT PROPERTY, THE KINTA END, AND I MEAN WE'LL BE TRANSPARENT, THEY'RE PROPOSING HOUSING. 
          THEY WANNA, THEY WANNA CONVERT THAT TO HOUSING. 
          THEY WANNA CONVERT THAT POTENTIALLY TO A VETERAN'S, UM, TREATMENT CENTER OR A OTHER TREATMENT CENTER. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF FIND ALTERNATIVE USES, SUCH AS PERHAPS A HOSPITAL WOULD BE THERE, UM, A RETAIL CENTER OR A LARGE SORT OF, UM, RESTAURANT SORT, UM, UH, TRUCK. 
          WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS CALLED? UH OH, UH, UH, TRUCK YARD. 
          BUT BASICALLY TURN IT, CONVERT IT. 
          THEIR IDEA IS TO BRING IN A, A BASICALLY A LOW INCOME HOUSING, WHICH IS DEFINITELY NEEDED. 
          UH, AND THEN POSSIBLY A TREATMENT FACILITY OR TREATMENT, A TREATMENT GEARED, UH, HOUSING CONCEPT ON THAT SITE. 
          MY PROBLEM. 
          AND THE A, THAT REVENUE STREAM IS IFFY AT BEST. 
          AND B, YOU'RE PUTTING THE PROBLEM NEXT TO THE PROBLEM. 
          AND SO WE 
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DON'T SEE IT AS A, AS A VALUE ADD TO THE CITY. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THEM IS POTENTIALLY THERE'S MORE VALUE IN THE RAW LAND AND REDEVELOPING IT UNDER A DIFFERENT MODEL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW. 
          UH, THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THAT CAPITAL, UH, PLANT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE JUST TURNED THE ROOMS OVER, UH, ALLEGEDLY. 
          UM, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS YOU'RE PUTTING BAD MONEY OUT, GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD MONEY UNLESS YOU REALLY DRASTICALLY ENHANCE THAT CORNER. 
          SO, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND POTENTIALLY A, I MEAN, A HOSPITAL NEXT TO HOTELS, MEDICAL TOURISM IS A THING. 
          SO THAT COULD BE VERY WELL BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE GO TO TREAT, GO FOR TREATMENT. 
          UM, I KNOW GALVESTON HAS ACTUALLY REALLY BIG, THAT'S ONE OF THE CORNERSTONES OF THEIR MARKETING PRO PROGRAM. 
          IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT THEIR VISIT GALVESTON AREA, THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT SECTION ON MEDICAL TOURISM AND ALL THE HOSPITALS AND, UM, FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE COMBINED WITH THE HOTEL STAYS AND STUFF. 
          AND HOW YOU CAN MAKE THAT SORT OF SITUATION, UM, THERE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO SEE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO. 
          THE BEING STR, YOU KNOW, TAKING, WORKING TOWARDS WHAT WILL IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY VERSUS JUST TAKING THE FIRST THING THAT'S THERE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUST OUT YOUR PILLOWS 'CAUSE IT'S TIME FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          UH, ADMIN, UH, BASICALLY IS FLAT. 
          UH, THE ONE BIG CHANGES ARE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS HERE AT CITY HALL. 
          MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ADDITION OF THE AADA A COMPLIANCE DOORS AND THEN REMEDIATING THE DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN DONE TO THE ROOF LEAK. 
          UH, SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN FOR RENOVATION AND REMEDIATION. 
          UH, ARE THE A DA DOORS, ARE THEY GONNA BE ON THE FRONT DOORS? THOSE ARE THE HEAVIEST DOORS. 
          YES. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S, SO WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A RETROFIT OF THIS DOOR SYSTEM HERE TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PUSH A BUTTON AND IT OPEN, PUSH A BUTTON OR WALK UP ON, OR HOWEVER IT HAS TO HAPPEN. 
          UH, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE USER FRIENDLY FOR FOLKS IN A WHEELCHAIR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, OR THAT ARE OTHERWISE MOBILITY IMPAIRED. 
          AND ALSO THAT SECURE THEMSELVES A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THESE DOORS DO. 
          'CAUSE ROSIE HAS A CONSTANT, UH, CONSTANT FIGHT, MAKING SURE THAT THE DOORS ARE, ARE ACTUALLY SECURE EVERY TIME SHE CLOSES AND LOCKS 'EM. 
          AH, SO JOE, WHY SO JOE AT THE, YES. 
          YES. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S THE GOAL THERE. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE BASELINE CHANGE TO ADMIN. 
