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5 7 2 DELIBERATION ABOUT PROPERTY DELIBERATION, DONATIONS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, DELIBERATION ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES 5 0 8 7.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, 4 1 8 7 5 8 3.
DELIBERATION ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUES AND IS AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO SECTION AS 3 2 1 3 0 2 2 CELL TAX INFORMATION.
THE AGENDA MEETING PACKET ARE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWWTEXAS.GOV TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FORM MUST BE COMPLETED AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY CLERK BEFORE THE START OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.
THAT'S NOT RELEVANT THIS TIME.
SO, UH, RECORDING OF THE MEETING VIDEO WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST TO THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH OPEN MEETING ACT MEETING HAS NOW BEEN CALLED
[City Council Budget Workshop on July 11, 2026.]
TO ORDER.IF Y'ALL JOIN ME, WE'LL HAVE INVOCATION.
OUR FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY, ASK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING.
UPON THIS, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GRANT US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR THE CITIZENS, AND THAT WE WOULD DO YOUR WILL, NOT ONLY FOR OUR, FOR OUR CITY AND OUR CITIZENS, BUT FOR OUR COUNTRY AND OUR NATION, AND ALL THOSE THAT ARE DESERVING OF YOUR WORTHINESS.
WE ASK THESE THINGS AND THE NAME OF YOUR SON JESUS.
JOIN US IN THE, IN THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ERIC, AARON, NICOLE, MADDOX, PRESENT, LOPEZ PRESENT.
UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING IN AND DEDICATING SOME TIME ON A SATURDAY.
I KNOW IT'S NOT MUCH FUN, UH, BUT WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL.
I WANT TO, AGAIN, EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEIR STAFFS, UH, FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS AND, UH, HOURS OF DILIGENT EXPLORATION AND, UH, SOME NOT SO FUN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD TO HAVE.
BUT, UH, I, I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S EFFORT AND INTEREST.
AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK COREY AND ANGEL.
UH, THEY PUT IN A TON OF WORK, UH, TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT WE, OH, UH, YEAH, WHAT WE HAD, UH, GOING IN IN LAST YEAR.
CAN YOU SWITCH TO GUEST? UH, YES.
IT B ONE OR BI B ONE OR BI WHAT? B VISITOR.
UH, WE JUST VISITOR WITH ZERO ON IT WITH THE, UH, CAPITAL OR LOWER.
CAN YOU BACK UP? THIS IS GONNA PLAYING WITH THAT FOR THREE DAYS.
OH, THAT'S WHY I HAD YOU GUYS RUN CASES ON TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
THEN THIS HYDRATION BREAK BROUGHT YOU BY WIFI.
IT WANTS TO CONNECT THE GUEST.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOURS CONNECTS TO ONE AND NOT THE OTHER EITHER.
SO, AND THE FUNNY THING IS, IS THAT WAITED UNTIL THE MEETING STARTED TO DIE, I THINK FOR A WHILE.
IT AUTO DISCONNECTS FROM WHATEVER IT'S CONNECTED TO WHEN IT'S NOT.
IS YOURS NOT CONNECTED? I DON'T KNOW.
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I'M GONNA HAND GESTURE.AND IF YOU GUYS CAN, CAN YOU MINE? YES.
I, I'LL MINE WHAT'S GOING ON? UM, ALL THE FAIL.
TURN IT OFF AND TURN IT BACK ON.
TURN IT OFF AND TURN IT BACK OFF.
THEY'LL MAKE AN EYE A A, A APPLE VERSION.
WOULDN'T EVEN, WE TURNED IT ON.
I GUESS IT COULD BE WINDOWS VERSION.
THAT WOULD BE EVEN MORE STUFF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE MOVING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE I'M, OR I'M, AM I HAVING A STROKE? NO.
I AM GONNA TURN MY LAPTOP SO YOU CAN, I'M JUST, AND MINE CONNECTED THE GUEST TOGETHER WON'T CONNECT TO THE OTHER ONE THEN.
LEMME TRY AND GET BACK ON GUEST.
IS THE OTHER ONE DOWN? NO, I'M CONNECTED.
IT, HE KEEPS CONNECTING TO, TO SCI-FI, BUT CAN'T CONNECT TO GUESTS.
SO WHAT ABOUT RED? BUT IF YOU JUST FORGET BOTH.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO NEXT.
THE RED FIRE OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED.
THAT'S WHAT MOST EVERYTHING HERE IS CONNECTED TO.
AS I WAS SAYING, I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR SHOWING UP, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS AND, UH, AND IT'S, THEY PUT IN A LOT OF WORK AS HAVE, UH, ANGEL AND COREY, AND I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THEM, UH, ROSIE AS WELL.
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AHEAD AND, UH, I'LL START WITH, UH, THE FUN STUFF.UM, WE, UH, WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE AS A RESULT OF REVENUE RESTRICTIONS, INCREASING CAPITAL NEEDS, RISING OPERATIONAL COSTS, AND OTHER EXTERNAL PRESSURES, WHICH ARE FORCING US TO TAKE A PRETTY CRITICAL EYE TOWARDS SERVICE LEVEL SUSTAINABILITY.
AND I'LL ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY ONCE WE GET FURTHER INTO THE, INTO THE MEAT OF THE PRESENTATION AND THE NUMBERS ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AND IT APPEARS THAT THE IDA IF WE CAN EVER GET SETTLED ON SOME, A FEW KEY POINTS WITH DOW, WE'LL YIELD ABOUT 106% INCREASE ON THE LOW END, UH, REVENUE FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS WHEN COMPARED TO THIS PAST 15 YEARS.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.
UH, THIS MORNING WE'RE GONNA START WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CIP WE'LL TALK ABOUT WATER WASTEWATER OPERATIONS FLEET, AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP, FINISH OFF WITH SOLID WASTE.
UH, JOHN'S MOM IS TURNING 91 91 TODAY, SO WE WANT TO TRY AND GET HIM.
BUT WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
UH, AND THEN I WILL ALSO, HIS MOM'S BIRTHDAY, SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, AND THEN GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH, UH, BY THAT POINT EVERYBODY WILL PROBABLY BE COMATOSE.
SO, UM, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE BUDGET.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A COMPILATION ON AMALGAM OF MULTIPLE FUNDS.
UH, GENERAL FUND AND ENTERPRISE FUND BEING THE TWO PRIMARY, FOLLOWED BY STREETS AND DRAINAGE FUND.
OH FIVE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOT.
AND, UH, AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, THE ENTERPRISE FUND, UH, AND THE SIDEWALK STREETS AND DRAINAGE FUND HAVE HEALTHY DEDICATED FUND BALANCES IN THEIR OWN SPECIFIC REVENUE STREAMS. SO THEY SIT A LITTLE BIT BETTER OFF, UH, IN REGARDS TO HOW, HOW WE ACTUALLY FUNCTION AND WHY WE'RE ABLE TO DO SOME PROJECTS AND NOT OTHERS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY THOUGH, IT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE A SPAGHETTI BOWL.
THAT'S HOW THE FUNDS FLOW IN AND WE TRANSFER, AND THAT'S HOW THE FUNDS FLOW FLOW OUT.
SO, UH, SINCE THE ONSET OF THE, OF THE PANDEMIC, THE TREND LINE FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL, BUT SPECIFICALLY INCLUDES CASE, HAVE BEEN PROBLEMATIC.
UM, WE'VE GOT STRUCTURAL ISSUES IN THE ECONOMY.
WE'VE GOT POLICY ISSUES COMING OUT OF AUSTIN AND DC AND JUST GENERAL EXTERNAL PRESSURE HAS COMPRESSED OUR REVENUE GROWTH, UH, WHILE EXPANDING INFLATIONARY PRESSURE.
AND UNLESS WE MAKE SOME FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES TO HOW WE OPERATE, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG TERM.
I JOKED WITH STAFF WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS A FEW MONTHS AGO, THAT WE'RE EITHER GONNA BE A WELL-EQUIPPED POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A WATER FUNCTION OR A WELL-EQUIPPED WATER FUNCTION WITH A POLICE DEPARTMENT AT SOME POINT IF THINGS DON'T REVERSE THEMSELVES.
SINCE 2021, OUR OPERATING COSTS HAVE INCREASED 56%.
OUR REVENUES HAVE ONLY INCREASED 29%.
SO WE'VE GOT A 27% DELTA BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO GENERATE IN TERMS OF REVENUE AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO, OR WHAT WE HAVE TO EXPEND TO BE OPERATIONAL.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A SYSTEMATIC DECISION THAT WAS MADE.
UH, WHEN WE KEPT ROLLBACK RATE FROM 8% DOWN TO 3.5%.
THIS GREATEST PROPERTY TAX CUT THAT HAS BEEN PITCHED ABOUT, QUITE FRANKLY, IS BANKRUPTING CITIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
UH, AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY.
WHAT THE, WHAT THE MODUS OPERANDI IS THERE.
UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S HAVING SIGNIFICANT PRESSURE ON US.
SO THIS IS WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES VERSUS REVENUES LOOK LIKE SINCE 2021.
AS YOU SEE, WE'VE CLOSED THE GAP THIS PAST YEAR A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT THE, THE REALITY IS, IS PRICES CONTINUE TO RISE AND OUR ABILITY TO GENERATE REVENUE CONTINUES TO LAG.
THAT'S ON THE ENTERPRISE SIDE.
AND SO, UH, WITHOUT A REVISIONED OVERALL SERVICE MODEL, THE COST BURDEN, OUR CUSTOMER BASE WILL CONTINUE TO BE OUT OF BALANCE.
AND THE REALITY IS, IS WE CAN RAISE RATES, BUT WE'RE GONNA HIT A BREAKING POINT.
AND I, QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY FAIRLY CLOSE TO IT, WHERE THE, THE HOUSEHOLDS AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SERVICES.
AND SO THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME PRETTY HARD DECISIONS.
UM, SO I, AGAIN, INCLUDE A DISCUSSION ON SOLID WASTE.
UM, IT'S A MAJOR CHANGE, UH, BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER SERVICE LEVELS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE ALTERED GOING FORWARD.
UH, THE NEXT THREE YEARS ARE REALLY KEY TO THE CITY.
UH, WE WILL SEE RELATIVE STAGNATION AND REVENUE GROWTH, AND WE WILL REQUIRE RESTRAINT ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF THE LEISURE.
UH, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE AREN'T OPPORTUNITIES HERE AND ONE, OH, LET ME GO BACK.
UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD VALUE.
THERE'S WAYS THAT CITIES GROW AND ADD, INCREASE THAT BASE VALUE, SO WE CAN GET ABOVE THAT 3.5% PROPERTY TAX RATE, WHICH IS OUR SUSTAINING FUNDING SOURCE.
UH, WE CAN ANNEX, BUT WE CAN'T ANYMORE
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BECAUSE THE STATE STRIPES OF OUR ABILITY, UH, WE CAN REDEVELOP, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PUSHING FOR.AND THEN QUITE FRANKLY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CREATE MORE DENSITY ON THE GROUND.
WE SAW A GREAT BOON FROM 26 20 14 TO 2021, THANKS TO THE GROWTH IN WOOD SHORE ON COLLEGE PARK, NEW HOUSES COMING ONTO THE GROUND.
THE REALITY IS, IS THERE'S ONLY ONE AND A HALF SECTIONS OF WOOD SHORE STILL TO GO.
AND NOT MUCH OF WOOD COLLEGE PARK LEFT.
UH, AND WE'RE PRETTY WELL LANDLOCKED, WHICH MEANS WE NEED TO START FACING INWARD.
AND THAT WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF GOING FOR THE LIVABLE CENTER STUDY AND REVIEWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE SUBSEQUENT CHANGES OF ZONE TO ZONING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL OVER THE COMING MONTHS.
UH, IF WE CAN GET AWAY FROM A 7,200 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND GET US ONTO A SMALLER LOT WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THAT TOTAL VALUE, REDUCE OUR SERVICE COST THROUGH CO THROUGH THE ECONOMY OF SCALE.
AND SO, UH, I THINK THAT THE, THE MARKET CONDITIONS ARE CORRECT.
AND JUST TO KIND OF REMIND COUNCIL WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, LIVABLE CENTERS HAS GIVEN US THREE CORE STRATEGIES TO FOLLOW AN INFRASTRUCTURE TRACK, WHICH WILL HELP US PLAN OUR CIP FOR FUTURE GROWTH OR READ OR REDEVELOPMENT, THE POLICY TRACK, WHICH IS WE'RE IN THE HEART OF RIGHT NOW WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND OUT OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PER STATE LAW, WE CAN THEN REDEVELOP OUR LAND USE CODES IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCES.
AND SO THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE TO BUILDING THE CITY'S FUTURE, QUITE FRANKLY, GOING FORWARD, IS TO ENHANCE THE DENSITY AND INCREASE THE VALUE ON THE ACTUAL ROLES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA GENERATE SUSTAINABLE REVENUE GOING FORWARD.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRACK WE CAN CONTINUE TO INCENTIVIZE.
BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THE LOCAL ECONOMY, UH, STILL CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE IDA TO GET NEGOTIATIONS IS THE REAL TIME CAPTURE OF WAGES PAID BY THE INDUSTRIAL PLANTS.
UH, LOCALLY IN 2001, UH, THE LOCAL ECONOMY WAS NETTING 87 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR PAID TO AN EMPLOYEE IN THE PLANTS.
TODAY THAT NUMBER IS LESS THAN 47 CENTS.
AND THAT TREND LINE LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE, ESPECIALLY AS DOW CONTINUES TO REALIGN ITSELF, CONSOLIDATE AND SPIN OFF.
UM, SO THE MEDIAN INCOME, UH, HAS DROPPED FROM $174,000 NET TO THE AREA TO ROUGHLY $74,000.
AND IT GETS EVEN LOWER ONCE WE GET INTO CLUE.
I'LL DISCUSS THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
SO THE IDEA IS, IS THAT WE'RE GONNA CREATE MORE VALUE BY DOWNSIZING, UH, HOUSES AND LOTS TO MAKE THEM MORE APPEALING.
UH, WE DID, HJC WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO PARTNER WITH US ON A HOUSING STUDY.
THEY ACTUALLY JUST WON AN AWARD FOR THAT.
AND WERE RECOGNIZED AT THE, UH, AMERICAN A PA CONFERENCE.
BUT THIS IS WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW.
UH, RIGHT NOW THE MEDIAN INCOME IN THE CITY IS $66,000 A YEAR.
WHAT WOULD BE AN AFFORDABLE RENT IS ABOUT $1,200 A MONTH.
UM, AND A MEDIAN HOME HOME PRICE OF 180 WOULD BE OKAY.
THE REALITY THOUGH, IS THAT WE'RE AT A PLACE BETWEEN ABOUT 50% OF OUR POPULATION RENTS.
THE DECREASE IN ITS HOUSEHOLD SIDE MEANS THERE'S LOWER INCOME, AND THE HOME PRICE HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED, UH, FROM 2021 TO $251,000 NET.
SO WE'VE GOTTA GET SMALLER AND MORE DENSE IF WE'RE GOING TO ATTRACT AND MAINTAIN THE CURRENT VALUE STRUCTURE OR A SUSTAINABLE VALUE STRUCTURE GOING FORWARD.
SO WHAT'S IN THIS BUDGET? UH, WE HAVE TOTAL PROJECTED REVENUES OF ABOUT $15 MILLION.
THAT ANTICIPATES A 3.5% BASE INCREASE OVER EXISTING VALOREM.
WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY, ESSENTIALLY SET STAGNANT SALES TAX GROWTH.
AND ACTUALLY, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT'S A POSITIVE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WHEN I TALK TO MY PEERS IN FREEPORT IN LAKE JACKSON, THEY'RE SEEING SIGN SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN SALES TAX REVENUE.
UM, AND THEN THE IDA PAYMENT SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME UNDER THE STRUCTURED AGREEMENT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
ASSUMING WE GET TO A FINALIZED CONTRACT, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE YEARS AT ESSENTIALLY THE SAME LEVEL THAT WE'RE GENERATING THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WE'LL START TO SEE A COST ACCELERATION OVER THE REMAINING 12 YEARS OF THE CONTRACT.
UH, ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND, WE ANTICIPATE TOTAL REVENUES SUGGEST SLIGHTLY NORTH OF $9.7 MILLION.
WE WILL HAVE TO INCREASE THE WATER RATES.
AGAIN, JUST TO KEEP PACE WITH OUR FRIENDS AT BWA, UH, THEIR BASE RATE IS GOING UP 30 CENTS THIS YEAR FROM 5 4 96 TO 5 26 PER THOUSAND GALLONS.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, THE RATE INCREASES ARE HONESTLY NEEDED IF WE'RE GOING TO START TO ADDRESS THE LONG TERM NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS TO INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL EXPENSE BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET.
UH, WE GOING FORWARD THOUGH, HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE NEED AS WE HAVE ABOUT 50 MILES WORTH OF WATER AND SEWER LINES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED THROUGHOUT THE OLDER PART OF THE CITY.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS THROUGH DEBT.
AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO DEBT IS BY RAISING RATES.
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UH, WE'VE CLOSED THE GAP ON REVENUE AND ARE PROJECTING THIS YEAR TO FINISH ON THE ENTERPRISE SIDE IN THE BLACK, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT WE NEED TO SUSTAIN THAT FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS TO MODEL TO THE BANKS, UH, THAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF SERVICING DEBT OUT OF THAT FUND.WE ALSO HAVE FUND DEBT FALLING OFF OF THAT, BUT WE'LL SAVE THAT FOR THE VERY END WHEN EVERYBODY'S REALLY TIRED AND I DON'T WANNA PAY, DOESN'T WANNA PAY ATTENTION ANYMORE.
UH, THIS BUDGET DOES INCLUDE A 2% COLA FOR ALL STAFF.
UH, WE HAVE ELIMINATED, UH, CURRENTLY UNFILLED, BUT UH, BUDGETED POSITIONS IN SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS.
UH, I THINK WE HAVE A CID POSITION THAT HASN'T BEEN FILLED.
AND CEMS POSITIONS WILL TAKE THOSE OFF THE BOOKS BECAUSE THEY WERE RUNNING THE NUMBERS UP, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE NOT FILLED.
UH, WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT STAFFING LATER THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UH, THE POTENTIAL REALIGNMENT OF STAFF WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS AND REVISITING THE OPTION FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICE.
UH, THOSE ARE ALL TOUGH CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE.
UM, BUT THEY'RE ONES THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE HAD.
UH, WE, THE NUMBERS YOU'RE GONNA SEE TODAY REFLECT A 25% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE COST.
UH, WE JUST FRESH OFF THE PRESSES FOUND OUT THAT OUR BASE NUMBER HAS BEEN COME DOWN ALREADY TO 22%, BUT WE HOPE TO GET IT LOWER.
UH, NEXT LEVEL PRIME HAS BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS FOR US.
UTILIZATION IS VERY, VERY HIGH.
AND ACTUALLY OUR LOSS RATIO HAS DROPPED FROM 90, WE WERE AT WHAT, 96.5 THIS TIME LAST YEAR,
SO WE'VE DROPPED OUR LOSS RATIO BY 20 POINTS.
THE PROBLEM IS THE MARKET HAS SHIFTED SO DRASTICALLY IN HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, THAT WE'RE REALLY, UH, WE'RE NOT CATCHING UP TO WHERE WE THINK WE SHOULD BE IN TERMS OF RATE CAPTURE.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE IN A, IN A, IN A HARD SPOT WITH HEALTH INSURANCE.
UH, WE HAVE AN AGING POPULATION.
UH, SO OUR CLAIM NUMBERS, EVEN THOUGH OUR LOSS RATIO IS DOWN, THE MODEL ANTICIPATES US, OUR COSTS GOING UP AND THE BURDEN TO THE, THE BURDEN ON THE LEVERAGE ON THE LOSS RATIO INCREASING AS WELL.
WE DO, UH, HAVE SOME CAPITAL ONE TIME COSTS IN HERE.
UH, THREE NEW PATROL VEHICLES FOR DITCH MAINTENANCE, UH, DITCH MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS, CITY HALL IMPROVEMENTS FOR A DA COMPLIANCE AND SECURITY.
WE'RE GONNA COMPLETE THE IN CODE 10 TRANSITION.
UH, WE HAVE A REVISED PLAN FOR OUTSOURCED MOWING AND LANDSCAPING.
UH, AND WE'VE INCLUDED THOSE NUMBERS IN FUND OH FIVE.
THIS IS WHAT THE OVERALL PICTURE LOOKS LIKE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE LOOKED TO FINISH THE YEAR A LITTLE BIT IN THE RED BASED ON CURRENT REVENUE PROJECTIONS.
WE ARE ALSO IN THE INITIAL PROPOSED BUDGET.
THE PRELIMINARY, LOOKING AT A FUND DRAWDOWN OF $1.2 MILLION, ALMOST 1.3, DEPENDING ON WHICH OPTION THAT COUNCIL LIKES TO GO WITH, WITH SOLID WASTE, HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE BOTTOM LINE AND ON THE, ON WHAT THAT NET, EXCUSE ME, THAT NET DRAW IS.
UM, AND SO THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY STARK THERE, BUT WE CAN KIND OF GO INTO, GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY AS WE DO THAT.
UH, ONE CHANGE TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
WE, IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WE ANTICIPATED ZEROING OUT THE GENERAL FUND CONSTRUCTION FUND IN ORDER TO COVER THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROOF REPAIR, REMEDIATION, AND MOLD, UH, RENOVATION AT CITY HALL.
SO THAT IS REFLECTED IN THIS, IN THIS TOTAL.
SO WHEN YOU SEE A ZERO, CAN YOU, YEAH, WHEN YOU SEE A ZERO HERE, THAT NUMBER'S NOW INCLUDED UP THERE AGAIN, IN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
UH, BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE SURROUNDING SOLID WASTE, WE HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO, UH, THERE AND WHAT THE IMPACT TO THE BOTTOM LINE IS.
IN THE OVERALL FUND BALANCE IN THAT FUND WOULD BE THREE 80.
UH, THERE'S NOT BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIVITY, BUT EVEN IF THERE WERE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE ACCOUNTING WORKS, THE, THE ACCRUALS, THOSE ALWAYS SHOW ZEROS.
UM, ON A NET POSITIVE SIDE, WE ARE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF UPTICK IN OUR HOT COLLECTIONS.
UH, BUT WE, I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT SOUND SO ROSY BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S NOT THAT PARTICULARLY GREAT.
UH, THE MAJOR EXPENDITURE YOU SEE THERE IS RELATED TO THE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS, UH, STAFF AND THEN ALSO THE GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL IN SIDEWALK STREETS AND DRAINAGE.
WE HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW.
UH, THERE'LL BE, HAVE TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT OUR REVENUES ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE, FOLLOWING ON SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH GLO THE OTHER DAY.
UH, BUT WE, BECAUSE OF THE COST SHOCK THAT WE ENCOUNTERED ON THE SEVERAL MAJOR STREET PROJECTS WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT YEARS, CIP, UH, WE WILL NOT BE EXPENDING THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAD PLANNED ON SO THAT THOSE FUNDS WILL CARRY FORWARD INTO THIS NEXT YEAR.
WE DO, AS YOU CAN SEE, HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE LINED OUT FOR THE CIP IN THE STREETS, UH, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO TRY AND PLAY CATCH UP.
UH, WE HAVE REVISED PRICING AND WE THINK WE HAVE A, UH, A MODEL THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY EXECUTE ON.
NOW, JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL AN IDEA, WE HAD BUDGETED $1.5 MILLION FOR, UH, THE OLD ANGLETON PROJECT.
AND THE INITIAL ENGINEERING CAME BACK AT
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$700,000 JUST FOR THE ENGINEERING WITH AN ANTICIPATED COST OF ALMOST $3 MILLION.SO WE HAD TO SHELF THAT PROJECT PRETTY QUICK.
UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE DO, UH, WE'RE REGAINING SOME FUND BALANCE OVER THERE.
THIS PA THIS NEXT YEAR, UH, WE MADE THE MODIFICATIONS AND THE TRANSFERS THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, IN THAT BUDGET THEN PARTICIPATING IN THE REMOTE REMEDIATION AND RENOVATION PROJECT, AS WELL AS COMPLETING THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS AT SHANKS LAKE OR GETTING US TO A POINT AT THE SHANKS LAKE.
AND ALSO COMPLETING THE, UH, POCKET PARK PROJECT THERE ON MAIN STREET AS THEIR BIG FUNCTION.
WE DO NOT SEE ON THE HORIZON ANY SIGNIFICANT THREE S UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC CHANGES WITH THE IDA, IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD HAVE TO RESTRUCTURE SOME OF THOSE AGREEMENTS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK TO THE EDC BOARD ABOUT MAKING THEIR GUIDELINES A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE, UH, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO FOSTER A SMALL BUSINESS LOCALLY.
GREG TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL IS, UH, IS OBVIOUSLY A FLOW THROUGH DEBT SERVICE FUND.
UH, WE ARE BUYING DOWN DEBT, AS YOU CAN TELL.
UM, WE'RE NEARING THE MATURATION ON SEVERAL NODES, WHICH IS A GOOD SIGN FOR US THAT THE MORE CAPACITY WE HAVE THERE, THE MORE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
ALTHOUGH, UH, I DID READ THIS MORNING THAT THERE'S YET ANOTHER BILL ATTEMPTING TO BE FILED TO TAKE AWAY THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, WHICH WILL HAMSTRING US AND FORCE ALL DEBT ISSUE TO GO TO A VOTE.
AND THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BECOME REALLY STRONG ADVOCATES FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO GOING FORWARD.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD TAKE ON ANY DEBT WOULD HAVE TO GO BEYOND BE A VOTE? YES.
THAT'S WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
AGAIN, WHAT THEY'RE PUSHING FOR, THEY'VE, THEY'VE PUSHED THIS THE LAST THREE SESSIONS.
UM, BUT IT JUST TAKES THIS PAST TIME IT WAS THREE VOTES.
SO NOT ONLY ARE YOU ADDING THE DEBT, YOU'RE ADDING THE COST OF ELECTION AS WELL.
GOD BLESS AUSTIN ENTERPRISE FUND, UH, THIS YEAR WE LOOK TO FINISH IN THE, IN THE BLACK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WHILE.
UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UH, THAT'S AGAIN, THAT THANKS TO THE RATE STRUCTURE, JOHN'S DILIGENCE ON KEEPING COSTS DOWN, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE COMPLETED SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL PROJECTS.
NEXT YEAR, WE PROJECT TO FINISH, UH, ABOUT THE SAME PLACE, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN TERMS OF, UH, NET REVENUE.
UH, BUT A HEALTHIER FUND BALANCE.
UH, ENTERPRISE REPLACEMENT FUND, UH, CONTINUES TO STAND HEALTHY.
THE UNEMPLOYMENT FUND, WE ANTICIPATE ROLLING INTO THE REGULAR O2 FUND.
UH, SINCE WE HAVE NO, WELL, WE HAVE TWO DEDICATED STAFF, BUT WE ALLOCATE THAT COST OVER ACROSS THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ALSO IN, IN ANTICIPATES THE DRAW DOWN OF THE CONSTRUCTION FUND TO HELP FUND, UH, THE CIP PROJECTS, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR OF OUR CIP.
UH, LAST YEAR WAS MARKED BY, AND I PUT SLOW PROGRESS, BUT REALLY ZERO PROGRESS ON, ON SEVERAL OF THE FRONTS.
UH, WE DID GET THE PARKS PROJECTS COMPLETED.
WE GOT SOME OF THE WORK DONE ON THE, UH, ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND SIDE.
BUT ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, WE WERE STUCK AFTER WE GOT THE INITIAL COSTINGS BACK.
UH, SO WE'VE RESCALED PROJECTS AND SO WE THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO, UH, WE THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE IN A BETTER PLACE THIS NEXT CYCLE.
AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, WE BROKE THE CITY UP INTO 12 ZONES.
UH, EACH ZONE IS DIVIDED BY A MANMADE OR NATURAL BARRIER.
UM, LIKE A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLANT, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE OR A DRAINAGE CHANNEL.
AND SO, UH, TO REMIND, UH, THE FOLKS IN WOOD SHORE AND COLLEGE PARK, THEY'RE SO NEW, WE SHOULDN'T BE SEEING THE NEED FOR A SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE REVAMP UP THERE FOR PROBABLY ANOTHER 30 TO 35 YEARS.
UM, IT'S THE REST OF THE CITY THAT, THAT IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF HELP.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TRANSITIONING.
THIS IS AGAIN, THE MODEL STREET WAY WITH ASPHALT, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO GOING FORWARD.
