[I. COMMENCEMENT]
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FOR THE BELOW LISTED ITEMS, CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE INCLUDED, WOULD NOT LIMITED SECTIONS.
CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY.
5 5 1 0 7 2 DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY.
DELIBERATION ABOUT GIFTS AND DONATIONS.
5 5 1 0 7 4 PERSONNEL MATTERS.
DELIBERATION ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES 5 5 1 0 8 7.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOUR 8.175.
IS THAT RIGHT? 4 1 8 DASH 180 3 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUES AND IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SECTIONS 3 2 1 0.3022 SALES TAX INFORMATION.
THE AGENDA MEETING PACKET AND VIDEO LINK ARE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWW.KLUTEXAS.GOV.
THE RECORDING OF THE MEETING VIDEO WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO PALM REQUEST TO THE PUBLIC IN THE COURT WITH
THE MEETING HAS NOW BEEN CALLED TO ORDER.
UH, MR. NEY, WOULD YOU CARE TO GIVE US AN IMPLICATION? SURE ARE DARE HEAVENLY FATHER LORD, I'D JUST COME TO YOU, ASK YOU TO BE WITH THESE MEMBERS OF, OF THE COUNCIL.
BE WITH THEM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD.
AND LORD, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE.
AND TH MAY TH YOU BLESS EVERY, EVERY ONE OF THEM IN JESUS' NAME.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NOW I HAVE ROLL CALL CALVIN SCHIFF.
[II. PUBLIC HEARING - CITY COUNCIL AS BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT]
OKAY.FIRST ITEM IS TO READ THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IT'S A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING, A CITY, A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OF THE CITY OF KLUTE, MISSOURI COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE CITY WILL BE HELD AT 1 0 8 EAST MAIN STREET, BEGINNING AT 6:30 PM ON THE 12TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2026 IN THE COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL OF COURT CHAMBERS ON THE, ON THE CITY HALL AT SUCH TIME AND PLACE.
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OF THE CITY WILL CONSIDER THE QUESTION OF DECLARING BUILDING AND IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED AT THE FOLLOWING REAL PROPERTIES LINE AND SITUATED WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY TO BE A DANGEROUS UNSAFE BUILDING.
AND A REQUEST FOR AN ENTRY OF ORDER OF CONDEMNATION.
PROPERTY ADDRESS LOCATION IS THREE 14 NORTH DIXIE DRIVE INCLUDE TEXAS AND IT'S SIGNED BY ROSIE APPOINTMENT CITY CLERK.
UH, THE PUBLISHER'S AFFIDAVIT WAS, IT WAS PUBLISHED ON JANUARY 22ND, 2026.
AND SO NOW I'LL CONDUCT A HEARING ON THE QUESTION OF DECLARING THE BUILDING AND IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED ON THE FOLLOWING.
REAL PROPERTY LINE IS SITUATED WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF CL TO BE A DANGEROUS UNSAFE BUILDING FOR ENTRY OF AN ORDER OF CONDEMNATION.
THREE 14 NORTH DIXIE DRIVE, CLU, TEXAS.
FIRST ITEM IS PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE BY THE CITY.
UH, MR. MR. HASLIP, IF YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, SIR, EXCUSE ME, BEFORE YOU PROCEED, THAT'S THE WRONG ADDRESS.
SO WE'RE THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY.
I WANNA CLARIFY WHICH BUILDING YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT? THREE 14 OR THREE 16.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ADDRESS OF THE
AND THAT'S WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE LETTER, THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT STATING THAT'S 360.
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KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE 16 RIGHT? CORRECTED FOR THE RECORD? YES, MA'AM.WE'RE GONNA PROCEED AND THEN WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO PRESENT YOUR SIDE, THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT YOUR SIDE VERY.
BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE ADDRESS OF THREE 16.
UM, MR. HASLIP, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? JERRY HAYSLIP.
AND WHAT'S YOUR JOB HERE? WITH THE CITY BUILDING OFFICIAL.
DID YOU HAVE AN OCCASION TO, UH, UM, UH, INSPECT AND VIEW A, UM, MOBILE HOME, UH, ON, UH, RIGHT OFF DIXIE DRIVE, EITHER THREE 14 OR THREE 16 NORTH DIXIE DRIVE? YES, SIR.
AND, UM, UH, DID YOU, UH, UH, WERE YOU ABLE TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY THERE? YES, SIR.