          UH, LOOKING AT YOUR LEGISLATIVE BUDGET, IT TOO IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR. 
          UH, INCLUDES EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WENT DOWN JUST SLIGHTLY, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. 
          THERE WAS , THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE OUT. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          WE, WE DIDN'T NEED. 
          YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UH, I'LL SKIP OVER LEGAL UNTIL MR. DUNCAN GETS BACK IN HERE AND WE'LL MOVE TO MUNICIPAL COURT AGAIN. 
          UH, BASICALLY EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME. 
          WE'VE INCREASED THE KOHLER FOR STAFF OVER THERE, UH, FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN UP THIS YEAR, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT TREND HOLDING TRUE. 
          UH, SO ONLY A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE. 
          NO CAPITAL EXPENDITURES REQUESTED AT THIS TIME. 
          AND THEN, UH, LANDON, SO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE LANDON'S BUDGET EXPLODED. 
          I WOULDN'T SAVE . 
          UH, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS BASICALLY HE'S THE CATCHALL NOW FOR ALL SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY PURCHASES MADE BY ANY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE BUDGETS THAT IN PREVIOUS YEARS WERE IN INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THEY HAVE BEEN DUMPED ON HIM. 
          UH, NOW WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL DATA MIGRATION OR EXPORT FROM CLEAR GOV INTO EXCEL, UH, IT ACTUALLY GOT REALLY EXCITED AND WANTED TO QUADRUPLE HIS BUDGET FROM SEVEN 70 TO FIVE, 5.2 MILLION. 
          UH, BUT IT, AT THE SAME TIME, IT LOWERED THE POLICE BUDGET FROM, UH, FROM RIGHT AT FOUR TO 174,000. 
          WE'RE STILL NOT SURE WHY THAT HAPPENED, BUT, UH, NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE GOT IT FIXED. 
          SO, UH, LANDON'S GOT A LOT OF FORCE, FORCE MULTIPLYING PROJECTS, UH, THAT HE'S WORKING ON AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          AND I'LL KIND OF LET YOU GO INTO DETAIL ON WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE. 
          SO, UM, WELL, UH, STARTING OFF, WE, THIS YEAR WE MOVED, UM, THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE UP TO A NEW UPGRADED SYSTEM. 
          WE'RE NOW RUNNING A 10 GIGABIT NETWORK ON THE BACKBONE. 
          UH, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE 10 GIGABIT GOING TO THE INTERNET. 
          IT MEANS THAT 10 GIG GIGABIT IN THIS BUILDING AND THAT BUILDING AND GOING TO EMS, UH, WE RUN NOW WE'RE RUNNING A ONE GIGABIT CONNECTION UP AND DOWN FOR THE INTERNET. 
          THE REASON THAT'S SIGNIFICANT IS MOVING FORWARD, THE GOAL IS TO BEGIN LOOKING 
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AT AUTOMATION OF, UH, USER DEFINED STUFF. 
          SO, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK THAT GETS HANDED, YOU KNOW, FROM ME TO HER. 
          AND THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING IT'S 'CAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THAT WAY. 
          SO WE'RE MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT AND BEGIN LOOKING AT USING AN INTERNAL AI SYSTEM TO DO THAT. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY, UM, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS I GET AN INVOICE IN MY, IN MY EMAIL BOX. 
          WELL, CURRENTLY IF I GET AN INVOICE, I PRINT IT OUT, I SIGN IT, I HAND IT OVER TO KIM AND KIM, UH, ENTERS IT BACK INTO THE COMPUTER MANUALLY, THEN TAKES A PIECE OF PAPER AND FILES IT. 
          WHY CAN'T I JUST EMAIL THAT, THAT INVOICE AND IT GETS PROCESSED TO HER AND SHE CAN TAKE IT AND SAY, UPLOAD THAT TO THE SYSTEM AND IT DOES IT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOING THAT AND MOVING US IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          , NO, I MEAN, YOU GOT, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE THAT. 
          NO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING MYSELF AT WORK FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          AND, UH, IT TAKES A LONG TIME, BUT YES, IT'S SO MUCH EASIER. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS, REALLY. 
          IT, IT'S STARTING AT ZERO. 
          IT'S A VERY OVER OVERWHELMING PROCESS IF YOU'VE BEEN OH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, IS WE'RE STARTING AT ZERO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE, MOST OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE GENERATE OR YOU SEE COME FROM US AS IT STARTS AS, AS A PAPER DOCUMENT TURNS INTO AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND THEN THEN TURNS BACK INTO A PIECE OF PAPER MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THERE'S NO REASON IN MY MIND AS AN IT PERSON WHY THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING. 