AND HERE IS THE CIP FOR THE GENERAL FUND OR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS.
AND SO OUR ANTICIPATION IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUDGETED IN IS A 34, 31 WOOD, 31 FOOT WIDTH ROADWAY, EXTENSION CONCRETE AT EIGHT INCHES FROM THE POINT JUST SOUTH OF BUCKY'S, WHERE THE CURRENT CONCRETE SECTION LIES ALL THE WAY TO MAIN STREET.
WE CAN SCALE THIS A NUMBER OF WAYS.
UH, SO IF WE WANNA DO IT POINT TO POINT YEAR OVER YEAR, UH, BUT THE CURRENT COSTING LOOKS LIKE ABOUT $2 MILLION.
NOW, EARLIER I REFERENCED THE $3 MILLION COST.
THAT WAS WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE ROADWAY TO 35 A STANDARD WIDTH, THE 35 FEET THAT WAS WITH A SIDEWALK INSTALLATION, AND THAT WAS WITH CURB AND GUTTER.
THIS IS JUST THE ROAD REBUTTING
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IT, COMING IN, PUTTING AN OVERLAY IN, AND THEN REPLACING THE ASPHALT WITH CONCRETE.UH, AND WHAT WAS KIND OF SHOCKING IS, IN OUR ESTIMATIONS, CONCRETE IS NOW CHEAPER DOWN HERE TO GET THAN ASPHALT.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT'S, THAT'S SO WHERE IT IS BIZARRE, UM, STRATTON RIDGE IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF WORK.
UH, THIS WOULD CARRY A 31 FOOT CONCRETE SECTION FROM THE POINT WHERE THE CONCRETE CURRENTLY ENDS.
THEREBY IS IT THE PINES? IT'S VANDERBILT, VANDERBILT, UH, ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE LEVEE.
UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR UNIFORM UNIFORMITY.
IT WOULD ALSO PUT US ON A MORE SOLID ROAD DECK THAT'S NOT GONNA BE AS FLEXIBLE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE ROADWAY FOR THIS PORTION OF THE PROJECT, THAT, THAT ESTIMATE CAME IN AT $1.1 MILLION.
ALONGSIDE THAT, UH, WE HAVE YEAR SIX OF THE ORIGINAL SIDEWALK, CIP FROM 2019 CALLED FOR THE EXTENSION OF SIDEWALK OUT TO STRATTON RIDGE PARK.
UH, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $210,000.
IT WOULD CONNECT IN WHERE THE CURRENT SIDEWALK STOPS, UH, THERE IN FRONT OF.
IS IT, DOES IT MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE CHURCH ON STRATTON RIDGE? MM-HMM
SO FROM THAT POINT OUT TO THE PARK, TO THE MIDPOINT OF THE PARK IS WHAT THAT REFLECTS, UH, BRIAN'S SUBDIVISION.
WE, UH, AS A PART OF THE ONGOING WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS IN THERE, THE ENGINEERS HAVE ALREADY REDESIGNED THE STREETS RELAYED PLAN FOR THE RELOCATION OF CURB AND GUTTER.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE WATER AND SEWER.
AND THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAGNOLIA, MAGNOLIA WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN ITS CURRENT STATE FOR A TIME.
THIS IS ALL THE OTHER STREETS.
SO IT'S COLEMAN SHA, UH, HAYNES, UH, C CHARLOTTE, JAMES, JAMES MONTGOMERY, AND JAMES COLEMAN, JAMES MONTGOMERY, AND COLEMAN WOULD BE CONVERTED OVER TO THE NEW MODEL WITH CURB, GUTTER AND SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE.
UH, AND THEN WE INCLUDED $82,000 FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY.
WE NEED TO DO A DRAINAGE STUDY ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
WE HAVE A CURRENT PLAN FOR EVERYTHING, BASICALLY WEST OF TEMPLE DITCH, WHICH IS THE DITCH THAT RUNS BISECT TARGET.
AND DOWN TO THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, DOW CANAL.
UH, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, BECAUSE THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.
THE LAST STUDY I FOUND WAS FROM 1979.
SO THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ONE DONE BECAUSE THERE'S REFERENCE TO IT IN THE MINUTES, BUT I CAN'T FIND AN ACTUAL COPY OF IT.
THE ONLY THING THAT DONE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, THE ROAD THAT I KNOW OF, OKAY.
UM, WAS DONE PROBABLY 15 YEARS AGO.
YEAH, I HADN'T FOUND THE COPY.
DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT ON THAT ONE IN ROW? NO, BUT IT WAS DONE BEFORE THE SIDEWALK WE PUT IN.
SO, UH, BUT WE DO NEED, WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE STUDY FOR BASICALLY THE ENTIRETY OF GOLD LAKE BARBARA, AND THEN THE EASTERN SIDE OF TOWN, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 2 88 B UH, PEN MONEY, GLO, HAZMAT
SO THAT MONEY IN THOSE PROJECTS, UH, MAY BE SHELVED.
UH, WE DID INCLUDE $150,000 IN PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, UH, 50,000 FOR THE DOOR REPLACEMENT AT CITY HALL.
AND THEN $80,000, WHICH WOULD BE THE GENERAL FUND SIDE OF THE, UH, REMAINING FUNDING FOR THE REMEDIATION AND RENOVATION.
UH, BECAUSE THE EDC WAS IN ITS CHARTER, ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, INCLUDING THIS BUILDING AND CITY HALL, UH, WE'VE ATTRIBUTED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THAT REMAINING COST TO THAT PROJECT.
UH, AND THEN, UH, $75,000 EACH FOR THE LAST, FOR THE PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT REMAINING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S 230 TOTAL FOR CITY HALL, 75 FOR SHANKS, AND 75 FOR THE MAIN STREET POCKET PARK PROJECT.
AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE OLD ANGLETON ROAD LOOK PROJECT LOOKS LIKE.
WE ESTIMATE THAT AT RIGHT AT TWO MAIN, BUT THAT'S FOR THE PAVEMENT ONLY.
IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE DRAINAGE, NOTHING FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
AND AT A 31 FOOT WIDTH, WHICH IS STANDARD TO WHAT THE EXISTING PROFILE IS, STRATTON RIDGE, AGAIN CARRYING FORWARD, UH, FROM THE, UH, THE END OF THE CONCRETE CURRENT CONCRETE PAVED SECTION OUT TO THE LEVEE.
UH, WHICH I WOULD NOTE ALSO DOVETAILS WITH A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY BE OCCURRING HERE AT THE NORTH SIDE OF OLD LAKE BARBARA, UH, THE ACTUAL LAKE LAKE AREA.
UM, WE'VE GOT A DEVELOPER WHO'S LOOKING AT STARTING SOMETHING, AND THIS WOULD FACILITATE THAT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE VALUE, UH, GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN THE ORANGE LINE IS THE, UH, EXTENSION OF SIDEWALK INTO STRATTON RIDGE BRYANT SUBDIVISION.
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GREEN LINES INDICATE WHERE THE STREETS ARE, UM, WHERE THEY'RE GOING IN, UH, CONNECTED INTO THE NEW OLD ANGLETON.SO THAT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE, WE'LL BE BASICALLY BRAND NEW FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, AND IT'S AN ODD PLACE TO START.
UM, BUT IT'S GOT THE MOST HEAVILY DENSITY DENSIFIED LMI POPULATION, WHICH ALLOWS US TO, UH, TO USE CDBG FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY.
UM, AND IT ALSO IS COMPACT ENOUGH THAT IT SERVES AS A PERFECT MODEL FOR WHAT WE WANNA DO THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS EMITS THE, THIS EMITS THE, UH, THE MAGNOLIA STREET BECAUSE THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A MONSTER, SEPARATE AND APART DRAINAGE AND IDA, NOW WE GET TO SOME OF THE FUN STUFF.
UH, WE HAVE ABOUT $3.9 MILLION, IF YOU RECALL.
UH, ONE WAS THE HAZMAT PROJECT, WHICH WAS TO ORIGINALLY TO CONDUCT DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG FLAG LAKE DRIVE, DITCH A, UH, AND THEN PENN MONEY PHASE ONE.
UM, AND THEN PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE MID MOD, UH, WHICH IS $1.22 MILLION FOR THE INLINE DETENTION BASIN THAT WOULD FEED INTO THE PEN MONEY CHANNEL GOING SOUTH.
SO IF YOU WANNA THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MADE THESE DIFFERENT COLORS.
WHERE THE ARROW IS NOW IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE MIT MOD $1.2 MILLION FOR INLINE DETENTION.
WHERE MY ARROW IS RIGHT NOW IS THE, UH, HAZMAT, WHICH IS PIN MONEY PHASE ONE, WHICH WOULD IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE BASINS ON BOTH SIDES OF PLANTATION.
AND THEN CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS POINT INSIDE THE DITCH TO HOLD GREATER CAPACITY AND MOVE THE WATER FROM THIS BROADER AREA MORE QUICKLY THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND OUT TO THE DOW CANAL.
UH, WHEN WE HAD TO RETRENCH THE, UH, THE FLAG LAKE PROJECT, YOU'LL RECALL BACK, I THINK IT WAS IN JANUARY, I BROUGHT COUNCIL, UH, A MODEL WHERE WE WERE GOING TO UP OR INCREASE THE ACTUAL WORK THAT WAS DONE ON PENN MONEY PHASE ONE IN AN EFFORT TO TRY AND SECURE OR KEEP AS MUCH OF THE FUNDING AVAILABLE, UH, THAT WE HAD IN THAT GRANT, THAT BUDGET CAME OUT TO ABOUT $2.6 MILLION, AND THAT WAS INCLUDED SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WASN'T ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.
WE WERE GONNA CONNECT THE SIDEWALK USING THOSE GRANT DOLLARS FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY TERMINATES BY ROYAL WILDWOOD AND CARRY THAT AROUND TO MEET WHERE WE BROUGHT THE DIXIE, UH, SIDEWALK EXTENSION FROM TWO YEARS AGO TOO, ON TOP OF BOX CULBERT.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT REALLY DEEP DITCH WHERE WE HAVE THE YELLOW CURB MARKERS, AND I'VE HAD A FEW FOLKS GO OFF THAT WOULD ENCLOSE THAT, PUT BOX CULBERT IN, AND THEN PUT SIDEWALK ON TOP OF THAT.
SO THE ROAD AT GRADE AT THOSE CROSSINGS WOULD BE HIGHER THAN IT IS NOW.
UM, I, I WISH I HAD A BETTER WAY TO SCHEME IT UP AND I SHOULD HAVE GENERATED A, AN IMAGE TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND.
BUT ALL OF THIS IS NOW IN A STATE OF FLOGS.
UH, AND SO IT GETS BACK TO OUR FIGHT WITH ENERGY TRANSFER AND THEIR RECALCITRANT, UH, NOT WANTING TO REMOVE THEIR PIPELINE FROM FLAG LAKE DRIVE.
UH, AT SOME POINTS IT'S LITERALLY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE LINE STICKING THROUGH THE SIDEWALL OF THE DITCH.
THEY HAVE DECIDED THAT THEY'RE GONNA FIGHT AS TOOTH AND NAIL.
UM, THEY'RE A MUCH BETTER RESOURCE THAN WE ARE.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THEY KNEW THAT THEY COULD RUN OUT THE CLOCK ON THIS GRANT.
OUR DEADLINE FOR EXPENDITURE UNDER THE HAZMAT PROGRAM IS DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, WITH THE FINAL PERFORMANCE DATE OF JANUARY OF 2027.
IN ORDER TO GET THEM MOVED, WE WERE LOOKING AT A LENGTHY LEGAL FIGHT.
SO WE HAVE AGREED TO AMEND AND EXCISE THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT AND TRY AND FOLD THAT INTO, UH, WHAT WE CALL PENN MONEY PHASE ONE.
THE PROBLEM
WE'D HAVE ABOUT $500,000, I'M SORRY, $1.5 MILLION TO, TO CLOSE THAT GAP.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT COMES WITH ANY CHANGE, UH, IS THE FUNDING OWED FOR THE PLANS DEVELOPED FOR THE FLAG LAKE DRAINAGE PROJECT.
SO WE'RE LEFT WITH SOME PRETTY UNSAVORY, UH, OR UNPOPULAR, UH, DECISIONS TO MAKE.
AND MAYBE WE'RE GONNA GO THERE.
OH, BASICALLY IF YOU DO PHASE TWO, WITHOUT PHASE ONE, YOU GOT NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO, RIGHT? YEAH.
IF YOU FLOODED TWO NEIGHBORHOODS.
WELL, I WAS GONNA ASK IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT LAKE JACKSON'S DOING A BUNCH OF STUFF ON DIXIE DRIVE, BUT ON, ON THEIR SIDE, ARE THEY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE WATERWAYS THAT ARE ON THE KLU SIDE, OR IS THAT OURS? NO, LET ME, YEAH, LET ME KIND OF GET INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
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BUT ALL THAT WATER IS COMING DOWN TO THESE AREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.THAT'S THE DITCH ON BOTH SIDES OF DIXIE DRIVE BELONG TO LAKE JACKSON.
SO WHEN WE HAD THE DRAINAGE STUDY DONE IN 20 16, 20 18, AND THEN APPLIED FOR THIS FUNDING, THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING THAT DRAINAGE WAY FROM FLAG LAKE DRIVE DOWN, AND THAT LAKE JACKSON WAS GONNA BE A CO-EQUAL PARTICIPANT WITH US IN THAT PROCESS.
AND SO WHEN IT KIND CAME TIME TO SUBMIT OUR HAZMAT APPLICATION, THOUGH, THEY PULLED BACK AND DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO THE PROJECT.
THE, THE WORK THAT YOU'RE SEEING BEING DONE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IN ESSENCE PROVIDES RELIEF TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF SYCAMORE, UH, IN THAT AREA THERE ALONG OYSTER CREEK DRIVE, I GET IT.
THEIR CONSTITUENTS YELL THAT WAS WHAT THEY CONSIDERED TO BE THE, THE PRIORITY, BUT NOW THEY'VE GOT THEIR CONSTITUENTS SOUTH OF THAT YELLING BECAUSE THEIR WORK'S NOT GONNA GET DONE BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE, THE ENERGY TRANSFER LINE CLEARED OUT.
I'M GOING TO, IF IT ACTUALLY COUNSEL WILL PERMIT ME, I'M GONNA CLOSE THIS OFF REAL QUICK AND KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SECOND THING IS, IS ALL THE STUFF THAT THEY'RE DOING, IF THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO, I MEAN, IT'S, WELL, SO THAT, THAT WORK THAT YOU SEE OCCURRING THERE GOES DOWN, DIXIE COMES BACK UP ACROSS AND THEN GOES INTO DITCH A.
SO THERE'S ACTUAL CAPACITY THERE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR WATER OUT.
THROUGH DITCH A AND THE VDD SYSTEM TO OYSTER CREEK, WHERE WE GOT STUCK, TURN THIS OFF WAS OVER THERE BEHIND LIKE TEXAS GULF BANK.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE TELEPHONE COMPANY OR WHOEVER WON'T MOVE THEIR LINE.
UH, IT'S THE PIPELINE COMPANY.
SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN YELLOW, UH, WERE THE ORIGINAL CATCHMENT BASINS FOR THE ORIGINAL PROJECT AS WE DEFINED IT UNDER THE YELLOW.
THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE IS PRIMARILY IN LAKE JACKSON, BUT IT ALL DRAINS TO A POINT EITHER HERE CARRYING EAST OR WEST INTO, I'M SORRY, NO, EAST INTO THE PENN MONEY SYSTEM OR SOUTH, DIRECTLY ALONG FLAG LAKE DRIVE.
AND SO WHEN, UH, THE COUNCIL MEETING WAS HAD, I GUESS IT WAS LAST WEEK THAT, UH, WE CAME UP AND THIS PROJECT CAME UP IN THE LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REFERENCING.
AND THE REASON THIS FLOODS IS BECAUSE ALL OF THIS STRAINS TO A POINT ABOUT HERE COMES AND ENTERS OUR SYSTEM, MOVES UP, AND THEN DOWN INTO THE SYSTEM, WELL, WE'RE BLOCKED HERE FROM BEING ABLE TO DO ANY WORK.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT EVEN SAFE TO GET IN THERE AND CLEAR DITCHES WITH THE DEPTH OF THAT ENERGY TRANSFER PIPELINE.
SO THIS IS GONNA CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM FOR LAKE JACKSON AS LONG AS ENERGY TRANSFER IS IN PLACE.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE KIND OF TALKED WITH LAKE JACKSON ABOUT IS, IS HEY, A JOIN, YOU SHOULD HAVE JOINED WITH US WHEN YOU DID BECAUSE TWO CITIES SQUAWKING IS BETTER THAN ONE CITY SQUAWKING.
UH, PLUS YOU HAVE MORE RESOURCES THAN WE DO IN THE WHITE AREAS.
THE CATCHMENT BASIN FOR PENN MONEY.
THIS IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE REFLECTIVE NEED TO ENHANCE THE DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA.
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS HERE AT TW A, WHEN WE HAVE A STEADY, A PRETTY HEAVY RAIN, WE'LL STILL SEE WATER IN THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES BACKING UP THIS WAY ALONG THIS ROUTE.
AND SO THE IDEA WAS, IS WE WERE GOING TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL AND OUTFLOW OF PEN MONEY TO GET THE WATER MOVED DOWN THE PLANTATION FASTER AND OUT TO THE, THE CANAL HOLD THIS WATER, BUT PROVIDED A, A, AN INLINE DETENTION BASIN SO THAT THAT WATER HAD COULD STACK BEFORE IT ENTERED THIS SYSTEM.
UH, THAT'S ALL IN JEOPARDY NOW BASED ON THESE DECISIONS BY GLO.
AND SO LET ME TAKE US BACK TO THAT SLIDE SO WE CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE.
UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE LET THE CONTRACT AND HAVE A CONTRACTOR READY TO GO, UH, THEY WANT US TO BASICALLY CONTINUE WITH THE AMENDMENT REQUEST.
OPTION ONE, CONTINUE WITH AN AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR THE HAZMAT FOCUSING ON PEN MONEY PHASE ONE DELI GETTING ROUGHLY $6 MILLION, UH, FOR THE FLAG LAKE ALLOCATIONS.
AND THEN REQUEST A WAIVER FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN RENDERED.
WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE GLO AND WHAT WE WANNA MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OF IS WE HAD ALREADY HAD THE ENGINEERING DONE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
WE HAVE A SHOVEL READY PROJECT ALONG FLAG LAKE DRIVE.
WE JUST CAN'T MOVE SHOVELS BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WITH THE, WITH THE PIPELINE.
AND SO THAT COSTS, THOSE ENGINEERING COSTS WERE BORNE BY THE GRANT.
WELL, IF THE GRANT GOES AWAY, WE'RE THEN STUCK.
AND SO, UH, THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT WE CAN GET A WAIVER OR REQUEST A WAIVER.
OPTION TWO IS TERMINATE THE HAZMAT CONTRACT AND ATTEMPT TO RECRAFT THE MID MOD, WHICH IS THE INLINE DETENTION, UH, TO INSTEAD COMPLETE PEN MONEY PHASE ONE, AND AGAIN, REQUEST A WAIVER ON THE ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATED TO FLAG LAKE LAKE.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IS THERE'S
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A $1.5 MILLION GAP IN FINANCING BECAUSE THERE IS NO MORE MOD MONEY MOD MONEY AVAILABLE TO PUT TOWARDS THIS.AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY UNDER THE HAIDT IF WE, IF WE TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT.
OPTION THREE IS TO TERMINATE BOTH PROJECTS AND THEN REAPPLY UNDER A GLO RELOCATION GRANT OPPORTUNITY AND THEN AGAIN, REQUEST THIS WAIVER THAT THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE RISK.
THERE IS A, WE'RE TURNING BACK THAT MONEY, AND B, WE AREN'T, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE GIVEN US A WINK AND A NUDGE AND TOLD US THAT WE WILL GET FAVORABLE TREATMENT UNDER THE REALLOCATION PLAN, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WE GET THOSE GRANTS BACK.
OPTION FOUR IS CONTINUE THE HAZMAT AND THE MIT MOD HOPE THAT THE GLO WOULD CONSIDER, UH, TAKING THE APPORTIONMENT OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS A PLANNING GRANT AND COVERING THOSE COSTS THAT WAY.
UH, THAT WOULD BE THE OPTIMAL, I BELIEVE IN OUR, IF WE'RE ABLE TO PULL THAT OFF, THAT WOULD BE THE OPTIMAL DECISION TO MAKE FOR US.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT GLO, UH, WILL ACTUALLY DO OR SAY IN THAT REGARD.
WE HAD A CALL WITH THEM THURSDAY MORNING.
UH, WE'RE GONNA REVISIT WITH THEM EARLY NEXT WEEK TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT IS IF IS THE PLANNING GRANT EVEN A POSSIBILITY? UM, WHEN WE DISCUSS THE WAIVER, AND FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, IT'S A ONE TIME OCCURRENCE.
THE CITY CAN ASK FOR IT ONE TIME IN ITS ENTIRE EXISTENCE.
AND THEY BASICALLY TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD GRANT IT.
UH, BUT THE CATCH IS THAT HUD DOESN'T HAVE TO GRANT IT, HAS NEVER GRANTED IT, AND MAY COME BACK AND ASK FOR THE FEE WAIVER, UH, TO BE REPAID AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY, IN MY MIND, THE WAIVER IS, IS A BAD ASK BECAUSE IT PUTS US ON THE HOOK FOR SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY ON THE HOOK FOR
ALSO, REMEMBER THAT, THAT ON THE WAIVER THING, THEIR STANDARD WAIVER THEY SAID WAS THREE TO THREE TO $7,000 AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF A LITTLE OVER A MILLION, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THE THING ABOUT IT IS, EITHER OPTION WE TAKE, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HOOK FOR ABOUT A MILLION BUCKS.
SO UNLESS THEY COME UP, EVERYTHING WENT SOUTH, WE'D BE ON, WE'D BE OVER THE HOOK FOR ABOUT A MILLION.
SO, UH, AT THIS POINT WE'RE WAITING ON GLL TO RESPOND TO US.
UH, BUT IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, WE END UP WITH A PLANNING GRANT THAT THEY CAN THEN USE FOR A FUTURE PROJECT OR, UH, AND THEN CONTINUE ON WITH THE HAZMAT AND THE MID MOD.
NOT, IT'S NOT, AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING AND MAKE A DECISION.
YEAH, YOU WANNA DO THAT NOW, OR IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE PROBABLY SHOULD BE DISCUSSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I WOULD THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO BRING UP TO
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S IMPROPER TALK ABOUT, BUT AS FAR AS WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISION FOR PURPOSE.
I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR A MILLION DOLLARS.
IS IT AN EXTREMELY GOOD ASSUMPTION? CORRECT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? HAPPY NOTE.
RIGHT? MOVING ON TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND, CIP, UH, THIS YEAR'S PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA FINISH THE BUMPY ROAD LIFT STATION PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT DID TERRY GAVE YOU AN UPDATE ON? SEE THEY'VE COMPLETED ALL THE TOPO AND YOUR PROCESS MOVED TO THE NEXT STAGES ON ALL THREE OF THEM.
UH, WE INCLUDED THE, SO THE LIFT STATION ITSELF IS ABOUT $1.1 MILLION.
AND REMIND COUNSEL WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
THAT STATION CARRIES 65% OF THE TOTAL WASTEWATER FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
IT'S WOEFULLY UNDERSIZED AND IT NEEDS TO BE INCREASED, UH, FOR FUTURE CAPACITY.
BUMPY DORSETT, UH, THIS FORCE MAIN THAT RUNS BACK ACROSS THERE DOWN TOWARDS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THE LIFT STATION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME RE REMEDIAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.
WE HAVE THE EMERALD SUBDIVISION, UH, WHICH THE SEWER LINES ARE AC UH, THEY'RE CLAY.
SO IT'S EVEN OLDER THAN I THOUGHT.
UH, AND THOSE NEED TO BE REPLACED 'CAUSE THEY WILL START FAILING SOON.
AND THEN THE BRYANT SUBDIVISION
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IS AUGMENTED BY $220,000 OF, UH, CDBG MONEY.SO OUR NET COST IS ABOUT $400,000.
UH, BUT THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS WELL.
AND THOSE TO GIVE EVERYBODY A REMINDER, THAT'S THIS MUSTARD GLUB ON THE MAP, UH, WHERE THE SEWER WORK WILL BE TAKING PLACE.
AND THEN HERE'S THE BUMPY ROAD LIFT STATION AND THE TWO ACCOMPANYING, UH, SEWER LINE PROJECTS GO ALONG WITH IT.
WHAT IS ABOVE B ROAD ELICITATION? WE, WE EXPECTING THAT TO START, WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 80% THROUGH ENGINEERING.
SO ONCE WE HIT 90%, WE'LL BE READY TO, LET FORBID AND HOPEFULLY GET THAT STARTED EARLY THIS FALL, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GOING AWAY
THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS THE BROWN COMING BACK, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE BROWN NEEDS TO GO DOWN AS THE SAME GOES.
SO, UH, REFLECTED IN FUND ONE OR FUND OH FIVE IS THE, UH, ARE THE PROJECTS WE JUST DISCUSSED? IT DOES INCLUDE FOR NOW THE GRANT REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH GLO, UH, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO MODEL IT IN OR OUT, UH, AT THIS TIME.
UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME TO A DECISION ON THAT PRETTY SOON THOUGH.
REVENUE WISE, UH, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT BETTER YEARS SO FAR, OR PROJECTING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER YEAR THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
BUT GIVEN THE OVERALL SALES TAX TREND, WE'RE KEEPING THE NUMBER WHERE WE DID IN TERMS OF REVENUE THERE AND BUYING.
YOU SAID THAT THE SALES TAX THINGS CHANGE, WE BUYING ONLINE, WE'RE NOT GETTING VERY MUCH NO, NO, NO, NO.
IT'S BEEN A HUGE BOON BOON TO US.
THAT IT WAS A, IT WAS A HUGE THING AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENED.
THEY VOTED WELL, THEY TRIED TO CHALLENGE IT AND THEY CHANGED.
AND THEN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE LEGISLATURE, THE ONE THING THEY DID RIGHT FOR US WAS THEY CODIFIED THE ALLOCATION OF POINT OF SALE DEFINED AS A POINT OF SALE DELIVERY.
DEFINE POINT OF SALE, DEFINED AS POINT OF DELIVERY FOR ONLINE SALES.
SO IF YOU ORDER SOMETHING AND HAVE IT DELIVERED HERE, THE CITY NET, THAT SALES TAX, IF YOU GO TO LAKE JACKSON AND PICK IT UP, THAT THAT GOES TO LAKE JACKSON.
SO, UH, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO PAY THAT LITTLE EXTRA DELIVERY FEE BECAUSE THAT HELPS US HUGELY WALMART PARTY.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY WALMART IS FREE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER LOWE'S HAS IT, BUT ANY OF THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT COME INTO THE CITY, THAT MONEY COMES HERE.
SO, UH, WE, WE, WE REALLY WANT TO URGE EVERYBODY, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT SHOP CYBER, NOT SHOP LOCAL
SO ORDER THROUGH THE APP, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR BIG, UH, ADVOCATING ADS LAST TIME WE WENT TO, TO AUSTIN.
SO THANKFULLY, UH, AND NOT TO BEGRUDGE OUR FRIENDS IN LAKE JACKSON AND KATY AND SUGARLAND AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT HAVE THE BIG RETAIL HUBS, BUT THAT HAS REALLY HELPED NOT JUST OURSELVES BUT SMALL TOWNS ALL ACROSS THE STATE.
SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING IT DELIVERED TO ME.
LOOKING AT, UH, THE SDS FUND, UH, WE'VE INCLUDED $385,000 FOR LANDSCAPING.
THAT'S THE MAJOR CHANGE COMPARED TO WHAT WAS SHOWN BEFORE.
WE'VE GOT THE 4.6 RELATED TO DRAINAGE PROJECTS, UH, SOME OF WHICH MAY BE GOING AWAY DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH GLL AND THEN $5.1 MILLION FOR THE STREETS AS OUTLINED PREVIOUSLY ON TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE AGAIN, A 7.5% INCREASE IN BASE RATE, UH, JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
THAT'S TO KEEP US IN THE BLACK AHEAD OF WHAT VWA IS, IS GONNA INCREASE.
UH, I'VE MODELED IT HIGHER, I'VE MODELED IT LOWER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO GO TOO HIGH, UH, BUT AT SOME POINT, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOTTA CONTINUE THIS TREND WHERE WE'RE FINISHING THE YEAR IN THE BLACK IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FINANCE FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED.