AND, UM, DOES THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL HAVE COPIES OF THOSE, OF PHOTOGRAPHS IN FRONT OF THAT? UH, THEY, THEY HAVE IT FOR THE SCREEN.
AND, UH, COULD YOU, UH, I GUESS LOOK AT THE SCREEN AND UH, AND GO THROUGH, UH, UH, THE DESCRIPTION.
ARE THESE THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU TOOK? YES, SIR.
THAT'S THE BACK OF THE TRAILER RIGHT THERE OVER ON THE EASEL SIDE.
AND IS THERE A, UH, ON THAT PHOTO, IS THERE A, SOME SORT OF OPENING BETWEEN THE EXTERIOR WALL AND THE ROOF WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SUPPORT BEAMS FOR THE ROOF THERE? THE ONLY THING THAT'S OPEN IS THE PART THAT'S IN THIS PLAN HERE.
WELL WE'LL JUST REFER TO THE PICTURES UP THERE.
THAT IS THE BACK OF THE TRAILER.
WELL LET, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEXT PICTURE.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S, THAT IS THE END, THAT'S FACING DIXIE DRIVE AND THERE'S AN OPENING THERE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS, WAY LONG TIME FOR PROTRUSIONS FOR WHATEVER.
IS THERE, UH, ANOTHER PHOTO, OTHER PHOTOGRAPHS? YES SIR.
UH, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THIS ONE.
WHAT IS THIS PHOTOGRAPH OF? THAT'S THE, THE IN FACING DIXIE DRIVE WITH THE, YOU SEE THAT BLACK SPOT THAT IS THE OPEN, IT'S BEEN ACCESS TO THE WEATHER.
ALRIGHT, NEXT, UH, PHOTOGRAPH.
AND WHAT IS THAT? THAT IS THE, THE REMAINING PART OF THE BACK, UH, WE JUST SAW THE FRONT PART WHILE AGO ON THE LEFT.
UHHUH
AND NEXT PHOTO? THAT'S THE FRONT END WHERE IT'S GETTING CLOSER TO THE GROUND.
AND IS IT THE, THE, THE WALLS IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH OR ARE THEY, UH, ROTTED? DILAPIDATED.
THE WHOLE TRAILER IS ALMOST ON THE GROUND.
IT MAY, MAY BE 10 INCHES TO THE GROUND IN THE FRONT THERE IN THE LOWEST SPOT.
YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE IN THAT PHOTO WHERE THE ELECTRICAL OUTLET BOX IS? YES, SIR.
YOU SEE THERE, THERE'S NOT MUCH SPACE LEFT BETWEEN THERE.
IT'S, IT'S JUST LEANING WAY, WAY OVER TO THE FRONT.
AND THE NEXT PHOTOGRAPH? THAT'S, THAT WAS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE BACK THAT I TOOK AT THE BACK END.
AND ARE THERE ANY MORE PHOTOS? THAT'S IT.
SO FOR REVIEW OF, UH, UH, OH, DO THESE PHOTOS THAT YOU TOOK THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL, ARE THEY ACCURATELY REFLECT, UH, THE CONDITION OF THE TRAILER AS YOU SAW IT ON THAT DAY? YES, SIR.
OTHER THAN THEY CANNOT SEE UNDERNEATH THE TARP AT THIS TIME.
I DON'T HAVE A PICTURE OF UNDERNEATH.
I TOOK, UH, VIEWS OF IT BEFORE THAT GOT PLACED ON THAT, BUT IT DIDN'T GET A PICTURE AT THAT TIME.
SO IN THE, WE HAVE TO, UH, STANDARDS IN OUR, UH, CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT, UM, UM, DEFINE AN UNSAFE, UH, OR, UH, SUBSTANDARD BUILDING YES.
AND THAT'S IN 22 DASH 5 0 3 OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND, UH, UH, THAT TALKS ABOUT, UH, ANY BUILDING THAT HAS ROOF, CEILING, FLOORS, WALLS, FOUNDATIONS, ANY COMBINATION THEREOF.
THERE ARE ER ROTTING DECAY FALLING APART, UH, WINDOWS OUT, UH, OPENINGS, UNINHABITABLE, UM, UH, BUILDINGS.
AND, AND YOU, DID YOU DO THESE PICTURES AND THE OBSERVATIONS YOU MADE, UM, FOLLOW THOSE CHARACTERISTICS THAT THE WE HAVE, UH, MAR ROTTED WALLS, WE HAVE SAGGING FOUNDATION, WE HAVE UNSTABLE YES.