          UM, I'M WITH YOU . 
          SO, UH, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT, WE NEEDED TO HAVE A LARGER BACKBONE SO WE COULD, WE COULD SEND DATA MORE RELIABLY. 
          UH, ON TOP OF THAT, THIS YEAR WE'VE, UH, FINISHED OUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR CAMERA SYSTEM. 
          WE'VE ADDED A NEW ADVANCED CAMERA SYSTEM TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, INTEGRATING SOME AI DETECTION FOR, UH, PEOPLE FACES AND VEHICLES AND EVEN AUDIO ON THE OUTSIDE FOR LIKE GUNSHOTS AND GLASS BREAKING CAR ALARMS THAT IT WILL NOTIFY US WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. 
          UH, ESPECIALLY IN OFF HOURS. 
          IF WE HEAR GLASS BREAKING IN THE, AT THE PARK, THEN WE KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          SO THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          UM, GOING FORWARD, UH, IF YOU'LL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THAT SHEET OR NOT, UM, WE HAVE ONE FOR THE EMS BUILDING. 
          EMS BUILDING CURRENTLY HAS NO SECURITY, UH, CAMERA SYSTEM AT ALL. 
          WE WILL BE DOING THE SIMILAR SYSTEM OVER THERE. 
          AT THE SAME TIME. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN, UH, THE SAME DOOR, UH, SYSTEM THAT, THAT WE USE HERE AND OVER THE PD, UH, TO BRING THEM IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT. 
          AND THE MAJOR REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THOSE, ALL THOSE TWO THINGS INCORPORATE TOGETHER. 
          UM, OUR SECURITY CAMERA SYSTEM HERE, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT THE NEW ONE AND THE ONES OVER THERE, AND THE DOOR CAMERAS WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER. 
          UM, AND, UH, THEY ARE THE SAME COMPANY, BUT THE GOAL IS TO UNIFY EVERYTHING CURRENT SYSTEM OVER THE EMS FOR THEIR DOORS. 
          THEY ARE HAVING, UM, THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR ISSUES. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING VERY QUICKLY TO DOOR ISSUES, AND THEY'RE ALL UNDER THEIR CONTROL. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE ONE EXTERNAL DOOR COMING INTO THE BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN, UH, UNUSABLE FOR THREE MONTHS AND WE'VE REPORTED IT MULTIPLE TIMES, AND IT'S MERELY A MECHANICAL ELECTRONICS ISSUE THAT JUST NEEDS SOMETHING REPLACED. 
          THEY'RE NOT DOING IT, THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING. 
          SO LET'S PUT IT UNDER ME AND PUT IT UNDER THE SAME DOOR SYSTEM WE USE FOR THE REST OF OUR BUILDINGS, AND WE CAN GO THAT DIRECTION. 
          UM, THERE, THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE WILL ALSO, AND ONCE WE GET THEM GOING ON OUR SYSTEM, THE ONE I'M USING, WE WON'T BE PAYING A, UH, THIRD PARTY TO MAINTAIN OUR SYSTEM. 
          THERE IS NO S MONTHLY YEARLY SERVICE CHARGE FOR WHAT WE USE. 
          SO WE'RE CUTTING COSTS BY DOING THIS. 
          UM, AND I KNOW IT'S MORE OF AN UPFRONT COST. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF GOING, WELL, WE'RE SPENDING MONEY, BUT THE GOAL IS TO LOWER OUR OVERALL COST. 
          SO, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT. 
          UM, OTHER PROJECTS, LARGE END PROJECTS MULTI-YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING THE, UH, TYLER'S ERP 10, WHAT'S IN THE CLOUD. 
          AND IT'S, I THINK WE'RE IN LINE FOR THAT. 
          WE'RE WAITING FOR TYLER TO TELL US WHEN WE'RE GONNA BEGIN ON THIS BUILDING. 
          UH, THE INITIAL PART OF THAT WILL BE THE, UH, HEALTH AND CODE PART THAT STARTS IN OCTOBER. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S IN OCTOBER. 
          UH, AND THEY'LL BE GOING TO A MORE AUTOMATED SYSTEM WHERE, UH, OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR, UH, CITIZENS CAN LOG ONTO THE WEBSITE AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE LICENSES AND STUFF AND PERMITS THAT THEY CAN BUY IMMEDIATELY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME IN HERE AND, AND DO THAT STUFF THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ONLINE. 