UH, TWO BIG THINGS TO NOTE HERE.
UH, WE MET WITH BRIDGEWOOD ON TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.
WE BOUGHT 'EM LUNCH, UH, GOT 'EM NICE AND CARVED UP AND THEN WE HIT 'EM WITH THE ASK FOR, UH, FOR WHAT THE APPORTIONMENT OF THE LINE LEASE.
WE HAVE AN ONGOING LINE LEASE THAT EXPIRED AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN COVERING THE DEBT SERVICE, BUT NOT ANY MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.
SO WE INCLUDED THE DEBT SERVICE THERE AND THEN WE EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT NONE OF THE WATER WOULD ENTER THAT LINE, UH, WITHOUT THIS LIFT STATION IN COLLEGE PARK.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
UM, WE'VE INCURRED ABOUT $380,000 WORTH OF EXPENSES IN REPAIRS TO THAT LIFT STATION OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND SO, UH, 70% OF THE WATER WE ESTIMATE
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FLOWS FROM RICHWOOD INTO THAT LIFT STATION.AND WE'VE GOT THEIR TENTATIVE AGREEMENT TO REPAY US 70% RECOUP THE COST OF THE 70% THAT THEY OWE US FOR THE PREVIOUS MAINTENANCE ON THAT.
AND THEN FACTORED INTO THIS NUMBER WILL BE A ONGOING MAINTENANCE, UH, RELATED TO THE, UH, RELATED TO THE LINE AS WE SCHEDULE OUT THAT REVENUE STREAM THOUGH FROM THEM, UH, THAT NOTE RETIRES IN THREE YEARS.
SO IT'LL JUST BE THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE COST GOING DOWN ONCE WE GET THE, UH, ONCE WE GET THAT NOTE RETIRED AND AS ABSOLUTELY NOBODY.
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'D HELP IF I DID THIS, WOULDN'T IT? OH, DANG IT.
SORRY, I'M TALKING AND YOU GUYS CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.
HERE ARE THE PROPOSED RATES FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT A 7.5% INCREASE ON THE BASE RATE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT PAGE THAT'S ON? UH, THAT IS GONNA BE PAGE, ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN THAT BOOK.
IT'S A SEPARATE WORKSHEET OR WORKBOOK THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.
UH, BUT AGGREGATE TOTAL, THAT LEADS TO ABOUT A $3.7 MILLION WATER, UH, REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT HAPPENS, WE GENERATE $1.3 MILLION IN WATER REVENUE, BUT WE ONLY NET 530,000 THANKS TO THE BWA CONTRACT.
AND SO THEIR COST, UH, LIKE I SAID IS GOING FROM 4 96 TO 5 26.
THAT ISLI OR PRELIMINARY PRIMARILY, I HAVE A COUPLE OF WORDS I KNOW, UH, PRIMARILY RELATED TO DEBT SERVICE ON B'S INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
AND MOST OF THAT COST IS ACTUALLY THE HARRIS RESERVOIR PROJECT.
NOW WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO SELL BACK.
IF YOU RECALL, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE BOUGHT UP SOME CAPACITY, UH, NOT KNOWING WHAT BASF WAS GOING TO BE USING.
UH, THEIR USAGE HAS MAINTAIN, HAS PRETTY WELL STABILIZED IT, IT DROPPED INITIALLY CAME BACK UP AND WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN FAIRLY STEADY WITH THEM AND SO WE DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT EXTRA PADDING AT THIS POINT.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET BWA TO MARKET THAT OFF, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO REDUCE OUR PRICING JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN EXCESS CAPACITY, CORRECT? YES.
BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD TO GO INTO THAT.
WHERE AVERAGE, WE'RE PROBABLY RUNNING ABOUT 1.3, 1.4.
AND SO OUR CONTRACT IS 1.5 TO 500 IN RESERVES.
BUT BACK THEN WHEN WE DID THIS, WE WERE ALSO PUSHING THE LIMIT ON WHERE WE WERE AT, AT THE 1.5.
BUT, UH, SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT EVEN WITH PASF ONLINE.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WOULD PROBABLY REDUCE ABOUT, WHAT, FOUR TO 500 A YEAR? YES.
FOUR, 500,000 A YEAR THAT WE WOULD PRODUCE IN COSTS THAT WE PAY FOR THE RESERVE.
WELL, CLEARLY I KNOW THAT ONE POINT THERE SOME KIND OF MANDATE FROM THE STATE.
YES, WE, YEAH, WE HAVE HAD BILL PROVIDE, BUT WITH OUR NEW, WITH OUR WELLS, WE HAVE FOUR WELLS THAT PROVIDE ROUGHLY ABOUT 1.6, 1.7 IN FULL OPERATION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE 1.5 IN WHAT OUR CAPACITY IS IN OUR TANK.
SO WE WERE, WE MEET THAT WE'RE, WHENEVER WE'LL GET BACK, WE'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? WE'RE STILL IN IN COMPLIANCE.
WE'LL STILL BE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO EITHER MANUFACTURE IT FROM, WHILE I SAY MANUFACTURE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL IT OUT OF THE GROUND.
UM, THE BIGGER CONCERN THEN WAS WHAT WAS BASF REALLY GONNA USE? BUT THEY'VE GOTTEN APPARENTLY VERY, VERY, UH, EFFICIENT WITH THEIR WATER USE BEING THAT THE TYPE OF PAY, WE CAN'T EXCEED THAT.
SO JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A 1.5, WE CAN EXCEED THAT AMOUNT.
WE JUST TO PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL, ASSUMING THERE'S WATER THERE.
SO IN TOTAL, YOU'RE REQUESTING, UH, 10%, IT EQUATES TO ABOUT A ALMOST A 15% INCREASE.
UH, THESE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT SKEWED BECAUSE THIS REFLECTS THAT 17.9 REFLECTS THIS IS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME MODEL.
THERE'S, AND I CAN PULL THIS UP, HOLD ON.
ARE YOU PLACING THAT ON BOTH THE WATER AND THE SEWER OR ARE YOU JUST WHAT VOTE? YES, BECAUSE HONESTLY IN ORDER TO MAKE UP THE REVENUE DIFFERENTIAL, WE HAVE
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TO HAVE THE, UH, YOU EITHER HAVE TO RAISE THE PARTNER 30% OR RAISE THEM BOTH.LET ME GET TO, HOW MUCH SHOULD WE RAISE? 'CAUSE I KNOW WE RAISED IT WELL, YOU HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, YOUR SOLID WASTE INCREASE LAST YEAR, SKEWED THE OVERALL INCREASE.
YOU WERE AT 7.5% ON THE BASE RATE LAST YEAR AS WELL.
SO WE'RE JUST CONTINUING THAT SEVEN POINT HALF PERCENT THIS YEAR ON THE WATER SIDE.
BUT YOU INCREASED YOUR SOLID WASTE SIDE FROM $24 TO $35.
SO THAT'S FACTORING THAT IN SKEWS THE ACTUAL TOTAL BILL.
BUT YOUR MARGINAL INCREASE OR YOUR ACTUAL INCREASE ON THE WATER SIDE WAS 7.5% ON THE BASE RATE FOR BOTH WATER AND SEWER.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE A DOLLAR SOMETHING BILL, ROUGHLY A DOLLAR EIGHT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
SOME PEOPLE HAD FUNDING THAT HAD HUGE WATER BILLS AND MINE DIDN'T FLUCTUATE MUCH AT ALL.
IT, AND AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT'S A VARIABLE BY USAGE.
SO IF YOU USE A LOT OF WATER, YOU'RE GONNA PAY A LOT MORE FOR THE WATER THAN YOU USE.
WAS IT THE AVERAGE LAST YEAR GONNA BE LIKE 20 BUCKS ROUGHLY? YEAH.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK HERE, UM, THAT WAS WATER AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS YOUR WATER, SEWER, AND GARBAGE.
RIGHT? THAT WAS WATER, SEWER, AND GARBAGE.
AND SO, BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE WATER, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD USES 4,300 GALLONS.
SO THEIR TRIGGER POINT THAT THIS AVERAGE, THIS IS AN AVERAGE BILL, SO THEY'RE GOING FROM 95 TO ONE 15.
AND BUT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING IS, IS WITH THE, UH, WITH THE RATE INCREASE MODEL, UH, AT 7.5%, WE'RE CONTINUING TO TREAD WATER HERE.
BRINGING THE, BRINGING THE ACTUAL REVENUE THAT COMES TO THE CITY UP.
UH, THE MORE WE'RE ABLE TO OFFSET THIS COST, THE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS IT WILL BE.
AND I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT WE RESTRUCTURED, IF YOU RECALL LAST TIME, WE SPLIT OUT THE MODEL BETWEEN COMMERCIAL HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL INSTITUTIONAL, AND SO THAT THIS NUMBER BACK OVER HERE REFLECTS THE AGGREGATE INCREASE ACROSS ALL OF THE RATE MODELS.
SO, SO THE AVERAGE BILL WOULD GET ABOUT ANOTHER $20 INCREASE THIS YEAR, ROUGHLY.
OH, PER MONTH OR YEAR? PER MONTH.
THAT'S 40 BUCKS INCREASE WITHIN TWO YEARS.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S 7.5.
WELL, I'M JUST, I KNOW THE, THE BASE RATE CHANGED FROM, WHAT, 15 EIGHT TO 17? YEAH.
YOUR BASE RATE COVERS A LOT OF, MAYBE EVEN AT THAT YEAR, WHAT, A DOLLAR, A DOLLAR 20? YEAH.
AND THEN WHATEVER YOU USE OVER THAT.
AND THAT'S HOLDING THE LINE ON SOLID WASTE RATES.
BUT PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA LOOK AT THAT.
I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS STILL STRUCTURED THE WAY IT WAS IN THE PAST WHERE YOU PAID THIS MUCH UP TO THIS MANY GALLONS, CORRECT.
YOU PAY THIS MUCH, BASICALLY, IT'S ONLY GOING CHANGE BY A DOLLAR SOMETHING IF YOU'RE A LOW USER.
IF YOU'RE A LOW USER, YOU STAY ON THE LOW RATE.
IF YOU'RE A MEDIUM USER, YOU GO TO THE MEDIUM RATE.
AND IF YOU'RE A HIGH USER, YOU GO TO THE HIGH RATE.
SO YOUR TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD RIGHT NOW USES ABOUT RIGHT AT 4,300 GALLONS.
SO THE PREMIUM ON THAT FIRST THOUSAND IS 1707, AND THEN IT'S 6 43 PER THOUSAND UP TO 10,000 GALLONS.
10,000 AND ABOVE IS 7 79 20,000 ABOVE YOU PAYING ALMOST $9.
SO IF YOU'RE A HEAVY USER, YOUR BILL'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE ROOF.
THAT SAYS IN THE FIRST THOUSAND, YOU'RE INCREASING IT BY 7.5%.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU'RE INCREASING, YOU'RE INCREASING BY 15%.
IS THAT 15% INCREASE OVER THE SEVEN? NO, IT'S THE 15%.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK HERE, THE WAY THE, THE WAY THE STATE WANTS US TO STRUCTURE OUR BILLING IS BASICALLY CAPACITY CHALLENGE IS WHAT THEY CALL IT NOW.
IT'S A FANCY NAME FOR BEING PUNITIVE TO HEAVY WATER USERS.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK HERE, YOUR BASE RATE IS 15 88, 80 UP TO A THOUSAND.
ONCE YOU GET ABOVE THAT THOUSAND GALLONS, THE CHARGE GOES FROM 1588 FOR THE FIRST THOUSAND, THEN IT'S 5 59 PER THOUSAND GALLONS UP TO 10,000, 6 49 FOR EVERY THOUSAND GALLONS ABOVE 10,000 TO 20,000.
AND THEN 20,000 AND ABOVE IS SEVEN 19.
THIS EXTRAPOLATES, THOSE SURCHARGES INCREASING.
SO OUR HEAVIEST USERS ARE IMPACTED, IMPACTED MORE HEAVILY THAN THE STANDARD HOUSEHOLD BY
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15%, 20 AND 25%.SO AGAIN, IT'S TO TRY AND FORCE FOLKS TO CONSERVE WATER.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT SAW THE HUGE BILLS ARE HUGE USERS OF CORRECT.
WHICH ARE GONNA BE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND
RIGHT? WELL, NO, I'LL TELL YOU, WE'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT USERS, INDIVIDUAL USERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WILL, I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL A CAR NINE TIMES A WEEK.
WHAT'S THE AVERAGE WATER? 5,000 GALLONS? NO, THE, THE AVERAGE USAGE IS 4,340.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STANDARD LOT SIZE IN THE OLDER PART OF TOWN AND THE AVERAGE USAGE, YOU KNOW, PART OF TOWN, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SINGLE OUT ANY PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD
I CAN, I, WHEN I LOOKED BACK AT THE AVERAGE USAGE FROM 2016, WE WERE USING 2,700 GALLONS A MONTH PER HOUSEHOLD ON SINGLE FAMILY CONNECTION.
ON AVERAGE THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE HIGH USERS STILL WITH THE LOW.
SO YOUR VOLUMETRICS IS, I GUESS I HATE I BOTH WISE, BUT TWO ALMOST DOUBLED IN LESS THAN 10 YEARS, OR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
SO I DON'T WATER MY GRASS CEREMONIES.
WELL, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE ARE LIFESTYLE CHOICES THAT PEOPLE MAKE.
BUT I I FOLKS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WATER IS A FINITE RESOURCE.
IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS GONNA BE COMING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE.
UH, WE'RE BLESSED BEING IN THIS REGION THAT WE HAVE A STANDARD SURFACE SUPPLY RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO DESAL, BUT WE ALSO HAVE VERY HEALTHY AQUIFERS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY PEERS IN CENTRAL TEXAS ARE LOOKING AT TAKING PIPELINES ALL THE WAY INTO OKLAHOMA NOW TO TRY AND GET WATER.
SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE NEVADA HAVEN'T, RIGHT.
SO THERE A LOT OF PLACES THEY, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALMOST OUTTA WATER PERIOD.
AND WE DON'T WANNA GET IN THE SITUATION THAT WICHITA FALLS DID, WHERE THEY WERE DOING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PROVIDED NON-POTABLE, REUSED WATER OUT OF THE SEWER PLANT TO BASF WICHITA FALLS.
40% OF THEIR WATER ACTUALLY IS REUSED WATER COMING OUT OF THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR POTABLE.
SO IT'S GOOD FOR THE ASTRONAUTS, IT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT THAT'S NOT A MARKETING MOVE WE WANT TO HAVE TO BE MADE.
SO THE ONLY OPTION IS GET OFF BWAA DRILL DIME MORE WELL, RIGHT NOW.
WELL, UH, A MILLION DOLLARS IS CHEAP FOR A WELL, I KNOW THAT, UH, TALKING TO ONE OF THE MUD PROVIDERS, MDS, THEY WERE TELLING US THAT THEY WERE GETTING QUOTES BACK BETWEEN 2.3 AND 3.7 IN SOUTHERN FORT BEND COUNTY.
SO I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE EVERY BIT OF 2 MILLION TO DRILL A NEW WELL, HERE YOU SEE THAT? YEAH.
WELL, WE DROVE THOSE IN 17, WE HAD TWO WELLS DRUG FOR 500,000.
BUT THAT'S JUST, THAT WAS JUST REVAMPED.
WE GAVE US THE DEAL BECAUSE WE DID TWO, IT WOULD'VE BEEN CLOSER TO 600,000 FOR TWO WELLS.
BUT THE PROBLEM THERE IS ALSO, YOU GOT YOUR DEPTH OF THE, WELL, THE RESURGENT THERE, HAVING TO GO DEEPER WITH WELLS TO GET AWAY FROM THE A.
YOU GOT SICK SQUARE MILES, HOW MANY, HOW MANY WELLS CAN YOU DRILL AND SIX SQUARE MILES THAT DEEP AND THAT BIG RIGHT.
BUT YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH SAY THAT IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU'RE USING A, AN AVERAGE AMOUNT OF WATER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE MUCH OF AN INCREASE.
WELL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IF YOU, HUH? YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE AN INCREASE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A, A SIGNIFICANT, NOT THE DRASTIC NUMBERS THAT WE WERE HEARING ABOUT LAST SUMMER, WHERE FOLKS WERE LIKE, MY WATER BILL WENT FROM $108 TO $365.
WELL, YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL USAGE THERE, AND YOU WERE USING A TON OF WATER.
THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MINE BARELY CHANGED, IF AT ALL.
NOTHING THAT I REALLY NOTICED.
AND EVEN IF I WATERED MY YARD ONCE, I THOUGHT, MAN, THAT'S GONNA, I GONNA GO THROUGH ROOF.
SO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING THOSE HUGE BILLS ARE REALLY USING A LOT OF WATER.
THREE GALLON, THEY GOT LEAK SOMEWHERE.
YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT $10 MORE.
BECAUSE YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR BASE AMOUNT BY ABOUT A DOLLAR OR SOMETHING.
THEN FOR 3,300 MORE GALLONS, YOU'RE ONLY INCREASING BY ABOUT $2 A THOUSAND OR ABOUT DOLLARS OFF A THOUSAND.
SO THAT THREE PLUS THE OTHER, YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT EIGHT TO $10 MORE A MONTH BASED ON THE WAY THAT RATE STRUCTURE IS.
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DOES BILL SHOW US, LIKE WHEN YOU GET THE BILL TO SHOW US HOW MUCH YOU USE? YES.YOU SHOULD BE ABLE, YOUR ELECTRIC BILL, IT'LL SHOW YOU WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE, WHAT IT STARTED AT AND WHAT IT, MY STUFF'S ON AUTO PAYMENT.
I JUST, IF MY BALANCE LOOKS OFF, I'M LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, LEMME GO BACK AND CHECK MY BILLS.
YEAH, NO, EACH BILL, I, IT, IT'LL HAVE YOUR ITEMIZED COST AND THEN IT TELLS YOU YOUR USAGE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH WAS THIS.
AND AT THE END WHEN THE READ WAS TAKEN WAS THIS.
SO ONE THING, AND I'M, I'M GLAD WE YOU MENTIONED THAT OR ASKED THAT QUESTION.
ONE THING THAT IS OMITTED FROM THE CIP IN THIS YEAR'S PLAN THAT WE HAD INCLUDED IN LAST YEAR'S PLAN AND HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK INTO IS THE METER REPLACEMENT AND MOVING AWAY FROM THE A MI SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, GIVEN THE FUND BALANCE AND THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY IN THE BLACK ON THIS FUND, WE'RE GONNA ASK THAT THAT PROJECT BE SHELVED AND DELAYED FOR A YEAR BEFORE WE TAKE THAT PROCESS UP.
OUR NU READING, OUR MANUAL REREAD NUMBERS HAVE COME DOWN.
WITH, THERE WAS AN IN, THERE'S ISSUE WITH THE SINK FILES AND THEY, LANDON AND CORY, THEY GOT THAT RESOLVED.
SO OUR REREADS THAT WE EXPERIENCE EACH MONTH FROM, WENT FROM ABOUT 400 TO ABOUT 2 72 80 A MONTH, WHICH IS, IS A, IS LESS THAN 10% THAT WE HAVE TO REREAD.
UH, SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE THAT, UH, THOSE REREADS HAVE COME DOWN.
AND HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE REREADS COMING BACK WRONG? THAT THE METER, THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG.
THERE'S NOT SO MUCH WRONG WITH THE READS, IT WAS JUST THAT WAS NOT PICKING UP THE RE YEAH.
THE FILES, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD DO WORK CHANGE OUT METERS OR SET NEW METERS.
IT WASN'T PICKING UP THE READING.
SOME CASES IT WAS, IT JUST WASN'T TRANSFERRING IT FROM FLEX TO THE LOGIC.
WE WERE HAVING TO GO OUT AND REREAD THEM OR READ 'EM, PERIOD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON UTILITY RADIO, READ BUTTON RADIO READ? IT WAS, NO, IT WAS NOT RADIO READ
AND WE STILL FACE THE, THE REALITY THAT OUR SYSTEM IS, ITS APPROACHING ITS END OF LIFE ON BATTERY AND TRANSMISSION.
UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME BLEED ISSUE, BUT NOTHING LIKE WE WERE SEEING BEFORE.
UH, SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT WE THINK WE CAN PUT THAT OFF FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
WE ARE REPLACING METERS RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY SAY IT'S A 20 YEAR METER AFTER 10 YEARS, I MEAN 10 YEARS IN ONE MONTH TODAY THE METERS STARTING TO GO OUT AND WE REPLACED THEM LOAD OF METERS.
WELL, I HAVE DO WATER MINE THAT ALL OF MINE IS NO MORE, NO MORE G ON PIPE.
NO MORE GOUT ON PIPE AND NO MORE LEAK UNDER MY TREE.
NO MORE WATERS DOWN UNDER MY TREE.
MOVING ON FROM THERE, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IN TERMS OF ACTUAL LINE ITEM EXPENDITURES.
WE HAVE THE STAFF ALLOCATION, UH, YELLOW OR WHERE CHANGES WERE MADE FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET IS PRELIMINARILY POSTED TO WHAT WE, UH, HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE REMOVED.
WELL, DID I NOT REMOVE IT? I DID REMOVE IT.
UH, JOHN HAD A REQUEST FOR TWO VEHICLES.
I'VE ASKED HIM TO TRY AND MAKE THOSE LIMP THROUGH FOR ANOTHER YEAR, UH, IN ORDER TO HELP THAT ENTERPRISE FUND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND BUILD UP SOME FUND BALANCE.
UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, THE ASK, UH, WOULD BE THE, UH, LIGHT TOWER, THE GENERATORS FOR APRIL PARK, UH, THE GENERATOR FOR LAKE BEND AND THE GENERATOR FOR, UH, DIXIE.
UH, THE REALITY IS, IS THOSE HAVE TO BE DONE AS PART OF OUR RESPONSE TO THE, WHAT WAS THE, THAT BILL NUMBER, WAS IT SB 33? I REMEMBER WHICH THIRD NUMBER IT WAS.
IS IT 33? WILL I THINK IT'S THREE.
OH, SB THREE, WHICH REQUIRES NOW THAT WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE SYSTEM IN THE EVENT OF ANOTHER WINTER STORM, NOT THAT WE EVER GET THOSE, UM,
AND WE'VE ALREADY COORDINATED WITH THE, UH, INSTALLATION OF THOSE.
BUT THE LEAD TIME IS GOING TO PUSH US INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UH, LIKEWISE, THE WORK AT APRIL PARK SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UM, WE DO NEED TO, UH, MAKE SOME CHANGES OUT AT THE, UH, AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
UM, THEN IN THE YELLOW HERE, WE'VE ELIMINATED, WE HAD, UH, ABOUT 400,000 IN SEWER LINE REPLACEMENT.
WE THINK MOST OF THAT IS GONNA BE TAKEN UP THOUGH BY THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, WHICH INCLUDE THE, UH, AFOREMENTIONED BUMPY ROAD LIFT STATION, BRYAN SUBDIVISION, DER SUBDIVISION LEAVING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FOR EMERGENCY PROJECTS, UH, TO GO FORWARD.
SO, AND THEN, UH, UP HERE, 49 70 49 72 WAS THE 1.5 THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED FOR METERS, THE METER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
WE'VE INSTEAD BACK FILLED THAT WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO KEEP PIECEMEALING
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THE METER REPLACEMENTS, UH, ON AN AD HOC BASIS.AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT PROJECT BACK TO YOU PROBABLY NEXT YEAR LOOKING AT DEBT.
UH, THE 2009 NOTE FELL OFF LAST YEAR, SO, UH, WE CAN THROW A LITTLE PARTY ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE STILL HAVE ABOUT $500,000 IN DEBT SERVICE REMAINING ON THE 2013 AND 2017 NOTES.
SO WHAT IS THE 2013 AND 2017 NOTES? 2013 AND 2017 WERE, UH, SEWER LINE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND THEN THE, THAT WAS WHAT LIGHTS? THE LIGHTS AND METERS IN THE, UH, FINE BOAT WITH FUSION AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT.
ONE THOSE PROBABLY THE TRUMP LINE DOWN.
UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A 2009.
WE HAD TO DO THE SLIP LINE OR WHATEVER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2013.
THAT'S THE ONE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOES THIS WAY BACK.
THE SLIP LINE, UH, THE LINE GOING FROM SMITH ALL THE WAY TO PLANTATION.
AND WE, WE ONLY HAVE THAT SECOND PLANTATION TO BUMPY ROAD LIFT STATION THAT NEEDS TO BE REDONE.
IT'S BEEN REPLACED ALL THE WAY FROM THE LIFT STATION BACK TO LA LANE.
WE DID ONE, WE DID ONE FROM BASICALLY MAIN STREET BACK TO
OH, THAT WAS ONE FROM THE, UH, THIS STATION ALL THE WAY TO COMMERCE.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS PUT IN PROBABLY 13, I THINK, DUBBO AT TIME.
THAT WAS ONE OF THESE, I THINK, YEAH, THAT WAS PUT IN BY, I THINK DUBBO AT THAT TIME.
I CAN PULL UP THE INDIVIDUAL DEBT ISSUES.
THAT ONE WHERE SOME OF THE LINE WAS LIKE 18, 20 FOOT DEEP.
ME G SUPPLY THAT, THAT LINE THAT WENT ALL THE WAY BACK BEHIND HIM AND G.
WE DID THAT SECTION THERE TOO.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DEBT WOULD BE PROJECTED TO HAVE ALL THE WAY TO MG.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SKIP AHEAD OR DO YOU WANT ME TO, 'CAUSE I'VE GOT THE DEBT PICTURE FOR US AT THE VERY END.
PUBLIC WORK, SIDEWALK STREETS AND DRAINAGE.
UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, THIS IS THE STANDARD RIGHT NOW.
WE DO HAVE PROVISION OR WE CAN MAKE PROVISION TO SHIFT STAFF IF WE NEED TO.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE CHANGES HERE, UH, AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT MAYBE ELIMINATING SOME OF THE MOTOR VEHICLES, UH, JUST TO TRY AND LIMP THROUGH AND REDUCE THE PRESSURE ON THE, UH, EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
UM, OTHERWISE IT'S FAIRLY WELL IS WHERE IT IS.
SO, AND THAT MOVES US INTO FOUR 13.
UH, MAYOR, DO WE WANNA TAKE ABOUT A TWO MINUTE RECESS? CAN WE TAKE A TWO MINUTE RECESS? SURE.
I WAS LIKE, MAN, I'M ABOUT TO SNITCH YOU OUT, BUDDY.
MY KIDS SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S BECAUSE, IT'S BECAUSE YOU HATE JACKET.
WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I WAS, I WAS OUT ALL LAST WEEK.
I WAS GONNA GRAB LIKE A SWEATSHIRT.
WELL, I KEEP THE SWEATER, EVEN IF I NEED TO KEEP ONE.
USUALLY DURING THE WINTER, I DO ONE IN MY CAR.
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I GOT A, THAT IF I GET COLD.WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS WARM.
I'M LIKE, OH, GET A LITTLE COLD BEDROOM.
I CALLED THE BACK BECAUSE LIKE, I CAN SHUT, I'VE GOT LIKE THE HEAT RESISTANT BLACKOUT CURTAIN THING.
I MEAN, LITERALLY IT'S LIKE BLOWING SNOW.
TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THIS ICE BOX.
I WHAT TIME DID I TEXT YOU LAST NIGHT? 8:00 PM YOU GO TO SLEEP IN HERE.
I GOT THE EMAIL TO PUT DOWN FERTILIZER.
DID YOU NOT? OH, I DIDN'T, I DID NOT LET ME, YOU OH, NO, NO, NO.
I DIDN'T COPY YOU ON MY RESPONSE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA, HE NO, HE TEXTED ME.
YEAH, I, I DIDN'T LOOK AT, HE TEXTED LIKE, I THINK THEY BEEN THERE 24 HOURS.
I'M LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON? OF COURSE, I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN OUTTA THE HOUSE.
WHEN IT RAINS, IT'LL SPREAD IT OUT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PIECE OF GRASS.
WELL, YOU CALLED IT THE MOSQUITO FLOAT AND I SAID, ARE YOU, IT'S, YEAH.
SO, UH, I KNOW LAST YEAR WE HAD A, UH, A DEBATE ABOUT SOLID WASTE.
UH, IT'S A DEBATE THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AGAIN AS WE LOOK GOING FORWARD.
WE RAISED THE RATES SUBSTANTIALLY LAST YEAR, NEARLY $11, UH, THAT BROUGHT THE FUND INTO THE BLACK THIS YEAR, WHICH WAS GREAT.
BUT WE'RE AT THE SAME INFLECTION OR CROSSROADS POINT WE WERE LAST YEAR, WHERE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL NEEDS.