PORTIONS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS, CORRECT? YES.
IN ADDITION, UNDER, UM, UH, 22 DASH 5 0 1 OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, UH, THE, UH, CITY HAS ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, UH, THAT COVERS THESE TYPE OF, UH, SUBSTANDARD CONDITIONS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO IN YOUR OPINION, DOES THIS, UH, THIS, UH,
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STRUCTURE, UM, VIOLATE THE, THE, UM, OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AND THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE? YES, SIR.AND, UH, DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS IS A, A SUBSTANDARD AND POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS BUILDING? YES, SIR.
AND SO, IS YOUR, UM, RECOMMENDATION THEN THAT, UH, THE, UM, UH, THAT THIS BUILDING BE, UH, EITHER, UH, THAT THE, THAT THE, UH, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS CONDEMN, CONDEMNS THE BUILDING AND ORDERS THE BUILDING FOR THE STRUCTURE TO EITHER BE REPAIRED OR DEMOLISHED? YES, SIR.
UM, AND YOU HEARD SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE, UH, ADDRESS OF THE LOCATION OF THIS BUILDING.
UH, DID YOU, UH, LOOK UP, UH, THE PROPERTY RECORDS TO DETERMINE, UH, THE ADDRESS, UH, OF THIS BUILDING IN THE RESEARCH? YES.
WE THOUGHT WE HAD IT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UM, UH, RECORDS THAT YOU CHECKED, UH, THIS WAS DESIGNATED AS, UH, THREE 14? YES.
AND IS THAT, UH, IS THAT RELATED TO THE, UM, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THE WATER BILL, OR DO YOU RECALL WHICH RECORD? I DON'T RECALL.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS ANY, UH, ANY OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT RECORD THAT YOU FOUND, IT WAS DENOTED AS, UH, THREE 14 OR DIXIE DRIVE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
WELL, I, I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE, YES, SIR.
UM, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS SIR.
NEXT ITEM WOULD BE, NEXT ITEM WOULD BE REBUTTAL BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, LIEN PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER.
MY SON JOSHUA RAMIREZ, HE'S GONNA SPEAK ON MY BEHALF.
GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WE ARE IN AGREEANCE THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN DISREPAIR.
THERE IS NO DENYING THAT ON OUR BEHALF OR OBVIOUSLY THE EVIDENCE OF THE PICTURES.
I CAN'T ASSURE THERE IS NO RACCOONS, RODENT, ANY KIND OF ISSUES WITH THAT.
IN THE PAST, WE HAVE BEEN MET WITH, UH, RESISTANCE TO REPAIR.
WE HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO STOP REPAIRING MIDAIR ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE, UH, THE LOCATION AS TO WHICH IT HAS FALLEN INTO THIS REPAIR.
IT'S BEEN DENIED FOR REPAIRS, PERMITS AND SUCH.
THE RECENT H WHAT WAS THAT HURRICANE? UM, HURRICANE BARREL.
BARREL DID A MAJORITY OF THE LAST DAMAGE THERE THAT IS UNDER THE TARP.
I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION OF WHAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO OR ALLOW US TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY.
WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? ARE WE ALLOWED TO REPAIR IT? ARE WE GONNA GIVE, BE GIVEN PERMISSION TO REPAIR IT? AND IT'S USED FOR STORAGE.
THAT'S WHAT NOBODY IS CURRENTLY LIVING THERE.
NO, IT'S NOT A RESIDENCE TO ANYBODY.
COULD I ASK, UH, WHEN DID YOU ATTEMPT TO MAKE REPAIRS PREVIOUSLY? WHEN, WHAT TIMEFRAME WERE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH, SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PAST DECADE.
I LIVED THERE WHEN I GOT OUT OF THE SERVICE IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
UM, AND IT'S JUST BEEN A BATTLE OF TRYING TO MAKE REPAIRS AND BEING TOLD TO STOP.
DID YOU, DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT YOU TRIED TO MAKE REPAIRS WHEN THE LAST TIME THAT Y'ALL HAD THAT IT WAS THAT TIME THAT WAS ON THE ROOF? I, I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, I TELL YOU IT WAS WHEN, UM, WHEN THE CITY WAS PUTTING THAT WATER DEAL BACK THERE IN THE CORNER.