          UH, AND THIS WILL 
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MOVE THAT MORE INTO THAT AUTOMATED SYSTEM, UH, AND BRING THAT INTO, FOR LIKE OUR HEALTH HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS SCHEDULED EVERY YEARLY SUPPOSED TO DO HEALTH INSPECTIONS. 
          UM, THIS WILL SEND UP THAT NOTICE TO THEM THAT IT'LL ALSO FOLLOW UP WITH HER AND SAY, HEY, OUR, OUR CURRENT HEALTH INSPECTOR AND SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT THIS COMING UP. 
          UH, I'VE ALREADY NOTIFIED 'EM AND DO ALL THAT GOOD STUFF FOR 'EM. 
          AND IF THERE'S A FEE INVOLVED, UH, THEY CAN SEND IN THE FEE THROUGH THE WEBSITE AT THAT POINT AND IT WILL TRAP. 
          SO IF, UH, NEXT YEAR IT'LL NOTIFY 'EM, HEY, THIS IS DUE. 
          IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T GET IT TO US, WE'RE GONNA SEND A NOTICE TO OUR HEALTH INSPECTOR. 
          THEY'LL BE OUT, MAKE A VISIT FOR YOU. 
          UM, INSTEAD OF, MOST OF THAT STUFF IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE IN A BY HAND IN SPREADSHEET MANNER, . 
          SO I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET EVERYBODY ON THAT TRAIN FOR MODERNIZATION. 
          . 
          AND YOU SAID THAT THAT'S WHICH ONE? TYLER. 
          TYLER. 
          SAS, YEAH. 
          TYLER. 
          ERP, UH, TENT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT 'CAUSE I, I THINK I GOT A, SOME OF THE PLACES THAT I GO TO FOR THE, THEY, AND I THINK, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT CITY IS IT? IS IT C IT'S LIKE A PERMITTING SYSTEM ONLINE WHERE THEY CAN JUST I THINK SO, YEAH. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT SYSTEMS OUT THERE. 
          YES. 
          UH, WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS INTEGRATING TYLER'S PACKAGE MM-HMM . 
          UM, TO ALLOW, WE, IF YOU RECALL, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WENT WITH IWORKS, UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TYLER COMPATIBLE. 
          TURNS OUT THEY WEREN'T. 
          UM, BUT THE IDEA IS, IS THAT WHEN WE GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD WITH THIS MODEL, YOUR PERMIT WILL BE IN YOUR HAND ON YOUR PHONE, YOUR CHECKLIST WILL BE ON YOUR HAND, ON YOUR PHONE, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE IN REAL TIME TO SEE WHEN THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S GONE BY AND GREEN TAGGED, OR RED TAGGED OR YELLOW TAGGED, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          AND THEN ALSO FOR THOSE HEALTH INSPECTIONS FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, THERE'LL BE A PORTAL THERE THAT, UH, WHOEVER WE ARE DEALING WITH IS ABLE TO TRACK IN REAL TIME WHAT THE PROGRESS IS ON THEIR PROJECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          LIKE THE, LIKE THE APARTMENT INSPECTIONS AND THAT KIND OF THING? EXACTLY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO STAY, YOU KNOW, ROCKY AND, AND, UH, OH MAN. 
          HER NAME JUST LIKE, OKAY, VICTORIA. 
          VICTORIA, THANK YOU VICTORIA. 
          I WAS ABOUT TO GO WITH VERONICA , UH, VICTORIA. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE TO BASICALLY PROMPT EVERY MONTH FOR THAT VACANCY REPORT, THAT TERM REPORT. 
          THIS WILL ALLOW IT TO BE AUTOMATED. 
          SO ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS, HEY, WE HAD THIS MANY THIS MONTH, IT GOES STRAIGHT INTO THE SYSTEM AND WE CAN MONITOR IN REAL TIME. 
          SO, AND IS THAT GONNA BE INTEGRATED THROUGH OUR WEBSITE OR, UH, THERE'LL BE A PORTAL, UH, ON THE WEBSITE THAT FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO. 
          AND THEN WE WILL ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ONCE WE GET THIS LIVE AND UPDATED, IF, IF IT'S A FREQUENT FLYER, UH, LIKE A, A BUILDER, LET'S SAY LIKE MM-HMM . 
          AMERICAN STANDARD OR DHK, THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL HAVE AN, THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THE APP AND THEY'LL JUST BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP ANYTIME THEY'RE OUT THERE IN THE FIELD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN DO YOU, UH, ATLANTA, DO YOU MANAGE THE WEBSITE? I DO NOT MANAGE THE WEBSITE. 