UH, WE'VE GOT TWO TRUCKS AT A MINIMUM THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
UM, THE COMMERCIAL SIDE IS A LITTLE BIT HEALTHIER, BUT THE OLDEST OR THE NEWEST ONE THERE IS FIVE YEARS OR SIX YEARS OLD ACTUALLY ON THE, ON THE SIDE LOAD TRUCKS.
WE HAVE A 2025 MODEL AND 2023 MODEL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SET REALLY WELL WITH THE COMMERCIAL SIDE LOAD TRUCKS.
THE REAR LOAD IS WHERE WE'RE REALLY IN, IN JEOPARDY.
AND SO THE RESIDENTIAL, YES, MA'AM.
SO WE PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE.
UH, WE USED TO DO IT AT A BARGAIN RATE.
FOLKS NOW WOULD TELL YOU THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A BARGAIN RATE, BUT WE'RE AGAIN, FACING THE SAME COMPETITIVE FORCES AND INHERENT CAPITAL PRICING AND INFRASTRUCTURAL ADVANTAGES THAT ARE SHARED THAT WE DON'T SHARE WITH OUR COMPETITION.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S A ROUGH PLACE TO BE.
UM, THIS YEAR'S REQUESTS, UH, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PROVIDING SOLID WASTE IS ABOUT $517,000.
THAT'S FOR THE NEW REAR LOADER, UH, REAR LOADER AND ONE, UH, GRABBER, ONE GRABBER TRUCK OR BRUSH CREW.
AND SO, UH, THERE'S A REASON THERE'S ONLY TWO FOLKS LEFT STANDING THAT DO THEIR OWN GARBAGE SERVICE DOWN HERE.
AND THAT'S OPERATING COSTS VERSUS COST RATIO, UH, REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT SAID, WE CAN CONTINUE SERVICES AS THEY ARE.
WE CAN INVEST IN NEW TRUCKS AND, UH, CONTINUE OPERATING AT THE SAME LEVEL WE'RE AT.
HOW MUCH YOUR TRUCKS COST? THE AT 300 ON THE REAR LOADER? YEAH.
SO, UH, ARE THERE ANY GRANTS OR ANYTHING FOR 'EM? NOT FOR TRUCKS.
I MEAN WE, WE, WE WENT AFTER THE, WHAT WAS THE ONE WE ASKED FOR LAST YEAR? IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE A ELECTRIC OR SOMETHING.
WE TRIED TO GET THE MATTRESS SHREDDER LAST YEAR UNDER THE GRANT.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, SOLID WASTE
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GRANTS ARE KIND OF GOING, IT'S A PROBLEM, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO ADDRESS IT.SO THE, I THINK THE TOTAL POOL OF CASH FOR THE REGION WAS WHAT, $1.1 MILLION IN THAT GRANT FUNDING.
IT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT 900,000.
SO LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ENTIRE HGAC REGION FOR SOLID WASTE GRANTS.
AND OUR ASK WAS HALF OF THAT, HALF OF IT, 500.
BUT YEAH, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF GRANT MONEY OUT THERE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE MODEL IS BASED PRIMARILY THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THE REGION, AND THE NATION ON A PRIVATE SECTOR VENTURE MODEL.
SO THERE'S NOT MUCH SUPPORT FOR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSTON MARKET, IT'S CLUT, LAKE JACKSON, BEL AIR, AND HOUSTON THAT PROVIDE THEIR OWN SERVICES.
EVERYBODY ELSE OUTSOURCES THAT SERVICE.
SO, UM, WE HAVE THE SAME MODELS BEFORE US.
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT AN AUTOMATED TECHNOLOGY TO REDUCE OUR LABOR COST.
UH, WE COULD, AND THAT'S GONNA CREATE CUSTOMER RIPPLE.
UH, WE CAN DO ONE AND TWO WHERE WE ENFORCE OUR MONOPOLY ON ALL COMMERCIAL.
BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE OF THE SUB THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE DUMPSTERS THAT ARE REQUIRED, WE'D HAVE TO INVEST IN NEW, NEW EQUIPMENT.
SO OUR CAPITAL COSTS ARE, ARE, ARE DRIVING THIS SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, OR WE COULD PHASE OUT SERVICE AND GO WITH A PRIVATE PROVIDER.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, UH, IF WE DECIDE TO OUTSOURCE IT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL BUDGET, UH, WE WOULD BASICALLY TRANSITION OUT OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICES.
WE WOULD CONTINUE OUR BRUSH COLLECTION SERVICE, UH, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.
AND THE ESTIMATED COST BENEFIT WOULD BE A NET DIFFERENTIAL TO THE GOOD OF ABOUT $600,000 TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
IF WE DECIDE TO DO AWAY WITH BRUSH COLLECTION COMPLETELY, THAT'S ABOUT ANOTHER $200,000 IN SAVINGS, UH, AND NET RESIDUAL REVENUE TO THE CITY.
THAT'S WHERE THE, WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE VERY FIRST SLIDE IN THE BOTTOM LINE, THAT'S THE DI THE DI DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, UH, DRAW DOWN OF RESERVES DIFFERENTIAL BEING, YOU KNOW, 1.3 VERSUS LET'S SAY ONE 500,000.
SO THAT'S HOW MUCH WE WOULD SAY IF WE OUTSOURCE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
SO THE, SO THE MODEL'S BUILT ON IT, AND YES, WE HAVE HEAVY TRASH PICKUP, OR IS THAT WHAT CALL BRUSH? THEY, WELL, THEY WOULD STILL, SO IT DEPENDS.
THE CONTRACT THAT YOU NEGOTIATE WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDER, LIKE FOR BEST TRASH SERVICE, HEAVY PICKUP IS INCLUDED TWICE A WEEK, EVERY WEEK, NO MATTER WHAT.
THEY JUST ASSUME THAT THAT'S PART OF THEIR, THEIR PROJECT.
UM, WHEN WE MODELED IT OUT, YOU'VE GOT A HIGH OF, I I, I DID AN ANALYSIS FOR ALL THE CITIES IN THE REGION BETWEEN FIVE AND 25,000 BECAUSE THERE'S NOT TOO MANY IN OUR NICHE OF 11,000.
UH, THE AVERAGE BILL OR THE AVERAGE CONTRACT AMOUNT COST FOR PRIVATE SECTOR SERVICES, ABOUT 1.6 ON THE HIGH END.
YOU HAVE 2.3 ON THE LOW END, YOU HAVE, UH, 900,000.
SO IF YOU DRAW THAT NUMBER, THE ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT OUR CONTRACT WOULD RUN US ABOUT $1.6 MILLION A YEAR IN OPERATING COST.
IF WE WERE TO OUTSOURCE IT RIGHT NOW AT $34.
UH, WE COULD BRING THAT IF WE WERE JUST GONNA DO NET NEUTRAL, WHICH WOULD NOT BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT IF WE WERE GONNA DO NET NEUTRAL, YOU COULD LOWER YOUR SOLID WASTE STRAIGHT BY ABOUT $7 AND STILL BE ABLE TO COVER THAT CONTRACT.
SO OUR OPERATING COSTS THIS YEAR, UM, LOOK TO FINISH ABOUT 1.7.
WE'RE ABOUT TO BRING IN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON PR ON PACE TO BRING IN ABOUT 2.2, 2.3 ROUGHLY IN REVENUE.
SO WE HAVE A DELTA THERE OF ABOUT $500,000.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT IS EATEN UP BY CAPITAL COST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A SEPARATE DEDICATED FUND.
THE, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT, SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS MODEL, UH, WE ARE ON PACE, UH, AND THIS NUMBER IS LOW I THINK, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONTRACT RENEWAL BASED ON TIP EDGE OF ABOUT 600,000 PLUS OR MINUS.
WE WOULD UNDER OPTION ONE CUT THAT ESSENTIALLY IN HALF OPERATE FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THERE IS GONNA BE A TRANSITORY OR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD.
IF WE WERE TODAY TO SAY WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS CHANGE, IT'D STILL BE SIX MONTHS BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO AFFECT THAT CHANGE.
SO THIS ANTICIPATES HALF A YEAR'S WORTH OF BASICALLY OPERATIONS IN SOLID WASTE.
UH, AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHICH MODEL YOU WISH TO PURSUE, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN MAKE THAT CHANGE.
AND THESE ARE THE COST DIFFERENTIALS ON THE ACTUAL OPERATING PRICES.
SO WHAT IF WE CONTINUE TO DO THE COMMERCIAL BIT THEN JUST GET OUTSOURCE THE RESIDENTIAL? WELL, OR IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? NO, IT'S POSSIBLE.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, RECALIBRATE OUR COMMERCIAL SERVICES THOUGH.
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CURRENT CUSTOMERS THAT GO WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT TO CHANGE THEIR DUMPSTER SIZE AND THEIR BILLING MODELS, OR WE WOULD HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO HANDLE LARGER FRONT LOAD, NOT SIDE LOAD COMMERCIAL PICKUP.WHAT IF WE WERE TO JUST DO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP FOR COMMERCIAL PICKUP NOW, FOR THE CITY, YOUR COST WOULD BE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IT'S FEASIBLE OR WORTH IT.
YEAH, I I MEAN I HATE IF WE JUST HAD TO, WE JUST BOUGHT TWO NEW TRUCKS TO YEAH.
SO WHAT COULD WE RE REPURPOSE THEM? UM, MARLY? NO, I MEAN, THEY'RE SET UP TO DO THREE AND FOUR YARD DUMPSTERS.
THAT WHAT WE PICK UP WITH THOSE.
SO THERE'S NOT A, I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T WANT 'EM, IT'S NOT LIKE WE COULD CHOP THE TOP OFF THE BLOCK AND MAKE 'EM, UH, DUMP TRUCKS OR, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING.
YEAH, THAT'S, I I DON'T THINK CHIEF WANTS 'EM ON PATROL.
SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE VERY, VERY GOOD PURSUIT OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES.
WELL, THE LEGISLATURE LAST SESSION PROPOSED BILLS 1272 THAT WOULD PREVENT THE CITIES FROM DOING EXCLUSIVE COMMERCIAL.
BUT IF WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL COMMERCIAL AND KICK EVERYBODY OUT, WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THE COMMERCIAL NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS POSSIBLE.
AND IT, IT DIDN'T PASS THIS TIME.
BUT, UH, AND THEN ALSO THEY RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT BILL SAID THAT THEY WERE GONNA REDUCE OUR FRANCHISE FEE TO A CAP OF 2%.
WHERE NOW WE HAVE LIKE FIVE AND 7%.
YOU KNOW, UH, IF WE TAKE ON ALL THE COMMERCIAL AND INVEST IN EQUIPMENT TO DO ALL COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THE LEGISLATURE SAYS, OH, Y'ALL CAN'T DO ALL COMMERCIAL NOW YOU HAVE TO LET THE PRIVATE COMPANIES END.
AND THAT MIGHT BE A BAD INVESTMENT.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
WHATEVER COMMERCIAL WE HAVE NOW, KEEP THAT GOING, BUT JUST TOO RESIDENTIAL, IF THAT WAS EVEN.
SO I HAVE A POSSIBILITY THIS WOULD BE IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS SAVINGS, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL HAD TO BE TURNED OVER TO AN OUTSIDE NER.
THE, THE WAY THIS IS MODELED CURRENTLY, I, I DID NOT MODEL WHERE WE WOULD KEEP COMMERCIAL SERVICE.
HOWEVER, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE, HOLD ON, LEMME PULL THIS UP.
MINE JUST 'CAUSE HE SAID WE HAD 2023 AND A 2025 TRUCK AND I'M LIKE, UGH, PAY FOR THAT.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT OUR TOTAL GENERATION, UM, HOLD ON, LEMME SEE IF I HAVE, THAT'S OUR NET REVENUE LAST OR PROJECTED NET REVENUE THIS YEAR RELATED TO COMMERCIAL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD ACHIEVE THE SAVINGS NECESSARY ALONG THE TAKE OF HALF.
SO GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE WITH OPTION, WHICH OPTION ONE IS? OPTION ONE IS DOING AWAY WITH THE DEDICATED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL SERVICE.
AND THEN OPTION TWO, OPTION TWO IS DOING AWAY WITH RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE BRUSH CREW.
SO THE FIRST COLUMN, THE PINK COLUMN IS IF WE CONTINUE ON AS WE ARE, THE SECOND COLUMN IS MINUS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL SERVICE, BUT KEEPING BRUSH.
AND OPTION TWO IS NUCLEAR, WHERE WE GET DO AWAY WITH EVERYTHING.
AND WITH
ANY OF THOSE SAVINGS GO TOWARDS THE TAXPAYERS OR ARE THEY JUST GONNA STAY AT THE SAME? WELL, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THE FIRST YEAR, THAT TRANSIT TRANSITIONAL YEAR, YOU KEEP RATES THE SAME, UH, TO IN ESSENCE CLOSE THE GAP ON THE DEFICIT OR THE FUND DRAW DOWN THAT WE HAVE.
UH, BUT IN YEAR TWO, I THINK WE WOULD ANALYZE IT AND TRY AND DROP BACK TO A MEAN WHERE WE'RE NOT, WHERE WE'RE LOWERED THE BILL BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY THEY'RE RECEIVING LESS SERVICE.
SO WHAT WOULD THE APPAL RATE BE FOR AN OUTSIDE SOURCE? YEAH, SO AN OUTSIDE SOURCE, WHAT WE CALL FOR, UH, IS A, UH, MEAN COST OF ARE WE GONNA, ARE WE GONNA COLLECT THAT RATE AND PAY THEM OR THE CITIZENS GONNA PAY THEM? WELL, WE'RE GONNA COLLECT THAT RATE AND PAY THEM.
YEAH, THEY PAY THE CITY, THEY PAY THE CITY.
SO WE WOULD PAY THEM AND THEN THEY PAY US BACK A FRANCHISE FEE.
BUT THE, THE CUSTOMERS TO KEEP THE BILLING CONSOLIDATED AND QUITE FRANKLY, ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LEVERAGE OVER THE PROVIDER.
WE WOULD COLLECT THE, THE REVENUE AND WE WOULD DISPERSE THE REVENUE.
IF YOU DO A DIRECT BILL SITUATION, YOU END UP IN A ABSOLUTE QUAGMIRE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
DO YOU HAVE A GUESSTIMATE ON WHAT THE RATES COULD BE? SO IF, IF, IF WE WERE TO HIT THAT $1.6 MILLION PER ANNUM, UH, THAT IF WE DO THAT BASIC $1.6 MILLION COST, THE
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RATE COULD DROP DOWN TO ABOUT 27, 23 PER HOUSEHOLD PER MONTH.SO A $7 DECREASE FROM WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, OR 7 68 DECREASE $7 $7 LESS.
BUT WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE JUST A QUESTION? WOULD THAT BE, BUT THAT'S REAL BREAK EVEN.
YEAH, THAT'S BREAK EVEN REVENUE NEUTRAL, WHICH IS NOT A POSITION I WOULD RECOMMEND US GETTING INTO.
DO WE HAVE TIME TO GET SOME RFP OR SOMETHING TO KNOW FOR SURE HOW MUCH IT WILL COST? OH YEAH.
UH, I I I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT? TO MAKE A BUDGET DECISION? TO MAKE A BUDGET DECISION, UH, BEFORE SEPTEMBER ONE? YEAH, WE COULD TYPICALLY, SO YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE MAKING A DECISION BASED ON REVENUE NUMBERS? YEAH, WELL THAT'S, SO WHAT WE DID IS WE PULLED THE CONTRACT NUMBERS FROM EVERYBODY ELSE'S BUDGETS.
TO SEE WHAT THEY WERE PAYING TO TRY AND AGGREGATE THE COST MAY BE MORE OR LESS.
SO WE HAD THIS SIMILAR DISCUSSION LAST YEAR.
I THOUGHT WE HAD COME UP WITH A PLAN TO KEEP SERVICES AS THEY ARE TO GET THE NEW EQUIPMENT.
SO, AND I'LL LET JOHN SPEAK IN JUST A SECOND, BUT BASICALLY THE, THE IDEA WAS, IS WE WERE GOING TO REANALYZE AFTER THIS YEAR, AFTER WE CONDUCTED AN AUDIT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE EFFICIENT ON WHAT WE WERE CHARGING.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES WE WERE HAVING, QUITE FRANKLY, WAS WE WEREN'T CAPTURING EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD CAPTURE.
WE'VE CLOSED THAT GAP, I BELIEVE, BUT I'LL LET JOHN SPEAK TO THAT.
AS SEE YOU MENTIONED IT, WE WERE AT CROSSROADS LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SANITATION AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, A COUPLE THINGS YOU CHARGED US WITH WAS ONE, WITH THE COMMERCIAL SERVICE WITH REGARD TO DUMPSTERS.
UH, WE DECIDED AT THAT TIME WE WOULD DO A FULL AUDIT ON OUR COMMERCIAL SERVICES BECAUSE WE FELT THERE WERE SOME, UH, DISCREPANCIES THERE.
UH, I WILL SAY THAT THERE WAS AN AUDIT DONE.
IT TOOK ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO, TO LOOK AT OUR, OUR DUMPSTER, OUR COMMERCIAL SERVICE, LOOKING AT WHAT WE WERE CHARGING PEOPLE, WHAT WAS IN CODE AND WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY COLLECTING OUT THERE.
IT TOOK US APPROXIMATELY TWO MONTHS TO DO THAT AUDIT AND THE PROCESS, WE, UH, SET UP A PROCESS OF THE POLICY OF HOW WE'RE GONNA GO MOVE FORWARD.
AND ALL THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN, AT THE START OF THE NEW BUDGET YEAR LAST YEAR.
IT'S STILL IN INTACT TODAY WHERE IT'S KEPT UP CURRENT, WHERE EVERYTHING WITH IS AN INCO.
WE ARE CHARGING PEOPLE, THEY'RE PAYING FOR WHAT THEY, THE SERVICE THEY'RE GETTING.
WE'RE NOT PICKING UP MORE THAN WHAT WE SHOULD BE PICKING UP.
SO THAT PROVED EFFECTIVE THERE.
THE SECOND CHALLENGE THAT WAS MADE WAS WHENEVER DECIDED TO RAISE THE RATES WAS THAT WE WOULD NOT REPLACE EQUIPMENT TO SEE WHERE WE STOOD AT THIS TIME THIS YEAR TO SEE WHERE WE WERE.
THE, THE SANITATION BUDGET OPERATES, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT OPERATES SIMILAR BECAUSE IT'S A REVENUE GENERATING FUND SIMILAR TO WATER AND WASTEWATER.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE FACT THAT, UH, THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT IS, IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.
AND SO WHATEVER WE DO IN SANITATION, IF WE FINISH IN THE RED, THEN THAT COST IS ABSORBED THROUGH THE WHAT, WHAT MONEY IS IN THE GENERAL FUND IF WE END UP IN THE BLACK.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS, GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT AND THE O2 WITH THE EXPENDITURES.
SO THE QUESTION THEN CAME TO, WE WEREN'T GONNA REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT TO SEE WHERE WE WERE AT THIS TIME THIS YEAR, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR REPAIR COSTS ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.
RIGHT NOW, THE REAR LOADERS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A 2018 MODEL.
UH, WE HAVE A 2015 AND A 2009 MODEL.
THE THAT EQUIPMENT IS, I MEAN, JUST, IT'S A, IT IS A CHALLENGE TO KEEP IT ON THE ROAD.
REPAIR COSTS ARE UP, BUT HOWEVER, WITH WHAT WE WERE RECEIVING IN REVENUE, UH, FINISHING OUT LAST YEAR BEFORE WE RAISED THE RATES AND WHAT WE ARE EXPENSES, WE WERE AT A SHORTFALL WHERE WE HAD TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY.
THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT RAISING THE RATES ENABLED US TO, LIKE CJ SAID A MINUTE AGO, BROUGHT US BACK INTO THE BLACK TO WHERE WE WERE NOT PAYING OUT A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO KEEP IT.
WE WERE THAT THE PROFIT OF CLOSE BETWEEN FOUR AND 500,000 NOW AS OPPOSED TO THE OPPOSITE.
NOW WE WERE PROJECTED, ACCORDING TO THIS MODEL RIGHT HERE, WE WERE PROJECTED TO COME IN AROUND $500,000 BETTER.
I WILL SAY ALSO THAT ON THE EXPENSE SIDE OF IT, LAST YEAR WE COMPLETED THE YEAR ON OUR, WHAT WE BUDGETED, UH, EXPENSE WISE, WE, WE JUST ABOUT BROKE.
EVEN RIGHT NOW, WE ARE PROJECTED TO COME IN AT $200,000 LESS AND EXPENSES.
WE, WE, WE WERE, UH, HAD ACTUALLY BUDGETED.
SO WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING TO FINISH THIS YEAR AND EXPENSES AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT COLLECTING, WE'VE GOT A NET OF ABOUT FOUR TO $500,000.
THE ONLY DEAL IS THAT MONEY IS PART OF THE GENERAL FUND.
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SO NOW WE'RE AT THAT CROSSROADS TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE'RE OR NOT WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT OR NOT.TO GO FORWARD, THE OPTION IS EITHER REPLACE THE REAR LOADER OR, YOU KNOW, THE OPTION THERE IS TO LEASE OR RENT.
ONE PROBLEM WITH LEASING THE RENT AND YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT EIGHT TO $10,000 A MONTH TO RENT A GARBAGE TRUCK SECOND ON THE PURCHASE OF A TRUCK.
NOW THIS IS, UM, WHAT WE ARE, WE ARE AT, WE'RE AT RIGHT THERE.
EVEN IF YOU APPROVE THE, THE DECISION TO PURCHASE THE TRUCK, EVEN IF WE ISSUED A PO COME OCTOBER 1ST, IT MAY TAKE UP 12, 15 MONTHS EVEN RECEIVE THE TRUCK.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A WHOLE NEW, UH, BUDGET YEAR, BUT NOT EVEN RECEIVING THAT TRUCK, WHICH WE'RE, WE THEN HAVE TO GO BACK TO USING THE SAME EQUIPMENT WE HAVE WITH THE REPAIR COSTS, WHAT MAY COST UNLESS WE CAN FIND ONE IN SOME OTHER STATE AND BE ABLE TO GO AND PURCHASE IT AND GET IT QUICKER.
THE PROBLEM WITH WHEN THE TRUCK GOES DOWN, WHAT WE WERE FACED WITH IS THAT IT USUALLY GOES DOWN DURING THE ROUTE.
SO, UH, WE'RE LEFT HAVING TO SCRAMBLE TO PULL PEOPLE TOGETHER TO FINISH THE ROUTE FOR THAT DAY AND POSSIBLY HAVE TO RUN THE ROUTE WITH THIS ALTERNATIVE METHOD.
WHICH, WHAT THAT METHOD IS, IS WE PULL THE BRUSH CREW IN, WE PULL THE MOWING CREW IN, WE TAKE A FRONT END LOADER AS OPPOSED TO DRIVING THAT TRUCK.
WE TAKE A FRONT END LOADER WITH ALL THE FLATBEDS OF THE BRUSH CREW, TAKE THE MOWING CREW, BRING THEM IN TO WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY WALKING THE STREETS TO LOAD UP THE FRONT END LOADER TO PUT IT BACK INTO A, A FLATBED, WHICH DOES NOT COMPACT THE TRASH.
SO NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMP YOU'RE TAKING MULTIPLE TRIPS TO THE LANDFILL.
SO THE EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO BE THE, THE BIGGEST KEY TO WHETHER OR NOT WE, UH, CAN CONTINUE OPERATING AS WE ARE.
AND LIKE I SAID, EVEN IF, IF, IF, IF WE DO, UM, DECIDE TO, UH, THE DECISION IS TO KEEP IT AND WE DECIDE TO PURCHASE EQUIPMENT, WE'RE STILL GONNA, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE WE EVEN RECEIVE THAT EQUIPMENT, WHICH WE WILL GONE THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL END UP IN A BLACK AGAIN.
BUT THAT'S JUST ON THE, ON, ON THIS SIDE OF IT.
UH, BUT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE GENERAL FUND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALL, ALL THAT MONEY ROLLS TOGETHER.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN THE BLACK FOUR TO $500,000, IT'S, IT'S, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE JUST GO OUT THERE AND I GUESS BUY THE TRUCKS UNLESS YOU, UM, WE CAN'T JUST USE THAT.
I GUESS IT'S A 500 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS PURCHASE BETWEEN THAT AND THE GRABBER.
UNLESS YOU BUY TWO REAR LOADERS, WHICH WOULD BE CLOSER TO $600,000.
WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT WHAT THE POSSIBLE ESTIMATE OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE PAYING FOR THEIR TRASH SERVICE, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT INCREASE YEAR BY YEAR WAS I CAN MODEL THAT.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW FREEPORT HASS DONE IT FOR WHAT, MAYBE THREE YEARS NOW? THREE, FOUR YEARS? WELL, THEY CHANGED, THEY CHANGED, UH, THEY CHANGED PROVIDERS THREE YEARS AGO.
THEY'VE BEEN PRIVATE FOR A LONG TIME.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT COST RATE INCREASE IS.
THEY, THEY'VE CHANGED SUPPLIERS.
THEY'VE DONE, IS IT A YEARLY INCREASE THAT THESE COMPANIES, TYPICALLY IT'S AN ESCALATOR.
UM, AND IT USUALLY IS TIED TO AN, AN INDEX LIKE CPI OR FUEL COST.
I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN I'VE HAD PRIVATE PROVIDERS, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS LOCK 'EM INTO A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, THE TH THE INITIAL THREE YEARS AT A FLAT RATE AND THEN ALLOWING AN ESCALATION.
UH, BUT THAT WAS, THAT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE I'VE HAD TO NEGOTIATE ONE OF THOSE NOW.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY, YOU'RE GONNA BE, YOU'RE GONNA BE, YOU'RE GONNA BE SELLING AN INCREASE EVERY YEAR.
THAT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHETHER, WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT.
YOU'RE GONNA BE SELLING AN INCREASE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GO UP EVERY YEAR.
WE HAVE THE OPTION TO HOLD ONTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
IF WE DO IT OURSELVES, IF WE, IF WE SEND IT TO SOMEBODY, WE, THAT OPTION'S GONE.
YOU, YOU GO GET A HIGHER BILL EVERY YEAR.
AND ALSO I THINK THAT THE SOLID WASTE PROVIDERS, YOU KNOW, IS COMPETITIVE.
SO THEY TRY TO COME IN LOW, BUT THEN THEY TRY TO MOVE IT UP.
AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA END UP CHANGING PROVIDERS EVERY CONTRACT, EVERY CONTRACT TERM.
'CAUSE ONCE THEY GET IN, THEY KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT.
LET'S SAY THEY HAVE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITIES WANT TO JUST RENEW THAT CONTRACT INSTEAD OF PUTTING OUT AGAIN, AND THEN THE SECOND CONTRACT, THEY COME OUT AT A HIGHER PRICE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SAY, OKAY, GOING IN, WE WE'RE GONNA RENEGOTIATING MAYBE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER HERE IN THE CITY EVERY FIVE YEARS, WHICH CITIZENS DON'T REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING COMPANIES.
WELL, AS LONG AS THEY'RE GETTING, I I THINK AT THE END OF, FOR THE CUSTOMER, IT'S ABOUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE AND THE COST.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE
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THE RIGHT LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT, YOU CAN'T CHANGE SERVICE.HOW READILY AVAILABLE ARE THE RENTAL TRUCKS? WE WE'RE RENTING ONE RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET ONE THROUGH, UH, BIG TRUCKS AND WE HAD TO RENT ONE SECURITY THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE OF, AND WHEN YOU RENT 'EM, WE RENT 'EM ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
SO WE'RE KEEPING IT FOR THE WHOLE MONTH AND WE'RE PAYING, AND I'M SAYING CLOSER TO THE 10, THE RENTAL COST IS AROUND EIGHT, BUT WHEN YOU RETURN IT, IF THERE'S EXPENSES YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT, IF THEY HAVE TO REPLACE TIRES, YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE, YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR THAT.
SO ROUGHLY, YOU LOOKING AT RIGHT AT $10,000, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 120 GRAND A YEAR.
SO IF YOU RENT TWO, THAT'S TWO PARTY, THAT'S TWO FOR A YEAR.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT'D BE WRECK TWO.
IT, YOU KNOW, LEAS FROM RENTAL HOME, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UH, GENERAL MAINTENANCE ON 'EM AND YOU RESPONSIBLE THAT, BUT AS FAR SOMETHING HAPPENS TO IT, YOU REPLACE IT.