IN THE BACK ON THAT PROPERTY, IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER NEXT TO THE, UH, SEWAGE LIFT PUMP.
THEY HAVE ENCROACHED IT UNDER OUR PROPERTY, PUTTING SOME KIND OF AN ANTENNA SYSTEM FENCING OFF INTO OUR PROPERTY WHERE WE NO LONGER HAVE USE OF THAT SECTION OF OUR LAND BEHIND THAT TRAILER.
SO, AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE REPAIRING THE, THE PORCH AND WE WERE PUT TO A STOP ON THAT.
THAT'S THE LAST TIME WE, THAT WASN'T EVEN THE TRAILER ITSELF, THAT WAS JUST THE PORCH ON HIM.
WERE DID WHEN Y'ALL WERE TRYING TO MAKE, UH, REPAIRS TO THE PORCH OR REPAIRS TO THE TRAILER, DID YOU GET BUILDING PERMITS AND THEY STOPPED YOU? 'CAUSE YOU WERE DOING WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT OR DO YOU NO KNOW WHAT THE REASON WAS THAT THEY TOLD YOU? NO, UH, IT, MY BROTHER WAS DOING THE WORK AT THE TIME AND IT WAS MINOR
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REPAIRS.I MEAN, IT WAS JUST A TWO BY FOUR OR SOMETHING THAT HAD OH, HE WAS PUTTING NEW SHINGLES ON IT.
AND I KNOW THE INSPECTOR WAS THERE BECAUSE HE WAS INSPECTING THAT SECTION WHERE THEY WERE GONNA PUT IN THAT DIGITAL WATER MONITOR OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
AND, UM, HE'D STOPPED MY BROTHER.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOUR BROTHER AND THEN I NEVER CAME TO GO LOOK FOR A PERMIT OR, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO REALLY DO THAT BACK THEN.
AND, UM, SO WE JUST, JUST LET IT GO.
SO IF Y'ALL WANTED TO, WE USED IT FOR STORAGE.
DOING SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRETTY SURE THAT IN THE PAST WHEN Y'ALL TRIED TO FIX IT, IT DID, Y'ALL DIDN'T GET A BUILDING PERMIT FIRST AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE REASON.
NO, I, BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A PORCH, UH, GOING THE, THE THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
UM, WHAT WOULD Y'ALL PROPOSE AS FAR AS FIXING THAT TRAILER? IS IT, IS IT FIXABLE AT THIS POINT? DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO FIX IT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DO WITH THAT SECTION OF PROPERTY.
SAY WE DO DISPOSE OF IT, WHAT ARE WE ALLOWED TO PUT BACK IN THAT PLACE? CAN I PUT ANOTHER TRAILER THERE THAT'S SAY, NEW AND APPROVED? IT'S JUST GIVE, JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT CAN I USE THERE AS A, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT ADDRESS.
YEAH, THAT'LL DEPEND ON THE ZONING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ZONING IS AT THE, AT THIS POINT.
YEAH, THAT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT IS, WHAT, WHAT THAT LOT IS ZONED FOR AND WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S ALLOWED ON THAT LOT.
SO YEAH, TYPICALLY IF, IF YOU'RE THERE AND IT'S A, UM, A SITUATION WHERE IT'S GRANDFATHERED, THEN WHEN THE TRAILER IS REMOVED, YOU WOULD LOSE THAT GRANDFATHER.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANNA KEEP WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S GRANDFATHERED AND WE NEED THAT LOCATION.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU, WHEN THIS COMES TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, UM, THE, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS CAN DO VARIOUS ORDERS, RIGHT? ONE ORDER WOULD BE FIX, REPAIR IT OR DEMOLISH IT WITHIN 30 DAYS.
UM, AND SO, UH, AND THAT'S THE, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE STANDARD, THE STANDARD SITUATION WHENEVER THESE THINGS COME UP RIGHT.
IS THAT YOU'D HAVE 30 DAYS TO FIX IT OR DEMOLISH IT, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T ACCOMPLISH THAT WITHIN THE 30 DAYS, THEN THE CITY WOULD DEMOLISH IT, UH, AND THEN, UH, PUT A, SUBMIT A BILL TO YOU ALL AND PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR WHATEVER THE COST.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, UH, DO YOU THINK THAT IF Y'ALL DO, I MEAN Y'ALL HAVE GOTTA LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT REPAIRS NEED TO BE MADE, WHAT WOULD MADE IT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT SUBSTANDARD ANYMORE.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, STABLE AND SO FORTH AND SEE WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS.