          NO. 
          THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S OFF, OFF, UH, OFFSITE WITH, UH, WITH A LOCAL PROVIDER. 
          YES. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THE NEED TO ENHANCE IT AND ALSO TO, UH, GET IT, GET, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, HOW MANY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AND HOW MANY YEAH, I HAVE NO CLUE. 
          SO IT IS, NONE OF THEM ARE UNDER MY CONTROL. 
           AND YEAH. 
          BUT SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, OUR GOALS FOR THIS COMING YEAR, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN EXPENSE CODE, BUT IT'S TO GET A SOLE IDENTITY AND A SOLE MESSAGE SOURCE AND A SOLE PLATFORM FOR FOLKS TO INTERACT WITH THE CITY INSTEAD OF 27 DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE FOLLOWED BY SOMEBODY. 
          SO, RIGHT, BECAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WHENEVER WE CAN, WAS LIKE A CHAT BOT, LIKE A AI CHAT BOT WHERE IT CAN JUST, THEY CAN JUST ASK IT QUESTIONS. 
          WE UPLOAD OUR ORDINANCES OR OUR PROCESSES SO THAT WAY WE CAN LEAD 'EM TOWARDS THAT. 
          NO, NO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD ACTUALLY THIS WEEK BEEN TALKING TO CJ ABOUT IS DOING AN INTERNAL, UH, CHAT BOT SYSTEM LIKE THAT FOR OUR, UH, EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THE REASON I SAY INTERNAL IS BECAUSE THE LOGISTICS OF IT, IT'S, AND THE LEGALITY OF IT WHEN YOU'RE ON CHAT, GP WHEN YOU'RE ON ROCK, UH, THEY ARE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE INPUTTING THAT'S THEIRS NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO WE CAN'T REALLY PUT GOVERNMENT DATA OUT THERE . 
          UM, SO YEAH. 
          BUT IF WE HAD ACCESS TO AN INTERNAL ONE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GR IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SYSTEM, BUT AS LONG AS IT'S ABLE TO RESPOND AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE REASONABLE ANSWERS AND REFERENCE, UH, ORDINANCES, UH, AND WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT INTERNALLY. 
          UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF IT, UH, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, 
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BUT THEN WE CAN AT THE SAME TIME LOOK AT DOING AN OPEN, UM, FORWARD FACING, FORWARD FACING, UH, CHAT BOT FOR THE PUBLIC WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ORDINANCE AND STUFF. 
          IT'S DIRECTLY ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE EVEN, EVEN, YEAH, I KNOW ABOUT THE GBT, HOW THEY MANAGE THEIR BUSINESS STRUCTURE, BUT EVEN, I MEAN OUR, OUR STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY IS ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          I MEAN, WHEN THEY, WELL, THERE'S A, YOU'VE GOT ACCOUNT DATA THAT IS NOT SUBJECT TO PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          SO, UH, LET'S TALK LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR WATER BILL. 
          UH, ALTHOUGH IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION, THE AGGREGATE AMOUNT THAT WE GENERATE REVENUE, YOU'VE GOT A RED FLAG LAW THAT PROTECTS THE PRIVACY OF THE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT HOLDER. 
          YES. 
          AND SO, WELL, I I WAS TALKING MORE OF LIKE, SOMEBODY COULD, SOMEBODY GOES TO OUR WEBSITE TO ASK HOW MUCH IS THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR? YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE INTERNAL ONE, BUT IT'S DOABLE. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO NOT, SO NOTHING LIKE TOO IN DEPTH WITH ALL OF OUR NUMBERS AND STUFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          LIKE SOMETHING JUST OVER THE TOP SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO CALL AND RIGHT. 
          ASK AND, YEP. 
          SO OUR GOAL IS TO DEVELOP THE LOCAL LLM FIRST AND THEN LOOK AT IT AT TAKING IT PUBLIC ONCE WE'VE KIND OF CUT OUR TEETH AND BROKEN IT ON OUR SIDE. 
          UM, UH, I WILL SAY THAT STAFF HAVE, UH, MOST STAFF HAVE REALLY TAKEN TO AI AND GOTTEN REALLY GOOD. 
          WE CALL IT, UH, CORE GPT AND UH, ROSE ROCK. 
          SO, UM, BUT, UH, THE, THE REALITY IS THE WORLD'S CHANGING SUPER, SUPER FAST. 
          UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I TALKED WITH STAFF, I READ A BOOK CALLED THE, THE COMING WAVE, AND I RECOMMEND EVERYBODY GIVE IT A READ. 