IF WE RENT TWO FOR A YEAR, THAT 240,000, WE'RE SAVING 50,000 RIGHT THERE.
AND IT GIVES US ANOTHER YEAR TO SEE IF WE MAKE BLACK OR NOT.
WE'RE, WE'RE PROJECTING TO MAKE BLACK THIS YEAR.
BUT I SAID THAT WOULD BE, UH, RIGHT NOW, I, EVERYTHING POINTS US FINISHING IN THE GLASS.
I SAY IF WE, IF WE GOT IT, IF WE GOT ENOUGH TO RENT TO FOR A YEAR, THAT GIVES US ANOTHER YEAR TO SEE IF WE REMAIN IN THE CORRECT.
GENERAL FUND, THAT'S, THAT'S 500,000, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND SOMEPLACE ELSE ON THE BUDGET.
THEN YOU NOW HAVE TO TAKE OUT SOMEWHERE.
BUT OUR CURRENT ONES ARE STILL BE WORTH.
WE, WE, WE DO, WE'RE KEEPING THOSE ON THE ROAD.
UH, SO WHERE THE SCENARIO WOULD BE RENTING, WE RUN ONLY RENT IT WHEN WE NEED IT.
WE WOULD ONLY RENT IT WHEN WE NEED IT, AS LONG AS WE KEEP THE OTHER ONES ON THE ROAD.
WELL, I THINK THAT, I, I THINK WHAT MAYOR'S ALLUDING TO IS, IS WE HAVE, I MEAN WE'VE GOT ONE THAT DATES TO THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND ONE THAT DATES TO, OH, AND THEY'VE GOT, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DOWNTIME AND FRUSTRATION.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY IS IF IT GOES DOWN, BUT HAVING ONE THAT WE RENT AND KEEPING THE OTHER ONES AFLOAT IS, IS KEY.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU PULL THE BRUSH CREW OFF, YOU PULL THE MOWING CREW OFF, NOW YOU'VE GOT THOSE AREAS THAT YOU ARE IMPACTING, THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH WITH THEIR WORK.
SO HAVING THE, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT THIS RENTAL THROUGH THE MONTH AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S WORKING GREAT.
IT'S LIKE, LOOK AT, IT'S LIKE A BRAND NEW TRUCK.
WELL HERE'S, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE THING THAT I'M ALLUDING TO THOUGH.
I MEAN, UH, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY THAT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHAT WE DO, IT'S GONNA BE OPERATION NORMAL FOR SIX MONTHS.
DEPENDING ON EITHER OPTION WE TAKE, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO OPERATE JUST LIKE WE'RE OPERATING FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS.
FINISH OUT THIS YEAR FOR SURE.
THEN GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR, IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE LIKE A CITIZEN REFERENDUM SAY, DO Y'ALL WANNA SPEND THIS MUCH FOR TRASH WITH SL OR THIS MUCH TO GO WITH PRIVATE? AND THEN, THEN YOU, THEN THE COUNCIL COULD SAY, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, THAT'S WHAT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THAT REFERENDUM IS RIGHT NOW.
LOWER PRICE TRASH, YOU GO FILL CITY HOLLOW UP.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DO Y'ALL WANT TO PAY MORE FOR THE CITY TO KEEP DOING IT OR DO YOU WANT US TO OUTSOURCE IT? AND THEN I KNOW CJ AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS ALSO AND YOU KNOW, TRUE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE TIME A WEEK AND THEN WHEN, IF YOU, WHICHEVER DIRECTION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND IT'S, IF YOU, IF YOU GO TO ONCE A WEEK AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING THE TOTES, WHICH THEY WILL PICK UP, IT'S GONNA TAKE PROBABLY SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE PEOPLE TO ADJUST TO THE FACT THAT, OH, NO, NO.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY THE STANDARD CONTRACT IS TWO TIMES WEDNESDAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S EVERYWHERE ELSE.
YEAH, NO, I MODELED IT ON THE COST ON TWO TIMES PER WEEK.
LET'S HIM IN A WEDNESDAY, SATURDAY PICK.
REPORT IS TWO TIMES A WEEK WITH THE AIRWAY.
SO THAT, THAT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN TWO TIMES A WEEK, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PICKING UP THE DEAL.
THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF IT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE TOW THAT THEY PROVIDE.
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WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE GRAB TRUCK TRUCK, THE GRAB TRUCK FOR THE RESTROOM.WHEN DOES GREENPORT RENEGOTIATE THEIR CONTRACT FOR TRASH PICKUP AGAIN? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CYCLE IS.
WHAT ABOUT THE HEAVY, THE HEAVY TRASH? WELL THAT'S, YOU WRITE THAT INTO THE CONTRACT AND SO TYPICALLY YOU ASK THEM TO ASSUME IT.
UM, I KNOW IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S, YOU ASSUME IT'S EVERY PICKUP.
SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S ONE TIME PER MONTH OR TWO TIMES PER MONTH ON A DEDICATED DAY.
I MEAN, WE DO A, WE HAVE A WEEK WHERE WE DEDICATE EACH ZONE FOR HEAVY TRASH.
I HAVE TO SAY CITIZENS COMPLAIN ABOUT TRASH IS A BIG ISSUE.
WELL, I MEAN, HONESTLY, THEY DON'T LIKE THOSE INDEPENDENT PROVIDERS AT ALL, NO MATTER WHO YOU'RE USING.
NO, THERE'S NEVER, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA GET THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT YOU GET NOW.
YOU'RE NEVER GONNA GET THE SAME LEVEL OF, UH, I MEAN, WE GET MORE COMPLIMENTS ON GARBAGE SERVICE THAN WE DO ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU PRIMARILY SEEN THEM DRAW TRASH IN THE STREET? I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN THEM DROP A PIECE OF TRASH IN THE STREET.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY, UM, THAT'S NOT EVEN WORTHY TO SAY HERE, BUT, UM, I, WE'LL SAY THAT WITH THE, WITH THE CHANGES, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN MADE WITH REGARDS TO MATTRESSES AND THE CHARGES, WE ARE EXPERIENCING A LOT MORE ILLEGAL DUMPING.
UH, THE ILLEGAL DUMPING HAS PICKED UP TREMENDOUSLY.
IF YOU EVER GO BEHIND, PICK A FENCE IS THE FIRST PLACE TO GO.
PEOPLE DROP SECTION SECTIONALS OFF OVER THERE.
WHERE, UH, AND, AND I WILL SAY THAT YOU MENTIONED LIKE HOUSTON, UH, SAW ON THE NEWS HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THEY HAD A BIG NEWS DEAL ON, ON HOUSTON WHERE THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING THAT WE WENT THROUGH A YEAR AGO WITH THE DECISION MAKING ON, ON HAVING TO RAISE THEIR RATES BECAUSE THEY'RE FINDING ALL OF IT IN BACK, THE PARKING LOTS BEHIND SHOPPING CENTERS.
HOW MUCH WAS THE MATTRESS SHREDDER? 85.
OH, THAT'S HOW MUCH HOW WAS NO, THE SHRED, THE SHREDDER WAS CLOSE TO 500,000.
WAS IT SET UP OBJECTING ON THE SET UP UP? YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO, THE ACTUAL UNIT ITSELF IS WHAT, TWO 60? BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE EPA T CQ AND BUILD A FACILITY.
BUT THEN IF WE MANAGE SHRED, WE COULD CHARGE OTHER PEOPLE TO SHRED THEIR BACK.
AND IT'S ONLY FOUR MATTRESSES, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN USE IT FOR? NO, YOU CAN USE IT FOR A LOT OF STUFF.
ANYTHING YOU THROW IN THERE, INCLUDING HUMANS, I IS THE ATTORNEY TELLING EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
NO, YOU WOULD, YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE A MONOPOLY SERVICE THERE.
UM, YEAH, NO, I MEAN, BECAUSE THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER HEARD FROM ACTUALLY FROM PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT WE NEED A NEW TRASH TRUCK.
THAT'S THE ONLY EVER COMPLAINT THAT I'VE HEARD.
NOT THAT WE DON'T DO A BAD JOB OR ANYTHING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT LEAKS.
SOME OF THE TRUCKS, WHEN WE HAVE TO RESORT TO THE DINOSAUR, UH, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT LEAKING OFF THE BACK.
AND I, THEY'RE USED EVERY DAY.
UH, THEY WERE USED EVERY DAY WHEN WE'RE DOING RECYCLE, BUT UH, NOW THAT WE DON'T DO RECYCLE, THEY'RE FOUR DAYS A WEEK.
SO SAVE AND WE HAVE, SAN PARK IS NOT OVERSTAFFED.
WE HAVE TWO DRIVERS IN THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL TO DRIVE EACH TRUCK.
WE HAVE TWO COMMERCIAL DRIVERS THAT DRIVE THE COMMERCIAL, THE SIDE LOAD TRUCKS, AND WE HAVE THE BRUSH CREW.
SO IN ONE OF THOSE GUYS, EITHER OUT SICK VACATION, WE HAVE TO PULL FROM THE BRUSH CREW TO RUN THEIR ROUTES WHILE THEY'RE OUT.
OR IN THE CASE OF THE COMMERCIAL, THEY GET THE DRIVER DOUBLES UP AND RUNS BOTH, BOTH ROUTES.
ON A DAY OR FOR A WEEK, HE'LL RUN BOTH ROUTES, WHICH TAKES ABOUT 15 HOURS A DAY TO, TO SERVICE ALL THE
SO YOU ONLY HAVE LIKE TWO DRUGS.
IT'S NOT OVERSTAFFED IN THAT SENSE.
WE, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL AS NEEDED.
WHEN WE DO THAT, IT DOES PULL FROM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD GREG ORIGINAL OR THE ONE THAT I SENT YESTERDAY COULD BE
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ON THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE RETIRING OR WHATEVER.WE HAVE HAD TWO RETIRE IN THE PAST YEAR.
THE TWO DRIVERS THAT ARE ON, ACTUALLY ON THE COMMERCIAL TRUCK RIGHT NOW ARE UH, I THINK TWO NEW DRIVERS.
ONE OF 'EM HAS BEEN WITH THIS AND ONE WAS JUST HIRED ON TO REPLACE THE OTHER ONE THAT RETIRED OR OR TO LONGEVITY.
AND THEN ON THE RESIDENTIAL, YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE RESIDENTIAL TRUCKS.
THEY'RE UM, THEY ARE AT THE RIGHT HERE.
CROSSROAD TO, UH, RETIREMENT IS, I GOT IT COULD BE, NOTHING'S BEEN SAID ABOUT IT, BUT IT, IT COULD BE.
ARE WE GONNA REFILL THOSE SPOTS IF WE, IF THE ONE THAT RETIRED? UH, THE WHAT IN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE? YES.
I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS.
BUT I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION AS FAR AS PRIVATE, WHAT PRIVATE TAXES GONNA COST BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH MAKING THE DECISION.
THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT IF WE CUT OUT TRASH AND GO TO FILL CITY, HAUL UP, BUY NEW TRUCK AND RENT ONE UNTIL IT COMES IN IS WHAT I LIKE.
WHEN YOU BUY THE TRUCK, YOU HAVE TO, WE CAN'T FINANCE THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET, DEPENDING ON THE INTEREST RATE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BEAT THE SPREAD.
HONESTLY, IT'S USUALLY CHEAPER TO DIRECT SOURCE AND BUY IT OUTRIGHT AS OPPOSED TO IT'S USUALLY, IT'S USUALLY CHEAPER ON THE LONG RUN SIDE.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE CASH FLOW.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO TAX BREAK FOR
I SAID EVEN IF YOU, EVEN IF DECIDE TO PURCHASE ONE, IT YOU CAN'T GET ONE FOR A YEAR.
IT'D PROBABLY TAKE, IT TOOK US 12, 15 MONTHS FROM THE LAST SIDE LOADER WE GOT.
I KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WE BUY IS BIGGER THAN A PICKUP TRUCK.
TAKES SIX MONTHS TO THREE YEARS TO GET WHEN RENT ONE LONG TERM.
THE LAST ONE WE BOUGHT WAS A 25 MODEL, UH, SIDE LOAD TRUCK.
WE ACTUALLY, WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, WE OCTOBER 1ST, WE ISSUED THE PO FOR IT.
15 MONTHS LATER WE RECEIVED IT.
SO WE WERE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE YEAR PLUS.
WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG? I KNOW.
CHASSIS AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
PRODUCTION COST AND TIMELINES JUST INSANE.
THE MANUFACTURE IS, I MEAN, WHEN WE GOT THE FIRE TRUCKS, HOW LONG DID WE WAIT FOR? YEAH, AS FAR AS ONCE THERE, BUT AS FAR AS WITH THE GARBAGE TRUCKS AND STUFF ONTO THERE, AS FAR AS, UNLESS YOU ABLE TO FIND IT OUTTA STATE.
WE WERE, WE WERE FORTUNATE WITH OUR BUCKET TRUCK.
WE ACTUALLY WENT TO FLORIDA AND BOUGHT OUR BUCKET TRUCK BECAUSE THEY HAD A PLACE OVER THERE THAT ACTUALLY HAD 'EM ON THE LOT.
THAT WAS SUBJECT I REMEMBER DURING THAT COVID TIME.
ALL THE CARS WERE KIND OF HARD TO FIND.
ARE WE ABLE TO RENT ONE LONG TERM FOR A BETTER PRICE OR NO? UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
YEAH, WE SEE IF WE PURSE, SEE IF BUDDIES WILL DO A RENT ON
I DO KNOW IMAGINE OT, DO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE DEALT WITH THE GARBAGE TRUCK A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS IT TOOK ME IN THERE FOR THE LAST TRUCK AND EVERYTHING THAT WE RECEIVED OUT, IT WAS A, UH, SIDE LOADER.
IT TOOK IT 18 MONTHS AND EVERYTHING FOR US TO GET IT.
AND Y'ALL GOT IT AT A CHEAPER PRICE THAN WE DID.
I WAS RIGHT AT $500,480,000 SQUARE SIDE LOADER.
AND THAT WAS WITH A, UH, MAC DRIVE AND THEN THE, UH, CHAMPION, UH, BARREL.
AND THEY HAD TO GET THE TRUCK FIRST AND EVERYTHING.
IT TOOK ALL LONG TO GET THE TRUCK AND THEN THEY HAD TO RETROFIT THE, UH, ATTACHMENT ONTO IT.
I, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS, WE'LL, WE, WE CAN BEAT THIS ONE TO DEATH ALL DAY.
I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON THAT END OF IT.
WHAT I WILL DO IS DRAFT AN RFP ON A SHORT, LET SEE IF WE CAN HAVE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU BY THE 30TH ON WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
TWO TIMES HEAVY TRASH PER MONTH.
AND WHEN YOU SAY TWO TIMES PER WEEK, THAT'S TWO TIMES A HOUSEHOLD, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YEAH, BUT LIKE I SAID, MY, MY FEAR WITH, MY BIGGEST FEAR WITH
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THIRD PARTY IS YOU'RE GONNA GET, YOU'RE GONNA GET AN INCREASE OVER YEAR.P THERE AIN'T, THERE AIN'T NO IF BUS BUY, THEY'RE GONNA GO UP EVERY YEAR.
DIESEL GOES UP TO $5 Y THEY GONNA GO UP CONTRACT LUNCH BREAK, AND THEN WE JUST WAIT THROUGH LUNCH.
WE'RE THROUGH WITH, WE'RE THROUGH WITH JOHN, JOHN BIRTHDAY PARTY.
JOHN CAN HEAD TO THE BIRTHDAY PARTY.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING WRITE LUNCH.
I KNOW IT AIN EASY, BUT HEY, I UNDERSTAND UP HERE MAKING THESE DECISION UNDERSTAND, I'M, I'M SURE THE DETAILS YOU DON'T SEE, I THINK THEY GOT A PRETTY HIGH TAX RATE.
WHERE IS IT AT? I THINK I REMEMBER THAT, UH, A FEW YEARS BACK.
THEIR PROBABLY, THEY PROBABLY, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT IT'S A CONTRACT SERVICE FOUR 11.
I'M BECAUSE WELL, OUR HOA BOARD, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED THE, YOU KNOW, PRICES COME DOWN OR WHATEVER.
EVER SINCE WE TOOK OVER THE BOARD OR WHATEVER.
I'M LIKE, I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL THEY'RE DOING ANY BETTER.
LIKE THE FLYERS THAT THEY MAKE FOR THESE EVENTS, TERRY, I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU IT'S TWO.
THERE'S, THEY'RE OUTTA THEIR SO IT'S NOT IN THE MAIN THING.
NO, YOU, YOU WON'T SEE IT IN THAT'S UNDER JULY.
UNDER, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ROLL UP.
THAT BUDGET, THAT BUDGET THERE.
DISNEY PRINCESS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 272,000 THERE TO HAVE ALL THE TIME.
THEY'RE, THAT'S WHY THE OTHER HALF, THEY NEVER HAVE ANYTHING.
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FIVE IS WATER.FOUR 11 IS STREETS AND DRAINAGE.
I WOULD ALLIGATOR ALLIGATOR 4 25.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M LOOKING AT WHAT I GOT.
I MEAN, HERE'S MONEY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, BUT IT'S IN THERE.
AND WE'RE AIN'T GOT TO DO YEAH, THEY'RE KIDS ARE GROWN UP.
WE HAD A, A WINE THING THAT WAS VERY FIRST YEAR WAS DONE.
WE DO ON SIDE, WE DO IT FOR, DO WE GET IT? NO, ISO FOR IS FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
ALL THE PIZZA FANS BOUGHT IT UP.
EUROPEAN HOME, THE IS O RATING HAS THREE.
ACTUALLY, I PROBABLY SHOULD DRINK SOME THIS PACKAGE.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS NOT WHAT HAD HIT LAST TIME OR MAYBE THIS TIME.
LAST TIME WAS IN WHEN? TWO YEARS AGO.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING ON.
YOU WERE WORKING DIFFERENT ON IT.
HE'S WORKING ON, HE WAS WORKING ON IT THEN.
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO LOW BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO CATCH IT UP.
I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN A PDF AND THEN I'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
I'M SAYING WAS JUST, AND I WAS MAKING CHANGES RIGHT UP UNTIL EIGHT O'CLOCK THIS MORNING.
SO LAST TIME HEARD TIME IS NOT SO MUCH THIS HERE US TO, I MEAN, I MEAN NOT TODAY, BUT I CAN SIT DOWN WITH YOU ONE DAY AND GO OVER SHOW.
YEAH, NO, I KNOW WE ALL NEED TO DO BETTER, BUT DO WE HAVE TO START WITH GETTING HIGH? WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
TJ, YOU NEED ME FOR ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR.
I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW SATURDAY USUALLY ON THOSE DAYS.
I'M WILLING TO GO AS FAST AS Y'ALL ARE ON MINE.
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HE UP IN, WE HAD TO GET A HOTEL, THEOH, THERE WAS ONE COLOR THEY DIDN'T HAVE.
IT WAS LIKE OUT STOCK OR SOMETHING.
I TELL YOU, I GOT ALL THE TAN ONES.
I HAD A GOOD MEETING YESTERDAY.
I WONDER IF THE GATORS BEHIND YOUR HOUSE, THE ALLIGATOR CRAWL ACROSS ALL SO SCARY.
IF THERE'S A LAKE, THERE'S AN ALLIGATOR IN IT OR HAS BEEN IN IT, OR WILL BE IN IT.
CAN I, ARE YOU ABLE TO SHOOT AN ALLIGATOR IN THE RIGHT? YES.
THERE'S TAGS, BUT IT'S VERY RESTRICTED.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON YOUR PROPERTY? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON YOUR PROPERTY? YEAH.
SO UNLESS YOU GOT AN ARM MISSING, UNLESS YOU GOT AN ARM MISSILE, WHEN THE GAME WARDEN SHOWS UP, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN TROUBLE.
THERE HAS TO BE ACTIVE, LIKE AN ACTIVE REAL THREAT.
UM, UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW HALF A DOG OR SOMETHING LIKE RIGHT.
THERE NEEDS TO HAVE BEEN, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET AWAY WITHOUT SCARED FROM LIFE.
NO, THEY MOVE ON PRETTY QUICKLY THOUGH, BECAUSE WE HAD ONE THAT DID COME UP THAT WAS VERY SOCIAL AND WANTED TO GO UP TO PEOPLE'S, LIKE GARAGE DOORS AND BACK DOORS.
YOU'RE EXPECTED TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
NOT, YEAH, DO NOT, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, WE DON'T SEE THAT MUCH.
BUT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED NOTICING PEOPLE WERE CATCHING 'EM ON THEIR RAIN CAMERAS AND STUFF, AND THEN WE STARTED SEEING THEM IN THE LAKE.
WE HAD IT IN OUR, THEY WERE COMING AROUND THE NEIGHBOR WHILE WE MADE THE MISTAKE OF PAYING SOMEBODY TO COME AND GET IT AFTER WE SAW THAT BILL, WE'RE LIKE, OH, WE AIN'T NEVER BEEN.
BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN ENOUGH THAT ARE LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE.
THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH WATER AROUND HERE, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE NEVER GONNA STICK AROUND ONE PLACE.
AND DO THEY ATTACK YOU? NOT REALLY.
IF THEY'VE BEEN FED A LOT IN THEIR CONDITION TO, DO YOU GET THAT PICTURE? THESE CROCODILE MOVIES? I DUNNO.
I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST, I'M MORE SCARED OF A SNAKE THAT'S 12 INCHES LONG THAN A 10 FOOT LONG ALLIGATOR.
I MEAN, THEY WILL EAT YOUR SMALL DOG.
WHAT'S THAT? AN ALLIGATOR? YEAH.
YOU LIKE FEED YOUR DOG TO 'EM OR PUT 'EM ON A BOBBER OUT THERE.
AND IT SIT IN THE WATER FAR OFF.
WE DON'T, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THE GIVE ME WHEN THEY'RE ASKING.
WELL, THEY NEED TO DO THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SHORE.
I DON'T THINK THEY, UH, PUT A SIGN UP.
MAYBE Y'ALL SHOULD PUT A SIGN UP, NIKKI.
ONCE YOU HAVE ALDO, YOU GOT A SIGN FOR HAVE ALDO UH, PUT A SIGN FOR A TRAIL TRAIL HEAD.
YOU'RE LIKE, WHY WE NEED EVEN SIGN FOR THAT.
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OKAY.MY FAVORITE PART OF THE LAKE IS NOT WHERE LIKE THE BULKHEAD AND ALL BOAT, BOAT HOUSE.
I LIKE THE ONE THAT'S OUT THERE.
YOU KEEP GOING STRAIGHT BACK FROM WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
BE LITTLE SECTION BENCHES, GRASS, MOST WATER.
ARE THEY FAST? KIND DOES, BUT ALL YOU KEEP SAYING MAYBE AND KIND.
I MEAN THOSE ARE ALL RELATIVE THINGS.
MAKE CAN MOVE FAIRLY QUICK, BUT THEY CAN NOT FOR VERY FAR AND NOT BE OUT RUN.
THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COURT.
I WOULD NOT BE ANY CLOSER TO ONE.
PROBABLY NOT EVEN HEAR THAT DOOR BACK THERE.
I PROBABLY DON'T GET THAT CLOSE
THEY CAN DO A LITTLE SPRINT TEA.
IF I GREW UP HAVING THE COUNTRY, THEY DON'T BOTHER ME.
THE SNAKE CRAWLER ON THE SIDEWALK IS GONNA MAKE ME RUN.
SCREAM LIKE A GIRL MORE THAN AN ALLIGATOR.
WALKING NEXT TO ME HAD TRY TO GET MY FISH OFF TOO.
WE DO HAVE SNAKES COME OUT OF THE LAKE AND STUFF.
MOST OF 'EM ARE JUST, UH, WATER SNAKES.
BUT AREN'T EVERYBODY PLANNING AGAINST A WATER MO AND YOU'RE LIKE, NO, CAN I SHOOT A SNAKE OR ARE THEY GONNA, YOU FIRE A GUN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYBODY IS GONNA BLOW NINE ONE ON OUT.
I MEAN I, I'M ALL FOR, MOST EVERYTHING RUNS FROM YOU.
SO I HAVEN'T HAD, I HAD A SNAKE.
AND ACTUALLY IF YOU'LL TAKE MOTHBALLS AND CRUSH 'EM UP AND THEN SPREAD 'EM INTO YOUR GARDEN, YOUR FLOWER BEDS, THAT'LL KEEP 'EM OUT.
TYPICALLY, I ABOUT SNAKES HANG OUT IN THE KNEE, HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MICE AND WRAPS STUFF.
BECAUSE THEY CLEANED MY YARD RIGHT UP AND LEFT.
AIN'T NOTHING WITH LIKE FIBER I USED TO DO.
YOU CAN GET LITTLE CLAY SHOTS NOW FOR YOUR SLINGSHOT THAT ARE BAD.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I USED ON THOSE SQUIRRELS AT THESE EGG HUNT.
I WANTED TO KEEP SQUIRREL STARTED LAST YEAR.
AS SOON AS WE PUT EGGS OUT, THEY GRABBED THE EGGS AND RUN UP THE TREES AND OPENED THEM AND BEAT 'EM.
SO LAST YEAR WE WERE THROWING STICKS AND STUFF.
WELL, I WANTED HIM TO USE A RIFLE.
HE IS LIKE, I'M JUST GONNA USE A SCREENSHOT WITH CLAY.
AND I, SO I GOT MY SLINGSHOT AND THEN I FOUND, SAID I DIDN'T WANNA HAVE A BUNCH OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, STEEL BALLS AND BALL BEARINGS ALL OVER THE PARK.
JUST I THOUGHT YOU WERE KILLING SQUIRREL WHEN I GOT LITTLE, LITTLE.
WHAT WOULD IN THE LITTLE BIODEGRADABLE CLAY, CLAY SHOT FROM MY SLINGSHOT.
HAVE A BUNCH OF SQUIRRELS WITH AN IPAD.
NO, WE DID IT BEFORE THE KIDS GOT OUT THERE.
THEY'RE ON AN INSULIN PUMP WITH AN PATCH.
YEAH, BECAUSE THEY WERE STEALING THEM ALL.
I MEAN, THEY'RE VI NOT VICIOUS, BUT THEY'RE, UH, NO, I MEAN WE ENTERPRISING, UH, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE OR WOUND UP GETTING AROUND TO THEM AND THEY WERE SUPER INTERESTED IN ONE VIDEOS AND THEY'RE CALLING IT A MICRO EVOLUTIONARY ADAPTION AND
THIS IS NOT LIKE LEARN, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T LIKE INGRAINED BEHAVIOR'S.
THEY FIGURED IT OUT AND THEY'RE TEACHING IT TO THE, TO THE YOUNG AND NEVER REALLY, REALLY INTRIGUED BY IT.
WE HAVE DUCKS AND TUR CELL THAT HAVE YOU EVER HAD TURBO? SO GOOD BECAUSE I SO GOOD THAT BACK.
I SENT THE TURTLE OFF AT DIXIE DRIVE AND TOOK HIM BACK TO OUR LAKE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO PUT HIM.
I MEAN HE WAS MARCHING LIKE HE WAS
I STOPPED AND GRABBED HIM A LITTLE SHERRY ON TOP AND THEN I DIDN'T NOWHERE WHERE TO TAKE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS COMING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF DISEASES IT HAS.
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I MIGHT, UGH, IF IT'S IN THE WILD, IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY SAFE.HEY, GUESS WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU GOT SOME METH SITTING.
OTHER THAN THAT I WOULDN'T PUT, YEAH, SHE, THEM WILD BOAR.
WHO SAID WILD BOAR FACE? THEY MUST BE, I NEED THEIR SECRET 70.
THAT'S WHEN I WAS LIKE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF DISEASE OR WHATEVER THESE ANIMAL HAVE LIKE KIND PROCESS.
SO I KNOW THAT I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE MY GRANDMA COOKED MY CUT TURTLE TOO.
JUST LIKE A REDER SLIDER TURTLE.
JUST LIKE A RUN OF THE MILL TURTLE DIDN'T HAVE LIKE THE RED, THE RED ON ITS NEXUS PROBABLY.
THERE'S A BIG, PRETTY SOFT, I SEE ALL KINDS OF SNAPPER.
AND HE HAD A SNAPPING TURTLE COME UP TO OUR FRONT DOOR AND HAVE PORCH PARK.
ABOUT A MONTH AGO HE WAS WALKING OUT THE SIDEWALK.
JUST THIS LAST WEEK, MAYBE THE WEEK BEFORE.
THE FIRST OFF SHELF I'VE SEEN.
THEY'RE NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, AT FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS A PIECE OF GARBAGE.
I HAVEN'T GONE OVER THERE TO FISH YET.