IT'S MAYBE CO MAYBE COST MORE THAN IT'S WORTH.
UM, AND SO WE DON'T KNOW THOSE FACTS, RIGHT? BUT, UH, UH, Y'ALL, Y'ALL'S, Y'ALL'S, UH, STRUCTURE, SO Y'ALL WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN FIX REPAIR IT OR REMOVE IT, DEMOLISH IT WITHIN 30 DAYS, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE STANDARD ORDER.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK THAT Y'ALL COULD DO.
THEN LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD BE THE STANDARD ACTION BY, BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S FEASIBLE.
RIGHT? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL WANT US TO DEMOLISH IT AND GET RID OF IT.
IS WHAT I'M GETTING WOULD, LET ME ASK, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO EVEN BUILD ANOTHER HOME THERE? BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE HAD ASKED ABOUT THAT AND THEY SAID, NO, I'D HAVE TO DIVIDE THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T WANNA DIVIDE THE PROPERTY.
WELL, AND THESE ARE A LOT OF OTHER, THESE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT, UM, WE NEED MORE FACTS AND IT DEPENDS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, THE HEARING TODAY IS CAN YOU WE SECURE THE BUILDING, CAN WE REPAIR THE BUILDING OR DOES THE BUILDING NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED? RIGHT.
SO THOSE ARE THE FACTORS WHETHER YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT ANOTHER TRAILER THERE, WHETHER YOU COULD BUILD, I KNOW THAT TYPICALLY WE, WE HAVE THE RULE, YOU CAN'T BUILD MORE THAN ONE HOUSE IN ONE LOT.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE, IF YOU WANTED TO BUILD, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A DIFFERENT HOUSE, YOU WANNA BUILD SECOND HOUSE, YOU WOULD TYPICALLY NEED TO REPL.
RIGHT? AND THEN YOU HAVE REQUIREMENTS OF LOT SIZE, YOU HAVE REQUIREMENTS OF SETBACKS.
SO THOSE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF US NOW.
SO THE MAIN QUESTION IS, UM, UH, AND, AND, AND I GUESS Y'ALL, Y'ALL GOT THE LETTER, THE NOTICE LETTER BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE HERE TODAY, RIGHT? SO, UM, SO THE QUESTION IS, ARE Y'ALL REQUESTING, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR IT? AND IF YOU ARE REQUESTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR IT, RATHER THAN DEMOLISH, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD Y'ALL NEED AND WHAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THAT? WELL, I WOULD LIKE MORE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE CAN DO BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER WE REPAIR OR DEMOLISH.
I MEAN, IF WE CAN PUT ANOTHER STRUCTURE THERE WITHOUT DIVIDING UP THE PROPERTY, THEN WE GO THAT ROUTE.
IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW US TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY, THEN WE'LL
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MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO REPAIR WHAT'S THERE.AND, AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURE YOU'RE GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA BUILD A HOUSE, YOU GONNA BUILD STORAGE SHED, YOU SAID YOU'RE USING THIS FOR STORAGE, RIGHT? SO, YES.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN THOSE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT RULES, OKAY, YOU'ALL HAVE 30 DAYS TO DECIDE REPAIR, DEMOLISH Y'ALL 30 DAYS, DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO DURING THAT TIME, YOU CAN COME TALK TO OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, MR. HAYSLIP AND Y'ALL CAN TALK ABOUT THE ZONING, THE SETBACK, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN Y'ALL CAN REVIEW AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
BUT, UH, AT THAT TIME IN THE, IN THE NOTICE LETTER THAT WENT OUT, IT SHOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH, IF Y'ALL HAVE A PLAN OF REPAIRING, IF Y'ALL HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, THEN THAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS HERE TODAY AND, UH, SAY, HEY, WE WANNA REPAIR IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR PLAN AND THIS IS WHAT TIME WE NEED AND SO FORTH.
WELL ALL THOSE PLANS WERE INDICATIVE OF WHAT THIS MEETING WAS ABOUT.
DEPENDING ON WHAT THIS MEETING WAS ABOUT, WE WERE UNCLEAR.
OKAY, NOW WE CAN MAKE A, MAKE A PLAN.
IS THERE, UH, I GUESS ANY, BECAUSE IF YOU ALL ORDERED US TO DEMOLISH IT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
WELL TYPICALLY THE ORDER, THE TYPICALLY THE ORDER WILL SAY YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO REPAIR OR DEMOLISH.