          UH, IT'S TERRIFYING AND HOPEFUL AT THE SAME TIME, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE USING THESE THINGS AS FORCE MULTIPLIERS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, IS OUR COST COMPRESSIONS ARE ONLY INCREASING OUR COST EXPENSE. 
          OUR EXPENSE RATIOS ARE ONLY INCREASING, AND THE ONLY WAY TO COMBAT THAT IS TO AUTOMATE. 
          SO YEAH, SO WE, AND UP TO THIS POINT, WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'VE GOT MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT SO OUR NETWORK CAN HANDLE, UH, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. 
          AND NOW THE GOAL IS TO BEGIN RAMPING UP AND IDENTIFYING WHERE, WHERE, WHERE WE CAN START AND WHAT WE CAN GO FROM, UH, AND DO AT THAT POINT. 
          COOL. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO, AND JOE PROBABLY, HE WENT ON A, HE WENT ON A TRIP THURSDAY. 
          YEAH. 
          TO THE COLLEGE, HAS OFFSITE, UM, SERVER STORAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S LIKE A DISASTER RECOVERY SITE. 
          YEAH. 
          DO WE HAVE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, CURRENTLY I HAVE, THE WAY I'VE GOT IT SET UP IS I DON'T HAVE, OFFSITE IS IN A DIFFERENT TOWN. 
          UH, WE HAVE A DUAL SYSTEM BACKUP WHERE OUR MAIN SERVER SITS AT THE EMS BUILDING MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN IT IS BACKED UP OVER HERE TO THE BD. 
          SO, UM, IF SOMETHING WERE TO WIPE OUT ONE BUILDING, OUR DATA WOULD BE MAINTAINED HERE. 
          UM, UH, WHEN I TALK ABOUT OUR DATA THOUGH, YOU NEED TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE THAT OUR ACCOUNTING DATA IS MOVING TO THE CLOUD. 
          SO, UH, AND THEY DO THEIR OWN BACKUPS. 
          SO EVEN IF THE ENTIRE CITY WERE TO BE DESTROYED SINCE IT'S CLOUD-BASED, WE'D STILL HAVE ALL OF OUR DATA. 
          THE PD IS SEPARATE, UH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SERVER, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BACKUP BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE ENCRYPTED AND IT HAS TO BE PROTECTED AND ISOLATED FROM ALL THE OTHER NETWORK. 
          SO, UM, AND IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          ONE BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT CURRENTLY. 
          I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT DOING A, AN OFFSITE, A TER, TERTIARY. 
          IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO NAIL DOWN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT YET. 
          JUST CURIOUS. 
          I MEAN, AFTER THEY, AFTER, YEAH. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          I HAVE, THE LOCATION WE USE IS, IS PRETTY NEAT. 
          I CAN KIND OF GET WITH YOU LATER ON AND KIND OF TELL YOU WHERE IT'S AT AND EVERYTHING AND HOW IT WORKS. 
          COOL. 
          AND THEN IN TERMS OF, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT INTERNET REDUNDANCY AND COMMUNICATION REDUNDANCY THAT WE'RE GOING? UM, YEAH. 
          WHEN I GOT HERE, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE HAD A HUNDRED MEGABIT UP, DOWN, UH, COMCAST. 
          WE ARE, WE'RE ACTUALLY ONE GIG FIBER. 
          WE, UH, AND WE HAVE NOW REDUNDANCY USING EARTH, NOT EARTH, EARTH, UH, STARLINK, UH, THE, UH, UH, SATELLITE VERSION. 
          SO BASICALLY, I, I HAVE IT SET IN A BOX IS AN EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW. 
          AND STARLINK IS A DISH ABOUT THIS BIG. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE DEBATING WHERE, WHERE TO MOUNT IT CURRENTLY. 
          BUT WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS AN EMERGENCY IN THE EVENT THAT, THAT IF A HURRICANE WERE TO COME, WE DON'T WANT IT FLYING AWAY WITH THE HURRICANE  . 
          SO I'VE GOT IT IN A BOX. 
          IT IS SET UP. 
          AND SO BASICALLY, UH, THE GOAL AND THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT AFTER A HURRICANE, WE DROP A CABLE, THROW IT OUT THERE, AND WE HAVE A SECONDARY INTERNET IF WE NEED IT FOR THE, UH, BUILDINGS. 
          AND THAT IS IN PLACE AS OF RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          [04:05:03]
ANY OTHER IT QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING. 
          THANK YOU, LYNN. 
          THANK YOU GUYS, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOVING ON. 
          UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY AT ALMOST THE END , UH, BUILDING SERVICES, UH, HOLDING THE SAME. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE PERSONNEL CHANGE THERE, UH, LAST YEAR. 
          SO THERE'S NO REAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THERE. 
          AND NOW ONTO INTERDEPARTMENTAL OR NON-DEPARTMENTAL. 
          UH, AGAIN, THERE MAY BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IF WE GET THE FEMALE REIMBURSEMENT. 
          UH, AND THEN THE ONE TRANSFER, UH, THIS IS WHERE ALL THE DEBT, UH, GETS BASICALLY HANDLED AND TRANSACTED INTO FUND 400. 
          UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH BOB. 
          I SPENT ABOUT THREE HOURS ON THE PHONE WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT LAYING OUT THE CIP AND FUTURE DEBT ISSUE, UH, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED OVER TIME. 
          AND SO HE'S WORKING ON A LONGITUDINAL 30 YEAR PLAN OR SCHEDULE, UH, FOR US. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT IN POSITION TO ISSUE ANY KIND OF DEBT AT THIS TIME. 
          ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, IN THE CONTINGENCY I MENTIONED, UH, WE BUILT IN THE, UH, THE FUNDING FOR THAT PRIME PROGRAM. 
          WE'LL MOVE THAT OUT OF THERE AND INTO AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL LINE ITEM. 
          UH, 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S COUNCIL CONSISTENCE ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          SO, AND WITH THAT, WE'RE DONE. 
          UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD TO MOVE TO ADUR. 
          HUH? ? WHAT'S THAT? NO, NOTHING. 
          THAT WAS GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND AGAIN, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR YOU GUYS, FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR EVERYBODY, THAT THIS IS ALWAYS A TEAM EFFORT. 
          I KNOW THEY ALWAYS GO CRAZY 'CAUSE I GO CRAZY AND UH, AND THEN I HAVE THOSE COCKAMAMIE IDEAS. 
          AND THEN, UH, IN TRUE FORM, MY LAPTOP FAILED ONE ONE DAY THIS WEEK. 
          SO, UH, AND I ACTUALLY TRIED TO FAIL. 
          LET ME TWICE. 
          JUST THE ANSWER IS I SENT LANDON THIS TEXT, UH, 18 ACTIVE TABS IN EXCEL, THREE POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS AND HAVING GOOGLE EARTH RUNNING WILL WILL CRAFT THIS LAPTOP. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK YOU JUST NEED A MACBOOK, I THINK. 
          I THINK, I THINK, I THINK THE CITY JUST NEEDS TO MOVE TO APPLE OR NO. 
          YEAH, I KNOW, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S LIKE, AND THE, THE LEGISLATIVE FUND BRINGING APPLES ON. 
          DID, DOES THE BCCA MEMBERSHIP AND THE ECONOMIC ALLIANCE MEMBERSHIP SHOW UP SOMEWHERE ELSE? THEY'RE UNDER THE DES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS, OR SHOULD BE? HOLD ON. 
          THERE'S NO AMOUNTS IN HERE. 
          HOLD ON. 
          THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT, DO THEY SHOW UP SOMEWHERE ELSE? NO. 
          TALKING ABOUT THEY SHOULD BE IN THERE. 
          HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND. 
          MEMBERSHIPS MEMBERSHIP, BECAUSE WE HOSTED THIS YEAR, RIGHT? MAYOR? WE DO, CAN WE HOST ANOTHER ONE THIS YEAR? I THINK COULD BE AN OCTOBER OR SOMETHING. 
          DANBERRY WANTED TO GO BEFORE US MAYOR. 
          IT'S IN THERE. 
          IT'S JUST NOT IN THERE IN THERE. 
          YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE LINE ITEMS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T POPULATE WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE CLEAR. 
          THEY'RE IN CLEAR, THEY'RE IN CLEAR GOUT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          SOME OF MINE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WERE ON THE RIGHT LINE AND SOME OF 'EM ARE MISSING. 
          YEAH. 
          ESPECIALLY LANDON HAD TO PULL TRIPLE DUTY THIS, UH, THIS WEEK IN HELPING MIGRATE THE DATA OUT AND EXPORT IT. 
          SO JUST, OKAY. 
          NOT MUCH, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, IT ADDS UP. 
          IT'S 52, 51, 50 $200. 
          IT'S NOT IN THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S ALL IN THERE AS EIGHT. 
          WE DIDN'T LINE ITEM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S IN THERE. 
          IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TOP LINE AGGREGATION, THOSE WERE INCLUDED, WE'D LUMP SUM IT, BUT WE CAN BREAK IT OUT. 
          SO, NOT A PROBLEM. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, LIKE I SAID, THE ONE I WAS LOOKING AT SAID ZERO. 
          YEAH, IT DOES. 
          UM, SO OTHER THAN JUST GETTING EXAMPLES OF OUR SOLID WASTE OPTIONS, YES MA'AM. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOOD AND WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL START TO WORK ON THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, WE'VE, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE THREE TIERS OF MODELING ON RATES. 
          UH, I THINK AT THE HIGH SIDE I WENT TO 45%. 
          UM, YEAH, ON THE HIGH SIDE WE WENT UP TO 45. 
          WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT ANOTHER MEETING AND YOU CAN KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR YOUR COMFORT LEVEL ON DOING THOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M NOT SURE YOU WANNA GO TO THAT, JUMP THAT RIGHT OUTTA THE GATE, BUT NO, BUT, BUT, AND KIND OF LIKE MAKE, PUT IT IN WITH THE WATER BILL IF THE INCREASE WITH THE WATER AND THAT WAY WE CAN SEE KIND OF LIKE, 'CAUSE OF GOING FIVE, UH, FIVE BUCKS ON THE GARBAGE IS GONNA INCREASE AND THE WATER IS INCREASING. 
          , WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE GET $200 BILLS. 
          YEAH. 
          [04:10:01]
EVERY TIME THEY WATER THEIR YARD. 
          . 
          ACTUALLY WE CAN KIND OF WELL, I SAID WE COULD THAT APPARENTLY, UH, JOE WAS JUST SAYING THAT, UM, LAKE JACKSON IS GETTING A LOT OF HEAT FOR RISE AND WATER COSTS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND, AND THE THE IT IS, I MEAN, NOT GOOD. 
          THE, THE LANDFILL GONE UP. 
          THE WATER RATES THAT WE PAY HAVE GONE UP. 
          SO I MEAN YEAH. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S ALL STUFF THAT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR HANDS. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE GOT HANDS FOR IT TO, CAN'T GO UP ON LOOK AT IT. 
          AT LEAST YOU CAN'T GO UP ON THE TAXES ENOUGH TO BREAK IT UP. 
          AND THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND, SO IT CAN'T GO IN THERE ANYWAY, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, I'LL, WE'LL GET MODELS OUT TO YOU WHEN THIS DECIDES IT'S READY TO GET BACK TO WORK. 
          IT JUST NEEDS TO COOL OFF FOR A WHILE. 
          IT MAY, WELL, YOU'RE DRIVING IT TOO HARD. 
          WE ALSO FOUND OUT THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DELL POWER ADAPTER, ONCE THE BATTERY GETS BELOW A CERTAIN LEVEL, IT WON'T CHARGE REGARDLESS. 
          I MEAN, UNLESS IT HAS A REAL DELL. 
          OH WOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I FOUND THAT LESSON OUT MONDAY. 
          HOW THE HELL DOES IT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE? APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME CHIP OR CODE IN THERE THAT TELLS IT WHAT IT IS AND IT ISN'T. 
          WELL, IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME DE IT USED TO BE. 
          I'M NOT GONNA LIE. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          MIKE SELLING ON THE LAP. 
          MIKE SELLING DESKTOPS OUT OF HIS TRUNK. 
          ON, ON GUADALUPE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S . 
          [IV. NOTICE/ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS]
SO WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ANNOUNCE NOTICE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS AND MEETINGS. 
          43RD DRAKE MOSQUITO FESTIVAL ON 24TH THROUGH 26TH AT THE KLU PARK. 
          FINAL BUDGET WORKSHOP RECORD VOTE ON THE PRELIMINARY TAX RATE AND SIGNING OF PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR A TAX RATE AND BUDGET. 
          THURSDAY, JULY, THE 31ST, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AUGUST 14TH, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AUGUST 28TH, LABOR DAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED. 
          PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET TAX RATE, ROLL CALL, VOTE TO ADOPT BUDGET ORDINANCE. 
          AND THEN THE TAX ORDINANCE, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE FOURTH. 
          REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IS SEPTEMBER THE 11TH. 
          AND ANOTHER REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN SEPTEMBER THE 25TH. 
          AND THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ADJOURN. 
          SO MOVE MOVED BY COUNCIL NLAR. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL PERSON. 
          MADDOX. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          MEETINGS ADJOURNED. 
          I'S GOING ON. 
          TAKING A NAP. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF INFO.
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