I HAVEN COUPLE TIMES FRIENDS, THEIR KIDS FISH OVER THERE LOT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY HERE.
ABOUT 30 MINUTES BE WE'RE GONNA NEED A TO DISPENSER IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES.
I'M LIKE, WHY DID WE HAVE THAT? THERE'S SOME PEOPLE'S YARDS.
I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY THEY FENCE.
I SAID I A LITTLE ON THAT FENCE, RIGHT? YES.
THERE'S A LOT OF BIG, AGAIN, DO ANYTHING FROM MY LORD AND SAVIOR.
DO THAT ONE IN THE SAME NOW
GOOD ANSWER MS. MAD YOU, I MEAN WELL MOST OF THE TIME IT BE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT GO AND THEY MAKE THE CHANGE AND THEN THE HOA CATCH THEM.
THAT'S, AND THEN THEY GET IN TROUBLE AND THEN THEY GET MAD AT HOAI HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITHOUT PERMISSION FIRST.
WHERE'S WILL AT TODAY? THE, HIS FRONT YARD? HOPEFULLY NOT AT WOOD SHORE.
WE NEED TO, WE PUT 'EM IN HOUSE FOR PUT OUR FERTILIZER DOWN.
OH, WAS THAT A PROBLEM YESTERDAY? YES.
NO, HE ONLY GOES OUT DURING THE WEEK.
PUT HE'S GONE THERE FOR I KNOW, SEVEN HOURS ON TOP OF MY HOUSE.
WHEN COMES TO PREPARATION? I DUNNO.
ANY LIKE RESTRICTIONS, LIKE WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT.
I MEAN, I GUESS OFFENSIVE ACTUALLY.
IF IT'S POLITICAL SPEECH, YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO.
HUH? IF IT'S POLITICAL SPEECH, YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO.
OH REALLY? LIKE JACKSON HAD THAT FIGHT JUST A YEAR OR TWO AGO WITH, I REMEMBER THAT FUS IN THE YARD AND YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT.
WHAT DID THEIR CITY COUNCIL EVER DO ABOUT THAT? UH, THEY REFERRED IT BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THAT WAS THERE.
THAT, THAT WAS THE NIGHT THAT I, DOUG KANAKA AND I WERE THERE FOR THREE HOURS LISTENING TO THAT IN THE CHICKEN
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DEBATE BEFORE WE GOT TO GO BLESS.THEY WANT CHICKEN CITY ORDINANCE SAYS YOU CAN HAVE CHICKENS.
HUH? CITY ORDINANCE SAYS YOU CAN HAVE CHICKENS.
THERE WAS, YEAH, THERE WAS SOMEBODY I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL THERE OR NOT, BUT THEY WERE LIKE, I NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MY, MY PET PIG.
IT WAS LIKE ONE OF THOSE TINY LITTLE POTBELLY PIGS.
I DON'T, NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT WHEN I MOVED HERE THAT WE COULDN'T HAVE THE, AND WE WERE LIKE, DON'T DON'T MENTION THAT AGAIN.
IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM, YOU'RE RIGHT.
PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE KEEP 'EM AS PETS.
YOU JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT EATING PETS.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT NEEDS TO HAVE A PET PIG, IT'S PROBABLY ERIC.
WHY WOULD I NEED A WELL, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA EAT IT, IT'S BETTER THAN DOG A CAT MAN.
GO MAYBE GET YOU A BIG AQUARIUM WITH SOME, LIKE SOME REDFISH CATFISH IN THERE.
THAT THERE ARE FISH IN THE LAKE AND YOU'RE LAKE, BUT YOU CAN'T KEEP 'EM RUNNING.
WHO'S GONNA KNOW? I DON'T NICOLE THERE.
TAKE A PICTURE AND SAY, RIGHT.
YOU GOTTA BE ON VIDEO OUT THERE.
THIS GUY TOOK THE FISH AND INSIDE OUT I USED TO GET BITE OUT IT.
THAT OX BOAT BACK THERE SHOULD BE, I USED TO CATCH A LOT OF BASS BACK THERE BEFORE THERE WAS ANYTHING THERE WHEN IT WAS JUST THE LAKES AND THE PASTURE CATFISH BITE.
NOW THE ONE LAKE ONE THAT'S THAT THE, NOT THE ONE THAT HAS THE BOATHOUSE, BUT THE OTHER LAKE THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF OUT THERE BY ITSELF.
THAT KNIFE, YOU COULDN'T EVEN, YOU CAN'T EVEN, WHERE IS THAT? IT'S, IT'S BRUSHED OVER YOU.
YOU DON'T REALIZE IT'S BACK THERE.
SO, BUT IF YOU LOOK DOWN, I'M NOT THROUGH THE FENCE FISH, BUT EVERYBODY'S LET THE BRUSH GROW UP AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
SO IF YOU WERE TO GO DOWN, WHAT IS THAT STREET? IF YOU COME THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THE ROUNDABOUT GO STRAIGHT.
IS THAT BEN MARKER? I CAN'T REMEMBER.
BUT IF YOU GO TURN LEFT, YOU JUST KEEP GOING STRAIGHT.
THERE'S A CUL-DE-SAC, THERE'S ANOTHER CUL-DE-SAC HERE.
AND THEN IT GOES BACK INTO YOUR AREA BACK THERE.
IF YOU GO THAT IT'S ALL OVERGROWN AND NOBODY CAN EVEN SEE THE LAKE.
BUT THERE'S A LITTLE LAKE BACK THERE.
I ASSUME THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO BE THEIR HOUSE, TO BE THOSE PEOPLE WHERE THEIR HOUSE TO BE BUILT THERE.
BUT OH, THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S ALLERGIC TO, UH, TAKING CARE OF ANY KIND OF, UH, FAGE.
THEY WANT THE OA TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE.
SO I USED TO PAY FOR A LAKE MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO COME OUT AND SPRAY AND CLEAN WEEDS EVERY YEAR.
THIS IS JUST TREE ON HOA PROPERTY IS HANGING OVER MY FENCE 25 FEET THERE.
ONCE THEY CROSSES THE PROPERTY LINE, IT'S YOUR PROPERTY.
WE FINALLY, WE FINALLY HAD TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PEOPLE WERE LIKE, HEY, I HAVE POISON IVY COVERING MY ENTIRE BACK FENCE NOW.
WHAT'S YOUR FENCE? CLEAN YOUR FENCE.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT MY FENCE, BUT I WANT YOU TO CLEAN IT.
ME AFTER BARREL, THE TREES THAT ARE ON THE, ON THE HOAS PROPERTY.
I WAS LIKE, I'M GONNA START CUTTING THESE DOWN AND JUST PRETEND THEY BROKE SO I COULD GET 'EM OFF MY PROPERTY.
ONCE, ONCE IT COMES ACROSS YOUR LINE, IT'S YOURS TO DEAL WITH.
BUT ON THIS WAY I CAN CUT 'EM AND I CAN JUST THROW 'EM BACK WALL.
AND THEY HAD TO CARRY 'EM OFF.
WELL, MOST OF OVER EVERYBODY GOOD? YEP.
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LIFE.UH, AS I SAID, WILL, UH, HE'S GOT A BIRTHDAY TO CELEBRATE TOO.
SO, UH, AND I DID WANT TO TAKE A SECOND, 'CAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY ANGEL'S BIRTHDAY.
SO OUR SON'S OUR HER SON'S, SORRY.
AND COREY'S THIS NEXT WEEKEND AS WELL.
SO WE WANNA WISH HIM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY, UH, ON A QUALITY OF LIFE PARKS AND RECREATION.
THE MAJOR CHANGES HERE OF WHAT WAS PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARILY PRESENTED IS A REDUCTION IN THE, IN THE BUILDING OF GROUNDS.
UH, LAST YEAR WE DID, WE WERE PRETTY AGGRESSIVE.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE, UH, GET THE PARK EQUIPMENT UPGRADED AT THREE PARTS, FOUR PARTS, THREE PARTS.
WE'VE DONE FOUR PLAYGROUNDS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
OUR, OUR OLDEST PLAYGROUND NOW IS AT FOOD MUNICIPAL PARK AND IT WAS INSTALLED IN I BELIEVE, 17.
SO EVERY, EVERY PLAYGROUND NOW IN THE CITY IS LESS THAN 10 YEARS OLD.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT SUPPORT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
I THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THAT.
WE, YOU KNOW, AFTER ALL THAT WITH, WE HAD WITH THE PARKS AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
I TOLD TJ THE OTHER DAY, I THINK IT WAS LAST MONTH, JUNE 10TH, JUNE 11TH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WAS TWO YEARS SINCE WE HAD A VERY FUN TOWN HALL MEETING MM-HMM
UM, AND THINGS HAVE COME A LONG WAY, SO I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND THE, WHAT Y'ALL ALLOWED US TO DO.
NO, I MEAN, SOMETIMES TOUGH CONVERSATION.
SO I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT FROM IT.
I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL'S WORKING ON THAT.
UH, SO WE HAVE REDUCED THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE AND THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE ASK, UH, VERSUS, UH, WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PRELIMINARY.
THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO MAKE SOME MINOR UPGRADES AT A COUPLE OF PLACES.
BUT IT WOULD ALSO, MOST IMPORTANTLY, UH, FILL IN THE POOL, UH, WHICH NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
WE WERE, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE TRAGEDY, UH, EARLIER WAS A ONE-OFF.
BUT WE HAVE AN ONGOING RISK AT THAT SITE AS LONG AS IT'S EMPTY, UH, FOR VANDALISM, UH, AND, AND POTENTIAL INJURY.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE POOL FROM THERE WE CAN REVISIT, BUT WE NEED TO GET IT FILLED PRETTY QUICKLY.
JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW TOO, EVERY TIME WE GET A HEAVY RAIN AND BIG RAIN, WE SPEND A COUPLE DAYS, WE PUMP THE WATER OUT TRYING TO NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH MOSQUITOES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH IT.
REALIZE WE'VE HAD TWO, TWO LARGE INSTANCES OF VANDALISM OVER THE LAST SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE CUT THE FENCE, BROKEN WINDOWS, GOTTEN IN THERE, FILLING IT IN'S.
NOT GONNA HELP THAT, BUT IT IS GONNA BE A BIT REDUCE A BIG CHUNK OF LIABILITY FOR SOMEBODY THAT DOES HAPPEN TO GET IN THERE AND STEP OFF.
IF THEY STEP OFF THE EDGE INTO A 11 FOOT DEEP EMPTY HOLE AND YOU'RE FILLING IT IN WITH DIRT.
I WANTED TO DO PACKING PEANUTS, BUT HE SAID THAT WAS NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
SO COW AND DIRT, YOU DO DO ALL THAT DIRT.
WE'LL CALL IT UP WITH THE, WE TALKED ABOUT WOOD.
SO, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT REMEMBERING THE NUMBER WHEN WE DID THE MATH.
BUT THAT'S OUR, IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 250, 280 LOADS IT A 350,000 GALLON HOLE.
ACTUALLY MR. DUNCAN HAD A GOOD IDEA.
WE COULD FILL IT WITH MATTRESSES AND THEN COVER THOSE WITH DIRT AND REDUCE, HEY, REDUCE OUR, REDUCE OUR DIRT EXPOSURE.
PUT THE MATTRESSES IN THERE WHEN THEY FALL AND HAVE THOSE ON TOP.
OR WE COULD HAVE A BOUNCY PARKING.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MORE LIABILITY RISK.
I CAN HEAR COREY'S BACK IN THE COREY'S COREY'S WHEEL SPINNING RIGHT NOW.
WHAT THE INSURANCE WOULD RUN US ON THAT, UH, LIBRARY BASICALLY, UH, FAIRLY STATIC.
UM, AND THEN HOT CVB, UH, WE HAVE TRENDED A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT WE PROJECTED IN TERMS OF REVENUE, BUT WE'RE STILL NET POSITIVE FOR THE YEAR.
UM, IT WAS NICE TO SEE THE HOTELS START FILLING UP IN THE LAST MONTH.
UM, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE PARKING LOTS, UH, THEY'RE MORE FULL THAN THEY'VE BEEN IN QUITE A WHILE.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR, BREAKDOWN OF REVENUES, UH, WHEN A CREDIT COREY AND CHRIS FOR GOING AFTER OUR DELINQUENCIES, THEY REALLY CUT DOWN ON THOSE SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, AND WE'VE, UH, HIS, THIS MR. DOUBLETREE, HE'S CAUGHT UP NOW.
IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURES, UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE REFILLING THAT ONE POSITION THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, BUT WE'RE HOLDING OFF ON THAT UNTIL THINGS GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, FLESHED OUT IN TERMS OF THE REST OF THE BUDGET.
UH, BUT WITH THE TOTAL SPEND, UH, WITH THE $50,000 TRANSFER TO, UH, GTMF OF 2 68 ANTICIPATED FOR NEXT YEAR, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE EXPENDITURES? YES, SIR.
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ON THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS.WE'RE ACTUALLY CAPPED AT WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO EXPEND.
SO IT'S BASED ON OUR REVENUE AND SPECIAL PROJECTS ARE OH, THESE ITEMS HERE BELOW.
SO THE CALENDAR, ADVERTISING PROMOTION TO GIVEAWAY COMMUNITY ARTS.
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT PUBLICATION THAT WE, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT TWICE OR SOMETHING.
WE WERE GONNA DO IT TWICE AND THEY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO
AND THEN WE DECIDED IT PROBABLY WASN'T, WEREN'T THE I PULL, SO YOU WANNA MENTIONED CHRISTMAS IN THE PARK MOVING OH, YEAH.
CHRISTMAS IN THE PARK WAS MOVED FROM, UH, HOT CVV TO, INTO PARKS AS A REGULAR EVENT.
UH, 'CAUSE IT WASN'T DEEMED TO PUT HEADS IN BEDS.
SO, AND THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE A ONE DAY EVENT.
ANY OTHER? NO, I MEAN THAT FALLS HERE.
LEMME GO BACK UP AND SHOW YOU WHERE THAT FALLS.
WHERE DID THAT FALL ON THERE? 42 20.
SO YEAH, THAT CHRISTMAS IN THE APARTMENT TO 42 20.
IT'S THE FINAL ITEM ITEM THERE.
AND THEN ONTO THE GTMF, UH, THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE.
DID WE, I THOUGHT WE CORRECTED THAT.
THE REVENUE NEEDS TO BE INCREASED.
SO BASICALLY HOLDING, HOLDING STEADY WHERE WE ANTICIPATE, UH, KEEPING IT ABOUT THE SAME.
WE DID SLIGHTLY INCREASE THE ENTERTAINMENT BUDGET.
UH, BUT THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING WHEN WE CAN GET FOLKS TO ENTERTAINMENT HAS GOTTEN EXPENSIVE.
HOW, UH, HOW, HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE WITH OUR ENTERTAINMENT PERSON? THE PEOPLE THAT BOOK OUR STUFF? I REMEMBER WE JUST DID THEIR
I THINK THIS IS YEAR TWO OF EITHER A THREE OR FIVE YEAR BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO BACK OUT AND BID IT OUT AGAIN.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE SPENDING HOW MUCH ON IT AND GETTING HOW MUCH BACK? SO WE'RE, UH, THE TOTAL ENTERTAINMENT DISTRIBUTION BUDGET IS $200,000.
YOU MEAN OVERALL? NO, LIKE OVERALL.
SO, AND I DON'T WANT TO LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY THIS.
THESE NUMBERS ARE, ARE KIND OF WEIRD.
SO WHEN, WHEN I DO THE END OF YEAR, THAT'S LIKE SIX MONTHS WORK OFF.
UM, BUT I CAN SAY OVER THE LAST, I THINK FOUR, FIVE YEARS WE'VE BEEN BROKE EVEN OR BETTER EVERY YEAR.
SO THERE WAS, WE'RE, WE'RE HONESTLY TRYING, COREY AND I TALK A LOT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE, THIS GOT THROWN OFF.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO WAY BACK AND LOOK AT THE WAY THINGS USED TO HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THE ACCOUNTING GOT A LITTLE BIT SCREWED UP BECAUSE THAT THE, I THOUGHT WE WERE 164,000.
WE, WE BROUGHT IT UP TO CURRENT AND THAT'S, WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED THIS YEAR AFTER THE AUDIT LAST YEAR.
WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED THIS YEAR WITH A, WITH A ZERO ZERO BALANCE.
SO SOMETHING, SOMETHING HAS BEEN OUTTA WHACK IN THE SPREADSHEETS.
AND HONESTLY, THE, THE INSURANCE, THE WEATHER INSURANCE PAYMENTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE BEEN WHAT PROPELS US UP TO YEP.
SO THE, SO WILL THOSE NUMBERS GET FIXED? YES.
NEXT TIME WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET? YES.
AND I MEAN, THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS THAT ROUTINELY WE, WE FINISH WELL UNDER, WELL UNDER BUDGET ON EXPENDITURES AND WELL OVER BUDGET ON REVENUE.
SO THE, THE, THE PAPER BUDGET IS THERE AS A GUIDE, BUT ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, WE ROUTINELY ALMOST EVERY YEAR DO BETTER THAN CLOSE THE GAP.
IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS BAD ON PAPER.
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WE, WE BEAT THOSE EVERY YEAR NEARLY EXCEPT FOR A HURRICANE YEAR.MOVING FROM THERE INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE EXPENDITURES, UH, JUST OVER A MILLION, UH, REVENUES, AGAIN, HOLDING STEADY.
'CAUSE SO MUCH OF THIS IS BASED ON SALES TAX, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE BEING STAGNANT, ALTHOUGH WE'RE OUTPERFORMING THIS YEAR.
UM, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED, UH, OR WILL EXCEED THE, UH, REVENUE STANDARD FOR BOTH, UH, INTEREST IN SALES, TAX REVENUE.
SO WE BUDGETED FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE, ALMOST NET FLAT GROWTH YEAR OVER YEAR.
UH, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE HAVE THE POSITION BUILT IN THERE.
AND THEN UNDER SPECIAL PROJECTS, UH, $220,000.
UH, THAT'S TO GO TOWARDS THE, UH, GO TOWARDS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT BASICALLY RELATED TO THE, UH, THE CONTRACTS FOR INCENTIVES FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
UH, AND THEN THE, UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE, UH, MY MIND.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S INCLUDED IN 49 75, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, UH, AND A REBRAND ON THE, UH, MONUMENTATION.
AND THEN THE 1 75 HERE, UH, ACTUALLY SHOULD BE ONE OR SHOULD BE BUMPED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I DIDN'T CHANGE THAT NUMBER LAST NIGHT.
ONE THING THAT, UM, I THINK SHOULD FALL UNDER THE EDC OR THE, UM, THE ONE WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE HOT, THE HOT FUNDS, BUT, WHICH I KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THERE NEEDS TO BE A REBRAND OF OUR MARKETING STRATEGY WITH THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT.
WE HAD, UH, ACTUALLY BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HIT, HAD ENGAGED A FIRM TO ASSIST US WITH THAT.
AND THEN THEY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS FOLLOWING THE PANDEMIC.
AND WE REALLY HAVE NOT REVISITED IT.
THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH BUFFER LEFT.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES UNDER, UH, THIS YEAR'S SPECIAL PROJECTS, IF WE FOLLOW THAT SAME TREND LINE, THERE SHOULD BE ADEQUATE FUNDING IN THERE TO, TO HELP US WITH THAT NEXT YEAR.
I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PUSH NOT ONLY JUST FOR, TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO TO BUILD, UH, ONCE YOU GET A GOOD COMMUNITY BRANDING TO BUILD THAT COMMUNITY AROUND THE CITY.
AND WE NEED SOMETHING TO HELP START, PEOPLE FEEL PRIDE IN THE CITY AGAIN.
AND IT ALL STARTS WITH BRANDING.
WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT IN, UH, ON THERE.
HOW, WHERE'S THE, UH, GRANT THAT'S ALSO LISTED UNDER THE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER 46 60 SPECIAL PROJECTS? YES.
SO THIS YEAR WE'VE SPENT, OR WE ARE ON PACE TO SPEND ABOUT 43 RELATED TO THAT.
UM, SO THAT LEAVES A GAP OF ABOUT 78 IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
BUT WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT, I MEAN, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THE TREND CHANGING TOO MUCH NEXT YEAR.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW CJ WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO SAY THAT AGAIN, BUT, UH, MAYOR, WE, WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THE EDC.
UM, I KNOW RIGHT NOW HOW OUR GRANTS WORK IS TO THINK THEY CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS BEFORE THEY DO THE WORK.
BUT I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF OUR SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT THEY'VE, THEY DO THE WORK, THEY FIND OUT OUR GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO APPLY ANYMORE.
'CAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE WORK.
I WAS THINKING MAYBE WE COULD HAVE LIKE A 30 TO 90 DAY BUFFER AFTER THEY DO THE WORK TO STILL APPLY FOR THE GRANT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME TO DISCUSS IT, BUT NO, ACTUALLY THIS IS, THIS IS THE TIME.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA BRING TO THE EDC BOARD AS A CHANGE TO THE GUIDELINES TO ALLOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE APPLICANTS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN THAT, THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR BOAT.
SO THAT THEY'RE MAKING THE CHANGES PRIOR TO GETTING APPROVAL FOR THE, THE GRANT THAT WE'RE GIVING IS THAT IT IS EITHER THEY, I, I SPOKE WITH FRED ORTIZ FROM HELP BANK AND HE MENTIONED TO ME, YOU KNOW, YOU BUY, YOU BUY THE, FOR A SMALL BUSINESS, THEN YOU BUY THE BUILDING, YOU WANNA START YOUR BUSINESS.
YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THE TIME TO SIT AND WAIT, WAIT FOR YOU TO START THE RENOVATIONS
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FOR YOU TO DO ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DO, YOU DO IT AND THEN YOU FIND OUT THE CITY HAS THESE FUNDS, BUT THEN YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO APPLY ANYMORE AFTER YOU DO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALLOWED.
THERE'S NO LEGAL PROVISION THAT WOULD PREVENT US.
IT'S JUST THE INTERNAL POLICY.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
FOR THE EDC BOARD, WE GUARD SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
BUT THE ONES, THE ONES, THE LAST ONES THAT WE TALKED TO, THEY, UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ITEMIZED THE COUNTY EXCAVATION.
SO NO, I MEAN, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE PUT OUT, BUT IT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WHEN THEY JUMP INTO PROJECTS LIKE THAT, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T GET BIDS.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE.
THEY JUST GO WITH, YOU KNOW, OH, JIM TOLD ME HE'D DO THIS FOR 12 GRAND.
OR IN ONE CASE, MY BUDDY'S BUDDY TOLD ME HE'D DO IT FOR A HUNDRED GRAND AND THEN TAKES 89 GRAND IN BUCKS.
SO, UM, BUT THAT ALSO GETS BACK TO THAT EDUCATING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WHEN THEY HAVE A PROJECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON EDC THAT TAKES US TO PUBLIC SAFETY? NO, THANK YOU.
I'LL JUST HIT PERMITS JUST REAL QUICK.
'CAUSE WE DO CONSIDER THAT PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY SINCE IT'S GUARANTEEING SAFETY FOR THE FAMILY OR FOR THE PUBLIC.
UH, THE BIG CHANGE HERE IS GONNA BE A LEADERSHIP TRANSITION IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE HAVE INTERVIEWED, UH, THREE, FOUR, HOW MANY? FOUR.
FOUR, UH, POTENTIAL REPLACEMENTS FOR JERRY? WE THINK WE'VE SETTLED ON ONE.
UM, HE'S GOT EXPERIENCE IN ALL THE CERTIFICATIONS.
HE'S CURRENTLY WITH ANOTHER CITY IN CENTRAL TEXAS.
AND SO, UH, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE HIM COME IN AND THEN HELP, UH, JERRY WILL STICK ON THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, TO HELP MAKE SURE HE GETS ACCLIMATED TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
IS THAT UNDER YOUR, IS THAT UNDER YOUR YOUTUBE? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S SEPARATE.
SO, UH, MAJOR CATEGORY CHANGES HERE.
WE DID UPGRADE THE, UH, OVERTIME BUDGET TO TAKE A LOOK TO MORE ACCURATELY REFLECT WHAT WE'RE EXPENDING IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
UM, IN TERMS OF CAPITAL NEEDS, UH, THEY HAVE THREE VEHICLES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
UH, THEIR OPERATING COSTS ARE ESSENTIALLY FLAT ALMOST TO WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, IN TERMS OF ACTUAL EXPENDABLES.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, ABOUT THE SAME IN TERMS OF CONTRACT SERVICES.
UM, THE ONE BIG ITEM, UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY 1 0 4, ISN'T IT? YES.
SO, UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE, UH, THE ADDITION, UH, USING FORFEITURE FUNDS TO, UH, PURCHASE A DRONE AS FIRST RESPONDER.
A WHAT? WAIT, WHAT?
SO BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA USE THIS YEAR, THE PLAN IS TO USE IT OUT A FORFEITURE FUND.
UH, AND BASICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS IS IT'S A, IT'S FOR THE MOST PART IN A AUTOMATED DRONE THAT IT IS CONNECTS WITH OUR CONFIGURATED DISPATCH.
AND WHEN, UH, SERGEANT SAYS TO LAUNCH THE DRONE, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY FLY TO THE LOCATION AHEAD OF TIME AND GIVE US SURVEILLANCE AT BEFORE THE OFFICERS EVEN GET THERE.
UM, ONCE IT'S THERE, THEN SOMEONE AT A COMPUTER CAN ACTUALLY TAKE OVER AND FLY IT FROM THERE.
WHEN I SAW IT DEMONSTRATED, I WAS IN FORT WORTH AND THE GUY WAS FLYING ONE IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
UM, BUT THE PLAN IS, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UM, FIT THE BILL THIS TIME THIS YEAR AND THEN GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO FIRE AND UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT WILL PAY HALF AND THE OTHER HALF WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT CAN, UH, BE DISPATCHED TO FIRE CALLS TO AHEAD OF TIME.
THEY CAN HAVE ALREADY KNOW IF THERE'S ACTUAL FLAMES, IF THERE'S SMOKE, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AHEAD OF TIME.
IT'S GOT A RESPONSE TIME OF 86 SECONDS.
SO, UM, IT, IT'S GOT SELF FAILING SELF.
IT, AND YOU KNOW, IT DOES EVERYTHING ITSELF.
IT, IT FLIES FOR 45 MINUTES AND HAS TO COME BACK, CHARGE FOR 20 BEFORE
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IT CAN FLY AGAIN.UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST, UH, A FORCE MULTIPLIER WITHOUT ADDING PEOPLE.
WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, SO WHAT WAS THE CHANGE OF HEART? I REMEMBER LAST BUDGET SEASON YOU WERE THE, THAT IT THAT IT'S AUTOMATED.
UH, DO YOU HAVE TO GET ANY OF YOUR OFFICERS DRONE CERTIFIED? NO, SIR.
IT, I, THEY'LL BE TAUGHT HOW TO DO IT ON THE COMPUTER.
UM, BUT THE FLOCK HANDLES EVERYTHING FOR US.
UM, THEY WILL HANDLE THE INSTALLATION, ANY MAINTENANCE, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, THE REASON IS IS THAT, AND, AND WE'VE SEEN THIS WITH SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING AGENCIES, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ONLY GOT SO MANY DRONE PILOTS.
YOU HAVE TO CALL THEM AT HOME.
THEY HAVE TO GET UP, GET DRESSED, COME OUT, GET EVERYTHING SET UP, THERE'S A DELAY.
WHEREAS THIS IS AUTOMATIC LAUNCH.
SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY AUTOMATIC LAUNCH? LIKE SOMEBODY CALLS IN TO 9 1 1 AND IT AUTOMATICALLY, OR HOW DOES NO, OUR DISPATCH, SO OUR DISPATCH WILL HAVE BASICALLY THE CONTROL BUTTON AND THE OFFICER WILL SAY, GO AHEAD AND LAUNCH THE DRONE.
THEY'LL HIT IT AND IT'S CONNECTED TO OUR DISPATCH SO IT KNOWS WHERE TO GO AND WE'LL AUTOMATICALLY GO TO WHERE IT'S AT.
I'M THINKING IT'S MORE LIKE BATMAN.
YOU DO, YOU GUYS, I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA WATCH A VIDEO ON IT, WE CAN PULL ONE UP.
IT'S, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING TO WATCH.
IF I COULD SPELL, THERE WE GO.
WELL, THAT'S AN HOUR AND 58 MINUTES.
NO, WE, WE COULD JUST GO TO THEIR WEBSITE.
THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU CAN SEND IT TO THE YOU
BUT NO, IT'S, IT'S EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE.