IF YOU CAN REPAIR IT IN 30 DAYS, YOU'VE GOT 30 DAYS TO REPAIR.
SO, UM, BUT IF THERE ANY OTHER THINGS YOU NEED TO, WELL TELL THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OR ANYBODY ON BOARD ADJUSTMENTS HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE THE, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO 30 DAYS HAVE THAT HAPPEN IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR ME TO COME UP WITH A PLAN.
AND THEN THOSE 30 DAYS I NEED TO KNOW 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME FOR Y'ALL TO TELL ME IF I CAN PUT ANOTHER BUILDING UP THERE, ANOTHER RESIDENCE, UH, WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UM, EVEN IF WE WERE TO DEMOLISH, IT TAKES TIME TO GET A CONTRACTOR OUT THERE THAT CAN EVEN GET OUT THERE TO DO THE DEMO, UH, THE DEMO WORK AFTER WE EVEN SETTLE ON ONE.
I DON'T THINK 30 DAYS IS ENOUGH EITHER.
WELL THEN IT, THE OTHER THING IS ALSO IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR OPTIONS AND YOU SAY, OKAY, WE WANT TO, WE, UH, WANNA DEMOLISH IT, RIGHT.
BUT WE NEED TIME TO GET ESTIMATES, CONTRACTORS SEE HOW MUCH IT WILL COST.
THEN UH, WE HAVE A FORM THAT YOU CAN SIGN.
YOU CAN COME IN AND SIGN A VOLUNTARY DEMOLITION AND THEN WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THE, ON THAT TIMEFRAME.
OH, SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH.
WE HAVE A VOLUNTARY DEMOLITION AGREEMENT THAT YOU COULD SIGN ALSO.
BUT EVEN IF, UH, IF I CHOOSE TO REPAIR IT, I CAN REPAIR IT JUST FOR STORAGE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET STANDARD LIVINGS DOES IT? NO MA'AM.
BUT IT DOES NEED TO MEET THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY CODE IN THE BUILDING CODE.
WITH BUILDING CODE, YOU SAID? YES MA'AM.
CAN I ASK Y'ALL ONE QUESTION? YES.
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN LIKE THIS IS IT HASN'T BEEN.
WE'VE BEEN USING IT FOR STORAGE FOR AFTER I'D SAY THE HURRICANE IS WHEN IT GOT REALLY BAD.
THAT'S WHEN IT REALLY GOT BAD AFTER THE HURRICANE.
PRIOR TO THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TARPS ON IT.
THE WINDOWS WERE IN IT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HOLE FROM THE STREET, IT WAS THE HURRICANE, DID THE DAMAGE.
AND WE'RE ALL SENIOR CITIZENS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
I MEAN WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO OUT THERE.
I'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF A DEMENTIA.
MY BROTHER-IN-LAW HAS DEMENTIA, MY SISTER HAS TO GO TO WORK.
SHE DOESN'T LIVE ON THE PROPERTY, BUT I'VE BEEN CHOSEN TO TAKE CARE OF HIM.
SO THERE'S NOT JUST, WE DO WHAT WE CAN.
WE ARE LIMITED, YOU KNOW, SOME, I'VE GOT DISABILITIES, UH, THE REST OF US THAT CAN WORK THERE THAT MY MOM WE'RE, THEY'RE SENIORS AND WE TRY TO KEEP THE PLACE AS TIDY AS WE CAN WITHIN OUR ABILITIES.
HOW, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE US TO DETERMINE THE ZONING AND WHAT CAN OR CAN'T BE PUT THERE? WELL IT'S ON C ONE.
WELL, AND THEY COULD, THEY COULD MEET WITH THE WELL I UNDERSTAND MR. TOMORROW THEN THEY CAN GO THROUGH ALL THE TIME SEEMS TO BE OUR MAIN QUESTION.
SO YOU CAN GET THE ANSWER OF THE ZONING YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN GET WHAT CAN GO THERE AS SOON AS TOMORROW.
CAN THEY FIND OUT WHAT'S ALLOWED IN C ONE TOMORROW? YEAH.
AND THE THIRD QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT? YOU CAN FIND OUT THEM TWO THINGS IN A PRETTY QUICK FASHION.
SO THEN WE NEED YOUR DECISION.
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THOSE TWO THINGS.WANT YOU TO HEAR WHAT HE'S GOTTA SAY.
I'D SAY SEVEN DAYS OR IN WITHIN A WEEK, A BUSINESS WEEK.
AND THEN FROM THERE YOU DETERMINE IS THAT FAIR THAT YOU DETERMINE WHAT YOU WANT TO, WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE.
I'LL COME AND VISIT YOU TOMORROW.
YOU WANT MY PHONE NUMBER? YOU CAN CALL ME WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THE, OR WE'LL EXCHANGE INFORMATION.
SO ONCE I SPEAK WITH HIM AND THEN IT'S THE WEEKEND.
SO YOU CAN COME IN AND SPEAK TO HIM POSSIBLY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK AND LET US KNOW WHERE YOU NO, TOMORROW I'LL COME AND SPEAK WITH HIM TOMORROW.
BUT THEN Y'ALL NEED A FEW DAYS TO DECIDE.
SO WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU NEXT WEEK.
THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY WOULD BE THE, TOMORROW THE 20TH.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BE THE CALENDAR.
UH, SO THEN BY THE 20TH YOU CAN KIND OF GIVE US A DIRECTION OF WHERE YOU WANT TO GO SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK THE MAIN GOAL IS TO STALL TOO LONG.
EVERYBODY ELSE GOTTA AGREE TO THAT.
WHAT DO WE DECIDE RIGHT NOW THOUGH? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION NOW.
Y'ALL CAN, Y'ALL CAN DELAY THE HEARING AND COME BACK AND REOPEN THE HEARING AT ANOTHER DAY IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANNA DO.
WELL I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THE CHOICE.
AND I DON'T WANNA WANNA MAKE IT FOR YOU UNTIL YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND NOW YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS OF TOMORROW YOU'LL HEAR WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW.
AND Y'ALL HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND I MAY BE GOING, GOING AGAINST THE ORDER OF EVERYTHING HERE.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT SEEMS LOGICAL TO ME FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO COME AND SPEAK WITH HIM 'CAUSE HE'S GOING TO KNOW, HE'S GONNA LET US KNOW WHAT C ONE ZONE IS AND WHAT, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT AND WELL, WE'LL KNOW WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO WITH THE ZONING C ONE AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT OVER THE WEEKEND.
THEN I'LL COME BACK NEXT WEEK.
'CAUSE HE'S HAVING SURGERY NEXT FRIDAY, SO I CAN'T, IT'LL HAPPEN TO BE BEFORE FRIDAY.
WILL THEY BE ABLE TO FIND OUT IF THEY WANT TO GO THE REPAIR OPTION? WILL THEY BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHAT ALL THEY NEED TO DO TO BRING IT UP TO CODE? YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL WE WILL PROBABLY
HONESTLY TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE REPAIR WOULD REQUIRE AN INTERNAL INSPECTION TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE ON THE INSIDE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE IDEAL SITUATION IS YOU COULD GET RID OF THAT AND PUT ANOTHER ONE THERE.
I'M, I BELIEVE YOU RUNNING DOWN THE ROAD THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SEPARATED FROM WHAT LITTLE BIT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT CAN'T HAVE TWO HOUSES ON ONE LOT.
'CAUSE RIGHT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, I HAVE FOUR HOUSES OF TWO TRAILERS.
UM, THE ACREAGE, IT'S NOT IN LOTS, IT'S IN ACREAGE.
AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE CAME 25 YEARS AGO, MOM AND I, THEY TOLD US WE HAD TO DIVIDE IF I WANTED TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE 35 YEARS AGO.
SO, OKAY, WELL WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE NOW, SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE OR REDO THIS CONTINUE CONTINUES TO AS SHORT A PERIOD AS WE CAN LEGALLY CORRECT.
BUT COUNSEL REQUEST THAT THIS, THAT THIS BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS BE POSTPONED TO TILL THE, FOR ENOUGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO DO THEIR RESEARCH AND POSTED LEGALLY FOR A SECOND MEETING.
YOU GOT, UH, YOU, YOU HAVE TO ASK MS. ROSIE THAT.
SO TIMEWISE WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DO A MEETING AGAIN.
IT HAS TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER AGAIN.
'CAUSE WE'RE JUST CONTINUING THIS HEARING.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FINISHING THIS HEARING.
SO WE CAN STILL PROCEED ON THE ORIGINAL NOTICE.
WE'LL HAVE TO DO ANOTHER AGENDA, ANOTHER MEETING.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUBLISH FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT THE AGENDA DOESN'T NEED TO BE POSTED.