NSG SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SPECIALIZED TRAINING LEAKAGE.
THE OTHER NICE PART ABOUT IT, TALKING TO HIM, I WAS VERY SI SURPRISED.
IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE CALL 'EM AND THEY COME PICK IT UP AND WE'RE DONE.
OH REALLY? CAN WE NAME IT AIRWOLF?
SO YOU BUY A PROOF AND YOU PAY A YEARLY SET FOR THE SERVICE.
YOU'RE BASICALLY BUYING THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE.
HAIR CODE THAT HOW MUCH? UH, 50,000.
SO, AND IT'S GOT THE, DID YOU DESCRIBE THE VISUAL IR? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT THE, THE INFRARED, THE FLR.
SO AT NIGHT, IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY RUN FROM US, IT'S ACTUALLY GOT THE LICENSE PLATE READER ON IT TO WHERE IF YOU HAVE A VEHICLE OH WOW.
RUNNING, IT'LL FOLLOW, IT'LL LATCH ON.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY, IF YOU HAVE A PERSON RUNNING, IT'LL LATCH ONTO THAT PERSON AND FOLLOW THEM.
THIS IS THE CHIEF ONE TOO? YEAH, THIS IS, AND THIS IS JUST 'CAUSE I SAW ANOTHER CITY HAD, OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CITY OR STATE DEPARTMENT, WHERE THE POLICE TEAM, IT GOES IN FRONT OF THE POLICE IF YOU'RE ENTERING A ROOM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THERE, THERE ARE AGENCIES, UH, THAT THEIR SWAT AGENCIES ARE USING THEM AHEAD OF TIME.
SO THIS ONE DOESN'T BASIC MODEL? NO, NO, NO.
THIS ONE IS A LARGE OH, THIS ONE'S BIG.
SO, UH, OUR, THE SWAT TEAM THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN, THEY HANDLE IT THAT WAY.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SWAT TEAM HANDLES THAT.
MAYBE IT'S A SMALL ONE AND IT'S INDIVIDUALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PD? OH, WAS THAT IT? YEAH.
I MEAN OUR, OUR OPERATING, OUR OPERATING COSTS WENT UP 0.28%.
SO IT'S TALKING ABOUT RUNNING THE TIGHT SHIP.
HOW WAS YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM AT PD? ARE YOU, DO YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME LEADERSHIP AS LAST YEAR OR? WELL, CHIEF TURNER RETIRED.
AND SO HE'S THE ASSISTANT CHIEF AND THEN, UH, LIEUTENANT MITCHELL IS STILL THERE.
LIEUTENANT MITCHELL IS STILL THERE.
WE'VE HAD, WE'VE GOT ONE OPENING, WE'VE HAD THREE, UH, OFFICERS LEAVE, UH, RECENTLY.
ONE BY OUR CHOICE ONE WENT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT LOOKING FOR, UM, JUST MORE OPPORTUNITIES.
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THEN ONE JUST RECENTLY LEFT, UM, THIS WEEK TO, UM, SEEK OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WAS MORE TO HIS LIKING.I SAW THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE THAT WE PAID IN TUITION.
SO I GUESS WE GOT ONE, ONE IN THE ACADEMY TOO.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE GOING INTO THE ACADEMY.
WHAT WE'VE KIND OF DONE WITH OUR CADET PROGRAM IS IT'S MORE OF A HOMEGROWN CADET PROGRAM.
UM, THE LAST, THIS'LL BE OUR FOURTH ONE.
THE LAST THREE, I HAD A DISPATCHER AND TWO JAILERS THAT HAD WORKED FOR WITH US FOR ABOUT TWO TO THREE YEARS AND THEN EXPRESSED INTEREST.
AND SO THEY'VE KIND OF GROWN UP IN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVEN'T OPENED A CADET PROGRAM OUTSIDE.
WE HAVE ONE WE HAVEN'T NEED TO, BUT PLUS IT'S JUST A, AT LEAST WE KNOW THEM, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THEM VERSUS KIND OF HAVING A, SOMEBODY JUST, I HATE TO SAY OFF THE STREET, BUT SOMEBODY OFF THE STREET HAD YOU HIRE AND PUT THROUGH THE ACADEMY.
SO YOU, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE THOSE TWO OPEN TO FILL THIS NEXT YEAR OR ARE YOU NOT? WE, WE, WE WE'RE ACTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, OUT OF THOSE THREE THAT HAVE RECENTLY LEFT, THE ONLY OPENING WE STILL HAVE IS THE ONE THAT JUST LEFT THIS WEEK.
SO, OH, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THAT THOSE THREE WERE STILL ON FIELD.
WE JUST GOT THE, THE ONE THAT FROM ONE JUST LEFT THIS WEEK.
AND IS THAT ONE GONNA GET FILLED BY THE CADET THAT'S IN THE PROGRAM? NO, HE'S, HE TOOK THE POSITION OF THE ONE THAT WENT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK WHAT'S THAT? I, IF I, IF I CAN REAL QUICK, I KIND OF LEFT OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE.
WHICH IS, UH, CODE AND AND HEALTH.
I FORGOT YOU WERE PART OF THAT.
JUST, JUST VERY QUICKLY TO TELL YOU THOSE POSITIONS ARE FILLED.
UM, WE, THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
MY, MY NEW, UM, HEALTH SPECIALIST HAS, WE'VE HAD TO, UM, HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME RESTAURANTS ABOUT GETTING THEIR STUFF UP TO CODE BECAUSE THEY WERE CLOSE TO GETTING CLOSED DOWN.
UM, WE HAD TO THREATEN THE TWO YESTERDAY TO GET THEIR, THEIR, UH, HEALTH PERMITS PAID OR WE ARE GOING TO SHUT THEM DOWN.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB TOO.
SO I JUST NEEDED TO THROW THAT IN THERE.
AND WE, WE WE'RE ENJOYING OUR NEW COMPANY WITH CORY FOLKS IN THERE TOO.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD GOTTEN THE CHANCE.
YEAH, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REPORTING.
YEAH, THE REPORTING WHEN IT COMES TO CODE, IF WE COULD GET IT IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT MAYBE, OR, OR A SEPARATE REPORT ON ITS OWN, JUST SO THAT IT IS NOT FLUTTERED IN THERE WITH THE REST OF THE POLICE STUFF.
AND I'VE GOT AN IDEA ON QUANTITY.
I MEAN IF YOU'LL JUST KIND OF TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
DID YOU I WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO HIM THAT, DID HE TALK ABOUT THE QUADRANT IN THE ZONE? MM-HMM
CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO, I'M SORRY I HATE TO KEEP CALLING YOU BACK.
DID YOU WANT TO KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THE DIVISION OF LABOR AND THE, THE ZONE FORMAT AND THE AWARDS? SO, SO WHAT WE, JUST TO KIND OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER, UM, SINCE WE REALLY ONLY GOT IN, IN THAT WE'VE GOT CODE HEALTH PLUS THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THOSE FOUR AND DIVIDED THE CITY UP INTO, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE FIVE WARDS, THEY EACH HAVE, THEY NOW EACH HAVE WARD PLUS THEY ALL SHARE AWARD, UM, TO KIND OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER OF THAT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE MANAGEABLE, UH, IN DOING THAT.
NOW WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT COMING ON, THAT WILL FREE UP, UH, THE AMOUNT OF PAPERWORK.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT OF PAPERWORK
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IN POLICE WORK.IT DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO COMPARING WHAT IT IS WITH CODE HEALTH.
SO, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY LETTERS AND CERTIFIED LETTERS AND STUFF THAT HAS TO BE SENT OUT TO PEOPLE.
AND SO THAT WILL FREE THEM UP AS WELL TO HANDLE THOSE THINGS.
BUT WE JUST KIND OF, UH, CAME TOGETHER AND DECIDED THE EASIEST WAY WAS TO DIVIDE THE CITY UP SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN SECTION VERSUS A LOT OF OVERLAPPING.
ARE YOU GUYS CROSS TRAINING IN EACH OTHER'S JOBS? THEY ARE.
SO, SO CODE AND HEALTH CODE AND HEALTH ARE CROSS-TRAINED AND THEN THE FIRE MARSHAL IS BOTH FIRE MARSHALS ARE CROSS-TRAINED IN THE CODE SIDE.
JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE TO I, AND I'M LEARNING, I DID NOT REALIZE UNTIL YESTERDAY MM-HMM
THAT EVEN KROGER AND WALGREENS HAS TO HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT BECAUSE THEY SELL FOOD.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S PACKAGED FOOD, THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT AND CRAZY ENOUGH, THAT'S WHO WE WERE STRUGGLING TO GET PAYMENTS FROM.
SO, BUT YES, THEY'RE, THEY ARE ALL CROSS TRAINED THAT'S SAYING THE CITY A TON OF MONEY.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE THEY, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE ATTACKING IT AT SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I, LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY WORK HARD AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES STUFF THAT PEOPLE JUST DON'T SEE.
AND SO NOW THAT YOU HAVE FIRE MARSHAL WOMAN HEALTH AND CODE AND EVERYTHING UNDER YOU, ARE YOU, I KNOW YOU WERE USED TO BEING ONLY FOCUSED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ARE YOU NOW RELYING ON THOSE TO HANDLE THEM THEMSELVES? OR ARE YOU KIND OF IN EACH OF THE AREAS OR YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, HERE THE, I I DON'T, I'M, I'M LIKE AS FAR FROM MICROMANAGER AS YOU CAN HAVE, SO I REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT, I DON'T WANNA SAY 50,000 FOOT VIEW, PROBABLY MORE OF A 10,000 FOOT VIEW.
AND I LET THEM HANDLE THEIR BUSINESS AND I RELY A LOT ON THEM.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE PATROL LIEUTENANT, HE HANDLES THE PATROL SIDE.
THE ASSISTANT CHIEF HANDLES THE CID SIDE, SO THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO, I'VE GOT THAT, WHAT THEY CALL THE SPAN OF CONTROL.
I, I ABSOLUTELY RELY ON, ON MY FOLKS TO, TO ASSIST ME IN THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE I JUST CAN'T GET IN THE WEEDS WITH, WITH ALL OF IT.
SO, YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL OF THAT.
SO WE LIKE, WE LIKE, THAT'S KIND OF HARD.
THE BIGGEST THING THEY'LL CALL, THEY'LL COME TO ME, LIKE ESPECIALLY CODE AND HEALTH, THEY'LL COME TO ME IF THEY HAVE ISSUES.
UH, BUT WE HAVE A STANDING MEETING EVERY WEDNESDAY.
EVERY WEDNESDAY MORNING WE MEET JUST TO KIND OF BOUNCE SOME THINGS OFF.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY, THEY'RE ABLE TO HANDLE IT ON THEIR OWN PART AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
THEY, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE EXPERTS THAN I AM ON THAT STUFF.
SO WHAT WAS THE STRUCTURE OF THE BOARD BEFORE YOU HAD CODE? UH, CODE FIRE MARSHAL WAS ITS OWN ANIMAL.
UH, FIRE MARSHAL AND CODE WERE IN THE, IN A SEPARATE BUDGET CATEGORY.
THEY ALL KIND OF FLOATED UNDERNEATH BUILDING PERMITS.
SO WHO WAS THERE DIRECT? IT WAS STRAIGHT TO ME.
SO WE, FREE FREEPORT HAS MOVED.
I DON'T KNOW, FREEPORT HAS MOVED CODE UNDER THEM AS WELL.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF WHAT'S GONNA GO IN THAT WAY.
WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY AND CONSOLIDATE FUNDS AND OPERATIONS TO MAKE THINGS EASIER TO CONTROL.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT, HOW IT WAS BEFORE.
THE BIG DEAL WITH FIRE MARSHAL IS THAT I HAVE TO HOLD THEIR COMMISSION, SO IT'S NICE FOR ME TO HAVE YEAH.
WELL, YEAH, THE WARRANT OFFICER'S STILL SEPARATE.
THEY STILL HAVE WARRANT OFFICER, HE HOLDS THE COMMISSION, BUT SHE WORKS OUT OF THE COURT.
UH, BASICALLY THE BIG CHANGES HERE, UH, WE'VE INCREASED THE, UH, WATER ALLOWANCE AND WE ARE ALSO, OTHERWISE THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE WE BEEN MADE.
JUST MADE SOME MORE CATEGORIES.
WITH GINGER'S HELP, WE'D COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PPE ONE TO KEEP THAT SEPARATE SO IT WOULDN'T BE A CAPITAL PURCHASE.
WHAT WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, RADIOS AND REPAIRS USED TO BE RADIO REPAIRS.
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MADE IT RADIOS AND REPAIRS.WE TRIED TO LOOK AT IT AND STREAMLINE IT A BIT SO THAT IT WAS MORE UNDERSTANDABLE.
SO WE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
AND IT WASN'T SUCH A, UH, TRY TO SQUEEZE PURCHASES INTO A GENERALIZED, UH, LINE ITEM THAT THEY WERE MORE SPECIFIC FOR HIS DEPARTMENT NEEDS.
LIKE PPE, HE KEPT ASKING FOR IT AS A CAPITAL PURCHASE, BUT THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB WITHOUT GEAR.
LIKE THEY CAN'T GO AND FIGHT FIRE WITHOUT PROTECTED GEAR.
SO WE MADE IT A LINE ITEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PURCHASE THAT EVERY YEAR.
THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO BE, TO FIGHT FIRE WITHOUT THAT GEAR.
SO IT'S PROTECTIVE, UH, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE GEAR.
WE JUST TOOK AND STREAMLINED IT SOME MINUTES SO THAT YOU CAN UNDER MORE ROUGHLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS THEY WERE ASKING FOR AND WHAT THEY NEEDED.
THE BIGGEST THING WAS WE TOOK IT OUTTA UNIFORMS. 'CAUSE LIKE YOU SEE $43,000 IN UNIFORMS, WHAT DOES 20 FIREFIGHTERS NEED? WHAT, $10,000 OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
A LOT OF THAT'S THAT 30,000 OF THAT 13 IS JUST BUNKER GEAR AND STUFF FROM LAST, YOU KNOW, THAT WE BOUGHT THIS YEAR.
AND MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND GROUNDS SHARED.
NOW HE'S GOT SOME, UH, REMODELING WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING OVER AT TWO.
UH, BUT WE HAD TO REPAIR DOORS AT TWO AND THREE.
SO, AND THEN AND UH, SORRY CHIEF, THE, CAN YOU GO BACK? OH YEAH.
WHERE WAS THAT? YOU HAD TRAINING.
THE REASON WHY TRAINING'S SO HIGH IS IF THE CITY HAD TO PAY FOR IT THEIRSELVES, IT WOULD BE UP THERE.
BUT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THE 26 0 4 GRANDS AND MOST EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PAYS FOR IT AND WE GET REIMBURSED AND INSTEAD OF THEM HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE BACK AND FORTH PAPERWORK, BUT IF THE 26 0 4 GRANTS WENT AWAY AND THE MONEY WASN'T THERE, THEN SPENDING, YEAH.
YEAH, NO, I WAS WONDERING IF WE NEEDED TO SEND MORE IN REGARDS TO TRAINING BECAUSE I
SO USE THAT AS A PLACEHOLDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERED EITHER WAY.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THE UH, IT WAS THE TWO, TWO, UH, ONE AGO THAT WE LOOKED AT THE RETIREMENT FOR FIREFIGHTERS.
WE HAVE, WE BUMPED RETIREMENT.
WHAT WAS LAST YEAR? LAST YEAR WENT UP TO 200.
THEY'RE COMPETITIVE WITH THE REST OF THE CITIES.
THAT'S AN INCENTIVE IN OUR RECRUITING ASPECT ALSO.
AND WE HAVE THAT ASPECT ONTO IT.
THE WATER BILL AND THE RETIREMENT ARE BENEFITS OF THE CITY.
AND THEN HOW MANY FIRE WE GET? RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING $55 OFF OUR WATER BILL PLUS, PLUS RETIREMENT, PLUS RETIREMENT.
OH NO, BUT I'M SAYING LIKE RIGHT NOW YOU GET IT OR YOU RIGHT NOW WE GET 55 OFF THE WATER BILL.
SO WHEN IT WENT UP $20 LAST YEAR, YOU LIKE IT, IT WAS 55 FOR A WHILE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT THEN WHEN THE WATER BILL WENT UP LAST YEAR, OF COURSE THAT'S, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER BILL, YOUR MINIMUM BILL WENT UP $20 PERIOD.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO GET 20 MORE, WHICH IS WHAT, SO NEXT YEAR IT'LL BE 75.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR.
NOW IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CAPTURE THOUGH, 'CAUSE OF THE, THE WAY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM, WE'RE ONLY SPENDING 11 FIVE ON PAST TWO THIS YEAR.
SO YOU GET RED, NOT HAVE A WATER BILL IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, YEAH.
YOU DON'T GET THE NO BENEFIT, STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME HOUSE.
YEAH, THE WATER BILL HAS TO BE IN YOUR NAME.
DO A LOT OF YOUR UH, FIREFIGHTERS LIVE IN AN APARTMENT? UH, ONE TIME WE HAD, IS THERE A GOOD AMOUNT THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT? YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING, THERE'S SEVEN, THERE'S 17 FIREFIGHTERS INCLUDING THE FIVE RETIREES.
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RE ALSO DOES THE RETIREES, YOU KNOW, AND IF THEY PASS THEIR WIFE, SO, BUT THERE'S 17 FIREFIGHTERS INCLUDING THE RETIREES THAT ARE ON THE WATER OUT OF TIME.MAYBE TWO
YEAH, BUT I MEAN YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OTHER CITIES, I DON'T KNOW HOW LAKE JACKSON DOES IT, BUT I MEAN THEY, EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET LIKE A BY CALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF I CALL AND EVERYTHING.
AS FAR AS OBJECTION, WELL I, FOR THE WATER BILL, THEY HAVE A CAP AND IF YOU MAKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, YOU GET THE CAP OF WOOD SELL OUT PER YEAR.
YOU COULD GET A CHECK ONCE A YEAR OUT OF THEIR WATER DEPARTMENT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS YEAR.
IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO DO OVER THE NEXT YEAR IS DO HOMEWORK ON THAT AND SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE DROP THE WATER BILL A LITTLE BIT TO HELP, YOU KNOW, GET ALL 20 PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY A WATER BILL.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE THIS YEAR THING.
THAT'S JUST DO OUR HOMEWORK OVER THE NEXT YEAR TO SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.
DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR FIRE TRUCKS? ABOUT MY NEW FIRETRUCK? YEAH, GO
'CAUSE GINGER GET MAD AT, OKAY, I'M GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT THIS MINUTE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT WEIGHT PERIOD.
YEAH, WAS ACTUALLY, THOSE ARE TWO TO THREE YEARS.
I WAS GONNA SAY THEY'RE 24 TO 36.
GONNA SAY IF YOU ORDER IT TODAY, YOU AIN'T GONNA HAVE IT.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FIRE? THANK YOU CHIEF.
GOOD DO WITHOUT THESE TWO, MOSTLY THIS ONE SHE DOES ANSWER EMAILS.
BASICALLY EMS IS STAYING FLAT.
UH, THEY DO WILL NEED TO PROBABLY LOOK AT A CHASSIS REPLACEMENT OR A CARRIED REPLACEMENT NEXT YEAR, YEAR.
UM, WE SHOULD START LOOKING NEXT YEAR.
YES, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY GET US TAKING A POSSESSION THE YEAR AFTER.
UM, WITH THE WAY IT GOES, WE'VE SET OURSELVES UP NICELY TO HAVE REPLACED ALL THREE UNITS SINCE 2019.
SO OUR OLDEST UNIT IS, UM, ONLY WHAT, SEVEN YEARS OLD NOW.
BUT IF WE GO MUCH FURTHER OUT, THEN WE START LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD IN 2019.
WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO REPLACE ALL THREE UNITS IN A RAPID SECESSION BECAUSE WE HAD UNITS THAT SOME OF THE BOXES WERE 25 YEARS OLD, WE COULDN'T REMOUNT THEM ANY LONGER.
UM, THEY WERE JUST, I MEAN HONESTLY IT WAS DANGEROUS.
SO WE DON'T WANNA PUT OURSELVES BACK IN THAT POSITION.
AND IF WE START THE PROCESS NEXT YEAR AND THEN HOPSCOTCH JUST KIND OF EVERY, PUT US ON A ROTATION, THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO MAKE THESE LARGE PURCHASES ALL AT ONE TIME.
SO WE CAN GET QUITE A BIT OF TIME IF WE OUT OF THESE UNITS AS WE JUST START REMOUNTING THEM.
AND IF WE DO THAT THEN, UM, BUT 2 82 IS GONNA BE THE FIRST UNIT THAT NEEDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOUNTED.
WE ALSO BOUGHT 2 82 AS A DEMO UNIT FOR, SO IT WAS SUPER CHEAP, SUPER CHEAP, UH, BUT IT WAS A DEMO UNIT SO IT, IT WAS NOT SPEC FOR US.
IT CAME KIND OF AS IS AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE.
AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO TREE MOUNTED.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THIS YEAR REALLY.
WE'VE GOT A WASHING MACHINE THAT'S DOWN, UM, DOWNSTAIRS.
IT'S BEEN DOWN ACTUALLY FOR THE LAST YEAR.
UM, THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO START CROSS CONTAMINATING WHEN WE'RE WASHING THINGS AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WASH HERE THAT WE DO NOT WANNA WASH PERSONAL THINGS WITH.
AND SO IF WE UNPLUG THE WASH MACHINE, LET IT SIT FOR A MINUTE AND THEN PLUG IT BACK IN, WE CAN GET ONE WASH OUT OF IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST YEAR.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE IT.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING NOT TO DO THE WHOLE PROBLEM.
SO I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.
HUH? WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE CAN.
IF YOU'RE OFFERING ILL WILL ABSOLUTELY TAKE IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BASIC WASHING MACHINE, SO SIX TO $800.
YEAH, IT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF HIGH CAP, YOU KNOW, LARGE CAPACITY SO WE CAN GET, WE GOT MONEY.
WOULDN'T A COMMERCIAL ONE BE BETTER? UM, WE'VE NEVER REALLY BOUGHT A COMMERCIAL ONE FOR THESE BECAUSE WE JUST WASH SHEETS AND TOWELS, BUT THEY'RE SHEETS AND TOWELS THAT ARE ON THE UNITS.
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THEY COME CONTACT WITH PATIENTS, WHICH IS WHY WE TRY TO KEEP THAT WASH FIRE.FIREFIGHTER EQUIPMENT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THAT.
LIKE WE HAVE OUR OWN NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AND WE DON'T WASH ANY OF OUR STUFF IN THAT, THAT, THAT IS A VERY SPECIFIC MACHINE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS, THAT'S, I WOULD WELL YOU SAID A REGULAR ONE.
I WAS LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY COULD WASH THEIR NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THIS IS LITERALLY JUST FOR THE SHEETS AND TOWELS AND THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE USE ON THE AMBULANCE.
AND YOU DON'T WANNA WASH YOUR UNIFORMS 'CAUSE THESE GUYS WORK FOR 48 HOURS TO 72 HOURS AT A TIME.
SO THEY HAVE TO WASH YOUR UNIFORMS. THEY HAVE TO WASH.
WE TRY NOT TO WASH THOSE IN THE SAME WASHING MACHINE.
SO NO, THIS IS JUST A REGULAR WASH.
AND JUST ONE THING THAT THE OVERTIME 40 30, SO 27,400.
SO THE, THE WAY THAT THE COMPENSATION STRUCTURE IS FOR EMS IS DRIVEN ME NUTS SINCE I GOT HERE EIGHT YEARS AGO.
UM, WE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE HAVE OUR SCHEDULE STRUCTURED, WE END UP BASICALLY EQUIVALENT.
THE, THE EQUIVALENT IS WHEN YOU WORK, YOU EARN ALMOST AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF OVERTIME.
UH, BECAUSE THE WAY WE, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY A SCHEDULE THING.
SO THERE'S NO WAY, SO WE HAVE TO COVER THE TRUCK FOR 24 HOURS.
IT'S OVERTIME RATE, UH, NO MATTER WHAT SCHEDULE WE WORKED, UNLESS WE HIRED AN ENTIRE NEW SHIFT.
IF WE HIRED FOUR MORE PEOPLE AND WE HAD FOUR SHIFTS, WE COULD WORK THE COUNTY SCHEDULE AND WE WOULD JUST WORK 12 HOURS.
BUT THAT'S GONNA COST THE CITY WAY MORE MONEY THAN IT'S COSTING IN JUST THE OVERTIME.
SO AS IT STANDS, NO MATTER WHAT SCHEDULE WE WORKED, WE ACCUMULATE TWO PAY PERIODS IN A ROW.
YOU GET 40 HOURS OF OVERTIME BUILT IN, NO MATTER IF THEY'RE JUST SHOWING UP FOR THEIR SCHEDULE.
AND THEN ONE PAY PERIOD OF 16 HOURS OF OVERTIME.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU WORK IT, BECAUSE THEY'RE EMS AND THEY'RE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED TO A FIRE DEPARTMENT TO OVER TIME FEDERALLY, YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM ANYTHING.
IF WE WERE ATTACHED TO A FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEN IT STARTS SHIFTING.
AND IN PD, SO FIRES ACTUALLY, IT TAKES LONGER BEFORE YOU CAN GET, IT'S 53 HOURS BEFORE YOU CAN GET IT OVERTIME.
AND I THINK PD IS 42 BEFORE YOU CAN PAY THEM OVERTIME.
BUT FOR EMS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ATTACHED TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE PUBLIC SAFETIES, YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM ANYTHING OVER 40 OR WE'RE AN 80 HOUR WORK WEEK.
SO ANYTHING FOR 80, YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM.
WE HAVE WHAT I CHARGED NEEDS TO GO UP WHAT SUBSTANTIALLY, WHAT ELSE DOESN'T HAPPEN IN AN ENTIRE YEAH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO, TO HIRE FOUR MORE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO PAY ALL THAT GOES INTO THE HOUSE.
UM, IN ORDER TO GET, AND YOU WOULD JUST GET RID OF THE OVERTIME.
THE ONLY TIME WE WOULD WORK OVERTIME IS FOR VACATION OR SICK TIME.
UH, BUT IT WOULD COST THE CITY SUBSTANTIALLY MORE MONEY.
SO WHAT WE DO TO KIND OF TRY TO OFFSET IS WE HAVE PART-TIMERS AND, UM, THEY HOLD THEIR, THEY CARRY THEIR WEIGHT.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD DEDICATED CONSISTENT PART-TIMERS WHO COME IN AND HELP COVER.
NO, AND I, I MEAN I'VE TALKED TO YOUR PEOPLE IN, THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WITH YEAH.
I'M SURE THEY LIKE SITUATION THAT THEY HAVE HERE.
BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE YEAH, THE NUMBERS THAT WE ONLY BUDGET, WELL THAT'S, COREY AND I WERE JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH ON, ON THE S SKEW AND I TRYING TO LUMP SOME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TMRS WOULD BE.
I MOVED UP, MOVED NUMBERS, BUT THE MIDDLE COLUMN IS MORE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT YOU SEE IN TERMS OF ACTUAL HOURS PLUS THE OVERTIME HOURS.
SO YEAH, IT, IT, THAT WAS LIKE WE HAD, WE'VE ONLY BUDGET 27,000, BUT WE'RE SPENDING NO, NO, NO.
EVERY YEAR I TRY, I HAVE THIS, UH, WHAT'S THE, WHAT WAS THE DUDE THAT TRIED TO PUSH THE ROCK UP TO HELP? WHAT, WHAT DALE GREEK MYTH.
ANYWAY, I ALWAYS, EVERY YEAR I TRY AND SHOVE THAT ROCK.
WELL, AND WE USED TO NOT SEPARATE IT OUT AT ALL.
AND IT LOOKED LIKE WE WENT OVER OUR OVERTIME BUDGET EVERY SINGLE YEAR WHEN HONESTLY WE WERE JUST SHOWING UP FOR OUR SCHEDULE.
LIKE, IT, IT, IT'S NOT A, THE, THE ONLY TYPE OF OVERTIME THAT WE REALLY KIND OF GENERATE ARE WHEN THESE GUYS TAKE OVER, UH, VACATION.
AND MOST OF THEM WILL TELL YOU THEY WOULD RATHER SELL IT THAN TAKE IT.
AND, UM, WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OPEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
LIKE WE VOLUNTEERED A HIRING FREEZE.
AND I THINK THIS YEAR WE KIND OF GOT VOLUNTEERED AND WHICH WE'RE OKAY WITH, UH, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
WE, WE HAVE REALLY GOOD PART-TIMERS, WHICH, UH, TWO WERE EX-EMPLOYEES THAT LEFT FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.