AT LEAST I WOULD SAY FOUR DAYS.
BECAUSE IT'S THREE DAYS NOT INCLUDING THE MEETING DAY.
SO MIGHT I SUGGEST COUNSEL HAS ANOTHER MEETING ON THE 26TH? THAT'S WHAT I WAS, YES SIR.
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WE CAN LEGALLY DO ANOTHER MEETING.AND Y'ALL HAVE Y'ALL'S DECISION MADE? YES.
SO THE MOTION IS THAT WE, I'LL BE OUT OF 10 MINUTES.
CONTINUE THE INVESTIGATION AND REVISITED ON THE SIXTH.
AND, AND I'LL SECOND, THE SECOND WAS BY COUNCIL OR DID SOMEBODY ALREADY SECOND? YES.
I THINK ERIC SAID I DID THE FIRST.
OH, DID YOU SECOND ALREADY? I DID.
UH, BUT THE, EVERYTHING SOUNDS GREAT TO ME.
YEAH, IT IS JUST THAT, THAT DATE, THE 26TH, I ACTUALLY WON'T BE HERE.
AND I, I'LL BE OUTTA TOWN FOR A TRAINING AS WELL.
SO WE, WE ONLY HAVE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE WON'T HAVE A QUORUM THAT DAY.
SO YOU GET A LITTLE EXTENSION.
HEY, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE, SIR.
TRY Y'ALL, UH, ROSIE REMINDED ME, UH, Y'ALL ARE REQUIRED TO APPOINT SOMEONE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE, UH, UM, VACATE C MS. BOND RESIGN.
SO Y'ALL MAY HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL HEARING, A SPECIAL MEETING IF Y'ALL DON'T.
WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE, MAY HAVE TO END UP DOING A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE THE 26TH.
OR RESCHEDULE THE ACTUAL MEETING FOR ANOTHER DAY.
WITHIN, YES, MA BE IT TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
CAN WE JUST SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE THIS AT THE SAME TIME AS OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? YES.
BUT THAT'S THE COUNCIL MEETING.
WE WON'T BE, WELL WE WON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
SO WE, WE THAT'S WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SET A CALENDAR AND SET A SPECIAL MEETING ASIDE YEAH.
BUT THE MOTION IS WHENEVER THE NEXT MEETING IS, WHENEVER THE NEXT MEETING, WHETHER IT'S 26TH OR ANOTHER DAY, YOU GONNA TAKE THIS BACK UP ON THAT DAY.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS GET THAT ON WHEN THAT DATE IS.
YEAH, BECAUSE I'M REALLY CONFUSED TOO RIGHT NOW.
SO THE MOTION IS, NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO SAY THAT TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING, TABLE IT TO THE NEXT LEGAL MEETING.
AND SECOND, I, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION SO WE HAVE A MOTION AS A SECOND FURTHER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE ALSO NEED TO VERIFY THE ADDRESS.
Y'ALL ARE SAYING THAT IT IS THREE 16 AND NOT THREE 14.
SO WE TO GETS LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
WELL, THAT GETS BACK INTO THE NON PLATTED LOT.
WE HAVE A ADDRESS FOR THAT ENTIRE TRACK, SO, OH, OKAY.
I GUESS WE, WE CAN, CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM AS WELL.
THE ZONING AND VIABILITY'S GONNA ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
THEY HAVE THE, THE COUNTY HAS THREE 14 ASSIGNED TO THAT ACREAGE.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL HAVE, WHAT Y'ALL HAVE REGISTERED WITH THE POST OFFICE OR THE LIGHT COMPANY OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ON THE COUNTY RECORDS.
THE CITY OF CL WATER DEPARTMENT THREE 16.
NO, YOU'RE SAYING 'CAUSE THAT'S A, THE CITY OF WHO HAS, WHO USES THAT ADDRESS? THE CITY OF CLUE ALSO USES THAT ADDRESS.
BUT WE KNOW WHICH STRUCTURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAILER HOUSE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PROPERTY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
A AS SOON AS WE GET ILLEGALLY IMMEDIATE, LEGALLY POSTED, WE WILL NOTIFY YOU.
WELL, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION
[Ill. ACTION TAKEN AS RESULT OF PUBLIC HEARING]
TAKEN AS A RESULT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.IT HAS BEEN POSTPONED, SO WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN AGUILAR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CHRIS.