AND SO THEY WANTED TO STAY ON PART-TIME AND, AND WE, WE ENCOURAGED IT.
AND ONE OF 'EM IS ONE WE'RE TRYING TO STEAL FOR FREEPORT.
BUT, UM, AND HE'S A PARAMEDIC AND HE DOES GREAT.
WE'RE GOOD WITH THOSE THREE POSITIONS.
AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH GOOD PART-TIMERS AND I HAVE GREAT FULL-TIMERS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO
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FILL THOSE THREE POSITIONS ANYTIME SOON.AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SAVING THE CITY MONEY.
SO EVEN WITH THE PART-TIMERS PICKING UP.
AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT ABOUT REPLACING OUR EQUIPMENT.
SO WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING NEW, HIGH DOLLAR WISE.
UM, AND OUR BILLING COMPANY THIS YEAR AND OUR BILLING COMPANY, UM, HAS BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN KILLED KNOCKING IT OUT THE PARK.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT.
THE TREND LINE FOR REVENUE IS ACTUALLY, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS SINCE CORONAS THEY BRANCHED OUT, RIGHT? WELL, THEY THEY BROUGHT IN MORE PEOPLE.
UM, I THINK AND UM, ALSO MEDICAID AND MEDICARE ARE PAYING JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE.
BUT I, I'M GONNA TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAGIC THEY'VE BEEN DOING, BUT IT'S BEEN WORKING.
SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING GOOD STUFF.
NOW, EVENTUALLY WHEN THE CITY'S IN A GOOD POSITION, THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO UPGRADE, BUT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT COST.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, AND WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA LOOK AT IT.
BUT, AND FIRE, I THINK WANTS TO TALK ABOUT BILLING WITH CORONAS TWO.
SO WE'RE GONNA ALL SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THAT FOR SOME HAZMAT TYPE TYPE ISSUES.
CAR FIRES FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, THE NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE WAS DATED FROM 500 TO $800,000 A YEAR.
UM, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T COST THAT MUCH ANYMORE.
SO WE, AND WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN THAT.
WE TRY TO, TO NOT BE THE WHOLE PROBLEM
SO IN FACT, THE SMALLEST AMOUNT THAT I EVER REMEMBER SEEING MINE WAS ABOUT 300.
UM, I, WE, WE WE'RE PROUD OF WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT.
WE'VE WORKED REAL HARD TO GET HERE AND APPRECIATE THE GUYS THAT I HAVE ARE, MAN, I COULDN'T ASK FOR BETTER GUYS.
AND SO THEY, THEY, THEY MAKE IT EASY TO DO WHAT I DO.
SO Y'ALL DOING A HELL LOT BETTER JOB THAN NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.
WE, WE REALLY DO WORK HARD AT IT.
CAN THIS BUILDING JUST STOP LEAKING EVERYWHERE? IT'S, IT IS NOT AN EXTERNAL LEAK.
SO THAT'S, IT'S NOT, THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S ALL A, AND I'LL BE HONEST, MOST OF Y'ALL HOMES ARE PROBABLY DOING THE SAME THING.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF LIKE, HUMIDITY AND HEAT AND CONDENSATION GOING ON WITH THE ACS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS, WE'LL, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A LOT BETTER POSITION THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN A WHILE.
THE AC WASN'T THE AC MESSED UP.
DID WE EVER GET THAT? YEAH, WE GOT THE AC SO THE AC WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY INSTALLED POST CONSTRUCTION WAS TUCKED INTO THE SOFFITS AND WASN'T ALLOWED TO BREATHE APPROPRIATELY.
WASN'T INSULATED APPROPRIATELY.
SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS CAUSING THE HIGH LEVELS OF MOISTURE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
WE CORRECTED THAT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO NOW.
IT'S ABOUT AS CORRECT AS IT CAN BE WITHOUT RIPPING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM OUT AND GOING BACK BRAND NEW, WHICH I'M GONNA TELL YOU, THERE WERE DAYS WHERE I WAS LIKE, IT'S, IT'S GOTTA BE EASIER DOWN MY SANITY, BUT WE'VE GOT IT.
HEY, WE FREEZE THE DEATH IN HERE, WHICH IS NEW
EVERYBODY'S WALKING AROUND BLANKETS 'CAUSE IT GETS COLD IN HERE AND THAT DID NOT USED TO BE A THING.
SO WE'LL TAKE IT AND LOOK AT THE CEILING TILE SO YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH DAMAGE ON THEM.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I WAS WONDERING.
I DON'T SEE ANY, THERE'S, THERE'S TOO MANY WET ONES.
UH, AND WE, THE RIDGE VENT, WHEN THE RIDGE VENT GOT RIPPED OFF, WE, WE GOT, SOME OF THIS IS FROM THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T STRAIGHT LEAKING IN HERE, BUT THERE WAS SOME RUNNING AND, AND DRIPPING THAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THIS AT SOME POINT IS GONNA HAVE TO BE TORN OUT AND REPLACED.
UH, JUST BECAUSE, WELL WE NOTICED, UH, WHEN THE RIDGE VENT CAME OFF, I GUESS THE ACTUAL SUSPENSION SYSTEM FOR THE SUSPENDED CEILING GOT SEPARATED FROM THE WALL.
SO WHEN WE GET A DECENT SOUTH OR EASTERLY WIND, OH IT SOUNDS LIKE YES, IT DOES WIND HERE, HERE.
THEY, THEY TELL ME THAT WE'RE IN NO DANGER, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, AND THE BURIAL GROUND THAT WE DISRUPTED IS FINE, BUT
AND SO THOSE TWO THAT WE HIRED WILL BE, UM, GRADUATING FROM ALVIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN AUGUST.
ONE OF THEM IS IN THE RUNNING FOR, UM, A VALEDICTORIAN WITH THEIR PARAMEDICS.
SO WE TOOK THEM FROM BASIC AND, AND PUSHED THEM THROUGH.
AND NOW, UM, THEY'RE ABOUT TO BE DONE.
SO BY THE END OF THIS SUMMER WE'LL HAVE THREE BRANDING PARAMEDICS, TWO OF WHICH WE'VE GOT FROM
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LITTLE SEEDLING ALL THE WAY UP.SO, PRETTY EXCITING DONATION, HUH? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY GAVE ME TWO BASICS AND WE MADE PARAMEDICS.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON EMS? GOOD JOB.
BUS OUT THE PILLOWS, GENERAL GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES.
UH, ADMIN LOOKS TO BE LARGELY FLAT.
LOOK, DID REALLOCATE SOME SALARY INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES TO TRY AND OFFSET SOME THERE.
UM, IN TERMS OF ACTUAL EXPENDITURES, SO WE GET DOWN HERE, UH, WE'RE DOWN SLIGHTLY.
UH, WE DID INCLUDE THE $230,000, BUT THAT NUMBER'S GONNA CHANGE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS GONNA BE COMING FROM THE, UH, FROM THE EDC FOR THE RENOVATION AND REMEDIATION PROGRAM AT CITY HALL.
WE DID CONTACT THE AWARDED VENDOR YESTERDAY.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET NEXT WEEK.
UH, HOPING TO GET THEM STARTED BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT THE SCHEDULE.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COSTS THAT FALL INTO NEXT YEAR.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOT MUCH NEWS TO TELL ON 4 0 1, 4 0 2, UH, BASICALLY EVERYTHING'S STATIC DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURE, WE TRIMMED A LITTLE BIT ON THE DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS.
UH, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, BASICALLY STAYING THE SAME.
LEGAL, UH, RIGHT WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR, UH, WE'RE UNDER UNDER BUDGET SO FAR THIS YEAR.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PROSECUTOR, BUT WE THINK WE'LL BE WELL BELOW THE NUMBER THAT'S BUDGETED.
OH, THAT HE STARTING? HE HAS, HE HAS.
UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, IT, WHERE IS LANDON? WHERE IS LANDON? HERE COMES LAND IN THE BACK.
SO BEFORE LAST YEAR, IF YOU'LL RECALL, IT WAS BROKEN OUT BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS AND THERE WAS AN IT LINE ITEM.
WE'VE TRIED TO GET ALL OF THAT CONSOLIDATED UNDERNEATH.
UH, LANDON, UH, WHO I WILL LET YOU KIND OF DESCRIBE AND EXPLAIN WHAT, UH, WHAT IF ANY CHANGES THERE ARE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, UM, AS FAR AS DID PUT YOU ON THE SPOT LIKE THAT? YEAH.
UM, AS FAR AS THE BUDGETARY STUFF, BASICALLY MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE SOFTWARE HAS BEEN PUT UNDER MINE, WHICH WE HAD MISSED SEVERAL BEFORE, THE YEAR BEFORE
COREY AND I WERE HAVING BEEN GOING THROUGH IT AND LIKE, OH YEAH, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE HERE.
SO THAT, SO SOME THINGS LOOK LIKE THEY'VE ADDED TO MY BUDGET, BUT THEY EXISTED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUDGET UP UNTIL THIS POINT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, OH WE'VE DONE THIS.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A NEW THING.
UM, SO OTHER THAN THAT, LOOKING AT THE STUFF UP THERE, I KNOW THE MAYOR HAD ASKED ME ABOUT CAMERAS AT CITY HALL.
UM, THAT'S ONE THAT WE'VE GOT IN THERE.
RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE REALLY THREE CAMERAS COVERING THE BACK HALLWAYS WHERE THE EMPLOYEES ARE, IN CASE SOMEONE WERE SLIP AND FALL FOR LIABILITY.
UM, UH, WE HAD SOME OLDER CAMERAS UP IN THE FRONT AREA, BUT THEY ARE OLD AND HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BY THE COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF THEM FOR YEARS.
AND, UM, WHEN WE REPLACED THOSE, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PUT SOME ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING SO WE CAN COVER THE PARKING LOT, THE FRONT AREA, UM, THE BACK AREA WHERE MOST OF YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE COMING IN THROUGH SO THAT FOR SECURITY ISSUES, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO IT'S WHAT A LOT OF THE CAMERA STUFF ON THERE WAS SHOWING FOR CITY HALL.
UM, EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME, I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL ASK ON THE DOOR SECURITIES STUFF, UH, WHERE YOU'RE CURRENTLY UNDER A CONTRACT WITH JOHNSON CONTROL AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THAT CONTRACT AS HARD AS WE CAN.
UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO LET THE CLOCK RUN OUT ON IT WHILE IN THE SAME PROCESS WE ARE PUTTING IN OUR NEW SYSTEM EVERYWHERE THAT WE RUN AT CITY HALL, THIS BUILDING WILL HAVE IT IN THE SERVICE CENTER AND SO ON AND SO FORTH ON THOSE.
ON THE, UH, JOHNSON CONTROLS, WHEN DOES THAT ONE EXPIRE? DO YOU REMEMBER? 27TH.
SO, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ACTUALLY PROJECTING A DECREASE IN TOTAL EXPENDITURE FOR IT.
SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS IN LEADERSHIP YET, WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY OUT TO IS THE MOVE AWAY FROM ADOBE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY PUSHING TOWARDS ADOBE, UM, OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY DECIDED AT SOME POINT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY MONTHLY FEE FOR THEIR SOFTWARE.
UH, AND THEN THEY JACKED THE PRICE UP TO ABOUT,
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UH, I THINK OUR MONTHLY WENT FROM ABOUT $400 A MONTH TO ALMOST A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH.SO WE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED ADOBE, A READER OR ADOBE, UH, WRITER WHEN WE CAN GET A PLAY WITH SOMETHING CHEAPER.
SO, UM,
SO, UM, NOW I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING COMPLETELY AWAY FROM IT 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE 'CAUSE THERE'LL BE ON SUCH A SHARE OF THE MARKET, BUT, UH, WE'RE DEFINITELY CUTTING DOWN WHO HAS ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO EDIT IN ADOBE PDFS, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF DIRECTLY THROUGH THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ADD IS WE ONLY USE THAT FOR PDFS? NO, WE WERE USING IT FOR A LOT OF STUFF.
UM, I ARTWORK ADVERTISING, UH, SLIDESHOWS, PARKS WOULD USE IT, PARKS WOULD USE IT FOR A, A LOT OF STUFF.
SO WE'VE BEEN GRADUALLY WEANING FOLKS OFF OF THAT, TRYING TO GET THEM MOVED INTO SOMETHING THAT'S EITHER OPEN SOURCE OR, UH, AND WE'VE DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT PERPLEXITY AND WHAT IT IS FOR THAT WE CAN, YEAH.
UH, I'VE BEEN MOVING A LOT OF THEIR STUFF FOR DOCUMENTS AND IT, I KNOW IT'S GONNA TOUCH ON THE SUBJECT AGAIN, BUT AI UH, PERPLEXITY IS A COMPANY THAT HAS MULTIPLE LANGUAGE MODELS.
I DUNNO IF YOU'VE EVER USED ANYTHING LIKE CHET OR STUFF.
PERPLEXITY OFFERS FREE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTS.
UM, YOU SIGN UP WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT ID, THEY CONFIRM THAT YOU'RE GOVERNMENT, IT'S FREE AND IT'S NOT LOGGED OR USED BY ANYBODY ELSE.
AND SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT TRAINING THEIR STUFF ON YOUR DATA EVER.
SO, UH, WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING PEOPLE TOWARDS CHOOSING A
AND IF YOU SAW EARLIER IN THE BUDGET THINGS YOU SAW SEVERAL OF THE GRAPHS THAT, UH, CJ HAD MADE WERE ACTUALLY SAID, MADE BY PERPLEXITY.
HE ACTUALLY GENERATED THOSE DIRECTLY FROM THAT SOFTWARE.
SO WE USE IT, I, I USE IT A LOT FOR REGRESSIVE ANALYSIS, UH, LOOKING AT PD FUNCTION.
IT WAS ACTUALLY CHIEF AND I, I WENT THROUGH THE SLIDES WITH HIM YESTERDAY TAKING A LOOK AT, WELL DO, ARE WE OVER POLICE UNDER POLICED SERVED AT THE RIGHT LEVEL? WE'RE REALLY ACTUALLY UNDER, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER YEAR WHEN WE HAVE MORE MONEY TO THROW AT IT.
BUT, UH, IT'S THE SUPER EFFECTIVE TOOL AND IT WILL, IT'S GENERATIVE, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY TELL IT WHAT DOCUMENT, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE, AND IT'LL MODIFY YOUR PDFS FOR YOU.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO AUGMENT THINGS THAT WAY.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR IT? NO, THANK YOU SIR.
UM, A LITTLE BIT DOWNWARD TREND AGAIN, UH, IN OVERALL EXPENDITURES, BUT THAT'S REDUCTION IN SUPPLIES AND EXPENDABLES.
SO NON-DEPARTMENTAL, THE ONE THAT ALWAYS CONFUSES ME, UH, AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
UH, BUT BASICALLY THIS IS WHERE WE HANDLE THE TRANSFERS, INTER FUND TRANSFERS INTO AND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, UH, BETWEEN OTHER FUNDS AND ALSO TOWARDS DEBT.
UH, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT DEBT HERE IN JUST ONE SECOND.
UH, BUT THE, UH, PRIMARY FUNCTION HERE IS TO, TO MOVE THAT CASH AND THEN BE A PLACEHOLDER FOR CONTINGENCY.
WE CARRIED OVER THE SAME 250 FOR CONTINGENCY WE HAVE IN ALL OUR PRIOR YEARS.
SO, AND THEN ANCILLARY FUNDS, UH, THESE ARE JUST THE MINOR FUNDS.
AGAIN, THERE'S USUALLY NO ACTIVITY IN HERE, UH, OTHER THAN THE HIGHLIGHT THIS YEAR BEING THE 50,000 THAT WE DISCUSSED FOR THE POLICE DRONE AND FUND 1 0 4, UH, POLICE FORFEITURE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW WE DECIDE TO STRUCTURE THE, UH, HOW WE DECIDE TO STRUCTURE THE, UM, SOLID WASTE IS GONNA HAVE A DRASTIC IMPACT ON WHAT THIS BUDGET LOOKS LIKE.
AND, AND TO CLARIFY WHAT HAPPENS IS EACH FUND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING BACK AN APPORTIONED COST ANNUALLY FOR THE VEHICLES THEY PURCHASED IN THE PAST TO KIND OF HELP REPLENISH THE FUND.
THAT'S WHAT THE NEGATIVE NUMBER HERE IS.
AND THEN THE NUMBER BELOW THAT IS THE ANNUAL ASK AGENT OR ORGANIZATIONALLY THAT HITS THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE BEFORE I MOVE ON? NO.
UH, AGAIN, SAME THING FOR ENTERPRISE FUND.
UH, ANCILLARY FUNDING, UH, WE BASICALLY ARE COLLAPSING THE, UH, UNEMPLOYMENT FOR O2.
UH, AND THEN THE, UH, EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND BECAUSE OF THE BALANCE AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT LOW.
THAT'S WHY WE ASKED THEM TO FOREGO THE TWO
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VEHICLES IN 4 25 THIS YEAR.AND THEN THIS IS OUR DEBT SERVICE.
THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UH, OWE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN $7 MILLION IN TOTAL PRINCIPLE.
UH, AND THEN WHEN YOU COMBINE THE TWO TOGETHER RIGHT AT 8.9 IN TOTAL DEBT, WHICH IS, UH, FAIRLY LOW FOR A CITY OUR SIZE, UH, OF THAT, THE TAX BURDEN TO IF, OH, IT, IF THE NOTE WAS CALLED TOMORROW, UH, THE GENERAL FUND, THE TAXPAYERS, UH, THROUGH AVALOR TAX WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR $2.3 MILLION IN TOTAL AV BURDEN MATURITY DATES.
YEAH, SO IN QUESTION THE, I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE MATURITY.
SO, UH, RIGHT NOW, THE NEXT SERIES TO FALL OFF WOULD BE THE 2013 SERIES, UH, WHICH WAS A MIXED, UH, MIXED NOTE BETWEEN ENTERPRISE AND EDCI WANNA SAY, OR NO.
YEAH, IT WAS ENTERPRISE AND CDC, UH, IN THAT, THAT NOTE TOTAL, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO FUNDS COMES TO ABOUT $4 MILLION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE SERIES 2017, WHICH FALLS OFF IN 2029, A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT.
UH, AND THEN SERIES 2016, UH, FALLS OFF IN 2036.
AND THEN SERIES 2020, WHICH WAS OUR LAST LEAD, THE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION THAT WAS SPLIT BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE SDS FUND FOR SIDEWALKS, UH, FALLS OFF IN 2040.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE DEBT SERVICE LOOKS LIKE ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE ACTUAL TAX NOTE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS YEAR WOULD BE $284,000 85 2 THOU, 2 84 0 8 5, UH, TO SERVICE THE DEBT FROM TAX.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS SERVICED THROUGH ENTERPRISE OR SALES TAX.
SO IF WE NEEDED TO GO OUT FOR A BOND, LET'S SAY FOR ANYTHING, YEP.
ARE WE ABLE TO, UH, RIGHT NOW OUR, WE'RE AT A RIGHT AT A BILLION DOLLAR TOTAL VALUATION.
UH, WE'RE USING RIGHT AT 10% OF THAT.
WE COULD PROBABLY GET BETWEEN FOUR AND 6 MILLION COMFORTABLY.
WE COULD PROBABLY GO TO 10 OR 20.
UH, IF PUSH CAME TO SHOVE, UH, I WILL TELL YOU, UH, THERE ARE TWO CONCERNS HERE.
AND, UH, ROBERT HENDERSON, WHO'S BEEN OUR LONG-TERM FINANCIAL ANALYST AND ADVISOR, RETIRED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
HE HANDED OFF THE REINS TO DUSTY TRAILER, WHO'S ALSO WORKED ON OUR ACCOUNT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
UH, I KNOW DUSTY, UH, BOB'S COMMENT TO ME WAS, YOU NEED TO GET THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN THE BLACK FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS BEFORE YOU TRY AND ISSUE ANY DEBT ON THAT SIDE, GENERAL FUND WISE.
UH, HE SAID THAT YOU, WE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE TO ISSUE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
IF THERE, IF THERE'S REALLY A NEED.
UH, WHEN I TOLD HIM WHAT OUR NEEDS WERE,
AND I SAID, NO, WE GET IT, BUT WE DO WANNA SET UP A PLAN OF FINANCE WHERE WE'RE ROLLING DEBT, UH, PROBABLY STARTING IN 2029 IS WAS HIS SUGGESTION IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT AND THEN ROLL OUT A FOUR TO FOUR TO $7 MILLION NET BOND ISSUANCE EVERY THREE YEARS AFTER THAT TO START ADDRESSING THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
THE REASON HE WANTS TO WAIT TILL, OR THE REASON HE SUGGESTED WAITING WAS TO A LET MORE EQUITY DEVELOP IN THE, ON THE, IN THE BOND MARKET ON OUR SIDE.
UH, HIS CONCERN IS, IS THAT RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS SO UNCERTAIN IN THE MARKETS THAT WE'RE GONNA PAY A LOT OF VOLATILITY.
AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING INTERNATIONALLY WITH THE NUMBER OF UNI MUNICIPAL BONDS THAT ARE BEING ABANDONED BY FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AT THE MOMENT, HE FEELS LIKE WE'RE, WE'D BE AT A REALLY BAD LEVERAGE POINT ENTERING THE MARKET WITH SUCH A SMALL ISSUE.
SO, UH, MY SUGGESTION OR MY, MY ASK OR MY ADVICE IS, IS THAT WE WITHHOLD DEBT FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR OR TRYING TO ISSUE DEBT.
UM, AND THEN WHEN MAYBE WE LOOK AT IT GOING FORWARD FROM THERE ON THAT ROLLING CYCLE THAT HE TALKED ABOUT, ONCE THERE'S MORE CERTAINTY IN THE MARKET AND ONCE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE STABILITY, UH, I THINK THAT DECISIONS GET MADE SOMETIMES NATIONAL, FEDERAL, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THAT THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT IMPACTING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE SEEING SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKET THAT IT DOESN'T BEHOOVE US TO TRY AND JUMP IN.
THE OTHER ISSUE, UH, THAT HE POINTED OUT, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THE LAST TIME WE ISSUED DEBT IN 2020, WAS JUST THE ACTUAL COST OF LIVING BURDEN EXPERIENCED BY OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, OUR MEETING INCOME HAS COME DOWN INSTEAD OF GONE UP AND THE ACTUAL DEBT LOAD AND MUNICIPAL FEES ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE MEANS THEY SEE A GREATER DEFAULT RISK.
HE BASICALLY TOLD US THAT IF WE WENT OUT RIGHT NOW, WE'D BE LISTED AT AA MINUS MOST LIKELY, WHEREAS
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WE WERE A AA PLUS.AND IF YOU RECALL LAST TIME, THAT BOUGHT US A $350,000 COUPON ON THAT DEBT ISSUE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO BUY DOWN THE ACTUAL INITIAL PRICE OF THE THING BECAUSE OUR STANDING WAS SO GOOD AT AA NEGATIVE, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T GET THAT SAME Q COUPON RATING.
THAT'S PROBABLY MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU WANTED, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UH, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
YEAH, ACTUALLY YES, WE COULD, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T,
I THINK THE, THE LONGER WE HOLD OUR POWER AND POWDER AND THE LONG, THE MORE WE'RE ABLE TO ALLOW THE FUNDS TO PERFORM IN A HEALTHIER FISCAL STANCE, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE.
UH, THAT'S WHY I'M PREACHING BY REDUCING THE, THE NET DRAW DOWN ON RESERVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
THE, THE, I MEAN THE SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE CHIEF AND THEM LIVE, UH, WE, WE'VE GOT A PATCH UP THERE, BUT THAT BUILDING, THEY'VE OUTGROWN IT.
THEY'RE PACKED IN THERE LIKE SARDINES.
IT'S, YEAH, IT NEEDS TO IT'S TIME.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH JOHN'S CREW AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PACKED IN LIKE SARDINES DOWN THERE AND IT'S NOT QUITE FRANKLY, OPTIMAL TO HAVE THEIR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY NEXT TO THE LIBRARY IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WAS MY LAST SLIDE, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
WELL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WENT THROUGH THE SAME AND LOOKED AT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST IS THAT THE INSURANCE COST FOR THE CITY OF IS OVER 2 MILLION ON THIS.
WHAT COULD WE DO WITH 2 MILLION? YEP.
I ALREADY TOLD YOU WHAT THE ANSWER IS, JIM.
IT'S, AND IS THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO BRING IT DOWN ON THE PROPERTY SIDE? WE COULD SELF-INSURE AND UR THAT RISK OURSELVES.
UM, I THINK BACK IN THE DAY WE DID THAT A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE WERE HAD MORE MONEY IN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
AND, AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF IT'S PROPERTY? UH, THE PROPERTY, WHAT IS OUR TOTAL ON PROPERTY THIS YEAR? DO YOU KNOW? BUT THAT THEY HAVEN'T COME IN YET.
OH, I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S NOT A'S ONLY ABOUT A HALF A MILLION.
HEALTH INSURANCE IS EATING US UP AND IT'S GONNA KEEP EATING US UP.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DRASTIC REDUCTION IN LOSS RATIO THAT WE'VE HAD THIS PAST YEAR, THANKS TO NEXT LEVEL, I WAS KIND OF LIKE CREST FALLING WHEN ANGEL ROLLED IN AND WAS LIKE, IT'S GONNA BE 20 TO 25% NO MATTER WHAT.
AND I WAS JUST LIKE, IT CAN'T, WE, WE DID THIS WORK, OUR PEOPLE AREN'T UTILIZING AND THE RATIO'S NOT THE SAME AND IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO MATTER.
AND THEN IN TALKING TO OTHER CITIES, I MEAN, THEY'RE SEEING 30, 35% INCREASES AND, UM, IT'S JUST NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH HEALTHCARE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG TERM AT THIS RATE.
UH, WE CAN'T, I SHOULDN'T SAY THE WORD.
OH, I'LL SAY WHEN YOU STOP, YOU STOP WITH THESE THINGS.
BUT YOUR CAR INSURANCE, YOUR HOUSE INSURANCE, YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE, YOUR HURRICANE INSURANCE, YOU ADD IT ALL UP, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS A
IT'S NOT THAT FAR OUTTA LINE WITH WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE PROPORTION WHAT TOO.
AND I WILL PAY FROM AN EMPLOYEE ASPECT, OUR INSURANCE IS HEAVY.
UM, I HAVE FAMILY ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY THAT WORK FOR MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES.
OUR INSURANCE, YOU JUST CANNOT FEED IT.
WE HAVE AMAZING INSURANCE FROM AN EMPLOYEE ASPECT, IT'S JUST, IT'S A GREAT THING.
I KNOW IT'S COSTING US AN ARMY LEG AND I HATE THAT, BUT WE LOVE IT.
I SAID FOR NOW, DON'T CHANGE IT.
WELL, I WILL TELL YOU WE ARE, UH, WE, WE HAVE ASKED, UH, OUR ALLIANT WHO DOES THAT FOR US.
WE TOLD THEM TO BID LITERALLY ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY IN THE MARKET JUST TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET IT DOWN.
SO, SO ME, THAT IS WHAT IT'S I GUESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, SIR?
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THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL HARD WORK Y'ALL PUT INTO NEXT ITEM.BE A NOTICE OF A ANNOUNCEMENT FOR UPCOMING EVENTS.
THE GREAT TEXAS MOSQUITO FESTIVAL WILL BE HAPPENING JULY THE 23RD THROUGH THE 25TH AT THE PARK.
WE WILL HAVE A COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING, BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING ON THURSDAY, JULY THE 30TH AT COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING.
FINAL BUDGET WORKSHOP RECORD BOTH OF THE PRELIMINARY TAX RATE.
AUGUST 13TH, SIX 30 AT THE EVENT CENTER AND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING THURSDAY, AUGUST THE 13TH, AND THEN REGULAR COUNCILS MEETING AUGUST THE 27TH.
LABOR DAY IS MONDAY THE SEVENTH, EIGHT MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH.
THE CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON SEPTEMBER THE 10TH.
WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON BUDGET TAX ROLL, ROLL CALL BOOKS TO ADOPT BUDGET ORDINANCE AND THE TAX RATE ORDINANCE, AND THEN THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, THE FOLLOW AND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 24TH.
AND I PRESUME THOSE COULD BE PROBABLY ALL AT THE EVENT SERVED.
THEY COULD BE WELL FI WELL NO MORE ONCE TO SERVICE MASTER.
WE'LL FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT NEXT WEEK.
THEN THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE ADJOURN.